My wife just got a DROID 3 yesterday. I promptly used Pete's Motorola Root Tools to root the device, then used Titanium Backup to freeze a bunch of the bloatware that came on it. Today, she installed an OTA update and lost root. For the life of me I cannot figure out how to get root back. I tried re-running Pete's Motorola Root Tools, but adb shows the device as offline, so it isn't working. Anyone know how to get root back? Thanks!
Edit: I forgot to mention that after I rooted the phone, I installed the DROID 3 bootstrapper and recovery. I took a full backup before I used TB to freeze the bloat. Don't know if recovering this backup is the way to go...
You wont get root for this version till it's been found, the root process has been fixed by Moto.
Just RSD back to 5.6.890:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339816
Then follow the below link, install rootkeeper to keep root from previous version then update with Hashcodes OTA file pull:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1334704
-smc
Thanks for the info. The phone shows that its currently at 5.6.890. Is this because the OTA update wasn't completely successful?
riot1031 said:
Thanks for the info. The phone shows that its currently at 5.6.890. Is this because the OTA update wasn't completely successful?
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I think you probably updated to 5.6.890 not the leaked OTA. Maybe check to see USB debugging is still on and run the 1 click again. FYI the leaked update 5.7 is not rootable at this point but 5.6 is.
Thanks alot guys!! I was able to get her phone re-rooted and everything looks good.
Since getting a D3 I've picked up a few more techniques and strategies for easily keeping my root and customizing my device. I've found that Root Keeper will ensure you keep your root even after installing a custom ROM
MerkXR4 said:
Since getting a D3 I've picked up a few more techniques and strategies for easily keeping my root and customizing my device. I've found that Root Keeper will ensure you keep your root even after installing a custom ROM
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Although most custom ROMs have root/superuser built into them...
Enjoyed the XDA Noob Video, but still have a noob question. Searched and couldn't find anything directly addressing this. Would have posted in the appropriate thread: R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R root for the BIONIC v2.1, but "New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums."
I am completely stock .886. This is my first android phone. After a lot of research, I decided that I want to root in order to freeze some of the Verizon pre-installed bloat with Titanium back-up and to be able to use other root required apps like PS3 Sixaxis Controller app. I don't plan on installing any custom ROMs, as I'm happy with stock moto one for now.
If I root using "option #2" of the R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R root, will I be able to retain the official OTA update path as long as I don't install/update anything via cheesecake or any custom ROMs?
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Enjoyed the XDA Noob Video, but still have a noob question. Searched and couldn't find anything directly addressing this. Would have posted in the appropriate thread: R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R root for the BIONIC v2.1, but "New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums."
I am completely stock .886. This is my first android phone. After a lot of research, I decided that I want to root in order to freeze some of the Verizon pre-installed bloat with Titanium back-up and to be able to use other root required apps like PS3 Sixaxis Controller app. I don't plan on installing any custom ROMs, as I'm happy with stock moto one for now.
If I root using "option #2" of the R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R root, will I be able to retain the official OTA update path as long as I don't install/update anything via cheesecake or any custom ROMs?
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You can install custom roms and they wont update your kernel or radio. So if your. 886 and install a .893 based rom you will still have the. 886 kernel and radio. To change that you have to go completely stock and use one of Motorola's updates. Like through cheesecake.
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also if you freeze any apps you will have to unfreeze the in order to get the update. just keep an eye out on xda for when the update has been sent. then just unfreeze apps and install update.
Thanks for the info! I went ahead and rooted. Backing up with bionic bootstrap now and then freezing some bloat. Glad I rooted, there are some pretty cool root apps for android.
ok very new to rooting just rooted 2 days ago on 893 now installed update to 902 lost root...but here is my concern my phone grants super user but cant gain root access and i didnt unfreeze bloat and the update was still successfull now i cant even access titatium to unfreeze cause root cant be established so i dont understand how i can partially be rooted and just to mention as far as i can tell there are no known problems with the phone anywhere else but what should i do to get root back or is it just a simple configuration problem thanks
There's an exploit available that will root the .902 update -- Motofail. It says Droid 4 but it works with the Bionic, RAZR and Droid 3 as well.
what are the risks im pretty new and dont wanna do something i dont fully understand or that i might regret later..and how did the update complete without unfreezing bloat and where is it now.lol i guess im asking does it matter i just wanna get it right
It's pretty straightforward, basically a one-click root method.
