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Switching From Sprint to Verizon TOday!! (Question About Service)

Hey guys How everyone doing?
I see that you guys dont got a Q&A Section over here, so I decided to drop this here. Today i'm heading over to the store to switch from Sprint to Verizon.Needless to say Sprint service has only gotten worse over the years. Been with them for almost 10 years now (be 10 yrs in Janurary). AnyWhoo, I got a couple of questions for you guys, pretty straight forward, and Sorry in advance if this was the wrong place for this. But basically im coming from the EVO 3D (EVO 4G Previous to that) and I understand that the Razor is being released in early November, But I need to switch today cause between the TErrible 3G, and Data and such, I need my phone for work. My Co-Worker has Verizon and tells me that his Data coverage is amazing. So im thinking of picking up the Bionic, seeing that its the latest and greatest out right now on Verizon, But Ive been reading around for the past 24hrs that alot of people have there 3G/4G signal just cut off. Now I dont really lose my 3G (5 miles north of Boston) here, but the data speeds are just so slow that I cant really do anything most of the time. I got ROOT and all of that good stuff of course, but trying all the different Tweaks and Radios and such can only help so much. So my Question is, Is the Bionic Plagued with losing its 3G/4G signal out of no where constantly? I figured I'd ask you guys before I did anything today. Thats the one thing that worrys the most. Of course im also worried about root and such, cause over at the EVO 3D DEV section we got some great DEVin going on right now, But I really gotta focus on more important things than that right now. Any advice would be great fellas! I really appreciate it, and once again SORRY if this was put in the wrong place
Jon

I refuse to read this until you break some of this up into paragraphs....this is ridiculous.
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WOW.....Gee thanks for the help Brotha!!! that was so helpful in many ways. DO you really have that much trouble reading it? Jesus, DO you want me to add 10 periods between each word LOL?

I like my Bionic and all (and the coverage is certainly better than the ATT garbage I came from) but I would recommend seriously considering the Nexus Prime. (Screw the RAZR.) If you've been with Sprint for a decade, are you sure that you absolutely cannot wait another 2-4 weeks for a clean, unlockable phone?

Underwater Mike said:
I like my Bionic and all (and the coverage is certainly better than the ATT garbage I came from) but I would recommend seriously considering the Nexus Prime. (Screw the RAZR.) If you've been with Sprint for a decade, are you sure that you absolutely cannot wait another 2-4 weeks for a clean, unlockable phone?
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well that was my original intention. But the one thing i was worried about was AVAILABILITY for the galaxy nexus. I figured id would have to be a member of verizon in order to pre-order the nexus. So I thought maybe ill get the bionic for now until the galaxy nexus came out. But things with sprint has just gotten to bad lately. Its a tough decision, but now u got me second guessing LOL. that may be the best thing i think. Thanks for the feedback!!!

This is just my experience, but I have noticed the data has been dropping a lot lately. I lost data yesterday, but after I turned the phone on the off it came back.
My only issue with doing that is when I power down & restart I lose apps, which gets old. Then I have to download all again.
Its frustrating paying $110+ a month for something that loses data & forces me to reinstall apps.
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In. my opinion the bionic is a dirty phone and would recommend it to anyone the data is blazing fast and I very rarely have any data drops and I have to be in the middle of nowhere for that to happen. And with the fact that you can't add an extended battery to the razr this phone is just plain better.
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In. my opinion the bionic is a dirty phone and would recommend it to anyone the data is blazing fast and I very rarely have any data drops and I have to be in the middle of nowhere for that to happen. And with the fact that you can't add an extended battery to the razr this phone is just plain better.
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But the data drops aren't from spotty network, they're from a goofy radio. So, to me that is a toss-up. You can live in a prime coverage area, like me, and still have issues. The upcoming patch is supposed to fix the problem on all phones, but I will believe it when I see it. MOT has already backpedaled on the bootloader issue, so I would not be surprised to see them do so on a 100% radio fix.
As I said, I would not even consider the RAZR. I replaced the battery on my iPhone six times (no kidding), so the idea of not being able to swap a batt without disassembling the handset drives me nuts, even if it does take less than 10 minutes.
If you are able to get a Bionic now and trade to a Prime when they come out, then you really have nothing to lose. For someone who does not have that option, though, waiting a few extra weeks would be advisable IMO.

Another vote for waiting for the Galaxy Nexus. I really like my Bionic, but Motorola has already said, by releasing the Razr, that the Bionic isn't its priority anymore, and given the number of issues many are having with the phone and the locked bootloader, I'm tempted to say that if you can wait and get the GNex, you should. My 14 days ran out before the GNex was announced, but otherwise, I would've made the jump.
Also, skip the Razr altogether. It's a slightly improved Bionic with no user-replaceable battery. Don't bother.

