Nice bonus on AT&T - Nexus 5 General

WiFi hotspot tethering now works for me. On my former AT&T-branded Galaxy S2, this feature was disabled unless I were on the higher-cost data plan, which definitely was not worth it for me. But the unlocked Nexus starts it right up.
This is great for us. For example, when we're on a car trip, my wife can use her Kindle or iPod Touch to access the Internet. Same for anyplace where we don't have a good public WiFi signal.

Be careful. They monitor what type of traffick is transmitted and can figure out that you are tethering. ATT will then automatically enroll you in a tethering plan and charge you for it. It happened to Me with a different device.
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As long as you're using another mobile device to tether you should be fine
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Vanhoud said:
As long as you're using another mobile device to tether you should be fine
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This is an accurate statement. I should have clarified - don't use a laptop but an iPod or KF should be fine.
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AndroidSlave said:
Be careful. They monitor what type of traffick is transmitted and can figure out that you are tethering. ATT will then automatically enroll you in a tethering plan and charge you for it. It happened to Me with a different device.
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While I've heard of this happening often, it's never happened to me even after a whole 6-7 hours of tethering when we didn't have the network set up yet at my new office.
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Interesting...does device type have any merit?

Any idea how this would work on the GoPhone plans? They can't really automatically enroll you in anything since it is prepaid.

avus_m3 said:
Interesting...does device type have any merit?
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yes mobile device = mobile device ie; tablet, phone, android, ios. wont get caught
Computer = computer ie; laptop, desktop. busted....

chakra said:
yes mobile device = mobile device ie; tablet, phone, android, ios. wont get caught
Computer = computer ie; laptop, desktop. busted....
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You can get your browsers to mimmick a mobile device so you can tether to a PC.

Vanhoud said:
As long as you're using another mobile device to tether you should be fine
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Are you sure? Yesterday I tethered my Nexus5 with my Nexus7.... and when I opened a chrome browser on the Nexus7, it asked me to upgrade to a tethering plan.
How can I get my Nexus5 to tether without running into this problem......... I know T-Mobile gives you 2.5gigabytes of tethering, but is there no way around this? even if the tethering is from the nexus5 to another android device?

ATT's tethering monitoring is based on APN only (called mobile broadband). Their only method of Engle enforcement is that all their branded phones lock you out of changing the apn in their stock att modified software.
If you're on phone or wap.cingular (and PTA as well in my experience) you can tether a pc all day long. Been doing it for years regularly on my unlocked S2 then my N4, and I'm currently tethered via my N5 on phone and LTE.
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ATT's tethering monitoring is based on APN only (called mobile broadband). Their only method of Engle enforcement is that all their branded phones lock you out of changing the apn in their stock att modified software.
If you're on phone or wap.cingular (and PTA as well in my experience) you can tether a pc all day long. Been doing it for years regularly on my unlocked S2 then my N4, and I'm currently tethered via my N5 on phone and LTE.
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So...I don't have to root and freeze the tethering file to tether? I can just go for it on my N5? I am taking a trip with the kids in the car and it would be nice to turn tethering on for their iPads. Leaving tonight and just got my N5 yesterday...so no time today to root.
Thanks in advance.

This has been an advantage of nexus phones since day one. The native tethering app works. Sure the carrier cab still try to block it from their end or cut you off, so don't over do it.
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I've always been able to use tethering on T-Mobile, they never said anything to me about it or blocked be.

compuw22c said:
ATT's tethering monitoring is based on APN only (called mobile broadband). Their only method of Engle enforcement is that all their branded phones lock you out of changing the apn in their stock att modified software.
If you're on phone or wap.cingular (and PTA as well in my experience) you can tether a pc all day long. Been doing it for years regularly on my unlocked S2 then my N4, and I'm currently tethered via my N5 on phone and LTE.
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I respectfully disagree.
I was always on WAP.Cingular APN and tethered with my note and got auto switched to tether plan with mild usage.
I did not try to cover by using only mobile sites...
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I have only received a notification once from ATT about tethering, never happened again and I have not been charged. I think its because my power was out and I really wanted to play battlefield so I just plugged my phone into my laptop and went at it.

mistahseller said:
I have only received a notification once from ATT about tethering, never happened again and I have not been charged. I think its because my power was out and I really wanted to play battlefield so I just plugged my phone into my laptop and went at it.
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I used to love that game. I don't game much anymore, but was there lag issues?

