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Battery Diagnostics

Hello,
I have upgraded my Imate PDA2k ROM Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2 R2 by baniaczek for about a month now. It has been working perfectly fine with no much issues on Wifi and other stuff. But since last one week i see my battery runs out within 3 hours and each time i had to re-charge the same. Even though the usage is really minimal. ( May be 2 or three calls and no real PDA usage). Also i feel the device is heated up most of the time. Are there any diagnostic tools for battery ?. .. Is this caused by any program running continously.
Any suggestions to find out the battery problem.

It is probably a running program or some activated interface (GPRS, IrDA, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi). Make sure they are all deactivated.

Thanks for the reply. I have tried disabling BT/WiFi / GPS ( even deleted GPS Connections ). Still the battery runs only for 3 to 4 hours. How can i figure out which of the applications might be causing the problem ??..... ( As i stated in my previous post things were fine two weeks back ). I can not figure out!... Can this be a hardware problem ?. Should i try flashing the ROM again ?.
Any suggestions will be of great help.
Thanks.

Is the backlight always on?

No. I think its a hardware problem. I flashed the ROM again and still the battery was draining really fast. Anyways i will change the battery now and check.
regards

Perhaps the battery is getting life expired. THe most common indication of expiring battery is that it stats taking longer to charge and gets drained faster...Try replacing the battery..

Your right but it shouldn't happen in so great leap. You said that you flashed another ROM. Try doing master reset and leave the device in factory-fresh state - do not restore anything from backup imediately. If it is fine then, it is a software problem. If it is not, try turning on the flight mode for determining if it is GSM related. I'm afraid that a new battery won't solve anything.

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i'm guessing that your IR is turned on since you did not state it on your post earlier!
IR eats your battery like pacman does.

bara_too said:
IR eats your battery like pacman does.
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It would still be interesting to have battery diagnostics software. Does anyone know of such a package?

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/batterytests.html?en
might be useful for testing.. could potentially try different screen brightness and speeds to get a comparison. I will say that I used to only get 1 day from my old OEM battery.. got one of the e-bay special 2500mAh and now it easily gets 3 days with the same usage pattern as before..

After a long time again a re-post on this. Well my problems seems to be not getting over. I flashed the PDA2k to factory state and still the battery was draining. Then next obvious thing was to replace the battery. Now i have a brand new battery and reflashed again to factory state and my fears are coming true... still the battery drains in 3 hours... what next guys ?.

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After a long time again a re-post on this. Well my problems seems to be not getting over. I flashed the PDA2k to factory state and still the battery was draining. Then next obvious thing was to replace the battery. Now i have a brand new battery and reflashed again to factory state and my fears are coming true... still the battery drains in 3 hours... what next guys ?.
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have you checked ur infra red setting? make sure its OFF! i think, it is turned on as default after flashing! or maybe your charger is defective! try someones charger!

IR disabling has not helped in the past. But i tried again but no much use. The equipment is heated up during normal usage time. Is there any thing more i can try before my BA becomes a history. ( BTW. the repair center refused take anything other than the screen changes and battery replacements. !!.. )

Any one having any idea how to reset the bios ?. I think my battery problems are related to trying out the Trial Version of Pocket Hack Master to overclock the PDA. I have uninstalled it long time back and may even have performed three to four times ROM updates but may not have reset the software's overclocking settings back .. ?!!...
BTW. The service center argued out that the any ROM updates other than official Imate ROM will void the warrantee and twice they returned without repair and attributed the the problem of heating to ROM updates... ( without even checking!! ...

I faced the same problem when attempted to upgrade my Harrier. I agree, that there must be an error somewhere in the device BIOS that cannot be that easily reflashed. Unfortunately, I could not find any solution and had to replace the useless phone that drained the battery within 4-5 hrs.

Yes the over clocking eatsup the battery as well as causes heating up the device. So better dactivate the over clocking..

Battery life problems

Right then,
I am a n00b here, and am expecting a bunch of 'search for it' responses that seem common in my reading of the forum over the past day or so. I have tried all of the tweaks recommended and still suffer from poor battery life. Today for example, day 4 of having the phone, and having been charged approximately 6 times during that time, the phone has only 2 green 'bars' of power left after only 8 hours of being on. During that time I have made no phone calls, and sent/received about 8 sms messages.
Anyone have any ideas or similar problems? I understand that this phone suffers from limited battery power, but mine seems particularly bad.
Thanks anyone who can help.

could be a bad battery?
I improved mine by disabling the GPRS auto-attach (massive saving) and truning off wifi using comm manager when not using it but by the sound of it you have tried these...
Mine lasts a few days now.
I also got good results from Bepe's and TDP's ROMs but it's probably nad to flash if you are thinking of sending it back as faulty...