As far as the update, it depends on which specific apps you had frozen. Apparently the ones you froze were not on the list of apps the update checks for.
i can pm you instructions on step by step instructions to root from stock to 902 root if you like someone helped me today about to do it myself here in about 5 minutes
ok thanks for the input i did motofail and it worked back in root now does anyone know of an app to overclock without changing rom
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There's an exploit available that will root the .902 update -- Motofail. It says Droid 4 but it works with the Bionic, RAZR and Droid 3 as well.
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I just received 902 today and lost my root. I ran this and it's all good again. I have the Bionic. Thanks for the post!
OK I know pwnmymoto is the current updated root method for the moto x but it is not simply unrooted. RSDlite and flashing is required (sadly I am a noob to this). Mainly doing this to get tethering (unlimited data Verizon plan). Was thinking that I would just install the motoroot app for root instead cause then I can revert back to stock when an ota for the camera comes out with a simple factory reset as the recovery is not modified like in the pwnmymoto app. Is this a correct assumption and a smart way to go about this? Thanks for any info or advice. @jcase
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OK I know pwnmymoto is the current updated root method for the moto x but it is not simply unrooted. RSDlite and flashing is required (sadly I am a noob to this). Mainly doing this to get tethering (unlimited data Verizon plan). Was thinking that I would just install the motoroot app for root instead cause then I can revert back to stock when an ota for the camera comes out with a simple factory reset as the recovery is not modified like in the pwnmymoto app. Is this a correct assumption and a smart way to go about this? Thanks for any info or advice. @jcase
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If you used motoroot, you can just press the unroot button then uninstall the app
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If you used motoroot, you can just press the unroot button then uninstall the app
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@jcase then I assume uninstalling supersu next. Figured I would not need a r/w root as your pwnmymoto if all I will be doing is rocking a tether app. Kind of looking forward to the ota for this dang camera on Verizon.
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@jcase then I assume uninstalling supersu next. Figured I would not need a r/w root as your pwnmymoto if all I will be doing is rocking a tether app. Kind of looking forward to the ota for this dang camera on Verizon.
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If you stay rooted and wait for the bootstrap, you should be able to flash the updates and keep root. No ETA on the bootstrap though. Jcase has mentioned he doesn't plan on exploiting the update but you never know.
rmead01 said:
If you stay rooted and wait for the bootstrap, you should be able to flash the updates and keep root. No ETA on the bootstrap though. Jcase has mentioned he doesn't plan on exploiting the update but you never know.
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OK I got ya. So just to clarify for my knowledge. I am safe to install OTA updates because I never messed with the recovery is that correct? And hence why you can't with pwnmymoto as it replaces the recovery. Just new to rooting and am figuring it out as I go a long. I apologize for the stupid questions haha. Soon I will become versed in this but just behind the times (haven't done any modifications like this since the old Xbox modding days).
So gotta thank @jcase for the answers and his old exploit LINK
After installing his motoroot app and then superSU. All I did was install wifi tether and followed the directions posted by @addictedhacks LINK
Happy with this route as it was super simple, did not need a PC, and got me my wifi tether for my verizon phone. The big plus and the reason I went this way was for the ability to unroot without a PC (and I believe no fear of an OTA causing issues if updated), and I really did not need the R/W ability of jcase's pwnmymoto being new to all this rooting. Gotta start somewhere. I figured I would share in case other new people out there are afraid to go forward and maybe this route is a viable option for you. Thanks.
All,
Has anyone on Verizon done the OTA update and kept root? From what I've been reading, sounds like if you rooted with MotoRoot then you're okay, but not if you used PwnMyMoto.
As far as people getting a bootloop, that does make some sense because the recovery partition is really just the boot image... So I can flash the stock recovery to the recovery partition before running the update, and that should theoretically prevent a bootloop. However, if this is going to erase my root, then I don't want to do the update.
So, has anyone on verizon done the OTA and kept their root? How did you do it?
First item, this is a question so it should belong in the question and answer threads! Secondly look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
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Sorry, and thanks! I'll probably give this a shot, make that camera work a little better...
You can always install the SafeStrap ROM here. That's what I did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484908
[Rom] [VZW] SafeStrap 139.12.57
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The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
dymmeh said:
The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
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This method makes it so SafeStrap is no longer available though, right? If that's not the case then... Don't know what I've been waiting for!
