[Q] Do you need a rooted android phone to tether to TP? - TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just checking to be sure there are no other ways.

It can be done with either iPhone or android. With the locked down phones I've seen, you must pay extra to your carrier to enable tethering. If your carrier determines you are tethering they may automatically add the charge to your bill. I don't know the technical aspects, so I can't speak to how well the different carriers detect or enforce this. Regardless, just keep in mind that even if they can't tell, you may be in violation of the Terms of Service. I'm not preaching, just trying to inform.
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This is nothing to do with the touchpad as its the phone used to tether that determines if tethering can be done.
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No, as long as your wifi radio supports AP tethering, there shouldn't be any issues.
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Tethering?

I'm running a 2.3.3 stock, rooted deodyxed(sp) nexus one and I was would wondering what apps are out there that would let me tether?
Thanks in advance.
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ummmmm the stock rom has this built-in.... I thought.
Settings>Wireless&Network>Tether&portable hotspot
Yeah stock android has tethering built into the OS. Up to 8 devices I believe, or close.
So that won't require me to pay through ATT? Could anyone elaborate?
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yes you don't need to pay the carrier i got t-mo and I use tethering all the time. It works great or download barnacle for creating a wifi hotspot, thats better.
coolanvesh said:
yes you don't need to pay the carrier i got t-mo and I use tethering all the time. It works great or download barnacle for creating a wifi hotspot, thats better.
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I think this isn't entirely true. The carriers have some control over this, and AT&T recently changed their tethering policy. That might mean you can't tether without the proper account.
The carriers can't control tethering. They can attempt to charge for it, though, using various methods of detecting you tethering.
That's what I'm thinking about; because I bought this phone from someone here and the line is still registered to a Capptivate, how could they know if I'm tethering or not?
I would have increased upload ans download usage but... other than that how could they know?
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That, to me, is a form of control, and what I meant.
I don't know if they do this, but theoretically, it could be built into the system to know when packets are the result of tethering. More likely, is that it is built into the phone software by the carrier, and so the N1 wouldn't be subject to this because the carrier doesn't have control over that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004560
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evilkorn said:
ummmmm the stock rom has this built-in.... I thought.
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galaxys said:
Settings>Wireless&Network>Tether&portable hotspot
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RogerPodacter said:
Yeah stock android has tethering built into the OS. Up to 8 devices I believe, or close.
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Jack_R1 said:
The carriers can't control tethering. They can attempt to charge for it, though, using various methods of detecting you tethering.
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I see everyone is using the term "tethering" to mean your phone sharing its internet connection via Wi-Fi? I guess the definition has changed -- to me, tethering was always using your phone as a dial-up modem, i.e., using a dial-string to connect to the internet, no? For example, using BT DUN (which is advantages, as you can keep your phone in your pocket and initiate an internet connection right from the computer, although I have yet to see an implementation of this on Android). In this case, carriers can tell. For example, with Rogers, the dial string is *99# so they can tell if you are using data over that versus using data on device via the normal APN.
Yes, I believe the most of the reference for "tethering" is changed from "legacy" reference - it's either USB or WiFi tether, and in both you don't actually use the phone as a modem to establish a connection, but use its own connectivity and share the access to it.
Jack_R1 said:
Yes, I believe the most of the reference for "tethering" is changed from "legacy" reference - it's either USB or WiFi tether, and in both you don't actually use the phone as a modem to establish a connection, but use its own connectivity and share the access to it.
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I guess I need to catch up with the times! To me what your describing was internet connection sharing, not tethering... I guess my age is starting to show!

Tethering

Ok, quick question, I know carriers have been cracking down on tethering, but is that only against using our phones as wifi hot spots? is it still ok to use the usb tethering ability? My dad wants to use my phone for internet at the cabin, but I don't want at&t to throw the tethering charge onto our monthly bill.
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No unless you have purchased tethering through AT&T I believe it is going against the terms of agreement in your contract. Someone correct me if I'm wrong that's just what I have read.

