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[Q] nandriud backup: data or all

when i go into recovery mode, and select backup / restore, should i be selecting backup "data" or backup "all"? what is the difference?

I believe backup data will just backup your user apps and basic data on sd. Backup all baghdad up system apps and data as well. Significance is that you would not want to restore all if you were not running the same rom

mcord11758 said:
I believe backup data will just backup your user apps and basic data on sd. Backup all baghdad up system apps and data as well. Significance is that you would not want to restore all if you were not running the same rom
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So if i would like to restore my phone to the state it is in now, would i be doing a backup "Data" or backup "all"?
when i go into recovery -->backup/restore --> backup, it says backup and restore data is recommended, and that backup and restore all was "use at own risk" or something along that line.

If you are looking to restore your current state on rom "x" down the line, our if you are playing with themes and something goes wrong you would restore all. To be honest I am not sure why you would ever restore just data, that is why I use titanium backup.
You would not want to restore a backup from rom x onto rom y
I only do nandroid backups if I am planning on playing with themes

mcord11758 said:
If you are looking to restore your current state on rom "x" down the line, our if you are playing with themes and something goes wrong you would restore all. To be honest I am not sure why you would ever restore just data, that is why I use titanium backup.
You would not want to restore a backup from rom x onto rom y
I only do nandroid backups if I am planning on playing with themes
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hmm. so I shouldnt be using nandroid backup/restore to get back to where i originally was if i was testing out a different rom?

I think you have me backwards
If you are running phoenix rom, but wanted to try paragon, you could do a nandroid backup of phoenix so that your set up on that rom is saved. Try paragon, but maybe it uss not for you, so you go back to phoenix. now you can restore your nandroid after you reflashed phoenix to get your settings and apps back. You can not restore the phoenix backup while on paragon. Well actually you could but it will likely cause issues
Now if you wanted to play with themes and you try one out and tower phone won't boot. You can go back to recovery and restore to get rid of the theme

mcord11758 said:
I think you have me backwards
If you are running phoenix rom, but wanted to try paragon, you could do a nandroid backup of phoenix so that your set up on that rom is saved. Try paragon, but maybe it uss not for you, so you go back to phoenix. now you can restore your nandroid after you reflashed phoenix to get your settings and apps back. You can not restore the phoenix backup while on paragon. Well actually you could but it will likely cause issues
Now if you wanted to play with themes and you try one out and tower phone won't boot. You can go back to recovery and restore to get rid of the theme
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So that means i should always "reflash" back to phoenix rom before restoring my backup onto phoenix?
in this case, would i be using the "restore/backup data" or the "restore/backup all" from the recovery menu? like i said earlier, there is a recommendation in the menu to use backup/restore data and a warning with backup/restore all.

dsu said:
So that means i should always "reflash" back to phoenix rom before restoring my backup onto phoenix?
in this case, would i be using the "restore/backup data" or the "restore/backup all" from the recovery menu? like i said earlier, there is a recommendation in the menu to use backup/restore data and a warning with backup/restore all.
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Yes you would reflash phoenix
Backup all, I believe the warning is to prevent you from restoring all from one rom to another.
Ok, I have a backup from stock 2.1. I am running paragon which is 2.2.1. If I try to restore my stock backup I will likely get stock in a boot loop and will have to use odin to recover. I believe, note believe, that if I restored just data I would be ok because I would not be restoring any system information. I use titanium to back up my apps, so I do not see a use for the option

mcord11758 said:
Yes you would reflash phoenix
Backup all, I believe the warning is to prevent you from restoring all from one rom to another.
Ok, I have a backup from stock 2.1. I am running paragon which is 2.2.1. If I try to restore my stock backup I will likely get stock in a boot loop and will have to use odin to recover. I believe, note believe, that if I restored just data I would be ok because I would not be restoring any system information. I use titanium to back up my apps, so I do not see a use for the option
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I see, still a bit confused because because i have a stock backup 2.2 from "rom manager". When switching between roms before, i would restore my phone back to the rom manager stock backup through recovery menu restore option before flashing it to another rom. That seemed to work fine.
Is there a reason for this? or is the rom manager backup different from a nandroid "backup all"?

dsu said:
Is there a reason for this? or is the rom manager backup different from a nandroid "backup all"?
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No they are the same, may be better if you tell me what toy want to do, I don't know how to explain this in different terms. Restoring your rom manager backup does not qualify as flashing stock if that is what you are doing

Please someone tell me how to backup using nandroid. I've tried many times using ROM Manager but still stuck on recovery 3(e). My captivate run on froyo JI6. Thanks.

max_82 said:
Please someone tell me how to backup using nandroid. I've tried many times using ROM Manager but still stuck on recovery 3(e). My captivate run on froyo JI6. Thanks.
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Get into recovery using power menu. Then you can use backup/restore to backup the rom.

