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What is the sleekest rom that is farely fast in quadrant yet the battery life (combined with a modem and kernel) is dependable for light to medium use? Im currently on pheonix ultimate. Not only is it fairly slow but the battery life is not the best even when screen is off and wiring and data are off.
Sorry if it has been asked before. I prefer a gingerbread based captivate rom but anything 2.2 or over is suffice. Maybe explain too what a good modem and kernel are that don't necessarily oc or uv but can...that don't drain battery!
Much Appreciated,
Your Noob.
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Haha... Wait for it...
Not sure what the answer to your question is, but this hardly belongs in the Dev section. Q&A would probably be best. I have already sent request for this to be moved. Oh well... hope you get an answer after it's in the right section.
RJ287 said:
What is the sleekest rom that is farely fast in quadrant yet the battery life (combined with a modem and kernel) is dependable for light to medium use? Im currently on pheonix ultimate. Not only is it fairly slow but the battery life is not the best even when screen is off and wiring and data are off.
Sorry if it has been asked before. I prefer a gingerbread based captivate rom but anything 2.2 or over is suffice. Maybe explain too what a good modem and kernel are that don't necessarily oc or uv but can...that don't drain battery!
Much Appreciated,
Your Noob.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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Quadrant means nothing. Dude
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It's hard to say which ROM is the *best*, you just have to give them all a shot and see which works best for yourself. Battery wise, doesn't only depend on the ROM itself but also if your battery is old, you might consider changing it.
I don't think quadrant matter either, just numbers, as long as the phone is smooth when I use it, it's fine with me.
Quadrant doesn't mean a thing, but I have found that kh3 roms have the best battery life.
Currently Pinnacle 1.2 and have never been happier
fusion v is fenomenal. fasty is great too, if you can deal with the obtrusive theme and animations
Why don't you just try flashing some roms and see what best suits you instead of asking a community to publicity place a value judgement on other developers hard work?
And for your edification, this is the type of question for.... you guessed it.... q&a, not development.
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No rom is the best. But my experience Native roms tend to run smoother for longer periods of time, and 2.3.4 KH3 roms have the best battery life. Dont ask for "best" because there is no best you gain some things and loose other. So try them out.
Hi all
I've unlocked the bootloader on mine through the htcdev site and am currently running Niks latest rom.
However after flashing Nik's latest rom, I'm finding that my battery life has been horrible (i very much doubt its the rom, lots of people have commented on great battery life with his). Can just scrape through a full day's use of texting, some web browsing and music playing. After some browsing on the phone, it goes down from 100% to 90% in about 10mins I've tried increasing my battery life by following the method found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701567 but it still hasn't worked for me.
After reading the forums, I've heard that unity's kernel supposedly brings better battery life and am considering flashing it. However I'm not sure if i can flash it given that I haven't rooted my phone or done an s-off?? Can someone please give me an answer on that?
Also, is there anything else I can do to increase my battery life?? It's so annoying having to impose restrictions on myself to increase battery life when my friend's S2 drops to 98% after some browsing and 3 hours of standby...
Thanks so much guys
sometimes, a custom roms make your baterai drain fast.
why? so many tweaks and overclock at cpu.
so, you have other options to change your custom rom.
example, ARHD 2.1.3 make your baterai not drain fast.
If you don't have full s-off, then you are restricted to whatever kernel comes with your ROM. I'd recommend you look into SetCPU if you haven't already, which will improve battery life by regulating how your processor is used. Juice defender is an app worth looking into as well. Have you tried flashing an earlier version of the ROM? Sometimes you can get a build where the kernel just doesn't work well. You might find your battery life improve with an older version, with a different version of the kernel. You have nothing to lose by trying I guess.
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If you don't have full s-off, then you are restricted to whatever kernel comes with your ROM. I'd recommend you look into SetCPU if you haven't already, which will improve battery life by regulating how your processor is used. Juice defender is an app worth looking into as well. Have you tried flashing an earlier version of the ROM? Sometimes you can get a build where the kernel just doesn't work well. You might find your battery life improve with an older version, with a different version of the kernel. You have nothing to lose by trying I guess.