Nice bonus on AT&T

WiFi hotspot tethering now works for me. On my former AT&T-branded Galaxy S2, this feature was disabled unless I were on the higher-cost data plan, which definitely was not worth it for me. But the unlocked Nexus starts it right up.
This is great for us. For example, when we're on a car trip, my wife can use her Kindle or iPod Touch to access the Internet. Same for anyplace where we don't have a good public WiFi signal.
Be careful. They monitor what type of traffick is transmitted and can figure out that you are tethering. ATT will then automatically enroll you in a tethering plan and charge you for it. It happened to Me with a different device.
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As long as you're using another mobile device to tether you should be fine
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Vanhoud said:
As long as you're using another mobile device to tether you should be fine
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This is an accurate statement. I should have clarified - don't use a laptop but an iPod or KF should be fine.
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AndroidSlave said:
Be careful. They monitor what type of traffick is transmitted and can figure out that you are tethering. ATT will then automatically enroll you in a tethering plan and charge you for it. It happened to Me with a different device.
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While I've heard of this happening often, it's never happened to me even after a whole 6-7 hours of tethering when we didn't have the network set up yet at my new office.
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Interesting...does device type have any merit?
Any idea how this would work on the GoPhone plans? They can't really automatically enroll you in anything since it is prepaid.
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Interesting...does device type have any merit?
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yes mobile device = mobile device ie; tablet, phone, android, ios. wont get caught
Computer = computer ie; laptop, desktop. busted....
chakra said:
yes mobile device = mobile device ie; tablet, phone, android, ios. wont get caught
Computer = computer ie; laptop, desktop. busted....
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You can get your browsers to mimmick a mobile device so you can tether to a PC.
Vanhoud said:
As long as you're using another mobile device to tether you should be fine
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Are you sure? Yesterday I tethered my Nexus5 with my Nexus7.... and when I opened a chrome browser on the Nexus7, it asked me to upgrade to a tethering plan.
How can I get my Nexus5 to tether without running into this problem......... I know T-Mobile gives you 2.5gigabytes of tethering, but is there no way around this? even if the tethering is from the nexus5 to another android device?
ATT's tethering monitoring is based on APN only (called mobile broadband). Their only method of Engle enforcement is that all their branded phones lock you out of changing the apn in their stock att modified software.
If you're on phone or wap.cingular (and PTA as well in my experience) you can tether a pc all day long. Been doing it for years regularly on my unlocked S2 then my N4, and I'm currently tethered via my N5 on phone and LTE.
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compuw22c said:
ATT's tethering monitoring is based on APN only (called mobile broadband). Their only method of Engle enforcement is that all their branded phones lock you out of changing the apn in their stock att modified software.
If you're on phone or wap.cingular (and PTA as well in my experience) you can tether a pc all day long. Been doing it for years regularly on my unlocked S2 then my N4, and I'm currently tethered via my N5 on phone and LTE.
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So...I don't have to root and freeze the tethering file to tether? I can just go for it on my N5? I am taking a trip with the kids in the car and it would be nice to turn tethering on for their iPads. Leaving tonight and just got my N5 yesterday...so no time today to root.
Thanks in advance.
This has been an advantage of nexus phones since day one. The native tethering app works. Sure the carrier cab still try to block it from their end or cut you off, so don't over do it.
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I've always been able to use tethering on T-Mobile, they never said anything to me about it or blocked be.
compuw22c said:
ATT's tethering monitoring is based on APN only (called mobile broadband). Their only method of Engle enforcement is that all their branded phones lock you out of changing the apn in their stock att modified software.
If you're on phone or wap.cingular (and PTA as well in my experience) you can tether a pc all day long. Been doing it for years regularly on my unlocked S2 then my N4, and I'm currently tethered via my N5 on phone and LTE.
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I respectfully disagree.
I was always on WAP.Cingular APN and tethered with my note and got auto switched to tether plan with mild usage.
I did not try to cover by using only mobile sites...
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I have only received a notification once from ATT about tethering, never happened again and I have not been charged. I think its because my power was out and I really wanted to play battlefield so I just plugged my phone into my laptop and went at it.
mistahseller said:
I have only received a notification once from ATT about tethering, never happened again and I have not been charged. I think its because my power was out and I really wanted to play battlefield so I just plugged my phone into my laptop and went at it.
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I used to love that game. I don't game much anymore, but was there lag issues?
AndroidSlave said:
I respectfully disagree.
I was always on WAP.Cingular APN and tethered with my note and got auto switched to tether plan with mild usage.
I did not try to cover by using only mobile sites...
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This is very odd. I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I've done the same on wap.cingular AND others (but no mobile broadband even in the list on my apns) and I've browsed, bittorrented, etc all without issue from a real pc with no user agent hack. Again that was i9100 (tw and aosp), n4 and now n5. To be fair I don't think I've tethered a pc on the n5 yet but my tablets were fine. Maybe because I've got no contact they let me get away with more (doubtful) OR your Samsung ROM restored the apns to default from the Sim on you at some point and added the mobilebroadband apn to the list.
I HAVE been detected on tmo tethering because they detect via browser user agent. ATT does not require a spoofed user agent, as far as I can tell it's ONLY via that apn. So without mobilebroadband in your apn list you should be safe at least on a nexus or other non-carrier\aosp device.
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Paddington said:
Any idea how this would work on the GoPhone plans? They can't really automatically enroll you in anything since it is prepaid.
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I tether all the time with my Galaxy Express and S4. While on Jury duty I tethered for 7 hours. I never did anything to hide my tethering, just used an app that side steps the phone home thing. I'm on the GoPhone $35 plan, both my phones have been moded to use the dumb phone plans.
In any unlocked phone that feature would work.
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WiFi hotspot on 4.4.4 VZW?