[Q]Phone won't reboot

Hey guys,
I used odin to get boot it back up and then I used ClockworkMod to restore backed up data....
After phone said 'restore complete,' I let the phone reboot, but the phone will not reboot
at&t screen pops up and then black out then pops up again then into android recovery mode.
Any ideas?

Could you please provide a little more information about how you got to where you are? (e.g. what rom/kernel/modem/theme you were flashing, what ODIN you used, what version of CWM, etc.) Anything you provide will be helpful in troubleshooting.

Well I had cognitive 4.5.3 installed and I tried restoring using clockmod recovery
the restore wasn't successful and the phone would stay black screened after Galaxy S logo screen
So I turned on odin3 and put my phone on download mode then hit start on odin3
that successfully restored the phone to froyo 2.2 without any of my data
so I tried using clockmod recovery once again to restore the backup
and then... that's where I am
The phone won't boot. It will just go into recovery mode

Here's the message I got after trying to restore once again
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ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.1.2
Checking MD5 sums...
Restoring system...
Restoring data...
Restoring datadata...
.android_secure.img not found. Skipping restore of /sdcard/.android_secure.
Restoring cache...
sd-ext.img not found. Skipping restore of /sd-ext/.
Restore complete!
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When did you make that nandroid backup? If you made it while on stock, you'll have to go back to stock first, then run the restore command. If on cognition, you'll need to be on the version you were on when you made the backup and restore there.

Here's the link I found on how to return to stock rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
I've done the first part - before the master reset and then tried restoring the backup and that is how I got to where I am right now.
Do I need to factory reset as well?
If I do factory reset, won't that erase the backup file?
Thanks. I really appreciate your help

jc830 said:
Here's the link I found on how to return to stock rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
I've done the first part - before the master reset and then tried restoring the backup and that is how I got to where I am right now.
Do I need to factory reset as well?
If I do factory reset, won't that erase the backup file?
Thanks. I really appreciate your help
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To answer your question, doing the master clear will erase EVERYTHING stored in the phone's internal memory. Don't do that step now, as you should be able to get out of where you are without doing that.
I think where your problem occurred is that at some point you made a nandroid backup in CWM, and by trying to restore that on stock, it's freaking out. If you can remember what ROM setup you had on your phone when you made the backup, you could try to get back to that setup to use the restore option in CWM.
Before doing any of the things you're doing now, had you made a backup in Titanium Backup?

I do have backup made with Titanium Backup.
apps data and everything that I could backup with Titanium Backup
Will restoring what I had backed up with Titanium Backup and then restoring the system using CWM work?
I am currently at 2.2 Froyo, which was the rom I was using when backing up using CWM

You've flashed 2.2 stock? If so just flash the rom you previously had with cwm then let it boot. After it boots reboot into cwm then perform a restore in cwm. If that doesnt work nand backup might not be good and you will just have to flash stock again and just rub tibu and leave it at that.
**Thing about NAND backups is that you have to use the same system when you restore (i.e. you nand backup usng cognition then you flash another rom when you nand restore its not going to boot).

Thanks guys for the suggestions!
My phone has been saved!

[Q] CWM Recovery - restore from backup - only data?

Hi Guys.
I haven't worked much with CWM so far and couldn't find a proper answer in the threads here.
When I do a restore from a CWM backup I've not seen an option to choose just data or apps ... so I suppose the whole system including the rom and kernel will be restored. right?
As I'm happy to have CM 10.1 running after all finally, I'd just like to restore the data (SMS, etc.) from a CWM backup. Is there a possibility to do so?
Thanks for your help.
Cheers

I don't think you can do that. I used titanium backup pro to restore only the apps+setting to do that.
Sent from my tf101

Ok, thanks. Should have thought about it before.... Sometimes fingers are faster than the brain.
Cheers

You can do an advanced restore and just restore /data but it's not recommented to do this coming from stock and restoring on CM I guess...

Afro said:
You can do an advanced restore and just restore /data but it's not recommented to do this coming from stock and restoring on CM I guess...
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Why not?