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As man, not the answer I was hoping for. Thanks for the info, ill give that a try and see if battery life improves. If not might go the whole stretch and get an s-off
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crunchyHTC said:
As man, not the answer I was hoping for. Thanks for the info, ill give that a try and see if battery life improves. If not might go the whole stretch and get an s-off
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Believe me, it's worth it in the long run. Good luck!
ok folks !!
time to share your opinions, suggestions and experience !
which is the better kernel for battery life and performance !
battery life is of prime importance to me !
thanks...
This is obviously subjective. The standard XDA response is "try them out and stick with what you like.
My personal preference, however, is Faux123's dual-core kernel.
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This is obviously subjective. The standard XDA response is "try them out and stick with what you like.
My personal preference, however, is Faux123's dual-core kernel.
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same here
I'm using Faux's kernal right now and it's running nicely. Tried out kozmikkernal and it was great too. Hard to tell the difference with the usage i do. Kinda curious about the technical differences and what those differences should do in theory. I know kozmikkernal and BCs kernal both have sweep to wake which can be a nice feature if you don't like using your power button
I use my phone like a teenager... Not to text... But.... With faux123's kernel... I get like 5 hours of screen time... And when I let my son play games on my phone... He plays constantly and gets like 4 hours screen time...
If I use my phone like a normal person... I can hit 16 hours
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I use kozzmik kernel it runs great on my phone
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how is holics kernel with respect to battery life ?
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how is holics kernel with respect to battery life ?
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holic kernel also doing Good buddy , it' based on Faux kernel. still not getting any different between two ,
at this time, i choose Holic, becoz of this "
This Kernel is focused on stability, more Performance and best battery life.
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even i am using holics kernel coz of this !
This Kernel is focused on stability, more Performance and best battery life.
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I rooted my Vivid (AT&T) a long while back, flashed a custom kernel (Faux 007) and tweaked it a fair bit for a cleaner look and better battery life. It helped. Some.
I have work apps installed that are a pain to get authorized and reinstalled, so I'd rather not go through the trouble again if I don't have to. However, I would like to get better battery life out of my phone if I could.
So, anyone have any experience on battery life of root vs ROM? Any particular ROMs/kernels for fantastic battery life? I'm not using sense widgets so doesn't matter if it's sense or stock UI.
TIA
WCX ROM FTW google wcx illuminati and register on his forum. you need 10 posts to download tho
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WCX ROM FTW google wcx illuminati and register on his forum. you need 10 posts to download tho
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Not to get off topic here, but is WCX a sense based ROM?
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Personally, the Holics ROM 1.3 with Holics 0730 kernel has worked great for me.
SetCPU to control CPU frequency: Max 1.5GHZ, min 350MHZ.
I used the Intellidemand governor, and noop scheduler.
I do NOT use task killers.
I use Lux Auto Brightness to control my screen brightness (highly recommend it!).
I use the APN Switch widget to turn my APN off when not in use (basically always unless I'm sending/receiving an MMS)
I close my apps when I'm done with them.
There is also an app called Llama that you can use to control all kinds of things, like turning wifi on and off based on the time of day and/or your location, etc. It's pretty cool, but I don't use it presently. Here are two examples of my battery life, with moderate usage.
Then ya'll will hate this one. I'm running wahjee's 1.6 de-sensed ROM with everything on. Live wallpapers, notifications, widgets galore and a lot of use...
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envygreen said:
I rooted my Vivid (AT&T) a long while back, flashed a custom kernel (Faux 007) and tweaked it a fair bit for a cleaner look and better battery life. It helped. Some.
I have work apps installed that are a pain to get authorized and reinstalled, so I'd rather not go through the trouble again if I don't have to. However, I would like to get better battery life out of my phone if I could.
So, anyone have any experience on battery life of root vs ROM? Any particular ROMs/kernels for fantastic battery life? I'm not using sense widgets so doesn't matter if it's sense or stock UI.
