a friend got a HTC ONE X which is using Tegra3. Just so so.
Yes, because ICS is not optimized for quad core. Plus, it is Tegra 3 which means no support.
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Yes, because ICS is not optimized for quad core.
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Sorry, but how is that so? What is your definition of an OS not being "optimized" for multiple cores? Based on my limited knowledge, kernels take control of the activation and deactivation of the cores, and the apps themself are the ones that are supposed to "take advantage" of the cores.
How is an OS supposed be "optimized" for a quad core CPU?
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a friend got a HTC ONE X which is using Tegra3. Just so so.
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Now I think buying a tegra inside device is not a good idea, the same with lg.
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Yes, because ICS is not optimized for quad core. Plus, it is Tegra 3 which means no support.
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That is up there with some of the stupidest things iv ever read.
I think the Android ecosystem is so complex that occasional lags are bound to happen even if we reach a point of using 8 cores on a smartphone. (And that, is why iOS is so smooth with slower hardware. It's a simpler OS.)
But the Tegra3 pretty much leaves everyone in the dust when it comes to games.
But when it comes to support... oh noes
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But when it comes to support... oh noes
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The international version of the HTC One X with Tegra 3 has already gotten its full sources released a while ago.
At least it seems Nvidia isn't as unsupportive as we think they are. LG, apparently, is the one that is holding back from releasing sources for us.
Yea, but when Android 5 comes out then I hope that they will release all the necessary stuff. That may make me think better about Nvidia.
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The international version of the HTC One X with Tegra 3 has already gotten its full sources released a while ago.
At least it seems Nvidia isn't as unsupportive as we think they are. LG, apparently, is the one that is holding back from releasing sources for us.
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With nvidia drivers and hals to the public?
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ok good for you
now i am goign to enjoy my Quad Core phone again okay?
What is the point of this thread? As for desktop PC's, more cores = better (most of the time). Since dual cores work just fine in both GB and ICS the same goes for quad cores. And NO, quad cores don't mean less battery duration.
Maybe he is just jeaulous but i dont think a phone needs quad core. For web browsing and watching videos (well.. lol tegra 2 ) some gameing. dual core is more than enough. As i mentiond some time ago in other thread this reminds me of megapixel hunt in compact digital cameras market.
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And what was the purpose of posting it here? do you want to make an excuse that quadcore isn't nowhere near better than dualcore?
I agree with someone said quadcore isn't really important for mobile phone. If only O2x have more than 512 MB RAM I bet it will last for next 2-3 years
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And what was the purpose of posting it here? do you want to make an excuse that quadcore isn't nowhere near better than dualcore?
I agree with someone said quadcore isn't really important for mobile phone. If only O2x have more than 512 MB RAM I bet it will last for next 2-3 years
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It can still last for 2-3 years, you just wont be able to multitask when playing games so much in the future.
quadcores will be **** if they dont have that 5th core for when there isnt much going on or they will chew through battery.
The new huwai something has its own quadcore and it smashes all cuurent quad cores in benchmarks, tegra 3 the exenos ect. But if it doesnt have that 5th core it will probably be bad. Its said to come with a 2300mah battery.
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It can still last for 2-3 years, you just wont be able to multitask when playing games so much in the future.
quadcores will be **** if they dont have that 5th core for when there isnt much going on or they will chew through battery.
The new huwai something has its own quadcore and it smashes all cuurent quad cores in benchmarks, tegra 3 the exenos ect. But if it doesnt have that 5th core it will probably be bad. Its said to come with a 2300mah battery.
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But branding sometimes matter. Market rarely pay attention to a brand like Huawei,compared to samsung. I heard Meizu MX also decent but yeah it has the same market problem
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But branding sometimes matter. Market rarely pay attention to a brand like Huawei,compared to samsung. I heard Meizu MX also decent but yeah it has the same market problem
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The Meizu MX Quad has pretty good specs (including the same Exynos 4212 in the S3), but is sold only in China. It's not meant to compete internationally.
Most useless thread ever.
My HTC one x is a hundred times better than my o2x was
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My HTC one x is a hundred times better than my o2x was
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and o2x is hundred times cheaper...common sense
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i only bought the lg 2x for 3 weeks, and this is sad to watch.