Yes, also as a 'n00b' I'm not too confident flashing it just yet. The battery does get hot during charging, something others say doesn't happen. I think it may be a faulty battery. I have turned off the auto-attach and also wifi, as well as any other tweaks that were mentioned on here regarding battery life. Nothing seems to be working. Anyone else have any input? Thanks.

Same problem here.
I also flashed it with TLR ROM... but the problem is the same and very annoying.
I use it in a very normal way without any strange usages.
For me the battery resists only 75% of the day... and it is terrible!!!
I tried also with the minumum of brightness.... but you can't use it like this all the time!!!
Any suggestions??
Thnx!!

I am thinking of phoning Orange (who I got the phone from) and asking for their help. I think I might have to send the phone back which I really don't want to do. I hope they might just ship me a replacement battery.

wow. u get 4 hours? mines more like 2 hours. im on my 2nd diamond with the same results. i tried all the different roms also. u are not alone. my fix was going back to using my old touch.

You should flash a new rom..I recommend you shep's new rom and get radio 1.12.25.19 with matched rilphone2.dll..your diamond will stop suffering from battery draining.

evilskanker said:
Right then,
I am a n00b here, and am expecting a bunch of 'search for it' responses that seem common in my reading of the forum over the past day or so. I have tried all of the tweaks recommended and still suffer from poor battery life.
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Just in case you haven't tried all tweaks and tips yet, have a look at this Battery Conservation Fanatic thread.

If the battery is OK, you should try with a new rom. I had the same problem: my Diamond were with Vodafone default ROM and the battery lasted half a day... now with a cooked ROM, the battery lasts near two days.
Good luck!

900 mAh is btw way too small for such a phone, I recommend you to get a new rom/new battery. I'm waiting soooo much on my new 1800 mAh battery........

G1 shuts off randomly and thinks it's dead?

Hey, guys, I tried dong some research but I can't find anyone with a similar problem.
I've got a T-Mobile (USA) G1 and I've got Cyanogen's Eclair ROM flashed on it. Prior to flashing Cyanogen's ROM, I was using OpenEclair. OpenEclair was working [relatively] well until my phone randomly started shutting off. I thought it was a battery calibration problem, so I recalibrated my battery by letting it die completely and then charging it fully, but that didn't work. I flashed Cyanogen's Eclair and hoped that my problem would be fixed, but the problem still persists.
I can't really isolate the problem. My phone can shut off in the middle of a call, in the middle of writing a txt message, or without me even using it while it's in my pocket. It shuts off regardless of the battery level (I've seen it shut off at like 97%). This wouldn't be THAT bad except the phone refuses to turn on right after it shuts off. When I press the power button, the phone will show the G1 logo for a few seconds and then shut off again as if it was dead. Sometimes if I press the power button, the phone won't turn on and I'll see the LED flash red which gives me the idea that the phone "thinks" it's dead. In order for me to turn the phone back on, I need to plug in the charger. This is becoming extremely annoying.
Does anyone know what the problem could be? I would try wiping/re-flashing but I don't wanna lose all my data :/
Thanks,
Gerard

I'm having the same exact problem ever since installing cyanogen 5.0.7 Test 1... so im not sure whats going on but i went to T-Mobile today... and they said my battery is warped or somethin not to tech savy... yet it was working fine like totally so... hmmm anyone know anything?

yea this has happened to me too! It shuts off randomly then i cant turn it back on until like 30 minutes later without touching it. I noticed that it happened after i flashed a open eclair rom that wouldnt start but i did flash it correctly. I have wiped battery stats and dalvik cache. Well i hope we can get some answers

I had the same problem I have tried just about every rom out there so dont remember when it started but i ordered a new battery off ebay for 10 bucks and havent had a problem since

jjovro1611 said:
I had the same problem I have tried just about every rom out there so dont remember when it started but i ordered a new battery off ebay for 10 bucks and havent had a problem since
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So you think it's a hardware problem? I find it kinda hard to believe that all of us coincidentally got this problem after installing Ecalir ROMs...unless Eclair destroys our battery somehow?
:/

yeah same here but mine started with Amon Ra 1.2.3 and the blue haze rom. I updated my recovery to the latest 1.6.2 I think and switched to htcclay's superfast and the danger spl slso tmobile is comping me a new battery just to be safe, although switching rom's seem's to have helped my battery life a little. hope this helps someone.

Have you tried replacing the battery?