TIA
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with rom and battery life it is easier to try the different ones for yourself to see which gives you better life, each device and person will have different experiences. I had good experiences with all of them but what worked good for me may not for you.
ronnie498 said:
with rom and battery life it is easier to try the different ones for yourself to see which gives you better life, each device and person will have different experiences. I had good experiences with all of them but what worked good for me may not for you.
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Agreed. I think more than anything it comes down to two things: your screen-on time, and your cell-searching time. If you are in a low-signal area a lot (like the woods or a basement, or worse - a basement in the woods (!!!)) you can expect to get poor battery life on just about anything. Also, if you're playing angry birds every waking moment, you're going to bleed your batter dry. Simple as that.
If you live in a good signal area, and have screen brightness as low as possible, you're already in a good spot. Any tweaks you can do might help, but probably not by 12+ hours.
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Agreed. I think more than anything it comes down to two things: your screen-on time, and your cell-searching time. If you are in a low-signal area a lot (like the woods or a basement, or worse - a basement in the woods (!!!)) you can expect to get poor battery life on just about anything. Also, if you're playing angry birds every waking moment, you're going to bleed your batter dry. Simple as that.
If you live in a good signal area, and have screen brightness as low as possible, you're already in a good spot. Any tweaks you can do might help, but probably not by 12+ hours.
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You know, that's probably my number one issue, I just hadn't thought about it that way. On weekends, I easily last the whole day and have 40% or more left. At work, it's dying fast and often unless I plug it in while I'm at my desk. I'm away from windows and 11 floors up, so the signal is pretty poor.
In normal situations, the battery life does seem improved with the kernel I am using and the rooted/cleaned up bloat. But since I spend most of my time sitting in this chair with almost no signal, I notice that the most.
And as for trying out other ROMS, well we'll see when my contract is up and I pick up another phone so I can tinker to my hearts content while keeping a pristine phone for work. I just don't have the leeway to bork my phone right now.
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I rooted my Vivid (AT&T) a long while back, flashed a custom kernel (Faux 007) and tweaked it a fair bit for a cleaner look and better battery life. It helped. Some.
I have work apps installed that are a pain to get authorized and reinstalled, so I'd rather not go through the trouble again if I don't have to. However, I would like to get better battery life out of my phone if I could.
So, anyone have any experience on battery life of root vs ROM? Any particular ROMs/kernels for fantastic battery life? I'm not using sense widgets so doesn't matter if it's sense or stock UI.
TIA
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When you were using faux's kernel did u remember to rename "mpdecision" and "thermald" to "mpdecison_dis" and "thermald_dis"? Cause that would also be why you didnt really see a bigger difference in performance with his kernel.
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Then ya'll will hate this one. I'm running wahjee's 1.6 de-sensed ROM with everything on. Live wallpapers, notifications, widgets galore and a lot of use...
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PACman ROM. this thread is sorta old, but yeah
Hello World! What's your current ROM and kernel you're running on, and what do you normally get for screen on time? I'd like to get some suggestions.. Would like to get through a whole day comfortably
It doesn't really matter how much screen on time someone else gets, it doesn't mean you'll ever achieve that same amount. Screen uses a pretty constant amount of power per brightness setting, but the other things that use power will take away from that and not all those things are to do with CPU usage, which is the only thing a ROM/Kernel can affect.
On top of which:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
rootSU said:
It doesn't really matter how much screen on time someone else gets, it doesn't mean you'll ever achieve that same amount. Screen uses a pretty constant amount of power per brightness setting, but the other things that use power will take away from that and not all those things are to do with CPU usage, which is the only thing a ROM/Kernel can affect.
On top of which:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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Yup that does help... No such thing as 'best'. I didn't make the best title lol.. Currently happy with SlimLP and Franco, just wondering what you guys were getting . What are you on, as of now in terms of ROM/Kernel?
