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Different display for TV out and Screen??

I am playing with the TV-out function on my phone... I went looking all over for a tv out cable, ended up trying my old Zen Vision:M 60gb (the fat one) video out cable, worked perfectly! now i'm wondering if i could have something different display on the TV than on my screen, like doing a power point presentation, and having presenter view on my screen, and the slideshow on the TV. Playing SNES games on the tv, and having just the controller showing on the screen. watching a movie on the tv and having the play/pause slider bar, on the screen. or EVEN having a video on the tv and using my phone for other things at the same time...
tl;dr - does anyone think i can multi-screen with the TV out on my phone, or is it locked to displaying whats on the phone?

First of all: how is this a development question, are you currently researching code to solve your quest?
Second: You do remember your holding a phone not a media laptop? Is it not a bit much to ask for ...

Kindar said:
I am playing with the TV-out function on my phone... I went looking all over for a tv out cable, ended up trying my old Zen Vision:M 60gb (the fat one) video out cable, worked perfectly! now i'm wondering if i could have something different display on the TV than on my screen, like doing a power point presentation, and having presenter view on my screen, and the slideshow on the TV. Playing SNES games on the tv, and having just the controller showing on the screen. watching a movie on the tv and having the play/pause slider bar, on the screen. or EVEN having a video on the tv and using my phone for other things at the same time...
tl;dr - does anyone think i can multi-screen with the TV out on my phone, or is it locked to displaying whats on the phone?
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Doubtful because the TV-out is a complete copy of the screen.
It does not process anything itself.
Sorry to disappoint.

NOT TRUE, With some devices you can have only controls on the phone screen while watching video on TV...

sargasso said:
First of all: how is this a development question, are you currently researching code to solve your quest?
Second: You do remember your holding a phone not a media laptop? Is it not a bit much to ask for ...
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Your rude/smartass tone is unacceptable, especially for a first post. Act like that and you won't last very long around here.

This will be possible with the next generation chipset (which was announced recently). For now it can not be done.
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darkflyer1983 said:
NOT TRUE, With some devices you can have only controls on the phone screen while watching video on TV...
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Really which devices.
I am not trying to be rude. I'm asking this as a serious question.

It's possible over WiFi using DLNA compatible devices or various less universal remote control solutions. None of those have anything to do with the TV out ofcourse.
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We could see this feature in the next samsung phone or TAB. I heard that samsung is working now with nvidia for using the Tegra processor. Maybe it'll have a split tv out feature or similar with the one on computers - secondary and primary screen.
@ sargasso : It's not a dumb question lol . I'm playing quake 3 on my phone (even on network with others) and you say it's to much to ask from a phone ?!? These 1 gig phones from totay's technoloy are no simple devices anymore, they can handle allmost anythig and can do actualy a lot of thing that notebooks do. With a dual screen view feature it's not about "if" or "not posible", but when. And "when" is very soon. Remember that not long ago there were notebooks with less hardware than these phones.
Mark my words (love this line from Matrix) ! - Pretty soon we'll see not only a split tv out but a new feature in wich you swipe the picture from your phone toward the lcd tv(via wifi/dlna) just like in the James Bond movie. Anything is posible. Next year the phones will even recieve a dual core cpu.

Yeah I dug up my old tv out cable which came with my N95 and that work perfectly...
I'd prefer hdmi out though.....

Most likely available before H2 - 2011
...a native triple display controller, and on-chip HDMI 1.3a interface.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/07/samsungs-orion-is-the-1ghz-dual-core-arm-cortex-a9-weve-all-be/

Ok thanks all for the info.
Yes i may have put it in the wrong forum, i'm sorry, i wasn't sure where to put it.
It is running on linux, and it has the ability to do multiple outputs, so it was just a matter of asking if the hardware could support it.
Alexzander - i would love to see james bond style information sharing, tossing files across the room to your friend, or putting something on the tv for everyone to see just by a gesture!

