Hi all,
I noticed that LG Optimus 2x has the lowest display battery consumption percentage I have ever seen on any Android device. Independent from the ROM I use, I usually get between 3 and 10 (very rarely!) percent in the battery stats. All other devices I have seen until now usually have the highest percentage for display. My highest normally is cell standby or phone inactive.
So, does that mean that our phone part of the handset uses much more power than the phone part of other devices? Or does our display just use less? Or is the reporting simply different from other android models?
Since my battery goes down faster when display is on, I cannot really believe that display consumes only 3% of my power. Otherwise, when display is on, the processor also has to work so that might be the reason for consumption being higher with display activated....
Any thoughts on that?
Thanks!
Did you see my post? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193402
It could be similar in some ways.
What do you see in Spare Parts? In the network usage ( Spare Parts -> Battery History -> "Network Usage"). Maybe your network is active when the display is on.
Help me with my battery its draining FAST!!
Some tweaks or mod ??
buy a big mah battery which is compatible with mini
and next time ask the question in Q&A section
delete every apps that you don't use, the brightness in the minimun possible, mode plane in the night, etc....
Just as the title says is the power saver options like CPU and data connection really useful as well as the "sleep mode" option in power settings or are they making battery life worse?
If they are power savings options i don't see any reason why it would drain even more?
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shahkam said:
If they are power savings options i don't see any reason why it would drain even more?
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well according to this quote from another thread on xda in the sprint htc one forum,so I wasn't sure because it says it does make it worse.
"Power Saver mode will not save you any remarkable amount of battery unless you are maxing out the CPU or GPU (like playing games). Since what it does under the cover (besides what it advertises in the options) is downclock the CPU, this can actually be a detriment to battery life. It is better for battery life for the CPU to run at max speed for very short periods, and then go to sleep. It uses more power by running slower (and thus staying awake longer)."
-Vincent Law
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link to the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347615&highlight=power+saver
Anyone?
I keep the power saver on most of the time. The main things I notice is that it dims the display (not really an issue if you work indoors) and it disables the wifi and data connections after periods of inactivity.
No real downsides (I'd be curious to hear other people's experiences). Sometimes receiving WhatsApp messages takes a couple extra minutes if the data/wifi connection goes to sleep.
Seems to give me good battery life - I average 15-18 hours, and that's including a fair amount of on-screen time and music/podcasts during the day.
I used power saver quite a bit in the 2 months after I got the phone but I don't use it anymore. In my experience it helped very little (as in added an hour or 2 maybe to overall life per charge). My baseline average battery life is 21hrs GSam tells me, and that's without power saver on at all (wifi, nfc, cellular always on and screen at 100%) and about 3hrs screen on time.
It may just be that, as was mentioned above, my use doesn't utilize the benefits of power saver because I don't often do cpu intensive things. It did run a bit cooler though. I also prevented the mode from diming the screen. I always (and still do) found that most of my power was going to the system (apps etc) @80% even with the screen maxed, and that I would lose about 20% overnight with our without power saver. So I stopped using it because : 1. It didn't improve MY USE 2. I didn't like the notification icon 3. I hear really good things about Battery Guru from experienced XDAers and the app seems more intelligent than power saver to me so I use that now. Unfortunately it's still too early to tell how much this will increase my average usage.
Regarding the issue of damaging your battery, the way it was brought up refers to the number of charge - discharge cycles a battery has. So only something that discharges the battery more quickly (so that you have to do another charge cycle more quickly) will shorten the battery's life. If nothing else, logically using power saver would not do this. It won't hurt the battery and may not hurt your usage (remember the GPU can still run at full clock for games), but I don't think it will help you much either based on my experience.
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racingmatt1 said:
well according to this quote from another thread on xda in the sprint htc one forum,so I wasn't sure because it says it does make it worse.
"Power Saver mode will not save you any remarkable amount of battery unless you are maxing out the CPU or GPU (like playing games). Since what it does under the cover (besides what it advertises in the options) is downclock the CPU, this can actually be a detriment to battery life. It is better for battery life for the CPU to run at max speed for very short periods, and then go to sleep. It uses more power by running slower (and thus staying awake longer)."
-Vincent Law
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link to the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347615&highlight=power+saver
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dont believe everything you see online. All it does it limit the CPU, as opposed to running 1700mhz, its capped at 1134mhz, this is not detrimental.
it takes power to make power, undervolting and downclocking processors has been repeatedly proven to assist and aid battery life.
it takes a certain balance or the two to get great results. Mind you the stock kernel is great but its adaptive. So dont be discouraged when seeing bad battery life initially.
If I leave my phone off charge overnight, I usually loose around 5%. If I turn powersaver on, I only loose 1-2%. This is with around 8-10 hours of no usage, with wifi on. It also turns off vibration feedback when using the back and home keys.
I've also noticed the phone to be slightly less responsive with power saver on. As far as I can tell, if you are concerned whether your battery will last you the few more hours you need, it will definitely help save power
It makes a difference and if you need the extra juice it will help you.
However, the amount of difference depends on your use.
If I am using Snapdragon Battery Guru should I deactivate Power Saver? Is the Power Saver a better/worse solution or a complementary one for optimising battery life?
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If I am using Snapdragon Battery Guru should I deactivate Power Saver? Is the Power Saver a better/worse solution or a complementary one for optimising battery life?