I made the switch from Sprint to Verizon in July (to lock in the unlimited data plan - had to pay an ETF for that but it was worth it - I had an Evo 4G). Service and speeds are amazing, but as other posters have stated, I get the data drops like once a day. Usually, a flip to Airplane mode and back fixes the problem. I am sure it is bad radio code, not a bad network.
I started with a Droid Charge through Costco with the hope of being able to swap it out for the Bionic. As luck would have it, Costco eagerly replaced the Charge with a Bionic for both me and my wife because the Charge had such crappy bluetooth that would drop all the time for many of their customers. There was no argument when we went back in.
Now Bionic: I love the Webtop mode and for that reason would probably stick with Motorola, but my work may be different than yours. I'm typically in an office setting that has a lot of network lockdowns. Having a 'second computer' over which my employer has no control is very nice.
My concerns regarding the Nexus are two-fold: 1) I don't know if they will use the same crappy file system that they used on the Charge or if Google had complete control over the software down to that level of detail. It could also be that ICS uses a whole new file system - I just don't know - I am only pointing it out as an area I would research if I were making the same purchase decision as you are.
2) Development for the Charge was limited. With Google's impending purchase of Moto, I expect accelerated development on Moto products.
Finally, with regards to the Razr: Cool, but no replaceable battery means no battery pulls when things go wrong. I stand taller than 4'8" so an extra 5mm of phone thickness in my pocket is not an issue.

Hi Jon,
I've had EVERY carrier over the past few years, and I can say, Verizon is by far the best. In todays day in age where data is everything... Verizon brings it. Even 3G I would still sometimes get 1.5mbps, and now with LTE 4G, its amazing.
The price of Verizon is kind of "Eh" but, when I'm sitting on the Naval base (which gets horrific signal) and I can still pull 10-15mbps down, I can say I'm one happy guy.
The only thing that concerns me about Verizon is their policies on things, ie: Bootloaders, Rooting, etc. If I were you. I'd wait until the Nexus becomes available. If you go on craigslist, there are people willing to sell their old phone PLAN to you, as in those old unlimited data ones. HIGHLY suggest going there. I have had friends do that recently with NO issues.
Either way, As much as I love Sprint's phones (EVO 3D being OC'ed to 1.8Ghz) Verizon's reception is incredible nationwide If you have any questions, PM me!

I just realized that I neglected to address your real question. I recently switched from AT&T to Verizon, and the difference in network has been night and day. I went from getting 100kbps down on a good day with AT&T to consistently getting 500kbps+ with 4GLTE, and I've only dropped one call in the month+ I've had the phone. Switching to Verizon was among my better decisions I've made lately.

wanderfowl said:
Another vote for waiting for the Galaxy Nexus. I really like my Bionic, but Motorola has already said, by releasing the Razr, that the Bionic isn't its priority anymore, and given the number of issues many are having with the phone and the locked bootloader, I'm tempted to say that if you can wait and get the GNex, you should. My 14 days ran out before the GNex was announced, but otherwise, I would've made the jump.
Also, skip the Razr altogether. It's a slightly improved Bionic with no user-replaceable battery. Don't bother.
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I believe the Bionic is still a priority. They're advertising it during NFL games that it comes with free NFL network. The average user doesn't really care about a lot of what we talk about on here. Some people will prefer the bulk of the Bionic, and others will prefer the Razr.
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I would definitely recommend waiting for both the razr and galaxy nexus to be released, then going to the store and giving 5 minutes to each phone. I like my bionic, but I regret not examining it more closely before buying it. But with that being said, the battery life on this is amazing with the extended battery, and that is a critical factor for most. How would you like to have a droid razr that only lasts half a day? Sure it looks pretty, but what's the point if it's off half the time. As for the galaxy nexus, samsung is on fire now, so I have no doubt that it'll be the best phone you can have.
reverepats said:
Hey guys How everyone doing?
I see that you guys dont got a Q&A Section over here, so I decided to drop this here. Today i'm heading over to the store to switch from Sprint to Verizon.Needless to say Sprint service has only gotten worse over the years. Been with them for almost 10 years now (be 10 yrs in Janurary). AnyWhoo, I got a couple of questions for you guys, pretty straight forward, and Sorry in advance if this was the wrong place for this. But basically im coming from the EVO 3D (EVO 4G Previous to that) and I understand that the Razor is being released in early November, But I need to switch today cause between the TErrible 3G, and Data and such, I need my phone for work. My Co-Worker has Verizon and tells me that his Data coverage is amazing. So im thinking of picking up the Bionic, seeing that its the latest and greatest out right now on Verizon, But Ive been reading around for the past 24hrs that alot of people have there 3G/4G signal just cut off. Now I dont really lose my 3G (5 miles north of Boston) here, but the data speeds are just so slow that I cant really do anything most of the time. I got ROOT and all of that good stuff of course, but trying all the different Tweaks and Radios and such can only help so much. So my Question is, Is the Bionic Plagued with losing its 3G/4G signal out of no where constantly? I figured I'd ask you guys before I did anything today. Thats the one thing that worrys the most. Of course im also worried about root and such, cause over at the EVO 3D DEV section we got some great DEVin going on right now, But I really gotta focus on more important things than that right now. Any advice would be great fellas! I really appreciate it, and once again SORRY if this was put in the wrong place
Jon
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The radio CAN go wonky, but it seems to be only when you are in a mediocre LTE area or otherwise are switching between LTE and CDMA connections. If stability is more important to you than speed, I've found that if I set my radio mode to CDMA only, the connection is rock solid. As an added plus, the battery lasts MUCH longer without the LTE radio going!
EDIT: Also, the speed is very acceptable, even on 3G/CDMA. I had a Sprint Photon 4G and 3G throughput often didn't break 200Kbps in either direction. With my Bionic, i regularly get 600Kbps+.