Kindar said:
Alexzander - i would love to see james bond style information sharing, tossing files across the room to your friend, or putting something on the tv for everyone to see just by a gesture!
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For tossing files around, I believe there's already an app for that: Hoccer.
Haven't tried it yet, though.

Anyone ever get any info on this. I'm wondering if it's possible to turn the screen of while using tv out, for example when playing a movie. I don't want to shorten my screens life.
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Now I found proof of this concept. That is definately something different on both screens. Now we need a way to control this ourselves.
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Nook Color Mounted In Car

So I saw on reddit a nice clean looking install of an Asus tab in a BMW 335i and thought "I'll do the cheaper version all around". I went for the nook color installed in my 325i. Same method, so really the credit belongs to X-ception for his original concept. Nice work buddy.
I took it one step further and this cheap little tablet can be mounted either horizontally OR vertically and still be fine while riding. The downside of this is it most likely wiggles more than the transformer due to how I mounted it to allow either orientation. Also the transformer has some more weight to it.
Right now the audio is only connected via AUX cable, but I will be going the bluetooth route as well once I can manage to save $50 or so. For now it is a fun proof of concept and it can handle whatever kind of driving I've thrown at it. Again minimal wiggling and this is my first test with the nook in the car. For the minimal work required I'm certainly very happy with it.
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Could you shrink your images a little? They're kind of massive even at 1680x1050 and I have to scroll 50% of each sideways
Thanks for fixing the images. What are you using to mount the nook?

I wanna see some pictures.
I was thinking about installing a Galaxy Tab in my 525i for a while now.
Nevermind, there are pictures now aha.
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Damn you guys are fast. In the time it took to fix the pics I already had 2 complaints about them haha.
You get the mount here: http://www.proclipusa.com/ Just buy the mount NOT the device holder (they don't have one for the nook color).
Then you buy the "pad tab" mounting system here. http://www.thepadtab.com/
The cool part is I now have one extra pad tab mount (comes with 2) so I can mount my nook somewhere else as well like my wall or something. I'm trying to think of something more creative though.

I know you can't tell from the pic, but its a 6 speed standard transmission and the nook being in the car in NO way interferes with my driving or it would have been pulled out immediately.

Very nice install and use of the PadTab. We love this stuff. We saw the other install on this site and are impressed with the creativity here!
PadTab

as an e90 owner myself I completely approve! Awesome work.

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Very nice install and use of the PadTab. We love this stuff. We saw the other install on this site and are impressed with the creativity here!
PadTab
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Nice....
http://www.thepadtab.com/component/content/article/90

That is really cool. Going to try it on my Murano
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This is pretty awesome looking.

I love my pad tab. I love that it comes with 2 tabs. I have it in my car and when I get inside I put it on my wall hanging above my laptop. Now I have a stylish and cool charging location as well as a car mount

Would never work in Minnesota...blocks the AC in our hot/humid summers and the heat in are freezing arctic winters.

ExploreMN said:
Would never work in Minnesota...blocks the AC in our hot/humid summers and the heat in are freezing arctic winters.
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Really only blocking 1 of 4 vents. I'm in massachusetts. I feel your pain.
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mutant13 said:
Nice....
http://www.thepadtab.com/component/content/article/90
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Awesome! I'm the next internet sensation

Nook in MA cars
darkrom said:
Really only blocking 1 of 4 vents. I'm in massachusetts. I feel your pain.
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Only issue in Massachusetts would be if the Nook were blocking the wiper switch.

guisar said:
Only issue in Massachusetts would be if the Nook were blocking the wiper switch.
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That's what rain-x is for

Nice work!!
I'm trying to figure out how to position/mount the nook in my Jeep without getting in the way of anything else, and without blocking the windshield. It would also need it to be within easy reach of the driver for those days when I go 4-wheeling solo.
I think it would be very neat to use with off-road trail apps and an external GPS.
Any ideas?
Here's what my cockpit looks like:

Honestly? Give windshield mounting a try. I do it in my Tacoma, and unless i move to look at it, the nook does not block my view at all, nor has it caused legal issues (i know it has been seen by officers). Having it mounted right above the center console makes it really easy to use as well, all by my self.

paleh0rse said:
Nice work!!
I'm trying to figure out how to position/mount the nook in my Jeep without getting in the way of anything else, and without blocking the windshield. It would also need it to be within easy reach of the driver for those days when I go 4-wheeling solo.
I think it would be very neat to use with off-road trail apps and an external GPS.
Any ideas?
Here's what my cockpit looks like:
Maybe Try and mount it to the left of the wheel , other then that i would cover your radio with the exception of the volume since you can use the nook as a music device
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Home theater question.

Hello my fellow XDAers!
I have a blueray player that has an ethernet port. My question is besides using a hardwire. What is the simplest way to connect it to my wireless router?
I thought of several, like a ehternet bridge to my laptop, a wireless ehernet bridge, and the adapter that runs internet threw the powerwires.
Which way is the easiest, lasting and permenent solution (besides hardwire).?
Thanks!
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Droidmoder said:
Hello my fellow XDAers!
I have a blueray player that has an ethernet port. My question is besides using a hardwire. What is the simplest way to connect it to my wireless router?
I thought of several, like a ehternet bridge to my laptop, a wireless ehernet bridge, and the adapter that runs internet threw the powerwires.
Which way is the easiest, lasting and permenent solution (besides hardwire).?
Thanks!
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They're all usable and good solutions, but I'd personally go for going through power lines. I don't have it myself but plan to get it very soon. A friend has it and he strongly recommends it. He gets speeds round his whole house that wifi simply could not compete with.

Archer said:
They're all usable and good solutions, but I'd personally go for going through power lines. I don't have it myself but plan to get it very soon. A friend has it and he strongly recommends it. He gets speeds round his whole house that wifi simply could not compete with.
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Elaborate as I'm interested also

M_T_M said:
Elaborate as I'm interested also
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Its like an extension box
You plug it into a socket, and it converts the socket to a socket + Ethernet port
So for e.g.
You plug in one where you place your router, and connect it by a cable
Next, near your TV/DVD player, you connect another, and then connect the cable
And then just you need to do so more setup, cant remember now, a bit sleepy, will post tomorrow
From my fingers to your eyez

It sounds like lies, but it's true!
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/power-network.htm
My mate picked up 2 for a fiver in a charity shop, so he has one in a socket near his router and then can move the other one round the house as required.
I've been advised that there are 2 different types - 85Mbps and 200Mbps. As long as you get the same type then you can mix and match makes, but he got a real bargain. The cheapest I can find on ebay is £32 for 2 200Mbps ones. If you're not too fussed about the bandwidth then you can get them cheaper.

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You crazy kids and your internetz....

Archer said:
It sounds like lies, but it's true!
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You can also hook up a video system thru power lines, works flawlessly.
http://www.wilife.com/About/AtHome.aspx

are these solutions working ok? cause iv heard that they are barely usable and provide unstable connections

dexter93 said:
are these solutions working ok? cause iv heard that they are barely usable and provide unstable connections
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Which part of "It's true" & "Works flawlessly" did you not understand ??

I would be interested to know how far the signal travels before it degrades too much to be readable, for example how many people on your street will be receiving the data also??

m0sul said:
I would be interested to know how far the signal travels before it degrades too much to be readable, for example how many people on your street will be receiving the data also??
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The range is supposed to degrade anything over 300m, so that's quite a lot. Yes, obviously security would be an issue if the communication wasn't encrypted, but it is. You can set the encryption keys yourself, so it's down to you if it's not secure.

Thanks, ill get the powerline solution. Ive researched all and this one seems like the best choice, thanks for the feedback it did help me make a decison.
Its not fake btw, netgear and linksys both sell these kits for around $80-100 us.
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Droidmoder said:
Its not fake btw
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That's right, the technology to intelligently modulate a signal over existing power lines has been around since the 1960's (if not longer).