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mercado79 said:
This method makes it so SafeStrap is no longer available though, right? If that's not the case then... Don't know what I've been waiting for!
Sent from my Moto X
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I searched around and can't really find an answer to that. I don't use SafeStrap so I have no idea. I'd assume you can try the method I posted and try using SafeStrap after. If that doesn't work then just RSD back to pre-update and hang on to SafeStrap until it's figured out. No guarantees if it'd work / break stuff, though. You'd be the guinea pig for that one.
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I searched around and can't really find an answer to that. I don't use SafeStrap so I have no idea. I'd assume you can try the method I posted and try using SafeStrap after. If that doesn't work then just RSD back to pre-update and hang on to SafeStrap until it's figured out. No guarantees if it'd work / break stuff, though. You'd be the guinea pig for that one.
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@jcase Any chance you can answer this for us? Just cause someone was able to keep root (the one shot kind you mentioned), does that mean that using RSD is still on the table?
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mercado79 said:
@jcase Any chance you can answer this for us? Just cause someone was able to keep root (the one shot kind you mentioned), does that mean that using RSD is still on the table?
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If you take the OTA you dont have wY to revert to old stock Motorola block the reverts already and @jcase already said that he will be back for root in this device till 4.3 is out
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juancaperez2000 said:
If you take the OTA you dont have wY to revert to old stock Motorola block the reverts already and @jcase already said that he will be back for root in this device till 4.3 is out
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That's what I thought too. Thanks.
MikeyNick said:
All,
Has anyone on Verizon done the OTA update and kept root? From what I've been reading, sounds like if you rooted with MotoRoot then you're okay, but not if you used PwnMyMoto.
As far as people getting a bootloop, that does make some sense because the recovery partition is really just the boot image... So I can flash the stock recovery to the recovery partition before running the update, and that should theoretically prevent a bootloop. However, if this is going to erase my root, then I don't want to do the update.
So, has anyone on verizon done the OTA and kept their root? How did you do it?
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For sure have I just updated my Moto X the other day on VZW and kept root. Here is a link to the process on how to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
will2live said:
For sure have I just updated my Moto X the other day on VZW and kept root. Here is a link to the process on how to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
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I think that's not up for debate. The issue is that even though you kept root, you're now blocked from using safestrap or ever gaining root again in the future (once another ota comes through). The update has now patched root going forward and it sounds like you won't be able to keep it after this update.
MikeyNick said:
All,
Has anyone on Verizon done the OTA update and kept root? From what I've been reading, sounds like if you rooted with MotoRoot then you're okay, but not if you used PwnMyMoto.
As far as people getting a bootloop, that does make some sense because the recovery partition is really just the boot image... So I can flash the stock recovery to the recovery partition before running the update, and that should theoretically prevent a bootloop. However, if this is going to erase my root, then I don't want to do the update.
So, has anyone on verizon done the OTA and kept their root? How did you do it?
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I think that's not up for debate. The issue is that even though you kept root, you're now blocked from using safestrap or ever gaining root again in the future (once another ota comes through). The update has now patched root going forward and it sounds like you won't be able to keep it after this update.
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Safestrap i know about and dont care about as i dont use it. As for moving forward with root I'll be surprised if that is the case but I wont disagree either. It is very possible they patch something to actually block root down the road. From my understanding tho currently the patch is blocking ppl to root the update not keeping root if the process is followed correctly. My guess is odds are it will be the same on the next OTA just like we had to do on the original Razr line to keep root until the bootloader was unlocked. However if the next OTA is 4.3 tha tcould all change for sure as anything is possible. Even so when that time comes I'll just unlock mine. I do have a Dev edition i just haven't unlocked with it being brand new and not wanting to void warranty yet to make sure hardware is cool but i do want root so i went the long route for now is all.
dymmeh said:
The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
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So I installed PwnMyMoto, SuperSU and OTA Root Keeper, then decided not to root. I installed the Verizon update and boom, I'm rooted. Is that what you're saying is needed? I was surprised that root apps all work fine for me, I really didn't do anything but install those apks before I installed the camera update!
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So I installed PwnMyMoto, SuperSU and OTA Root Keeper, then decided not to root. I installed the Verizon update and boom, I'm rooted. Is that what you're saying is needed? I was surprised that root apps all work fine for me, I really didn't do anything but install those apks before I installed the camera update!