Dude I've had the same dilemma. After my fiasco with Epic 4g Touch with terrible reception and slow internet (where my EVO was doing just fine) I left Sprint and signed my soul out to Verizon.
I also couldn't wait for Galaxy Nexus which I'm gonna get eventually.
Now. I didn't want to get an expensive temporary phone so I went for LG Revolution. God I'm glad they have that 14 days exchange policy. What a piece of junk.
So now I've got Bionic and I'm temporarily happy.
Now the important stuff.
I drive truck all over the country and all I can say about Verizon coverage is wow. I don't know what a dropped call is and I can watch Hulu almost everywhere.
The infamous LOS happened to me every now and then on that POS Revolution (Stock unrooted). Now I read that this is happening on Bionic too. So it must be the network problem then. Nothing we can do about that I'm afraid.
It didn't happen yet on my new Bionic but I've gotten it 2 days ago.
Rooted and de-bloated today so we'll see.
BTW. I don't believe Galaxy Nexus will come out according to leaks. (11.10)
Similar leak said Motorola Razr will come before (10.27) and now it's for pre-order on VZ website saying "Will ship by 11.10.11.
I think Galaxy Nexus will follow that pattern and it will go on pre-order 11.10 and will start to ship 2-3 weeks from that date.
But I would be more than thrilled if I'm being wrong.
reverepats said:
Hey guys How everyone doing?
I see that you guys dont got a Q&A Section over here, so I decided to drop this here. Today i'm heading over to the store to switch from Sprint to Verizon.Needless to say Sprint service has only gotten worse over the years. Been with them for almost 10 years now (be 10 yrs in Janurary). AnyWhoo, I got a couple of questions for you guys, pretty straight forward, and Sorry in advance if this was the wrong place for this. But basically im coming from the EVO 3D (EVO 4G Previous to that) and I understand that the Razor is being released in early November, But I need to switch today cause between the TErrible 3G, and Data and such, I need my phone for work. My Co-Worker has Verizon and tells me that his Data coverage is amazing. So im thinking of picking up the Bionic, seeing that its the latest and greatest out right now on Verizon, But Ive been reading around for the past 24hrs that alot of people have there 3G/4G signal just cut off. Now I dont really lose my 3G (5 miles north of Boston) here, but the data speeds are just so slow that I cant really do anything most of the time. I got ROOT and all of that good stuff of course, but trying all the different Tweaks and Radios and such can only help so much. So my Question is, Is the Bionic Plagued with losing its 3G/4G signal out of no where constantly? I figured I'd ask you guys before I did anything today. Thats the one thing that worrys the most. Of course im also worried about root and such, cause over at the EVO 3D DEV section we got some great DEVin going on right now, But I really gotta focus on more important things than that right now. Any advice would be great fellas! I really appreciate it, and once again SORRY if this was put in the wrong place
Jon
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The 27th was always the pre-order date for the RAZR, a few sites got it confused.