Nexus 7 Specs are live on Asus website (9.5 hrs battery life shown)

The specification page for the Nexus 7 is live on the Asus website now.
Can't link to it since I am new...sorry

Link to said page - http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Nexus/Nexus_7/

Interestingly on that Asus page it shows the nexus 7 running in Tablet UI mode:
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I'm thinking it could either be a bad photoshop from some other device or it could show that at some stage this thing was intended to run in full tablet mode rather than in some hybrid mode. Probably just a photoshop job though because the rest show it running the hybrid UI.

hyperdude111 said:
Interestingly on that Asus page it shows the nexus 7 running in Tablet UI mode:
I'm thinking it could either be a bad photoshop from some other device or it could show that at some stage this thing was intended to run in full tablet mode rather than in some hybrid mode. Probably just a photoshop job though because the rest show it running the hybrid UI.
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Its showing the Tegrazone in "Tablet UI" mode...not the launcher.

raycpe said:
The specification page for the Nexus 7 is live on the Asus website now.
Can't link to it since I am new...sorry
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From the ASUS site:
"World’s first 7” quad-core tablet delivers an advanced multimedia experience with up to 9.5* hours of battery life".
*"Battery life may vary by use. Stated battery life measured by playing 720p video at 100 nits brightness, with an external microphone, Wi-Fi turned on, Gmail logged in".

Weird part about that note is the external microphone.
Would never have considered running with an external mike,
and that should have no effect on battery life anyway.

rmm200 said:
Weird part about that note is the external microphone.
Would never have considered running with an external mike,
and that should have no effect on battery life anyway.
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the mic needs power from somewhere?

dreggs said:
Its showing the Tegrazone in "Tablet UI" mode...not the launcher.
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No, look at the panel at the bottom. It's using the tablet panel and not the "3 button" phone panel. Indicates tablet launcher.
The nexus 7 panel only shows 3 buttons (back, home, multi-task) even when running apps in tablet mode.
Furthermore in this picture there is no notification bar at the top, it is contained in the panel at the bottom like in the tablet UI.

hyperdude111 said:
Interestingly on that Asus page it shows the nexus 7 running in Tablet UI mode:
I'm thinking it could either be a bad photoshop from some other device or it could show that at some stage this thing was intended to run in full tablet mode rather than in some hybrid mode. Probably just a photoshop job though because the rest show it running the hybrid UI.
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I seriously opened this thread and got major deja vu:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28401644&highlight=tablet+ui#post28401644
I swear I looked at the dates of the posts and thought I had gone crazy or something.

I really think they meant external speakers and not microphone. Proof checking is a dying art since spellcheck came along.

Well the original intention was to discuss the newly posted specs and battery life, not UI.

MaxCarnage said:
I seriously opened this thread and got major deja vu:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28401644&highlight=tablet+ui#post28401644
I swear I looked at the dates of the posts and thought I had gone crazy or something.
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Now that is strange! You know what they say about great minds.

That spec sheet talks about taking panoramic pictures ? Am I missing something here? Didn't Paul from Modaco have to hack it to get the camera app to show up?
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You can look at the battery indicator(s) and see that this Nexus 7 is currently being charged by an external battery located in a keyboard. It's a screengrab from a Transformer most likely.

apascual89 said:
That spec sheet talks about taking panoramic pictures ? Am I missing something here? Didn't Paul from Modaco have to hack it to get the camera app to show up?
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Yeah, those are just generic android specs and they forgot to remove that one. And I doubt the FFC can support 720P anyway.

apascual89 said:
That spec sheet talks about taking panoramic pictures ? Am I missing something here? Didn't Paul from Modaco have to hack it to get the camera app to show up?
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I noticed that... I think they have used a generic graphic for the features of Jelly Bean and forgot to remove the reference to the camera.
At least that is my best guess.

rmm200 said:
I really think they meant external speakers and not microphone. Proof checking is a dying art since spellcheck came along.
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I also think they meant external speakers.
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Ars got 9h15m playing transformers at 100% brightness and volume with over 11h at 50%.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012...-googles-nexus-7-is-a-fantastic-200-tablet/4/
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I hope it doesn't get tablet UI in the future, I like it the way it is.
That's some pretty impressive time, really great for longer trips, I wonder how much more it would get if you used headphones.
10 finger multi-touch is pretty nice too.

