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Frustrated devs, re: Polluted dev forums

I don't mean to be an ass here, but I, for one, would be happy to post all my questions in the Q&A section...but looking over there at the numerous questions on just the first page there are probably less than 100 replies, cummulatively, for all those questions. I've posted over there a couple of times and never got an answer from a Dev (the ones that could answer).
So, would you wiz dev and pro scripters please go over there every once and while and answer some questions, please! It would certainly help keep your forum more clean, which I agree, is out of control.

If you ask in the dev's original thread, you often do get an answer and keep from poluting the dev forums.

I'm just going to say it. This belongs in Q & A.
Most of the questions people ask are thread specific. If they would just read the thread that pertains to the question chances are it will be discussed in that thread. Now if it is a question that has not been talked about in their dev thread ask the question and they will respond. These guys have lives and are not solely on XDA 24/7

flashman2002 said:
I'm just going to say it. This belongs in Q & A.
Most of the questions people ask are thread specific. If they would just read the thread that pertains to the question chances are it will be discussed in that thread. Now if it is a question that has not been talked about in their dev thread ask the question and they will respond. These guys have lives and are not solely on XDA 24/7
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flashman2002 said:
I'm just going to say it. This belongs in Q & A.
Most of the questions people ask are thread specific. If they would just read the thread that pertains to the question chances are it will be discussed in that thread. Now if it is a question that has not been talked about in their dev thread ask the question and they will respond. These guys have lives and are not solely on XDA 24/7
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The "Search this thread" option above the thread actually works pretty well. For those of us who can't read 300+ pages of threads looking for an answer.

boomerod said:
So, would you wiz dev and pro scripters please go over there every once and while and answer some questions, please! It would certainly help keep your forum more clean, which I agree, is out of control.
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I agree, that's why some members keep asking on DEV section. No buddy you're not being an ass I understand your frustration.

As someone else stated, if you have a question about a specific thread in the dev forum, then ask it in that thread. Also try the "Search This Thread" option to see if your question has already been asked/answered.
I know some of those threads grow like crazy, but that's where those questions belong.
The devs do this work on their own free time and only get some donations from members. Most of the time I think they mainly monitor their thread or try to help out in other dev threads.
If someone in the community knows the answer and checks that section, then I'm sure they'll point you in the right direction too.
As a mod, I'm trying to keep the dev forum a little cleaner by moving stuff out of there...and IMO, having a General forum and a Q&A forum is a little redundant because lots of stuff in the general forum turns into questions.

[Q] New member 10 posts?

How do I get rid of this 10 posts rule? I need to ask questions in the development forum. I develop and test roms for the last year, not sure why I need 10 posts in general forums in order to post there.

it is forum rules
dont want fresher‘s rubbish posts here

That's the rule, and we're bound to follow. ^.~

We all are
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There are no questions to ask in dev section. Its dev only. Not end user.
Then again i9000 dev section is full of end users spamming the board and not reading anything.
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Tewlman252 said:
We all are
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took me almost a month to reach 10-posts..suppose its a good thing..but a bit frustrating

just working on that myself... I wanna ask some question in the develepoment forum

Blackherted said:
just working on that myself... I wanna ask some question in the develepoment forum
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Me too!

I want to thank a developper for his wonderfull Rom .....but till i have not reached 10 posts...... i can't.....

Yes... i want ask in dev forum but...

I report bugs and discuss via private message with some devs.