Stank0 said:
Dude I've had the same dilemma. After my fiasco with Epic 4g Touch with terrible reception and slow internet (where my EVO was doing just fine) I left Sprint and signed my soul out to Verizon.
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Same for me with the Samsung epic 4g touch. Just crap of a phone samsucks when it comes to udates on their firmware even my wife has the nexus s great software updates. Horrible firmware and software fixes from Samsung. Galaxy nexus will suffer from samsungs lack of updates for fixes and issues. Look at the Droid charge. I just switched from sprint 2 weeks ago and took over someones unlimited plan and bought my bionic happy now
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Also have HTC rezound coming too
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MillionManMosh said:
The 27th was always the pre-order date for the RAZR, a few sites got it confused.
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The leak shows the release date for Razr as 10.27.11 (Engadget) and it became available for pre-order that date. (or was it 29th?) the same way it shows release date for Galaxy Nexus as 11.10.11.
By way of extrapolation, Galaxy Nexus will be availale for pre-order 11.10.11.
And again, I'd LOVE to be wrong.

Random reboots.

*no need to comment problem resolved thank you*
kinda pissed im on my third d3. 1st one random reboot problems sent it back got a refurbished one. 2nd one headphone jack stoped working. 3rd one refurbished once again. this 3rd one that i got came with a dead pixle yes annoying but i lived with it also sliding mechinism scratched the gloss yes annoying i lived with it random reboots ok problem. i know i can fix it but i dont feel like spending the time to do it. ive been at it since the original droid custom roms kernels all that fun stuff and i would like to start developing not there yet but im not an idiot. my plan is to call verizon and get a droid 4 but i havent decided if i want to yet the only problems i see with the d4 are no removable battery/locked bootloader/motoblur. locked bootloader could possibly eventually be unlocked who knows. so i can cross out bootloader i can deal. motoblur i can just run the .sh or something to remove the bloat an get a better rom. so cross off motoblur. no removable battery thoughts?
im not asking for help fixing it because i know i can and no its not as easy as an .sbf at this point.
i know my information isnt perfect but i had my original droid for what 3 years? one not 2 of them one, and that thing runs beautifully. unlocked bootloader/removable battery/sturdy heavy. why don't they make em like they used to? moto blur free
so excuse my grammar and such im kinda ranting cause of the time ive spent working on it and im kinda angry but now i need to decide if i should get the droid 4.
minus how to fix my droid 3 cause im going to but im ya LOL scatter brain
thoughts on non removable battery?
your opinions and thoughts are valued.
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If you're getting random reboots you may wanna try rooting and putting a custom bootstrap on there and wiping cache and delvik. Also there are some ROMs w\o Blur and you can choose between it or not. But the Blur isn't too bad at all once you get past the Verizon crap. I run Liberty and it's just Blur and Android, no Verizon crap except for My Verizon.

For the reboots, see if it still does it with no sd card in. I had read that there was a directory that could be causing it.
For the battery, do you carry a backup battery with you now? If not, who cares if you can take it out? My D1 I had multiple backup batteries, and I used them. My D3 I haven't had to use my backup yet, it is big enough to get me through the day, and the D4 has an even bigger one (course there's always the 4G to suck up all that power)
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My Droid 3 only reboots itself, if I leave it in Airplanemode for 8 hours or so. Then it reboots automatically. When not in Airplanemode it never reboots itself.
Maybe this helps?

thanks all its decided. im now getting my 4th refurbished droid 3. hopefully its not a pos again.

Im having the same issue lately. Ill try the suggestions here tonight when I get off work and let you know how it goes.

I'm upgrading from the Droid3, but this is the best built, most reliable phone I've ever owned. You guys must either be extremely hard on yours or extremely unlucky.
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UNLUCKY lol received my 4th refurbished one its perfect btw. i take care of my tech.

jellman said:
UNLUCKY lol received my 4th refurbished one its perfect btw. i take care of my tech.
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I got my Droid 3 about 5 or 6 months ago (if I'm remembering correctly) and I have yet to get a scratch anywhere besides the back of the screen (where the clips slide.) Now thats taking care of your technology, considering I use it all day, every day.

ChaoticWeaponry said:
I got my Droid 3 about 5 or 6 months ago (if I'm remembering correctly) and I have yet to get a scratch anywhere besides the back of the screen (where the clips slide.) Now thats taking care of your technology, considering I use it all day, every day.
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i take care of my tech but, im sure you do the best job in the whole world with yours better than everyone congratulations. i am not hard on my phones.