*PCB color and bundled software versions are subject to change without notice.
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PCB color...right.

Large capacity MP3 player >150GB

My 160GB Ipod Classic has finally died T_T The battery's not holding a charge at all, I'm thinking of getting it repaired but I'm worried something else'll fail shortly as it's had heavy use. I've been researching alternatives but all the threads etc I could find are a few years old, so what's the situation these days, are there any decent/inexpensive MP3 players with at least 150GB of storage out there? Any sort of mini hard drives with screens or anything? Or is the ipod classic still my best bet? Cheers

Hey I just bought one wid 360gb storage
U wanna buy it
Send a letter on my home address
Coz I don't rply to pm's n email's
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alkesh95 said:
Hey I just bought one wid 360gb storage
U wanna buy it
Send a letter on my home address
Coz I don't rply to pm's n email's
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sorry mate i don't really understand what you're saying - 360GB sounds perfect though, what's the make/model?

alkesh95 said:
Hey I just bought one wid 360gb storage
U wanna buy it
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Coz I don't rply to pm's n email's
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Obvious troll is obvious.

If you don't care about bulk archos has some massive pmps. I have a 4.8 in 250 gb but I can't use it for anything other than in my car just because its so large.

Cheers, good shout - what do you think of the Archos 48?

It's alright. Nothing special (and the resistive screen sucks after being spoiled by capacitive screens), charging (through a proprietary cable) is slow and the GUI sucks, but you can't beat the price for the capacity (I got my 250gb for like 170 a year ago).
I should add that the battery is fairly long lasting from a full charge and that in order to play movies and certain file formats (you'll be fine with mp3s) you have to buy format packs (which I find to be an obnoxious and money hungry practice that Archos should be ashamed of).

063_XOBX said:
It's alright. Nothing special (and the resistive screen sucks after being spoiled by capacitive screens), charging (through a proprietary cable) is slow and the GUI sucks, but you can't beat the price for the capacity (I got my 250gb for like 170 a year ago).
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Yeah 500GB for £100, seriously tempted - £26 (independent site) to repair my 160GB iPod but like I said, something else could just fail as it has received heavy use. Had a look and it doesn't look like there are any ROMs for the 48, would be nice to pump it at least up to froyo... from the dimensions the 48 doesn't look too bulky, still pocketable?

Pocketable-maybe, but the weight is a pretty big factor. Not to mention that it's almost an inch thick (doesn't sound that bad until you have it right in front of you. I can post pictures for comparison to my Xoom or Nexus S if you're familiar with either.

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Pocketable-maybe, but the weight is a pretty big factor. Not to mention that it's almost an inch thick (doesn't sound that bad until you have it right in front of you. I can post pictures for comparison to my Xoom or Nexus S if you're familiar with either.
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I'm not 100% but I can guess what the nexus is like - pictures would be appreciated buddy!

Alright, I had to take the pictures with my Xoom so the size is a bit wonky but here you go.
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Cheers, don't seem to be loading though?
*EDIT* Also is there a model (that's similar in price/storage space) that you'd recommend over the 48?

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Cheers, don't seem to be loading though?
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If you're on mobile it might take a while (they're in UXGA resolution).

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If you're on mobile it might take a while (they're in UXGA resolution).
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Nah on a PC - tried chrome and IE

Let me try linking you to the images directly
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Let me try linking you to the images directly
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Cheers, I see what you mean about the thickness... doesn't look much thicker than my classic though thinking about it? Guess the speaker on it's crap.
Has anyone come across any custom ROMs for the 48?