However, i don't see the point of the gpu being such powerful, since android does not have any thing to push the gpu at all besides benchmark. This is a good way to make myself feel better.
I would like to know is there difference between Tegra 2 cpu vs Exynos cpu at all?? besides Exynos gpu being so much more powerful than Tegra 2?
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oh thats just terrible
Now my O2x are completely useless - it will just stop functioning im sure
No wait - thats not right - whats happening, it still works ? My games still play, I can still read the news, I can still do all the things I did yesterday.
It's just a benchmark - does it really matter that much ?
Those are just numbers in my opinion.
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I might have wrong, but that benchmark is made for mobile gpus and tegra 2 is not like normal mobile gpus it's more like a desktop gpu. A eight core gpu can't be beaten by a quad core or?
Tegra is our one, probably futile, hope of future proofing our phones.
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Don't expect Tegra to lead benchmarks for a while until mobile graphics are more geared towards immediate mode rendering (Stuff more like PC graphics.). Everyone else uses Tile-based rendering. I believe NVidia did this to avoid changing the rendering (which changes the drivers even more and etc) once they reach "console-level" graphics. The Tegra 2 will excel in a few things. Don't expect it to be the best performer for now. Expect it to be a capable one.
Don't forget. SGS II is capped to 60fps and we won't know what it's truly capable of
I've seen several gaming videos and the tegra walks all over the Orion. I do agree that push for tegras are the last hope for a unified gaming platform and I think it will work. Nvidia has this backed and will see it through.
i am really sick of the fact every android phone has its own different games on each platform. same game cant be run on different android phones. this is stupid.
its one of the reasons i like Nvidia. they are trying to do something good here for once. you see all those samsung galaxy S2 hardware. but where all the games ? those same games i can play on nexus S. with good frames too. however with nvidia and tegra 2, the users are getting exclusive games that can take advantage of the hardware. thats nice for a change.
let the galaxy S2 owners have fun with there powerful phone on paper. at the end of the day. the Tegra 2 owners are the people who are getting the best looking games.
i am not saying i hate S2. because i will buy it as soon as i can. i love super amoled and the techs for the phone. but if i want a pure gaming phone. tegra 2 wins hands down. not because its the most powerful. but because there are exclusive games that take advantage of that GPU.
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ithe reasons i like Nvidia. they are trying to do something good here for once.
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No their not, they're taking games already under development which Android users were going to see anyway regardless of nvidia's involvement and paying the developers off to make them exclusive titles, this is a bad thing as most Android users will lose out because of it.
One of the Tegra 2 only pinball games once cracked works fine on a legend ffs!
Benchmarks are just numbers. Real life performance is what counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
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Benchmarks are just numbers. Real life performance is what counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
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What are we looking at exactly? Looks like they're both just playing a video
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What are we looking at exactly? Looks like they're both just playing a video
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this video shows at how the flash player performance is on web browsing watching a video and at this point watching an anime on both phones
so you can see that samsung galaxy with exynos and with 1.2ghz against lg2x nvidia tegra2 with 1ghz and lg optimus 2x seems for me faster for playing videos at this ..!i wanna only know if lg use stock 2.2.2 at this video against samsung galaxy s2 2.3.3 stock
lets compare those two videos and see that there are no differences between samsung s 2 and lg2x
and again dont forget...lg 2x has stock 2.2.2 rom
samsung galaxy s 2 has gingerbread 2.3.3 wich supposed to be faster..
think that when lg 2x will get official ginger 2.3.4 at this summer
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No their not, they're taking games already under development which Android users were going to see anyway regardless of nvidia's involvement and paying the developers off to make them exclusive titles, this is a bad thing as most Android users will lose out because of it.
One of the Tegra 2 only pinball games once cracked works fine on a legend ffs!
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True, and Nvidia is causing fragmentation by using their own compression formats. Afaik Mali supports the one and only standard format, but that don't help much when Nvidia is paying off devs to use their proprietary stuff. Yeah not very techical i know, but check out the SGS2 thread for more info.
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So i am one of those types of users that likes to indulge with new tech especially phones. Windows Phones are too limited, Apple is controlling (though yes the same can be said about Microsoft mobiles), so I am pleased that Google came out with an open platform.