AndroidSlave said:
I respectfully disagree.
I was always on WAP.Cingular APN and tethered with my note and got auto switched to tether plan with mild usage.
I did not try to cover by using only mobile sites...
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This is very odd. I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I've done the same on wap.cingular AND others (but no mobile broadband even in the list on my apns) and I've browsed, bittorrented, etc all without issue from a real pc with no user agent hack. Again that was i9100 (tw and aosp), n4 and now n5. To be fair I don't think I've tethered a pc on the n5 yet but my tablets were fine. Maybe because I've got no contact they let me get away with more (doubtful) OR your Samsung ROM restored the apns to default from the Sim on you at some point and added the mobilebroadband apn to the list.
I HAVE been detected on tmo tethering because they detect via browser user agent. ATT does not require a spoofed user agent, as far as I can tell it's ONLY via that apn. So without mobilebroadband in your apn list you should be safe at least on a nexus or other non-carrier\aosp device.
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Paddington said:
Any idea how this would work on the GoPhone plans? They can't really automatically enroll you in anything since it is prepaid.
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I tether all the time with my Galaxy Express and S4. While on Jury duty I tethered for 7 hours. I never did anything to hide my tethering, just used an app that side steps the phone home thing. I'm on the GoPhone $35 plan, both my phones have been moded to use the dumb phone plans.

In any unlocked phone that feature would work.
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Tethering?

I'm running a 2.3.3 stock, rooted deodyxed(sp) nexus one and I was would wondering what apps are out there that would let me tether?
Thanks in advance.
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ummmmm the stock rom has this built-in.... I thought.
Settings>Wireless&Network>Tether&portable hotspot
Yeah stock android has tethering built into the OS. Up to 8 devices I believe, or close.
So that won't require me to pay through ATT? Could anyone elaborate?
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Yes
yes you don't need to pay the carrier i got t-mo and I use tethering all the time. It works great or download barnacle for creating a wifi hotspot, thats better.
coolanvesh said:
yes you don't need to pay the carrier i got t-mo and I use tethering all the time. It works great or download barnacle for creating a wifi hotspot, thats better.
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I think this isn't entirely true. The carriers have some control over this, and AT&T recently changed their tethering policy. That might mean you can't tether without the proper account.
The carriers can't control tethering. They can attempt to charge for it, though, using various methods of detecting you tethering.
That's what I'm thinking about; because I bought this phone from someone here and the line is still registered to a Capptivate, how could they know if I'm tethering or not?
I would have increased upload ans download usage but... other than that how could they know?
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That, to me, is a form of control, and what I meant.
I don't know if they do this, but theoretically, it could be built into the system to know when packets are the result of tethering. More likely, is that it is built into the phone software by the carrier, and so the N1 wouldn't be subject to this because the carrier doesn't have control over that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004560
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ummmmm the stock rom has this built-in.... I thought.
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galaxys said:
Settings>Wireless&Network>Tether&portable hotspot
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RogerPodacter said:
Yeah stock android has tethering built into the OS. Up to 8 devices I believe, or close.
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The carriers can't control tethering. They can attempt to charge for it, though, using various methods of detecting you tethering.
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I see everyone is using the term "tethering" to mean your phone sharing its internet connection via Wi-Fi? I guess the definition has changed -- to me, tethering was always using your phone as a dial-up modem, i.e., using a dial-string to connect to the internet, no? For example, using BT DUN (which is advantages, as you can keep your phone in your pocket and initiate an internet connection right from the computer, although I have yet to see an implementation of this on Android). In this case, carriers can tell. For example, with Rogers, the dial string is *99# so they can tell if you are using data over that versus using data on device via the normal APN.
Yes, I believe the most of the reference for "tethering" is changed from "legacy" reference - it's either USB or WiFi tether, and in both you don't actually use the phone as a modem to establish a connection, but use its own connectivity and share the access to it.
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Yes, I believe the most of the reference for "tethering" is changed from "legacy" reference - it's either USB or WiFi tether, and in both you don't actually use the phone as a modem to establish a connection, but use its own connectivity and share the access to it.
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I guess I need to catch up with the times! To me what your describing was internet connection sharing, not tethering... I guess my age is starting to show!