ProtheusIRC said:
Why not?
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Stock and CM use different bases, and therefore restoring data of Stock can bring over some incompatible data/apk's and this can and most likely will cause a bootloop, from reading i think i can establish the safest way when your changing Rom's is to full wipe and 'clean' install. However when going from nightly to nightly this is not needed, and some data can be restored between same android version Rom's, for example CM10.2 is 4.3.1, data may work on slimbean 4.3.1.
Hope this clears things up for you.

I would also suggest to do a clean install without data recovery. If you want your data you can use Titanium Backup for App data. For the other personal stuff you can make a backup to your PC..
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CWM Recovery, URGENT REPLY!!
I faced this problem that my rom got stuck on boot image, so I had another custom rom zip in my sdcard, so to install that I had to format my phone, now I have that backup and I only want to restore system settings, apps, app data, my data(sms, call logs and stuff), I dont want to restore the system or anything else which will make it get stuck on boot image again, now which choices shall I choose in advanced restore to restore only these specified items?
Please reply urgently as I have to travel in a few days and I wont be able to do it over there.
Cheers

[Q] NANDROID restores: TWRP won't boot, CWM corrupts data

Sorry for this being lengthy, I wanted to make sure I gave enough info.
Neither of the two most popular recovery tools are working for me. They both state the backups are successful but the restores have flaws. Is anyone experiencing the problems I am? If so, does anyone know what to do about them?
CWM Recovery Touch (and non-touch): Data restores leave certain things not working. I'm not sure what processes are stopping because it flashes and disappears to fast. I know that it causes the ROM Manager for CWM, Titanium Backup Pro, Google Play, and likely more to crash (disappear) immediately upon opening. Chrome browser *might* bright up the keyboard on the first click but it won't work then it will disappear and not come back (but the keyboard does work in other areas, I use Swype Keyboard). I've tried clearing cache and/or data on all 3, uninstalling them then re-installing via APK and various other things. This occurs regardless of whether a factory reset (data/cache) wipe is performed before the restore. However, if I restore with CWM Recovery *then* do a factory reset, Google Play will work and nothing crashes, nor are their long delays.
TWRP does not boot after a restore. It will pass the initial screen showing the phone model, the phone carrier splash screen, then sit on Samsung with the LED solid bright blue and hang.
My goal is to simply trust my backups. The CWM Recovery problem is workable in a terrible situation since my Titanium backups will get my phone *almost* to where it was (barring widgets, which are pain to re-setup, and a few other things).
Titanium Backup Pro question: Is it normal when you remove a system app with Titanium Backup Pro, then do a restore in CWM for that app to still be gone? Since I use the Swype keyboard I removed the other once, did a restore with CWM, had the problem so I did a factory reset and my stock keyboard was missing still (I think it's a Samsung keyboard)
App Details:
CWM Recovery Touch 6.0.4.7 (for Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE (GT-I9305))
TWRP 2.6.3.0 (for Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE (International i9305))
Phone Details:
Carrier: T-Mobile (Germany)
Model number: GT-I9305
Android Version: 4.3 (stock from Kies, so I do have Knox and it's disabled via SuperSU 1.91 from chainfire)
Baseband version: I9305XXUEMK1
Kernel version: 3.0.31-2051278
Build number: JSS15J.I9305XXUEML5

Titanium Backup Pro question: Is it normal when you remove a system app with Titanium Backup Pro, then do a restore in CWM for that app to still be gone?
No a Nandroid backup wipes the phone .
make a Nandroid then in recovery format system sdcard data cache .
You now have an empty phone and restoring the Nandroid should return exact same state .
All this reads as you are doing something wrong .

JJEgan said:
All this reads as you are doing something wrong .
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I hope it is as simple as that. I'm booting up in recovery mode (Volume Up + Home + Power) choosing the backup or restore option, then backing up to the External SD card. Then on the restore I'm doing the same except selecting restore from the SD card (I've re-created the CWM problem 5 times, once was with advanced restore of just data the rest were basic restores doing everything). I'm not really sure what I could be doing wrong.
I have the 4.3 stock ROM before I did any custom stuff to the phone (which installed KNOX). I used chainfire's tar.md5 auto root image with Odin 3.09 in download mode when I root the phone, and I've installed CWM Recovery with ROM Manager and with an Odin tar flash in download mode. The install of TWRP was from an Odin 3.09 tar flash in download mode too.
With regard to the TWRP and CWM Recovery, I'm not really sure how easy it is for me to have messed up that part. Do you have this same model phone? Is it possible KNOX is involved in my issues? Maybe I should downgrade one of the recovery tools?