I used to have random reboots while on Liberty and Mav, none Steel or any CM9A5+, since then I have recovered to both without any reboots, not sure, but assume complete wipes/resets between GB and ICS resolved issue.
CM9A7
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Goodbye Bionic Hello Nexus

Well it's a story known all to well. I had the bionic. Every time I would call Verizon they would tell me to wait for the new update that was around the corner or they would just replace the phone with another Bionic. The new. 905 update just made the phone unusable. I finally broke down and called verizion yet again not expecting any real help. I was very kind and basically killed em with kindness. After explaining that I have had issues since day one and that I required a working smartphone for work and there was a history of me calling all the time, they finally moved me to what they called level 2 support. Had to explain the whole process from day one to now again. The man was very kind, as was I and offered me a thunderbolt. I asked him if there was any way to change out to a different dual core 4g phone cause the thunderbolt was a step backwards. He then said he could give me a razr. OK I guess but I then asked if he could do any dual core 4g that wasn't a Motorola. He said no at first cause phone companies are cracking down on the exchanging phone issue. As I started to say OK send me the razr, he asked if I would hold for about 10min. I said sure. When he came back he said I can tell you are not happy with Motorola at all and in general not happy with the way things have been handled. He said he asked his boss if something could be done and got approved the Galaxy Nexus for me. Now I am waiting on it to arrive. (If you are willing to take a total of an hour and a half and be extra kind and not demand stuff they will work with you. Key is to keep talking till they offer a phone and never say no if they offer a phone you don't want. Just ask if its possible for something else in an indirect way) So I can't wait to start being part of the nexus forum and am very excited to be getting a phone with an unlocked bootloader again. My Incredible was just that. Incredible. I am hoping the nexus will be the same.
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Congratulations, but the "big mistake" is unnecessary and kind of insulting. I've never had any problems with mine unless I was on one of the GB-based ICS ROMs.

Sorry if offended. I have had nothing but trouble from this phone. It has been so unreliable its not funny. Even with the ics leaks I still had issues. It would had been a great experience if it was reliable. I am not the type that likes to offend so I will remove that part. Apologies my friend.

I was just being a baby. Maybe it's just me being jealous. Seriously Congrats on the S3. My brother just got one (I made him pre order to not screw up our family's unlimited plans) and I want to make love to it.

I thought the op got a galaxy nexus not a s3
Too bad you been having problems with your bionic, I haven't have any problems with mines even on the ICS leaks from 2231-235
Hope you enjoy the gnex more than I do bc for me the bionic have a better reception/data connection than the gnex I had

It is a nexus that is on its way indeed. Thanks and I am not too worried about reception as I am stability. The bionic just would not stay connected to data for nothing except on .902 and even with that I had to battery pull about every 2-3 days cause of no data. Even with the ics leaks. 3 bionics and all have had the same problem. It would have been a great phone just if data was a solid connection and an unlocked bootloader. Maybe for those still with the bionic maybe you will get an unlock tool one day. Saw a tweet from Motorola about a week ago saying they were working on one but of course its been said for a year they were going to unlock the bootloaders.

Nexus, my bad. Too many Galaxy devices going on right now! the Galaxy Nexus is a piece of sheer beauty though. Someone came with with the GSM variant on 4.1.1 for me to root, and I was amazed at just how smooth JB is.

I would not ditch a Bionic for a Nexus now.

I ditched the bionic for any dual core 4g phone they would give me. Just so happened to be a nexus.

I just got off my 3rd phone call with VZW.
1st call- Told them some of what I had tried to do to fix the data dropping. (All of which I read about here or elsewhere on the interwebz) Removed battery, adjusted nighttime settings.
Result- New Sim Card, no data drops for 2 days, then they came back with a vengence
2nd call- They asked me to factory reset my phone. I'm a little bit pissed at this point but I tried it. They are the expert in this conversation and I figured refusal to waste my time would result in me wasting more time before anything was actually resolved. Also I didn't want to end up yelling at some poor soul in a call center.
Result- Data drop within 3 hours of resetting the phone.
(less than 10 minutes ago) 3rd call- Samsung Galaxy Nexus is being shipped to me. I was leaning towards the razr but they told me that the razr was having some data problems as well. I'm really sick of this and just want a working 4g smartphone. 4g is the greatest thing before or after sliced bread, I can watch youtube with no buffering at any time. I loved the bionic so very much visible screen in direct sunlight ftw, good build qualify, fits well in my hand, ect. I didn't have to hint or argue with them to get the nexus, I asked what phones were available to me and they said the Nexus and the Razr. I hinted about the S3 and they shot that down without missing a beat, probably knew I was going to ask before I started. Also I'm getting the extended battery because they are out of the regular batteries.
Result- Oh please merciful spaghetti monster let phone work out.
If you're having data trouble call them and follow the steps. I'll see you in the nexus forum, I'll be the one lurking.