Now that Sammy has brought out the Galaxy S2, which was a really excellent device, and afterwards the great Note, is there really anything better that we can expect soon? It's like we have hit the top edge with no where to go at all. None of the other OEM's can't seem to make decent phones to compete...
What is your opinion?
So what you want me to do 'bout that?
Probably a bit premature to make that pronouncement as most tech is quickly out of date but am guessing this was for discussion
Am looking forward to Tegra3 quad core coming out to mobiles (check out the Transformer Prime), increased cpu and gpu speeds with ics, improved battery life, faster internet speeds 4g or more.
i saw a tech demo where a guy connected his galaxy nexus to a monitor, bluetooth keyboard and trackpad, and mouse and used that as his main computer.
also hoping for a galaxy note the size of an 8.9 tab with the notes' digitizer.
Lots more to look forward to.
huawei announced a quad-core with 16 graphics cores at mwc 2012.
looks like we still have a way to go just yet, most likely lower power consumption.
i wouldnt let that stop anyone from purchasing a galaxy note though. in my opinion it is by far the best android phone currently on the market.
htc one x...quad core tegra 3..awesum device...beats the note in every benchmark
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htc one x...quad core tegra 3..awesum device...beats the note in every benchmark
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Personally I find huge amounts of processing-power quite meaningless on a mobile device, it's useful only if you play lots of games. If one could slap the mobile on a dock and turn it into a full desktop then it would be a different matter, then all the processing-power would actually start to make sense.
I just hope one or another manufacturer does come out with a mobile with a good dock and properly-supported desktop OS, there is no such a solution available yet.
Good thing I use my phone for real life applications like videos, Web surfing, drawing etc and not benchmarks then, and there the note is by far better.
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htc one x...quad core tegra 3..awesum device...beats the note in every benchmark
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except screen size!!!
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htc one x...quad core tegra 3..awesum device...beats the note in every benchmark
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So you like messing with quad-core on a passive-cooling device?
Tell me more about its usefullness on a longer period of useage.
Also to point out the Note actually does what its supposed to with the S-Pen, taking notes on the spot.
'Ubuntu for Android' is a usage scenario that will warrant quad-core processing. Check it out on the Ubuntu site.
Some manufacturers argue that quad-cores use less energy due to lower clock speeds, and shorter utilisation times. I know nothing about hardware though so I couldn't argue for or against this mindset.
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htc one x...quad core tegra 3..awesum device...beats the note in every benchmark
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Benchmarks = donkey turds
From the big ole Note
The Galaxy Note is now what was the HD2 then... the top performing AND
customizable phone for almost 2 years running. HD2 is still a top-phone, considering it will run anything from winmo 6.5, WP7, Android 2.3 on SD and in NAND, as well as ICS, ubuntu etc.
This fossile HD2 still runs my ubuntu in the car pretty darn fast!
You just know when such a "long lasting gadget" is released, if your blood runs a datastream and your hart pumps in cycles.
SonyWalkMan,C=64,Amiga500,PortableMp3player,Any1,8Ghz laptop, HTC HD2, Galaxy Note, Porsche 911.
You just know.
This phone has the potential to be a beast. This has nothing to with the Evo 3D but you might as well read up a bit while you guys wait for ICS.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/22/lg-optimus-4x-hd-unveiled-quad-core-tegra-3-ice-cream-sandwich/
Damn, this phone looks like it will raise the bar for all the other phones, just like the Evo 4G did.
4.7 inch, HD (could be higher def), quad core - the perfect phone for mobile gaming
Pretty much. I think it will need a bigger battery. 2000+ or whatever won't cut it.
That phone does indeed look like a beast, and I look forward to MWC 2012, where I hope that HTC can deliver an equally beastly phone
Funny thing is, with all the negativity surrounding its predecessor, the Optimus 2X, previous owners are highly skeptical lol. They hate LG with a passion.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/lgs-upcoming-mwc-lineup-runs-into-some-italians-gets-documente/
engadget just dropped a video looks so smooth its in italian thou lol
im digging it so far. only thing im waiting to see is if a quad core a15 chip gets dropped at MWC. the tegra 3 is nice and im sure the exynos quad core will be very nice but they r both a9's. i believe the dual core a15's match up or beat the a9 quad cores so imagine an a15 quad core dont take my word for it thou haha im pretty sure i read that somewhere
only a couple days left cant wait. ill most likely get a dual core a15 over a tegra 3 need to see how they stack up next to each other!