PurpleLlamaLover said:
Have you tried replacing the battery?
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Nah, I'm part lazy and part unconvinced that it's a hardware issue. I mean if the phone reads that the battery is like 95% charged, why would it just give out randomly? I don't know much about hardware though, so maybe I'm wrong...
I want T-Mobile to get a new Android phone that's like incredible I want a new phone already damnit!!

im just gonna buy a battery on ebay or something because my battery does look kinda swollen so it could possibly be the battery. Gonna give it a try though

eric3043 said:
im just gonna buy a battery on ebay or something because my battery does look kinda swollen so it could possibly be the battery. Gonna give it a try though
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You think you could update us when you find out whether it changes anything or not? :/

This phone gets me really frustrated because first it started shutting off and now i have a unresponsive lock screen! I push all the buttons and the screen is black like if its turned off. I have to do a battery pull but theres a risk of the phone not turning back on and shutting off on the g1 screen. I was planning to buy the battery today but i think im just going to use a different phone for now. I hope someone can really resolve this problem. Cant wait for the samsung galaxy s

For what it's worth, I started having the same issue last week with my G1. I think it's entirely coincidental that you switched to the CM 2.1 Test branch and your phone started getting screwy.
I looked at my battery as the first suspect, and what did I find when I pulled it out of the case? A badly swolen battery. By the end of the week, the swelling had gotten so bad that it was visibly bulging the plastic backing on my G1.
I took it to 3 separate T-Mobile stores looking for a replacement battery. The first two were of no luck, but the 3rd finally had one in stock. The CSR saw my battery and almost freaked out. She says I was lucky that it didn't pop because it was ready to at just about any moment.
Long story short, since replacing my battery, I have had ZERO issues, and my battery life has once again been phenomenal (well, for the G1).

I just checked my battery and I think it's possible that it's swollen. On the side where it says "htc Innovation," is it supposed to be perfectly flat? There's like a rectangle that's slightly raised above the rest of surface. I'm a little hesitant to buy a $50 battery if that's the way the battery is supposed to be.
Thanks,
Gerard

Spontaneous power off - sunspots?
Yes, this happened to me fairly frequently about 3 months ago. Now it happens (maybe) once a week.
In my experience, it isn't a Cyanogen issue - it would spontaneous die when I used Enomther's official rom, SuperD (one of the previous versions), and some others. That made me think it was hardware, but ... I haven't changed hardware, and still drop the G1 into my pocket like usual.
So if it isn't ROM software and it isn't hardware, what is it - sunspots?

grardb said:
I just checked my battery and I think it's possible that it's swollen. On the side where it says "htc Innovation," is it supposed to be perfectly flat? There's like a rectangle that's slightly raised above the rest of surface. I'm a little hesitant to buy a $50 battery if that's the way the battery is supposed to be.
Thanks,
Gerard
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It should be perfectly flat. A new, good battery does not have the bulging rectangle in the middle you are talking about. Mine did the same thing. In fact, both sides were swelling. The battery would no longer sit flush in the back. My theory was simply that some sort of movement was causing it to lose contact and shutting off the phone.
If you take the battery out and lay it flat the table, you shouldn't be able to rock it by pressing an edge. If you can, your battery is dying.

I just bought a battery yesterday on amazon for 15$ You should check it out. Hope this battery resolves my problem. I also fixed my lock screen issue. I had set cpu to 120 instead of 128 so it unresponsive.

I have the same problem, and indeed when i now look at it my battery seems a bit swollen. I ordered a replacement battery on dealextreme. They have a few different battery replacements for the G1 for cheap (and lots of other things, regular customer) with free shipping. So i hope that will fix my problem .

I found this thread because I've been having random shutoffs as if the battery were pulled (black screen immediately, no "Shutting Down" prompt first), and it would only do this when NOT charging. This started happening when I first ran Firerat's all-in-one script but I think it was coincidental. So anyways, I found this thread after wanting to pull my hair out because of the random shutoffs, and sure enough, I pulled my battery and it's a bit puffed out. Time for a new battery.
My question is : does anyone think this is a result of the extra strain placed on the battery / heat generated from being overclocked? Once I get a new battery, I'd like to prevent it from happening in the future.

definately a battery problem. had the same thing on my g1. got into a whole big argument about how it WAS NOT PHONE in the cyanogen6 thread. guess what....it was my phone.
its not the rom. its your phone. seriously.
also, just to point out, most of us here got our phones relatively early in its release, and lot of people are having this problem now apparently. battery has life of 2yrs by my calculations.
if you can mimic a reboot with the phone plugged into usb or wall charger...it may be rom. but if you phone DOES NOT DIE while PLUGGED IN...ITS YOUR BATTERY.

Had the same problem with my 2008 bought g1, swollen battery and random shutdowns. Just inserted an new bought battery. Hope it fixes the problem.