Never
Never ever have I had problem with my Bionic. I would never of traded, no way Jose. With ICS its the best thing out. Strong casing, not that plastic thin stuff. Love my Bionic but if you happy and it is what it is. Good luck with the Nexus. Reading all posts here seems like people feel the same way. In the past I never waited that long for an exchange lol.
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Surlock said:
I just got off my 3rd phone call with VZW.
1st call- Told them some of what I had tried to do to fix the data dropping. (All of which I read about here or elsewhere on the interwebz) Removed battery, adjusted nighttime settings.
Result- New Sim Card, no data drops for 2 days, then they came back with a vengence
2nd call- They asked me to factory reset my phone. I'm a little bit pissed at this point but I tried it. They are the expert in this conversation and I figured refusal to waste my time would result in me wasting more time before anything was actually resolved. Also I didn't want to end up yelling at some poor soul in a call center.
Result- Data drop within 3 hours of resetting the phone.
(less than 10 minutes ago) 3rd call- Samsung Galaxy Nexus is being shipped to me. I was leaning towards the razr but they told me that the razr was having some data problems as well. I'm really sick of this and just want a working 4g smartphone. 4g is the greatest thing before or after sliced bread, I can watch youtube with no buffering at any time. I loved the bionic so very much visible screen in direct sunlight ftw, good build qualify, fits well in my hand, ect. I didn't have to hint or argue with them to get the nexus, I asked what phones were available to me and they said the Nexus and the Razr. I hinted about the S3 and they shot that down without missing a beat, probably knew I was going to ask before I started. Also I'm getting the extended battery because they are out of the regular batteries.
Result- Oh please merciful spaghetti monster let phone work out.
If you're having data trouble call them and follow the steps. I'll see you in the nexus forum, I'll be the one lurking.
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Won't see me there. Never had data drops and since everyone is in 4g there is no 3g traffic so 3g is very smooth. Also the fact that they gave u the fat battery means they will send u the back also which when connected, it will be heavier. But if you're happy thats what counts/
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The reason they're running out of Bionis is because people are re-buying them. G o to Swappa and see that price has not dropped and that the demad is high. The Bionic is back.

Getting a new Bionic and sim card sent to me. Hopefully it works better than this one.
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For those being sent a Nexus, what about your Bionic? Did they want it mailed back to them? Did they say keep it?

vzw
my bionic's headphone jack started going bad about 5 months in, called vzw and they sent me a new phone for free being it was under warranty. I love the bionic, if it's broke, just fix it.

To those who haven't had any trouble with the bionic, I envy you greatly. I think I've given the phone more than a fair shake at this point and it gave me a white 4g signal of doom in return.
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For those being sent a Nexus, what about your Bionic? Did they want it mailed back to them? Did they say keep it?
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They want it back. I'd like to keep it, perhaps one day, when cars fly, moto will fix it and I'd have a valuable backup, or maybe the nexus would be the back up. Or I could use it like a tiny tablet for....something.

The Bionic could have been a great phone if it was not for the LOCKED BOOT LOADER, and the monsterious level of bloatware(I blame Verizon/Motorola, and not android for this issue). My experience with pure google phones has been outstanding(I own a Nexus S 4g), heck most of the modder's/developers on XDA are in essence trying to actually enjoy the greatness of simply pure google. Why else would I install a custom ROM, because most of the custom rom's are faster and bloatware free. I have what cellphone carriers have done to great phones, quite simply they turn them to ****.

My Verizon contract just ran out and I traded my Bionic for an unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus. I never had any problems with my Bionic and loved it, but the Nexus is a better phone. It's amazing how much faster and smoother it seems, and the build quality is very good. It's not cheap feeling at all. I think the Bionic's flimsy back actually made it feel a little cheaper. I do miss the Bionic's super bright screen outside, though. That thing is just amazingly visible in direct sunlight. The Nexus' screen can't hold a candle to it in that regard, at least.