Are there any options for running a WiFi hotspot on 4.4.4 VZW? I tried FoxFi and it said WiFi hotspot is blocked by the latest update. I'm currently not rooted.
Thanks!
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I believe the only way is to do it either via USB or bluetooth.
I hotspot off my moto x to my laptop with no issues and also hotspot for my tablet...without usb cable or bluetooth...i just turn on hotspot and go.
You need root to WiFi hostpot. All the methods that I am aware of requires it. Soon we should have a boot loader unlock, which will get you root and let you do this. Until then USB or patience is your answer sadly.
I don't pay the hotspot fee, so the built in hot spot doesn't work. Frustrating that they make hotspotting so difficult even though I'm allowed to do it by law (I have a data cap). Guess I'll just wait for root. Thanks!
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kdog349 said:
I don't pay the hotspot fee, so the built in hot spot doesn't work. Frustrating that they make hotspotting so difficult even though I'm allowed to do it by law (I have a data cap). Guess I'll just wait for root. Thanks!
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So you're not on the old unlimited data plan?
I thought Verizon enabled the hot spot feature on your phone automatically once you were on a tiered data plan, since it uses data from your tiered data.
You can always call them and ask.
That's the frustrating part, I switched to a 6GB plan partially because of the hotspot feature but they still block it on my phone. They gave me some whacky reason when I called them, something to do with the price tier I'm in.
I thought they weren't allowed to restrict bandwidth on the LTE spectrum as per their deal with the FCC, but I guess they found a loophole.
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kdog349 said:
That's the frustrating part, I switched to a 6GB plan partially because of the hotspot feature but they still block it on my phone. They gave me some whacky reason when I called them, something to do with the price tier I'm in.
I thought they weren't allowed to restrict bandwidth on the LTE spectrum as per their deal with the FCC, but I guess they found a loophole.
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first, i'd read your TOS to see if it's mentioned there, then i'd call back and complain and then escalate to a manager. tethering is included in the share everything plans, so if you're on some unique plan, you may be out of luck.
also:
http://lifehacker.com/5933152/the-right-to-tether-what-the-verizonfcc-settlement-means-to-you

Unlimited tethering

I am looking at getting this phone in a week and was wondering if there is away for unlimited tethering.
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Which plan are you on?
Soldier_Rocks_08 said:
I am looking at getting this phone in a week and was wondering if there is away for unlimited tethering.
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one way that i know off is getting Wifi Tether Router, i haven't use it for about 2 or 3 months but when i was using it, work like a charm .
I once saw Legere's comment about T-Mobile is cracking down hardcore tethering users with "non-usual" ways. Not sure what the penalties are but i would be really carefull if I were you.
1. Use a VPN on the tethered device.
2. Use a tethering app, like WiFi Tether Router.
3. Never ever use the built in tethering method if you're on a stock or stock-based ROM.
4. Simple.
Using a VPN hides your data packets and prevents T-Mobile from inspecting your data packets to find out where the data is coming from. It is none of their business in the first place. I suggest doing this no matter what if you care about privacy.
What VPN service do you recommend and how do I go about setting it up.
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Soldier_Rocks_08 said:
What VPN service do you recommend and how do I go about setting it up.
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I don't recommend one. Google it to find a list. Decide which you prefer. Most VPNs will provide an app or instructions on how to set up in Android.

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