WiFi hotspot on 4.4.4 VZW?

Are there any options for running a WiFi hotspot on 4.4.4 VZW? I tried FoxFi and it said WiFi hotspot is blocked by the latest update. I'm currently not rooted.
Thanks!
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I believe the only way is to do it either via USB or bluetooth.
I hotspot off my moto x to my laptop with no issues and also hotspot for my tablet...without usb cable or bluetooth...i just turn on hotspot and go.
You need root to WiFi hostpot. All the methods that I am aware of requires it. Soon we should have a boot loader unlock, which will get you root and let you do this. Until then USB or patience is your answer sadly.
I don't pay the hotspot fee, so the built in hot spot doesn't work. Frustrating that they make hotspotting so difficult even though I'm allowed to do it by law (I have a data cap). Guess I'll just wait for root. Thanks!
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kdog349 said:
I don't pay the hotspot fee, so the built in hot spot doesn't work. Frustrating that they make hotspotting so difficult even though I'm allowed to do it by law (I have a data cap). Guess I'll just wait for root. Thanks!
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So you're not on the old unlimited data plan?
I thought Verizon enabled the hot spot feature on your phone automatically once you were on a tiered data plan, since it uses data from your tiered data.
You can always call them and ask.
That's the frustrating part, I switched to a 6GB plan partially because of the hotspot feature but they still block it on my phone. They gave me some whacky reason when I called them, something to do with the price tier I'm in.
I thought they weren't allowed to restrict bandwidth on the LTE spectrum as per their deal with the FCC, but I guess they found a loophole.
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kdog349 said:
That's the frustrating part, I switched to a 6GB plan partially because of the hotspot feature but they still block it on my phone. They gave me some whacky reason when I called them, something to do with the price tier I'm in.
I thought they weren't allowed to restrict bandwidth on the LTE spectrum as per their deal with the FCC, but I guess they found a loophole.
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first, i'd read your TOS to see if it's mentioned there, then i'd call back and complain and then escalate to a manager. tethering is included in the share everything plans, so if you're on some unique plan, you may be out of luck.
also:
http://lifehacker.com/5933152/the-right-to-tether-what-the-verizonfcc-settlement-means-to-you

tethering unlocked tmobile with att service?

As title states, is it possible?
funtimez said:
As title states, is it possible?
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For sure. I use AT&T service on the tmobile Note 4 all day. I use tethering all the time too. Never heard anything from AT&T.
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ShrekOpher said:
For sure. I use AT&T service on the tmobile Note 4 all day. I use tethering all the time too. Never heard anything from AT&T.
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do you know if its possible to tether with straight talk?
blane3298 said:
do you know if its possible to tether with straight talk?
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I don't see why not.
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Any idea how
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Just use the phones native tethering.
It should be in your settings. No need to do anything else special.
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I have always used Foxfi to tether on custom roms on AT&T phones and have not been detected as long as I only tethered an android tablet. They could detect a Windows PC unless I used a VPN.
I cannot use Foxfi on 5.1.1 roms on the N910T since it gets an error. I can run native tethering and it works fine, but have only done it a little bit since I am kind of wary about being detected - I have already been warned twice already a couple years ago. I, too, wanted to make sure it was undetectable by AT&T if I used the native tethering instead of Foxfi with its proxy.
I unlock my Samsung Note 4 T-Mobile with sim-unlock code, but I've heard that I cannot use this phone with internet 3G, 4G or LTE i'm outside US. And also I need another code to unlock this feature. I cannot check if I can use 3G Internet or not. Somebody knows that for sure?