I am curious to know if anyone here, that has switched from the Bionic to the Nexus, actually used ICS on their Bionic first. When I switched over to ICS from GB on my Bionic, it WAS like having a whole new phone, and responsiveness was amazing. Probably the same experience I would have gotten if I had upgraded from a .905 Bionic to a Nexus.
Well, that was my thought last night, so I called VZW and after about 10 minutes the conversation got to the point where they were offering me a replacement. No yelling or any arguing was required - it was very nice. They offered me any 4G LTE phone except the HTC 1X, Galaxy SIII or new Incredible (for free and no contract extension). They said that the Galaxy Nexus and Razr MAXX were probably the best that were available. After much deliberation, I opted for the Razr MAXX since I think it barely wins out due to the awesome battery life. Plus, ICS is officially released for it, so it's an upgrade from the Bionic any way you look at it. It should arrive in 2-3 days. I have no idea what the development community is like for the MAXX; I was just kind of hoping there was something out there.
Worst case scenario - I don't like it, sell it on eBay and buy a Nexus with the sale money.

crobs808 said:
I am curious to know if anyone here, that has switched from the Bionic to the Nexus, actually used ICS on their Bionic first. When I switched over to ICS from GB on my Bionic, it WAS like having a whole new phone, and responsiveness was amazing. Probably the same experience I would have gotten if I had upgraded from a .905 Bionic to a Nexus.
Well, that was my thought last night, so I called VZW and after about 10 minutes the conversation got to the point where they were offering me a replacement. No yelling or any arguing was required - it was very nice. They offered me any 4G LTE phone except the HTC 1X, Galaxy SIII or new Incredible (for free and no contract extension). They said that the Galaxy Nexus and Razr MAXX were probably the best that were available. After much deliberation, I opted for the Razr MAXX since I think it barely wins out due to the awesome battery life. Plus, ICS is officially released for it, so it's an upgrade from the Bionic any way you look at it. It should arrive in 2-3 days. I have no idea what the development community is like for the MAXX; I was just kind of hoping there was something out there.
Worst case scenario - I don't like it, sell it on eBay and buy a Nexus with the sale money.
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I never rooted my bionic and my reading lead me to believe that the dev community hadn't fixed this particular issue with the data. You can buy a 4k battery fro the nexus for $20 so that wasn't a big issue to me. They didn't offer me a maxx just the regular razr.

Yeah, I've seen that 4K battery...Yikes. It could power a boat. The biggest appeal to the Nexus is unlocked bootloader and slim profile. Everything can have ICS these days, with the right hacks, so the "always get the latest updates from Google" tagline never swayed me. I still don't see how it beats the MAXX. I guess I'll find out soon enough if I made the right choice. I never had any complaints about the screen on the Bionic, and the MAXX is supposed to be the same if not a little better. I sit in front of an HD display all day at work to compare it to.

I miss you guys

It's become so quiet here... I'm still revolted, anyone else? Mt, where have you gone? We are leaderless
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I'm new to all this but i've had my Revo for half a year now. I check the forum constantly hoping for something new (mainly CM9), i have no idea how to mod or rom, but i have themed quite a bit of my phone with applications and guides all across the web. At one point i considered going to BO, but after seeing so many people having issues with it i decided to stay with Gingervolt.

I've still got the Revo, I don't wanna shell out the extra cash for a new phone. It is sad how this form has slowly lost activity over the past few months. Everyone was always so helpful and polite. As for CM9 and future developments of BO IMO I think that's over with but I'm still gonna stick around for awhile and check up things here...

My Revo has been on BO 2.0.1 with the V6 supercharger tweak and it has been running great. MT made this thing a whole new animal. In all honesty though, if I had the money, I would get a different phone. Simply for the amount of development other devices have.
I got an Asus TF300 tablet a few months back as a father's day gift and there is at least 6 developers working on ROM's and Kernels. It makes you wonder how much better the Revo really would be if more developers had jumped on the Revo (especially with an unlocked bootloader).
In 6 months, I will be able to upgrade. I wonder what the "Next Big Thing" will be then?

I keep coming back every once in a while just to see what's going on. I miss my revo sometimes.
Sent from my Bionic on leaked ICS!

I am still using the revo despite earlier griping and looking into getting a DROID 4. I just decided I didn't want to shell out the money for another phone or go through multiple returns to get something better. I have left the phone alone for a while now and the lack of constant fiddling with the setup seems to have improved the performance and stability. I think I will be fine staying with the revo for about another year.

The Kraken! said:
I am still using the revo despite earlier griping and looking into getting a DROID 4. I just decided I didn't want to shell out the money for another phone or go through multiple returns to get something better. I have left the phone alone for a while now and the lack of constant fiddling with the setup seems to have improved the performance and stability. I think I will be fine staying with the revo for about another year.
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Verizon has gotten enough complaints about the revo , they are switching out for bionics or thunderbolts. I just switched about 2 weeks ago from a revolution to a bionic.
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Obsidian_soul said:
Verizon has gotten enough complaints about the revo , they are switching out for bionics or thunderbolts. I just switched about 2 weeks ago from a revolution to a bionic.
Sent from my Jelly Bean Bionic
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I have some questions for ya. What did you say to Verizon about your Revo? How long had you had your Revo for, and was it past warranty? Thanks

kyledyr said:
I have some questions for ya. What did you say to Verizon about your Revo? How long had you had your Revo for, and was it past warranty? Thanks
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I owned my Revo for about 8 months. It was still under warranty. I told Verizon that the 4G radio was not working and I had done all the usual trouble shooting. When they offered to replace with an another Revo. I told them that I wanted an equivalent phone because of the known problems. They then offered up a bionic and a thunderbolt. I chose the bionic because of the better development
Hope this helps
Sent from my Jelly Bean Bionic