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Yep... Pretty much
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/lgs-upcoming-mwc-lineup-runs-into-some-italians-gets-documente/
engadget just dropped a video looks so smooth its in italian thou lol
im digging it so far. only thing im waiting to see is if a quad core a15 chip gets dropped at MWC. the tegra 3 is nice and im sure the exynos quad core will be very nice but they r both a9's. i believe the dual core a15's match up or beat the a9 quad cores so imagine an a15 quad core dont take my word for it thou haha im pretty sure i read that somewhere
only a couple days left cant wait. ill most likely get a dual core a15 over a tegra 3 need to see how they stack up next to each other!
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Texas instruments just showcased dualcore A15 omap.it beats the tegra 3 and its just clocked at 800mhz.so imagine a 2ghz one.
Full article here
http://www.slashgear.com/ti-omap-5-blows-past-quadcore-tegra-3-23215003/
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Texas instruments just showcased dualcore A15 omap.it beats the tegra 3 and its just clocked at 800mhz.so imagine a 2ghz one.
Full article here
http://www.slashgear.com/ti-omap-5-blows-past-quadcore-tegra-3-23215003/
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Ha yeah I thought so. That's insane can't wait to see these things fly I'll be skipping the whole quad core trend for one of these unless of course there happens to be some magical quad core a15. Performance over big numbers haha.. hope Sprint shows something off at MWC even thou they normally don't.
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Ha yeah I thought so. That's insane can't wait to see these things fly I'll be skipping the whole quad core trend for one of these unless of course there happens to be some magical quad core a15. Performance over big numbers haha.. hope Sprint shows something off at MWC even thou they normally don't.
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have fun waiting till Q1 2013.
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I haven't heard anything about a microsd card in this thing yet. Am I missing something or does that seem to be the case? I don't want anything to do with a phone that doesn't have microsd.
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have fun waiting till Q1 2013.
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well now i meant an a15 processor TI isnt the only company announcing them. wait now that i look r they i thought there was more? what is the new sanpdragon krait based on? someone knowledgable chime in pls! and for the moment i dont mind waiting haha my 3d is still perfect in my eyes im just a tech junkie and whenever there is something new i either sell mine or hand it on down in the family and jump on the newest
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well now i meant an a15 processor TI isnt the only company announcing them. wait now that i look r they i thought there was more? what is the new sanpdragon krait based on? someone knowledgable chime in pls! and for the moment i dont mind waiting haha my 3d is still perfect in my eyes im just a tech junkie and whenever there is something new i either sell mine or hand it on down in the family and jump on the newest
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Pretty sure Qualcomm's S4 chips r A15 based, also being built with 28nm processing...that's where the difference is being seen. Smaller chips much more efficient in the end.
What's funny is Samsung is going to be showing off their new chips at MWC and they only went down to 32nm with A9 cores for the quad chip shown on engadget...
Thought it was a tad odd though Samsung only making it to 32nm while everyone else is pushing for 28nm and lower. Hell Intel stated they are shooting for 14nm at CES if i remember right! They will be one to keep an eye on in the long run. Imho
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Pretty sure Qualcomm's S4 chips r A15 based, also being built with 28nm processing...that's where the difference is being seen. Smaller chips much more efficient in the end.
What's funny is Samsung is going to be showing off their new chips at MWC and they only went down to 32nm with A9 cores for the quad chip shown on engadget...
Thought it was a tad odd though Samsung only making it to 32nm while everyone else is pushing for 28nm and lower. Hell Intel stated they are shooting for 14nm at CES if i remember right! They will be one to keep an eye on in the long run. Imho
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i thought the snapdragon s4 was but i wasnt sure, tried to search it and couldnt find anywere that mentions its an a15 although im sure it is. was thinking the same thing as i read that everyone is going to 28nm and samsung of everyone is only going down to 32nm but u know it will be a very nice one.
definitely need to keep an eye on intel i havent been impressed with what theyve shown off so far but them being intel they have the background and resources to make some serious competition around here. 14nm is crazy mwc hasnt even started and i cant wait for ces..