[Q] Battery dies rapidly after a full charge

HI
My wife has my old Touch Diamond2. She complains that after charging it overnight, the battery shows as FULL, but within a few hours it is dsicharged.
1. Does the battery need replacing
2. How can I check to confirm it is the battery and not the charger/phone.
regards
Max

Try the battery saving tricks mentioned in this thread
Advanced Tricks for Saving Battery
Hope this helps you,
Senax

Thanks Senax for the nice link.. That is very nice thread to read and understand
thanks

I think the phone possibly has a hardware fault.
It strange, because if I take the simm out the phone keeps alomost full charge for the whole day!!
Not sure if its worth fixing.

mpathan said:
I think the phone possibly has a hardware fault.
It strange, because if I take the simm out the phone keeps alomost full charge for the whole day!!
Not sure if its worth fixing.
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May be you can check what all kind of networks are working/used when SIM is in? Also make the network selection Manual instead of AUTO and see the difference.
thanks.

mpathan said:
HI
My wife has my old Touch Diamond2. She complains that after charging it overnight, the battery shows as FULL, but within a few hours it is dsicharged.
1. Does the battery need replacing
2. How can I check to confirm it is the battery and not the charger/phone.
regards
Max
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I had the same problem...
recently I did two changes...
I Flashed the last radio
I Flashed the last Photon UX Room.
And then I fixed the battery problem...
why? I don´t know
lfallasm...

Thanks lfallasm and TD2IN
I dont want to flash the phone cos I have software (TomTOm) on the phone for which I no longer have the original CD to re-install. Also I have never flashed before.
I will try the network selection suggestion.
cheers

Network selection is already set to Manual.
I noticed something very STRANGE today.
I thought it maybe due to the signal in the new house we moved to, so I took the phone to work. Made one call and it went dead. Tried to start the phone, but battery to weak.
I took the sim out. started the phone without the sim and HEY PRESTO, battery is 75% full!!
Any ideas whats going on??

You should really flash it first, and if it fails you have a faulty phone. But flash it with HTC stock Rom, because you will lose waranty if you use anything else.

Its out of warranty. (My wife uses this phone now)
Would a FACTORY reset achieve the same as flashing with a HTC stock rom??
regards

FIXED.
The battery was faulty.
Apparently is had developed a slight "buldge" in the middle. Probably due to over heating.
Bought a new battery and all seems well.
£8 battery saved me buying a wildfire S for the wife.

[Q] Battery life very random - Is it fixable

Hi all, I'm very sorry in advance if this is already covered somewhere but I couldn't locate
I have 2 problems - I've had my I9000 for 2 years now. The battery life was very random some days would last the day other times a few hours (same usage) so I got a new battery about 5 months ago. There wasn't any improvement. Now its worse.
I'm lucky to get 2 hours use out of it sometimes it dies as soon as unplugging from charger even though it's at 100%. Sometimes it just dies with no warning with plenty of charge left .. switch back on and batt life down to a few % and all other variants in between
So my first question is - Is this fixable with software changes and if so please direct me with best solution
My other problem is the home button doesn't work anymore or at least I didn't think it did until recently I pressed fairly hard and moved my thumb around and it suddenly worked (have to do this each time now) - after some research I've come to the conclusion that these buttons if any damp/moisture gets underneath it can corrode and my wife uses it in the bath all the time. Understand would be tricky and I'm sure I could pull it off but is it possible to take apart and clean?
Thanks in advance for any assistance possible and again sorry if same issues already posted/answered

What ROM are you on? This behaviour is really weird... What happens if you charge your phone while it is turned off?
To the 2nd question: There are CM9/10 ROMs with touch buttons implemented, so that shouldn't be a too big problem.
Sent from my Gameboy Color

Hi and thanks for your reply, currently on (bear with me if not all info needed)
Firmware 2.3.6
baseband I9000BUJV4
Kernal 2.6.35.7-I9000XXJVU-CL851880 [email protected] #2
Build GINGERBREAD.BUJVG
Note I did root my phone and used the 'No-frills CPU Control' so see if this would have any effect on battery life but no change
Also there is no difference if charge whilst switched off or on - It has the same temperamental behaviour
Thanks in advance

There are some battery calibration apps in Play Store. Try one of them when your phone is 100% charged. Furthermore I'd recommend flashing a completely new ROM to be sure nothing is left. Then calibrate again.
I'm sorry, I can only give advices since I've never heard or read about that problem before.
Sent from my Gameboy Color

There is a thread somewhere about the solution of the home button problem. I'll help you find the thread.
As for the battery, I suggest that you install a new custom ROM. There are lots for your phone, so anything is possible and up to you. You should try flashing, its fun.
EDIT: here's the thread to the he button solution. Apperently its a hardware problem. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601003
Sent from my GT-I9001 using xda app-developers app

Thanks for all the above advice - I have unfortunatly cracked the Amoled screen :crying:
Wondering if it's worth my time putting it back together ...... Will it still work ?
Thanks again

and the answer is no :crying:
never mind it was over 2 years old now .... good excuse to buy new toy (silver cloud and all that)
ttfn