Downgrade your recovery and try again.

jonesjw362 said:
Downgrade your recovery and try again.
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That's what I was thinking might be the best solution. Since the flaw in the restores with CWM Recovery are workable for me, I figured I may just wait until I have a need to restore to do that though. Once I do, I'll probably do a bunch of tests until I find something that works solid.
I've already restored my backups and widgets etc. a couple of times and don't really want to do it over again only to test. If there's a way to restore all of that without my having to set it up myself then I'll do it. Right now my Titanium restores don't include wallpaper (except lock screen), most of my widgets (maybe all, can't remember), and I think there was one other thing.

Advanced restore in recovery restore data only .

JJEgan said:
Advanced restore in recovery restore data only .
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I tried that once, that's why I believe the CWM Recovery issue to be specifically with data. I'm going to do it again right now though and if things are messed up again I'm going to try jonesjw362's suggestion.

Downgrading didn't help (6.0.3.6 had a constant barrage of 4-5 apps re-crashing over and over again during the process).
I tried the following with CWM Recovery Touch 6.0.3.6, 6.0.4.5 and 6.0.4.7:
Factory reset wipe, open and test Google Play (more things break but that's the one I chose to test). Reboot into recovery mode and backup to the SD Card (not the external). Immediately advance restored data only (no wipe). Booted up, Google Play crashed, rebooted back into recovery and factory reset (data/cache) and advance restored data again with the same result.
I didn't try a downgraded version of TWRP (probably won't for now). I'm back to 6.0.4.7 and restoring my backups to get my phone back fully. Hopefully CWM Recovery comes out with a new version sometime in the near future that works for me or someone has some insight into what I can do to fix it with the existing (I'm out of ideas).

Issue Samsung stock 4.3 ROM
I ended up switching to CM 10.1.3 (was going to hold off until 11 was stable) but the Samsung stock 4.3 ROM was destroying my battery. After switching, I tested a NANDROID backup and restore with CWM Recovery Touch 6.0.4.7 (same version I was having problems with). The restore worked as it should, no problems.
End Result: As far as I can tell, the cause of the CWM Recovery data partition problem is due to the Samsung 4.3 ROM.
Edit: I was going to mark the post Resolved but I can't seem to find the drop down to do so (at least not in the same place I thought it was).

[SOLVED] A functional CWM recovery for the Pop Plus (S5570i) ?

Hi,
I have a Galaxy Pop Plus (S5570i - rooted) which I currently renewed by reflashing the stock rom: I’ve done optimization/customization of both system and applications and now I’d wish to do a Nandroid backup of everything, since I plan to install/test some other rom.
In the past months I’ve tried some CWM recovery which installed fine, and all CWM which I tested were able to correctly performs the Nandroid backup on my SD card, but none of these CWM recovery were able to restore the backup; I don’t exactly remember the exact error message, but was something about the mounting of some partition, furthermore this failed restorings caused my phone to become bricked and I was forced to reflash the stock rom.
By searching on this forum I've find this discussion, about another version of CWM for the S5570i, especially on the following post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27179828&postcount=119
The user in such post ( draiyan ) said that he was able to backup and restore a Galaxy Mini Plus using the Skin1980-GT-S5360+CWM.zip file. Well: this CWM, as the other which I tried, boots fine on my phone and as the other which I tried, has been able to make a Nandroid backup, but I’d wish to have some other confirmation: is the CWM kin1980-GT-S5360+CWM.zip recovery able to restore the backup? Or maybe someone can suggest me a tested CWM for the Galaxy Mini Plus with the stock rom, which is able to correctly restore a Nandroid backup?
Many thanks.

Mister_Dave said:
is the CWM Skin1980-GT-S5360+CWM.zip recovery able to restore the backup? Or maybe someone can suggest me a tested CWM for the Galaxy Mini Plus with the stock rom, which is able to correctly restore a Nandroid backup?
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Well, I reply to myself, also for future references/needs of the people which will read this topic:
Yes: the CWM Skin1980-GT-S5360+CWM.zip recovery is able to properly backup and restore the Nandroid Backup on the Galaxy Mini/Pop Plus (S5570I), yesterday I decided to take the risk to restore the Nandroid backup and everything went fine: the restore was properly done, because using a root file explorer I made a text file under /system and /data: after the Nandroid restore these text file were no longer present, and after the reboot I found my phone in a previous state (before the restore the phone was in plane mode, after the restore the plane mode was disabled).