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Pretty sure Qualcomm's S4 chips r A15 based, also being built with 28nm processing...that's where the difference is being seen. Smaller chips much more efficient in the end.
What's funny is Samsung is going to be showing off their new chips at MWC and they only went down to 32nm with A9 cores for the quad chip shown on engadget...
Thought it was a tad odd though Samsung only making it to 32nm while everyone else is pushing for 28nm and lower. Hell Intel stated they are shooting for 14nm at CES if i remember right! They will be one to keep an eye on in the long run. Imho
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I read in andtech that S4 is modified architecture with a performance between A9 and A15.still sounds awesome
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That video was impressive. But I don't like lg phones....
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That video was impressive. But I don't like lg phones....
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same here bro.i never trust LG
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I read in andtech that S4 is modified architecture with a performance between A9 and A15.still sounds awesome
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yeah your right to an extent but its NOT "between" them its inline with A15 if not better...the write up at anandtech.com about the new S4's benchmarking is really well done. As are their other write ups concerning the chip.
...Qualcomm, unlike most ARM chip makers, does not license the architecture for its application processors directly from ARM Holdings. Instead, it designs its own cores in-house and simply licenses the ARM instruction set. At the most basic level, Qualcomm’s Krait core is more advanced than Cortex-A9, the current standard from ARM, and it may even best the next-generation Cortex-A15 core....
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http://www.extremetech.com/computin...ragon-s4-has-the-competition-on-the-defensive
hey there, everyone had seen HTC one X, it got really great UI and design.
Our O2X is not bad at all, but maybe there is someone who can port ONE X desing for LG Optimus 2x. It would be great
Not getting another tegra phone, sticking with my o2x for a couple of years then moving to something thats properly supported.
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Not getting another tegra phone, sticking with my o2x for a couple of years then moving to something thats properly supported.
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I shall +1 to that, sir !
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WHY you both are making Off-topic and just don't answer a question?
Maybe it would be possible to make a theme, but I think the design is too much 2.2/2.3 for a 4.0 phone!
OT: I don't like the one x. The support will be bad and the new tegra games don't run fast enough on it. And I read in a few reviews, that the one x is sometimes a bit laggy because of late deactivation of the suspend core...
ONE X is like the O2X, HTC rushed it so that they'll be the first quadcore phone that is why the software is having lots of issues , and sense 4 is slow(reading reports from the one X users at XDA).
One s is the way to go! (':
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Various benchmarks are poorer of one x than dual core. May be it dint use all cores. And battery is too worst on quadcores
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Various benchmarks are poorer of one x than dual core. May be it dint use all cores. And battery is too worst on quadcores
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yes. i think it still uses a 42mn processor, combined with 4 cores. no full day use for most people D:
anyone hear about he Meizu MX? been reading about it, pricing is very attractive, new quad core A9 from samsung, 1.5gig, 1gig of ram. screen is right about the iphone 4s with 291ppi (dont quote my specs as i dont remember them all).
I'm thinking about it as an alternative, with pricing for the 32gig at around 425usd it's alot more attractive than the htc one x (priced above 550usd) and probably the SGS3 (when i comes out) will be priced similiar to HTC one x.
only issue is its only sold in china
Have both phones..
Not everything mentioned here is true..
After todays update, pretty much all lag is gone..
Antutu score above 11000
Camera is fantastic
All in all å good phone.. Just hope they will fix the batt drain.. Moderate use today is about 14-18 hours.. Standby drain is VERY good, but screen kills the batt..
Without using screen.. Only Standby, id bet the phone would manage 3-4 days
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Have both phones..
Not everything mentioned here is true..
After todays update, pretty much all lag is gone..
Antutu score above 11000
Camera is fantastic
All in all å good phone.. Just hope they will fix the batt drain.. Moderate use today is about 14-18 hours.. Standby drain is VERY good, but screen kills the batt..
Without using screen.. Only Standby, id bet the phone would manage 3-4 days
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Wow actually great battery life, cheers for the heads up
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I know I am. I really hope there is a good open hardware tablet soon...
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I know I am. I really hope there is a good open hardware tablet soon...
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Why what where you hoping for? An Intel i7??