Unlimited tethering

I am looking at getting this phone in a week and was wondering if there is away for unlimited tethering.
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Which plan are you on?
Soldier_Rocks_08 said:
I am looking at getting this phone in a week and was wondering if there is away for unlimited tethering.
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one way that i know off is getting Wifi Tether Router, i haven't use it for about 2 or 3 months but when i was using it, work like a charm .
I once saw Legere's comment about T-Mobile is cracking down hardcore tethering users with "non-usual" ways. Not sure what the penalties are but i would be really carefull if I were you.
1. Use a VPN on the tethered device.
2. Use a tethering app, like WiFi Tether Router.
3. Never ever use the built in tethering method if you're on a stock or stock-based ROM.
4. Simple.
Using a VPN hides your data packets and prevents T-Mobile from inspecting your data packets to find out where the data is coming from. It is none of their business in the first place. I suggest doing this no matter what if you care about privacy.
What VPN service do you recommend and how do I go about setting it up.
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What VPN service do you recommend and how do I go about setting it up.
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I don't recommend one. Google it to find a list. Decide which you prefer. Most VPNs will provide an app or instructions on how to set up in Android.

No root no tether?

I'm guessing there's no way to tether now that there's no rooting...? If that's the case I'm gonna have to return it. Any recommendations on a similar rootable phone. I just traded in my note 4.
van131 said:
I'm guessing there's no way to tether now that there's no rooting...? If that's the case I'm gonna have to return it. Any recommendations on a similar rootable phone. I just traded in my note 4.
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Pay for the tethering option..............
Go get a note 4, 5 or nexus if you need root.
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NXLTrauma25 said:
Pay for the tethering option..............
Go get a note 4, 5 or nexus if you need root.
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van131 said:
I'm guessing there's no way to tether now that there's no rooting...? If that's the case I'm gonna have to return it. Any recommendations on a similar rootable phone. I just traded in my note 4.
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without root you have to go off the tethering on your plan if you have it. dont go with the new tmobile unlimited plans because they charge for tethering and it's not as much as you can get now. there's really not anything similar to the note 7. the note 5 comes to mind but you had the note 4 so i'm guessing you didnt like the note 5. the international note 7 has root so you could go that route. it has bands for tmobile use.
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without root you have to go off the tethering on your plan if you have it. dont go with the new tmobile unlimited plans because they charge for tethering and it's not as much as you can get now. there's really not anything similar to the note 7. the note 5 comes to mind but you had the note 4 so i'm guessing you didnt like the note 5. the international note 7 has root so you could go that route. it has bands for tmobile use.
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Will those bands support tmobile 4g though? Past experience with international phones is they keep speeds at 3g
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Will those bands support tmobile 4g though? Past experience with international phones is they keep speeds at 3g
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tmobile uses Frequencies: Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 12 (700 MHz).
the n930F uses:
LTE Cat9 700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 (Bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28)
TD-LTE 1900/2300/2500/2600 (Bands 38,39,40,41)
so yes it is tmobile compatible.
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Lol. Don't like being told you are stealing? Ok whatever bud.
Enjoy whatever rooted phone you get.
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Only thing that won't work is wifi calling with international
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NXLTrauma25 said:
Lol. Don't like being told you are stealing? Ok whatever bud.
Enjoy whatever rooted phone you get.
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Only thing that won't work is wifi calling with international
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good point. i forgot about the wifi calling. but imo thats not a make or break thing because you can still get volte and that should be good enough. trade wifi calling for root. sounds like a decent trade to me.
freebee269 said:
good point. i forgot about the wifi calling. but imo thats not a make or break thing because you can still get volte and that should be good enough. trade wifi calling for root. sounds like a decent trade to me.
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Yeah, for me I couldn't because of service around my house but for many it's acceptable. I would get an international version if I didn't need wifi calling. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the international version was just updated and locked down.
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Pdanet since note 5 that wasn't rooted, zero issues, tested on note 7, same, no problems.
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Lol. Don't like being told you are stealing? Ok whatever bud.
Enjoy whatever rooted phone you get.
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Is there a full moon tonight?