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johnypintas said:
[I must agree its not easy to reach 10 posts :/
I´ve wanted to post bug reports, send private messages, help out in general, but dev section is still locked for me...
anyways, thanks to our devs, i now have an up-to-date device (I9001) Thanks to them
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The very fact that you are making this post and posts here , means you are NOT restricted to make any useful posts on any forum but the development forum.
why?
Because its suppose to be spam free and Q&A threads are kept out of that forum to ensure ONLY development matters are discussed by Developers and members who have understood the rules and guidelines on how to use XDA site. New members need to understand this and respect them.
what do they need to understand?
This site was created by Developers for Developers
watch
what this videos conveys repeatedly are that there are dedicated forums and you need to LEARN to use the search engine
1) Use the search , instead of asking a question, as it is and has been asked by someone else and already answered so do not spam
2) Read, research and learn by looking in the right direction, so do not spam.
3) When reading the threads, you may come across, some interesting things and there you can make your own suggestions and or your findings, so do not spam
4) Specific Q&A threads are available for most phones, where you can ask questions, seek advice from others using similar phone like yours, so do not spam.
5) How do you find these threads? use the search, a few available on each forum for specific searches, so do not Spam.
6) There are even OT threads ( off topic) meant for members to have some fun, but not meant for beginners as you should at least have made 10 posts that had increased your knowledge or increased others by giving advice.
This community wants you to learn and walk the walk that all member's had to go through, just like citizens of a country have to undergo certain criteria to be a citizen of that country.
So, there you have it, its not about you learning to spam or posting out of disgust to reach to get over 10 posts but about you learning and achieving the status of an XDA member as well as learning how to find what you want with the search engine.
Again, if you learnt to spam, you may be penalized so avoid it at all cost making ten useful posts will only take a short time for anyone wishing to learn as well as teach or correct others. Try involving in a discussion thread, it will be over within hours
Finally you don't need to ask a question in the developers forum, there are Device specific forums, which you should and can use. Click the WIKI button on top of any forum and you can locate your Device WIKI page or your can use the general forum for such questions, either you will get an answer by a Member or the Moderator will move your post to the Device specific forum. So you must subscribe to your post, such that you will know where it has been moved to.
let me give you an idea
general forums A, or B
Q & A Forums A, or B,
Now if you look at Q&A, forums there are sticky threads in that forum for practically any question or phone by noobs where members are asking you to post , so that they can help you.
Mind you, above are only for people who cannot locate their phone model via the search . So when there is a specific forum for your device, there is also a Q&A thread in that forum for that device.
So you see clearly @Aeneas is spamming this thread, and someone will report him , and his count will be ZERO posts because of spamming instead of learning.
Just for the record, I have made over 2000 posts and I can tell you ONLY less than FIVE of them in Development Forums as a member in all this duration.
Hope this helps you understand
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How do I POST replies in DEVELOPMENT Forums?

I have an Atrix 4G and a fair bit of knowledge on it. These forums are really good, but it would be useful if I could reply to threads in the atrix development. I have answers and questions, but I don't know if I need to be approved or something like that in order to post in the forums.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069298

atrix4g18 said:
I have an Atrix 4G and a fair bit of knowledge on it. These forums are really good, but it would be useful if I could reply to threads in the atrix development. I have answers and questions, but I don't know if I need to be approved or something like that in order to post in the forums.
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Since you are past 10 posts now you should be able to post there. If it still doesn't work in a few hours, then you might ping one of the mods in that forum to take a look at your account and see if there is some issue there.

You need 10 posts to post in development forums, which you can find out more about by looking at the links in my signature.
The server only updates permissions periodically so yours may not have been changed yet, but you have the required post count.
I've had a look at your posts and you're not a typical "10 post spammer" that we see a lot of in here, which is greatly appreciated, but it's still worth a reminder about the following things.
Don't create threads in Development forums unless it's to release software. Questions go in either a relevant existing thread, or a new one in the Q&A forum (or General forum if there's no device-specific Q&A forum). And on that note, always search thoroughly before asking. Nothing irritates other members more than seeing the same questions asked over and again.
Anyway, just bare the above in mind and go enjoy the forums. I'm just glad I don't have to delete a bunch of pointless posts

Archer said:
You need 10 posts to post in development forums, which you can find out more about by looking at the links in my signature.
The server only updates permissions periodically so yours may not have been changed yet, but you have the required post count.
I've had a look at your posts and you're not a typical "10 post spammer" that we see a lot of in here, which is greatly appreciated, but it's still worth a reminder about the following things.
Don't create threads in Development forums unless it's to release software. Questions go in either a relevant existing thread, or a new one in the Q&A forum (or General forum if there's no device-specific Q&A forum). And on that note, always search thoroughly before asking. Nothing irritates other members more than seeing the same questions asked over and again.
Anyway, just bare the above in mind and go enjoy the forums. I'm just glad I don't have to delete a bunch of pointless posts
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Yeah man I just want to contribute. Do I need a "thanks" or something like that ?
Also can an admin "approve me" or something like that? My only other question is the five minute between post wait can that be removed? For example I'm just waiting now to send this reply, it's no big deal, just wondering.
Also I posted a thread here asking basically the same question, I don't know how to delete it, but here's a link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783730

atrix4g18 said:
Yeah man I just want to contribute. Do I need a "thanks" or something like that ?
Also can an admin "approve me" or something like that? My only other question is the five minute between post wait can that be removed? For example I'm just waiting now to send this reply, it's no big deal, just wondering.
Also I posted a thread here asking basically the same question, I don't know how to delete it, but here's a link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783730
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Nope, its not reflected by Thanks Meter. Just 10 posts is decent enough. For deleting/closing that Thread, you need to contact the Forum Specific Moderator assigned to that Forum.