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As long as you had PwnMyMoto and never ran it / not rooted you were good to go. SuperSU could be installed before or after. I dont think OTA Root Keeper was needed at all. PwnMyMoto runs after a reboot so once you installed the OTA and rebooted it did its rooting magic automatically for you. Glad it all worked out for you
dymmeh said:
The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
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As long as you had PwnMyMoto and never ran it / not rooted you were good to go. SuperSU could be installed before or after. I dont think OTA Root Keeper was needed at all. PwnMyMoto runs after a reboot so once you installed the OTA and rebooted it did its rooting magic automatically for you. Glad it all worked out for you
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That's awesome, didn't realize that would happen automatically. I completely expected that I'd have to complete the entire root process steps that were outlined in an earlier post if I wanted root. Thanks for the reply.
will2live said:
Safestrap i know about and dont care about as i dont use it. As for moving forward with root I'll be surprised if that is the case but I wont disagree either. It is very possible they patch something to actually block root down the road. From my understanding tho currently the patch is blocking ppl to root the update not keeping root if the process is followed correctly. My guess is odds are it will be the same on the next OTA just like we had to do on the original Razr line to keep root until the bootloader was unlocked. However if the next OTA is 4.3 tha tcould all change for sure as anything is possible. Even so when that time comes I'll just unlock mine. I do have a Dev edition i just haven't unlocked with it being brand new and not wanting to void warranty yet to make sure hardware is cool but i do want root so i went the long route for now is all.
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people who have moto employee friends say they are moving to 4.3 next. Also, there may be a work around for you to keep root with the next release, but because people who aren't on dev phones that must be sure they can retain root would not have used this method (as it is a one chance type of method). so it is more likely that any new workarounds that people come up with will be for those that still have the ability to downgrade to original stock firmware. Also, SS is nice because it gives you the ability to run the phone just like you normally would but you can create complete backups of the device so you don't have to set everything up all over again if you screw something up with your phone. Even if you don't use SS for flashing roms it is still useful for back ups.
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people who have moto employee friends say they are moving to 4.3 next. Also, there may be a work around for you to keep root with the next release, but because people who aren't on dev phones that must be sure they can retain root would not have used this method (as it is a one chance type of method). so it is more likely that any new workarounds that people come up with will be for those that still have the ability to downgrade to original stock firmware. Also, SS is nice because it gives you the ability to run the phone just like you normally would but you can create complete backups of the device so you don't have to set everything up all over again if you screw something up with your phone. Even if you don't use SS for flashing roms it is still useful for back ups.
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I have my Moto contacts and yes they are moving to 4.3 next last i was told when I asked. As for downgrading stock software that isn't going to happen once updated as you can't go backwards. Moto devices have been that way going back to the original Droid Razr. Its few and far between where you could actually go backwards after an OTA. So unless you mean stock of the current build installed then ppl will have issues for sure. That said if ppl OTA and have root now but for whatever reason need to use the new fastboot file that was just posted they will in fact be SOL for gaining root. This is exactly why I refuse to buy consumer units from the carrier besides a few other reason I wont go into. My theory is simple we want to mess with device buy an unlockable one or be ready to suffer/wait for an exploit after an OTA hits.
As far as root moving forward what process you talking about tho? There is 2 ways to do it. The one posted right above your post in this thread, or the link I posted above. If the info in this thread was used yes there may be an issue because of the patch. However I will be very surprised to see ppl not be able to keep root if they updated using the process in the link I posted above. Besides having to fastboot the boot.img to recovery in that process its the same way original Droid Razr owners had to update to be able to keep root if there was no root process for the OTA being pushed. Moving forward my guess is there will be an issue once 4.3 hits tho. I'm not sure you will be able to use the old kernel from 4.2.2 to overwrite recovery and boot the 4.3 /system so you can restore root and pull the actual 4.3 boot.img so that can be used for the recovery highjack. Bottom line is only time will tell at this point as you never know what Moto/Google will do with the next update.
Agreed on SS for backups even if not flashing ROMs, but personally i just dont mess with my device enough to worry about a full back i guess. For apps/settings I just use MyBackup PRO. I've also have an app a buddy made that creates a full XML if i wanted to use it. In the old days I use to make alot of backups for ROM flashing when I used SS. Guess in my old age I've just got lazy and dont worry about it that much anymore. I really hose the device I'll just swap to one of my others til i get back to fixing the messed up one.