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pcriz said:
Is there a full moon tonight?
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Lol I know right?
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freebee269 said:
good point. i forgot about the wifi calling. but imo thats not a make or break thing because you can still get volte and that should be good enough. trade wifi calling for root. sounds like a decent trade to me.
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Unless your lte signal is equally as crappy. Without WiFi calling I may as well put my in airplane mode when I get home.
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Yeah, for me I couldn't because of service around my house but for many it's acceptable. I would get an international version if I didn't need wifi calling. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the international version was just updated and locked down.
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How likley do you think tmobo note7 will be rooted?
barfingmonkey said:
Pdanet since note 5 that wasn't rooted, zero issues, tested on note 7, same, no problems.
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Will it bypass the limited data?
pcriz said:
Unless your lte signal is equally as crappy. Without WiFi calling I may as well put my in airplane mode when I get home.
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my lte signal is not crappy at all. i'm in a decent area. i normally turn off wifi calling to save some battery and on calls i dont have a problem with quality because of volte. i have a tmobile wifi calling router but honestly i dont use it much for wifi calling. i use it for normal internet because its a very good quality router.
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I'll recommend a Nexus 6P, it's a gorgeous phone, and it's full pure android, so no problem rooting it legally from google.
no problem with bands, as it's multi band.
I'm using Wind (T-mobile partner), I too only buy phones that works with AWS bands
for the past few years, all phones are true multi-bands, so we no longer have issues with phones not supporting AWS
I too was considering the Nexus 6P before picking up the Note 7.... which I might either return or sell, if root is not available in the next 30 days
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my lte signal is not crappy at all. i'm in a decent area. i normally turn off wifi calling to save some battery and on calls i dont have a problem with quality because of volte. i have a tmobile wifi calling router but honestly i dont use it much for wifi calling. i use it for normal internet because its a very good quality router.
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I understand why someone wouldn't need it but not knowing the use case of the guy asking the question it's better to assume all possibilities rather than just your own.
I for one cannot send a text message at home without WiFi calling connected. That may be a consideration for him to take into account when making his decision.
Also the area he lives in may not support volte
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NXLTrauma25 said:
Lol. Don't like being told you are stealing? Ok whatever bud.
Enjoy whatever rooted phone you get.
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Only thing that won't work is wifi calling with international
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oops thought i responded:
Oh.. calm down........
AllGamer said:
I'll recommend a Nexus 6P, it's a gorgeous phone, and it's full pure android, so no problem rooting it legally from google.
no problem with bands, as it's multi band.
I'm using Wind (T-mobile partner), I too only buy phones that works with AWS bands
for the past few years, all phones are true multi-bands, so we no longer have issues with phones not supporting AWS
I too was considering the Nexus 6P before picking up the Note 7.... which I might either return or sell, if root is not available in the next 30 days
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Yeah it looks like a nice phone but the display is not as good. What do you use root for?
van131 said:
Yeah it looks like a nice phone but the display is not as good. What do you use root for?
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Titanium Backup, i've been using it for many many years.
The stupid Samsung "Smart Switch" (not smart enough) software doesn't work, it doesn't transfer your Apps/Games and safe games, or Apps data.
Which is why Titanium Backup is a must.
Then I also use use Droid Firewall, to manually control what comes in and out via. It's a great tool to avoid browser malware from being installed into your phone unexpectedly while browsing the web, or trying out some AD Bomb Infested Apps from Google Play.
Being able to choose what gets to connect to the internet, makes it easy to identify. Nothing goes behind my back without knowing which App is sending/receiving data.
There are a lot of other Apps I use which requires root, but they are of less importance. Apps like Widgetsoid, CPU Speed control, GPU speed control, SD card Boost, restart to Recovery Mode, and much more, basically all the Apps that can let you have full control over your phone.
Which is why most manufacture they do not like the idea of the "End User" messing around with their phone, because we are not "Owner" of our own phone, so we don't get to be "Admins"
That's the only nice thing about Nexus phones, you are guaranteed Admin / Root access.
But unfortunately as you mentioned, Nexus phones even the top of the line, are not always the best.
Samsung makes the best phone, but they are getting worse and worse at letting the "Consumer" do what they want with the phone.

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