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Why what where you hoping for? An Intel i7??
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no, something open, with full data-sheets available, and open source drivers, i can tell you first hand how bad proprietary drivers suck.
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I know I am. I really hope there is a good open hardware tablet soon...
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i am not into this topic right now but afaik there is no real open source hardware competitor on a tegra 3 level
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no, something open, with full data-sheets available, and open source drivers, i can tell you first hand how bad proprietary drivers suck.
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I see what you mean. But when your trying to copy the Kindle Fire and go main stream global, you need something that proven to work. IMHO at £160 its a big anouph gamble all ready.
No, the tegra 3 isn't as good as it should be, but for web surfing, a little gaming and movies and music, its more than enough. Quit griping. Lol
People always find something to complain about. Lol
OP the problem is the price. For $200 you need to go with the cheapest high end processor available, and apparently that is what Nvidia did with the Kai El project to put out speedy, low price tablets. Personally dual core is quick enough for me, plus I just bought a 7" tablet so...
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Yes, the tegra 3 isnt the best chip-set, but if they went with the snapdragon s4 they would have horrible supply issues, as there isnt enough s4's as it is. Also this was made by asus who has an existing relationship with nvida. Google has used this as a reference platform so it will be heavily optimized so performance shouldn't be an issue especially considering the screen resolution, keep in mind this is the same processor that runs the transformer prime at 1080p, without all the new gpu goodies. fyi all current tablets run tegra 3's
Sure let's put in the top of the line CPU that costs $1000 and try to sell it main stream against the Kindle Fire priced at $199.
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Sure let's put in the top of the line CPU that costs $1000 and try to sell it main stream against the Kindle Fire priced at $199.
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I'm not talking high end, I'm talking open hardware, like TI OMAP.
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So does this mean a non developer Nexus device? So does that mean no custom ROMs? No CM9? No kernel tweaks?
darkamikaze said:
So does this mean a non developer Nexus device? So does that mean no custom ROMs? No CM9? No kernel tweaks?
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Nah, it just means slower Dev updates after Google has given it up.
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GBGamer said:
I'm not talking high end, I'm talking open hardware, like TI OMAP.
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AFAIK TI OMAP4 is performance-wise inferior to Tegra 3 in nearly every aspect, it's not wise to limit flagman device(it's Nexus, after all) capabilities just to please indy ROM developers. Especially concerning the fact that Nexus 7 is tightly bound to Google Play to squeeze from grateful consumers as much money as possible .
So does this mean a non developer Nexus device?
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It surely is a developer device, but it's for application developers, not ROM makers, because ROMs are not profitable for Google, but apps are.
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AFAIK TI OMAP4 is performance-wise inferior to Tegra 3 in nearly every aspect, it's not wise to limit flagman device(it's Nexus, after all) capabilities just to please indy ROM developers. Especially concerning the fact that Nexus 7 is tightly bound to Google Play to squeeze from grateful consumers as much money as possible .
It surely is a developer device, but it's for application developers, not ROM makers, because ROMs are not profitable for Google, apps are.
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Yea, that's why I'm hoping for a tablet with quad core OMAP5
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My opinion tegra 3 is the best CPU+GPU combo until the s4 quad core. I have a tegra 3 on my one x and hardly any lag whatsoever. Games look amazing, and amazing standby times. Maybe the nexus 7 will force nvidia to release drivers ect because of the demand
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tegra3 optimized games are by far the best Android games around. Tegra3 is no slouch, CPU or gpu wise. there will be no issues with custom roms. One X has a ton of custom roms/kernels. Prime has alot of roms also. I'm sure Nexus 7 will be far more popular than either of them.
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Yea, that's why I'm hoping for a tablet with quad core OMAP5
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For $199 ? And they don't arrive until Q3/Q4.
For 200$ hell no I'm not disappointed
Stop complaining about everything!!!
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I <3 Tegra. Got a Tegra phone and tegra tsblet... so gonna get the N7. I don't see what the problem is. Its very fast and good for gaming from the TegraZone
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The Tegra 3 is actually a pretty powerful chipset. Think it's tainted a bit by being the 'child' of the Tegra 2, which was not as great as we hoped it would be. Combined with some of the performance improvements in Jelly Bean I expect this device to fly.