mf2112 said:
Since you are past 10 posts now you should be able to post there. If it still doesn't work in a few hours, then you might ping one of the mods in that forum to take a look at your account and see if there is some issue there.
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Thanks, how do I "ping a mod" ?
@coolsandie alright thanks. I guess I will just wait.

atrix4g18 said:
Thanks, how do I "ping a mod" ?
@coolsandie alright thanks. I guess I will just wait.
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At the top of each forum the mods responsible for that forum should be listed. I was suggesting to send one of them a PM, but Archer answered you here.

I got it. Thanks for the help I can post now!
@mf2112 thanks it's working fine now I can post replies !

Post in the correct section for god's sake!

I'm wondering, is it really that hard to post in the correct section? Here are some threads that should be in Q&A, but all were on the first page in General when I copied their links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994691
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990224
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994362
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978458
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993701
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989239
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986175
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990041
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987624
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989328
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989000
That is 12 out of 20 threads (the stickied ones were not included) on the first page that weren't posted where they should be.
Also, I noticed that most of these threads were started by people with none to very few posts... Connection?
I sense that this thread might get closed for some reason.
The threads that I linked to should be closed/moved, or the newbies (mostly, some senior members as well..) who haven't yet developed the ability to read will soon post every single question they have in General...
My suggestion is increasing the post requirement before you can post in General.

A. Volunteer to become a moderator and hand down infractions or use the report post button.
B. Do you think you have any sort of authority over others and or think you are perfect?
C. Do you realize that your whiny post HAS NO PLACE HERE? (As does my response)

neovdr said:
A. Volunteer to become a moderator and hand down infractions or use the report post button.
B. Do you think you have any sort of authority over others and or think you are perfect?
C. Do you realize that your whiny post HAS NO PLACE HERE? (As does my response)
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B: The OP is correct, the Q&A question exists for question, this one for general discussions. Where did he say he's perfect or above others?
C: Why not? He has a fair point. And I don't see him whining. What is your problem?
But I don't agree: Raising the post count for the General section is not a solution.
Maybe a new closed stickyied thread "This section is NOT for Questions you have, use Q&A for that" might help.
Reported my own post and suggested it to the mods.
Cheers.

tonyp said:
B: The OP is correct, the Q&A question exists for question, this one for general discussions. Where did he say he's perfect or above others?
C: Why not? He has a fair point. And I don't see him whining. What is your problem?
But I don't agree: Raising the post count for the General section is not a solution.
Maybe a new closed stickyied thread "This section is NOT for Questions you have, use Q&A for that" might help.
Reported my own post and suggested it to the mods.
Cheers.
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Because the Q&A section is a no-man's land where no dev ever ventures. Trying to push the new guys that come here to the fringes is not the solution.

neovdr said:
Because the Q&A section is a no-man's land where no dev ever ventures. Trying to push the new guys that come here to the fringes is not the solution.
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Apart from the fact that I and a couple others in fact ARE scanning the q&a section every now and then for questions which are lacking an answer and are not covered in any of the other threads:
That's not a valid reason to post in the wrong section. Especially considering the kind of questions linked in the OP which are pretty often already covered multiple times all over xda.
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neovdr said:
Because the Q&A section is a no-man's land where no dev ever ventures. Trying to push the new guys that come here to the fringes is not the solution.
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you're wrong they answer the questions that never been asked before if your question doesn't answer so search it first before creating a new thread if you search for an hour so search for a day and if you can't find it and you search for almost a day that's the right time to post don't post anything because you only want to reach 10 post to be able to post in developers section
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grimmyrippy said:
you're wrong they answer the questions that never been asked before if your question doesn't answer so search it first before creating a new thread if you search for an hour so search for a day and if you can't find it and you search for almost a day that's the right time to post don't post anything because you only want to reach 10 post to be able to post in developers section
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The thing is when I go into the Q&A and see a bunch of old threads I am gonna think like that. I didn't talk out of my ass but went to the section and that was what compelled me to answer. The problems of this forum imo are solved with active moderation. Things like warnings, thread deletions and relocations. Until that investment is made we will be suffering this kind of problems.

The help thread!

This thread is about general help and helping others.
You ask a question or need help and we try to help out. :highfive:
Anything is welcome, let's talk.

This thread topic, and many others like it, exists in may areas of XDA, to include the Android General Section, General Section, and every device specific thread/section also.