Damn, perhaps I should have done that lol. Well 1/28/13 is coming up relatively soon. I think I can hang in there for a few more months.
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I will have to get up the will and make some time to go through the process of putting it back to stock before returning but thanks for the tip. I have so much to do right now that it will be a while before I can do it. Maybe it will be a Christmas present to myself!

[Q] The time after 4.2

Hey there,
I'm thinking about my last weeks with my O2x, my Nexus4 is already ordered.
But what will be after CM10/4.2, is there anybody who will use this phone after 4.2
Is there anybody who will create Android 5.0 for this (stupid) phone?
What do you think?

I suppose that me and many other people will use it till it works. If it will work next 30 years, i will probably use O2x for next 30 years.

Yop, I think I will buy next phone in 2014. O2X works, still 2 cores are enough.
N4 looks good, but not for 500€.

yes of course i also use my phone for 30 years if needed, i'll only a buy new android if i seen a smartphone that will satisfy my needs

Pascalwb said:
Yop, I think I will buy next phone in 2014. O2X works, still 2 cores are enough.
N4 looks good, but not for 500€.
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In germany the Nexus 4 is cheap, so I will buy it from the market for 349€. :silly::silly:
I am so glad if have my new phone, the LGOS is a mess...

for me,its time to try new OS.i am w8ing lumia 920 to be available in mine country.I'am tired of lags,slowness,flashing roms... and all about Android seems to be. There is lags 2 in top models like S3 with pr.butter so... android still need a lots of improvement in terms of smoothness,bugs....
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I will use it of course, hoping it will became better every day with new roms! (as it is happening)

havent you learned....
history repeats itself..... there will always be software faster than hardware.......
unless you want to buy a new piece of hardware every 2 months.

Ordered my N4 for 350€ in germany, but I still love my 02x and I will give this phone to my mom because its good... For a normal user like my mom this phone is great with ics.

Pascalwb said:
Yop, I think I will buy next phone in 2014. O2X works, still 2 cores are enough.
N4 looks good, but not for 500€.
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I am on the same opinion

10 years average, as long as it dont get wrecked or broken. i'll have it for a long time. new phone will come when i need it, not when i want it =P

4.0.4 is good enough for me.
I guess I'll keep using the O2X until it doesn't work anymore.

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new phone will come when i need it, not when i want it =P
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My thoughts exactly.
As for the OP's question re: Android 5, might as well think about v.10 or whatever, it would be as (ir)relevant... I am pretty positive v.4.x will be the last for this phone, but I don't care, as long as it works. Even earlier this year I was still using Treo 680 with PalmOS 5. Great phone; the only thing that sucked on it was the internet access, hence my move to Android...

kt-Froggy said:
My thoughts exactly.
As for the OP's question re: Android 5, might as well think about v.10 or whatever, it would be as (ir)relevant... I am pretty positive v.4.x will be the last for this phone, but I don't care, as long as it works. Even earlier this year I was still using Treo 680 with PalmOS 5. Great phone; the only thing that sucked on it was the internet access, hence my move to Android...
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the two phones before this one, was a O2 Xda (Qtec 2020), and a Nokia 7110 i bought 2 extra batteries for each phone over the years to keep them going, and except for a bit of a clean, they are both in pretty excellent condition. i thought i'd get with the times and buy a decent phone.
and i went for something i thought was build very well, with lots of ways to customize, with many possible configs, soon after getting it, i was on the same wagon as the auto reboots and other problems that LG dug themselves with updates. but i'm happy with my purchase. its been worth the cost. and the outcome after the amazing help from the devs here my phone is F*cking awesome. my younger brother has a S3 and its a very pretty phone, i've done my work on it rooting it and moding it for him. and i do like it. but i see my phone as something that works and does not need replacing any time soon.

I am happy if I get my Nexus 4.
My o2x broke with ICS four times, and I must reinstall all apps.
Really annoying if you need your phone for your job.
I'm really really curious about the Nexus 4, will be my second Christmas if it arrives in January.