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I have my Moto contacts and yes they are moving to 4.3 next last i was told when I asked. As for downgrading stock software that isn't going to happen once updated as you can't go backwards. Moto devices have been that way going back to the original Droid Razr. Its few and far between where you could actually go backwards after an OTA. So unless you mean stock of the current build installed then ppl will have issues for sure. That said if ppl OTA and have root now but for whatever reason need to use the new fastboot file that was just posted they will in fact be SOL for gaining root. This is exactly why I refuse to buy consumer units from the carrier besides a few other reason I wont go into. My theory is simple we want to mess with device buy an unlockable one or be ready to suffer/wait for an exploit after an OTA hits.
As far as root moving forward what process you talking about tho? There is 2 ways to do it. The one posted right above your post in this thread, or the link I posted above. If the info in this thread was used yes there may be an issue because of the patch. However I will be very surprised to see ppl not be able to keep root if they updated using the process in the link I posted above. Besides having to fastboot the boot.img to recovery in that process its the same way original Droid Razr owners had to update to be able to keep root if there was no root process for the OTA being pushed. Moving forward my guess is there will be an issue once 4.3 hits tho. I'm not sure you will be able to use the old kernel from 4.2.2 to overwrite recovery and boot the 4.3 /system so you can restore root and pull the actual 4.3 boot.img so that can be used for the recovery highjack. Bottom line is only time will tell at this point as you never know what Moto/Google will do with the next update.
Agreed on SS for backups even if not flashing ROMs, but personally i just dont mess with my device enough to worry about a full back i guess. For apps/settings I just use MyBackup PRO. I've also have an app a buddy made that creates a full XML if i wanted to use it. In the old days I use to make alot of backups for ROM flashing when I used SS. Guess in my old age I've just got lazy and dont worry about it that much anymore. I really hose the device I'll just swap to one of my others til i get back to fixing the messed up one.
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3 ways to maintain root are the one in the thread, SS, and the one you posted. The one you posted actually allows you to flash the original stock firmware on the phone because the BL was never touched thus the security (keeping you from downgrading) was never installed. That was what I was referring to when I said those that must make sure they will retain root in the future would not have done the install pwnmymmoto without running then take ota then run pwnmymoto. As you said those people will be screwed if the next root requires you to flash back to original stock or use part of the pwnmymoto exploit that will only be accessible to those that got the OTA with SS or the link you posted. I don't toy with my phone as much as I used to especially this one, but bypasing exchange security is pretty essential for me. I don't want an encrypted device with mandatory pin. I never lose my phone and I would know within minutes of losing it if i ever did so I could shut it down remotely.
And I'm not sure about the new kernel situation either. This is why I wanted to make sure I could go back to original firmware as I see that being our best bet to retain root through 4.3, assuming jcase doesn't release another exploit for it to get some cash.
jayboyyyy said:
3 ways to maintain root are the one in the thread, SS, and the one you posted. The one you posted actually allows you to flash the original stock firmware on the phone because the BL was never touched thus the security (keeping you from downgrading) was never installed. That was what I was referring to when I said those that must make sure they will retain root in the future would not have done the install pwnmymmoto without running then take ota then run pwnmymoto. As you said those people will be screwed if the next root requires you to flash back to original stock or use part of the pwnmymoto exploit that will only be accessible to those that got the OTA with SS or the link you posted. I don't toy with my phone as much as I used to especially this one, but bypasing exchange security is pretty essential for me. I don't want an encrypted device with mandatory pin. I never lose my phone and I would know within minutes of losing it if i ever did so I could shut it down remotely.
And I'm not sure about the new kernel situation either. This is why I wanted to make sure I could go back to original firmware as I see that being our best bet to retain root through 4.3, assuming jcase doesn't release another exploit for it to get some cash.
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Gotchya, makes total sense now what you are saying. I think there is just confusion at times when talking about root & OTA because of different ways to do it in a case like this device. Being a Moto guy for so long tho i'm use to all the BS they throw at us.....lol. That said that is why i posted the link I did. Imho it's a bad plan to update using the other method of installing pwnmymoto and not running it first before taking the OTA. Doing the process to protect root before updating is a much safer bet atm imo. Sure its a little more work but at the end of the day you dont have to be worried as much moving forward. Only concern I have still for doing it the longer way is if that process will work when they push out 4.3. It had alot of changes in it so lord only knows what will be up for keeping root. And really in my case its no concern but for all the folks with consumer version it is still a concern i think for the time being