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Yup that does help... No such thing as 'best'. I didn't make the best title lol.. Currently happy with SlimLP and Franco, just wondering what you guys were getting . What are you on, as of now in terms of ROM/Kernel?
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Slim + ElemantalX
samdroid24 said:
Hello World! What's your current ROM and kernel you're running on, and what do you normally get for screen on time? I'd like to get some suggestions.. Would like to get through a whole day comfortably
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I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
ccoulterjg1 said:
I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
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That helps greatly! Yes, this question was more of a 'Which ROM/Kernel is the best for you' type of question. And yup, I do know that AMOLEDs give you those pitch black blacks, which is good for battery, since those pixels aren't being used. I myself, am a big flashaholic, tried at least 5-6 Roms and a bunch of kernels.. Best battery life so far for me seems to be Slim + Franco.. Never tried BrokenOS, will flash tonight Thx a lot for your detailed response :good:
ccoulterjg1 said:
I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
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Each phone is different but that really has nothing to do with battery life, except that maybe some CPU's can undervolt more. I'm not sure anyone has given this "bullcrap" answer you eluded to.
samdroid24 said:
That helps greatly! Yes, this question was more of a 'Which ROM/Kernel is the best for you' type of question. And yup, I do know that AMOLEDs give you those pitch black blacks, which is good for battery, since those pixels aren't being used. I myself, am a big flashaholic, tried at least 5-6 Roms and a bunch of kernels.. Best battery life so far for me seems to be Slim + Franco.. Never tried BrokenOS, will flash tonight Thx a lot for your detailed response :good:
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Check out my rom chroma. Franco kernel is preloaded. Huge update coming very soon.
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I've tried most of the roms and kernels and have always gone back to BlissPop and either Lean or Francos. BlissPop for the features and Lean/Franco for the battery life. I would consider myself a moderate to heavy user and get between 4 - 5 hours of sot, but more important to me, I start my day at 5am and shutdown around 10:30 - 11:00 pm and I generally have 35% - 40% or so left. Of course your milage may vary, I also greenify what I can, but I refuse to lose any features i use, why have a fantastic phone and cripple it. I generally don't change any of the kernels, except maybe set it to conservative, I've had issues in the past undervolting, but thats just me. For the slight battery savings I don't find it does that much. Again, my opinion.
Just take a nandroid of where you are and try some combinations. Give it a few days to settle in. Repeat until your happy with the combination.
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Check out my rom chroma. Franco kernel is preloaded. Huge update coming very soon.
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Will most definitely flash Chroma... Looks like one of the best designed ROMs.. Will flash it either tonight or tomorrow morning... And your name seems familiar from the numerous pages I've went through on Franco's Kernel lol. Thx :laugh:
how many hour is stay on the stock ROM ?
Chroma with FK and vomer are poetry in motion. Use it and prosper.
using the rom that i use, and kernel, and the way i set up my cpu, i see between 5.5 and 7 hours sot. which rom and kernel? try them all out, find your best rom/kernel.
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Chroma with FK and vomer are poetry in motion. Use it and prosper.
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Glad you're enjoying the combination
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Glad you're enjoying the combination
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Does Chroma have omniswitch? Cause that's a deal breaker
Just flashed Chroma... This ROM is buttery smooth
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I am on Terminus currently with Franco Kernel undervolted all frequencies @-50 which is 100% stable in my case. -75 crashes on games and/or benchmarks. My Snapdragon has a PVS 5 binning.
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Just flashed Chroma... This ROM is buttery smooth
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I'm glad you enjoy it. A new build was pushed out if you didn't get it, 01/24.
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Does Chroma have omniswitch? Cause that's a deal breaker
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Nope, I personally don't find the feature useful.
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Right now I'm on validus ROM with Franco kernel. I only changed the max clock in Franco kernel down to 2.2ghz. Right now I'm at almost 36 hours on time and 4 hours and 40 minutes sot
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I'm glad you enjoy it. A new build was pushed out if you didn't get it, 01/24.
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Yup, flashed the 1/24 build last night