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Theoretically they should work together fine because Battery Guru studies what you do with your phone so that it can figure out what to prioritize and what to shut down - it adapts so it should adapt to the power saver situation. Underclocking the cpu shouldn't change what services it adjusts because you're still doing all the same things.
Battery Guru just finished "learning" on my phone yesterday so I don't know how good it is. But I lost 40% overnight for some reason which has never happened before. It's probably still adapting. Life seems to be better during use...
The comment above about the OS being adaptive is also very true, my first few charge cycles were dismal but they got better within a week (without power saver etc.)
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Theoretically they should work together fine because Battery Guru studies what you do with your phone so that it can figure out what to prioritize and what to shut down - it adapts so it should adapt to the power saver situation. Underclocking the cpu shouldn't change what services it adjusts because you're still doing all the same things.
Battery Guru just finished "learning" on my phone yesterday so I don't know how good it is. But I lost 40% overnight for some reason which has never happened before. It's probably still adapting. Life seems to be better during use...
The comment above about the OS being adaptive is also very true, my first few charge cycles were dismal but they got better within a week (without power saver etc.)
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Ya I'm using Juice Defender Plus on my HTC one running 4.1.2 for a few months now and I'm not sure if it's making too much of difference. Are you finding Battery Curu pretty decent?
I turned it off on my wife's HTC One. It was disabling data/wifi after several minutes inactivity, which caused FB Messenger to freak out and stay awake, which caused the battery to drain faster than if the data was just left on.
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If I leave my phone off charge overnight, I usually loose around 5%. If I turn powersaver on, I only loose 1-2%. This is with around 8-10 hours of no usage, with wifi on. It also turns off vibration feedback when using the back and home keys.
I've also noticed the phone to be slightly less responsive with power saver on. As far as I can tell, if you are concerned whether your battery will last you the few more hours you need, it will definitely help save power
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Hmm... If I leave my phone off the charger overnight after a full charge with power saver with WiFi on for 6 hours it will be down to 95% with no usage.
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Ya I'm using Juice Defender Plus on my HTC one running 4.1.2 for a few months now and I'm not sure if it's making too much of difference. Are you finding Battery Curu pretty decent?
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Sorry still to early to tell really, it's learning period ended yesterday so it'll take time for GSam to find the new average usage. But again it SEEMS to have improved drain during use. I'm really not sure what the drain last night was but if it happens again tonight the app is gone...
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Hmm... If I leave my phone off the charger overnight after a full charge with power saver with WiFi on for 6 hours it will be down to 95% with no usage.
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I used to have a higher drain, but after some research, I found out using betterbatterystats that google maps was waking up the phone often and preventing sleep. I corrected this by disabling "report from this device" in google maps settings.
Before this, I experienced similar battery drain with power saver on.
From experience, it's best to determine phone sleep time and app battery usage, and correct this to achieve the best life.
I'm currently able to get two days with light usage without power saver!
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Sorry still to early to tell really, it's learning period ended yesterday so it'll take time for GSam to find the new average usage. But again it SEEMS to have improved drain during use. I'm really not sure what the drain last night was but if it happens again tonight the app is gone...
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I changed my mind, I'm consistently losing 40% per night after Battery Guru activated. I can't confirm that this app is the problem, but it's never happened before and I haven't changed anything but adding the app. Maybe just me experience though.
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I've uninstalled BatteryGuru for the same reason
I'm relatively certain that for many people this is super old news, but I'd like to share this anyway just in case it helps anyone (and a bit because I'm just so impressed by how it works )
I've tried a few different power saving strategies on this phone and have been disappointed with all, including just keeping power saver on all the time. I would always lose 20-40% overnight no matter what I did. I should also clarify that it is not acceptable for me to just disable a bunch of things to get that drain under control. So one day I turned on power saver (everything checked off) and just turned off wifi, and I've been doing it ever since because now I only lose 5-10% over night maybe a strange thing to be excited about considering my other devices lose as little as 1% in that time with nothing turned off, but everything's relative.
I think now I'll try keeping wifi off and power saver on throughout the day and see what I get. Though I'm not sure I like the thought of data being turned off during the day when the screen isn't on...
For me at least this is the single best battery saving thing I've ever done on my One.
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What you mean by saying that you "turned on power saver (everything checked off)"? What Power Saver does if everything is checked off? I suppose like that it actually doing nothing. If you uncheck everything and turn it on isn't the same as turning Power Saver off?
I have noticed significant battery drain lately. When I first started using the Moto X I was getting 24-30 hours easily with moderate use. Generally I will only have 1-2 hours of screen time. Now with the same usage I am only getting 12-15. I have noticed that Android Kernal is the main offender, but don't know what that is.
Not Rooted
Screen brightness 50%-60%
Notifications turned off on all apps
Don't even have that many apps that I use
No gaming
I have attached screen shots from Gsam:
Battery Monitor
Screen Detail
App Sucker
kernal
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Take a look at your wakelocks, time held awake, and times waking device. Also, are you in a weak signal area? Where I work I get crap reception, and my battery life sucks along with it.
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Hey guys,
I have been playing with quite a lot of miui 12 settings to some how decrease battery drain and come up with these settings.
1)settings/privacy l/usage and diagnostic
When i turned this off my battery drain spiked on average i am loosing 8-10% daily overnight is it correct?
2) settings/password and security/privacy
Here you will find two more setting user experience program and send usage diagnostic data.
My question is that about these two setting will turning off increase battery drain.
Also if you guys have any more tips do share it
Thanks for reading it