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With so many horror stories being posted, I don't know what to believe. When will it be relatively safe for us to update to ics?
I came from an HD2, and that was a treasure for flashing different roms. But it seems like the note is so easy to brick.
Edit: All I've done so far is root my note using Dr. Ketan's method.
It's mainly horror stories. Dozens, if not more already flashed to ICS without any problems. Of course there is occasionaly someone with bad luck, but that is also on the OTA updates. Every now and again something goes wrong, but it's a small chance and usually you are still able to fix it afterwards.
So just stick closely to the manual, don't cut corners and you'll probably be okay.
Otherwise, just wait for the OTAs. That's what I'm doing, but that is mainly because I'm a little lazy. However when I got the ICS kernel I'll put vanilla ICS over it.
I've flashed dozends of ROMs on my old HTC desire including ICS. At the end it worked always fine.
1. Backup
2. Wait after flashing - some roms need their time. After 10 min I've sometimes put out the battery to restart...
3. Enjoy
So don't fear!
I'm waiting for ICS OTA also. There have been lots of mixed reports with the previously leaked ICS ROMS - some bricked and some not. I've had a great run with flashing GB ROMs and Kernels but will wait for more official versions.
BTW - A colleague has a Note about four weeks old bought via the web. It turned out to be a German handset and he was successfully able to flash via KIES. I'm jealous - my Note 6 months old and I am still waiting for official ICS !
If you dont have any crazy combination of rom with custom kernel and cwm then is fine
Just dont wipe before flashing
And wipe after flashing
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The fact that we have had ANY bricks at all suggests to me that this is not safe to flash, and even though I have been able to successfully flash LPY and run it, (not without problems), the bit that concerns me is the bricking due to large file copying which has been mentioned by various people.
Since I regularly copy large files to and from the device, I do not plan to subject my device to testing the theory.
I flashed ics yesterday and everything went fine, Iam always paranoid when comes to flashing but research before actual flash is vital! SEARCH button overheats and Iam ALWAYS following instructions!
Dont know what would I do without xda and those so capaple devs!
Galaxy Note!!!
I have flashed LPY a total of 3 times so far without any problems. I have wiped/deleted cache etc etc. The Bricks are all related to modified kernels and CWM. If you you use the stock LPY kernel then all will be fine.
I have also flashed CM9 several times and had no issues what so ever.
If you need root on LPY best method is to flash a GB rom and get root, then use mobile odin with the everoot option to flash LPY.
DO NOT flash the CF Root kernel, This is where problems may start. Keep it Stock and all should be fine.
nandihno said:
Just dont wipe before flashing
And wipe after flashing
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Why is it safe to wipe after flashing and not before? I thought it was the other way around?
neos_83 said:
Why is it safe to wipe after flashing and not before? I thought it was the other way around?
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It is the other way around.
Anyway, I fear this might be another superbrick in the making...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653290
And another one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649982
vetchems said:
I have flashed LPY a total of 3 times so far without any problems. I have wiped/deleted cache etc etc. The Bricks are all related to modified kernels and CWM. If you you use the stock LPY kernel then all will be fine.
I have also flashed CM9 several times and had no issues what so ever.
If you need root on LPY best method is to flash a GB rom and get root, then use mobile odin with the everoot option to flash LPY.
DO NOT flash the CF Root kernel, This is where problems may start. Keep it Stock and all should be fine.
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This is exactly what I did...
Mobile Odin Pro inject SuperSU and everroot......NO CF ROOT had a good GB ROM and Kernel. Only wipe done was done by Mobile Odin Pro
No I am 100% stock IPY with root...The fun will start when I begin flashing custom ROMS. Will need to flash CWR for that.
to answer the original question... no... because i thoroughly read as much as i can find before i flash anything...even google it to see if there are problems ... hence i have ics rumming and running without any strange issues...
tbong777 said:
This is exactly what I did...
Mobile Odin Pro inject SuperSU and everroot......NO CF ROOT had a good GB ROM and Kernel. Only wipe done was done by Mobile Odin Pro
No I am 100% stock IPY with root...The fun will start when I begin flashing custom ROMS. Will need to flash CWR for that.
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I decided I did not want to "tip toe" around my normal processes with this device and went ahead and flashed CF Root with CWM. Going to need CWM to flash Roms and the LPY kernel has nt proven to be all that safe either. There is at least one case of a Superbrick wiping from Stock Recovery.
I bought these devices to mess with. I have a back up S2 and the s3 is out....Worst that can happen is I sell for parts.
well i am lucky so far as i dint have any issue with my note even after flashing lpy somany times from cwm may b me lucky till now
I'm terrified of flashing any roms on now after all the horror stories. I honestly don't even really care if I have ICS. I just hate how slow the stock ROM is. I would be very very happy with CM7 with SPen functionality.
This kind of sucks coming from an LG G2X which had so many stable roms and kernals to choose from
I thought a Samsung phone would have had even more but I guess not.
Probably like everyone else, I read Entropy's thread and became SUPER paranoid. He said there's no way to tell if you're slowly degrading the emmc or not unless you're on a 100% safe kernel / rom. I'm confused about the rest of the details. Apparently cm9 is 100% safe, but even the official ics can brick our note if we still have reminants of a leaked ics rom / kernel?
People alot more knowledgable than me have been bricking their note, so I will wait for an idiot proof method.
I would luv to see a step by step guide on video.
Also still dont grasp the fact that even if we put an official ics from Germany will won't get upgrades.
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I've been using lpy since release, and although I've had no problems so far, don't have cwm just root, but the more posts IM reading about people experiencing bricks from many different methods is definitively scaring me.
Chasmodo is a very reputable developer as is Entropy. I heed their words and will flash back to GB today, it's just not worth the risk.
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Thijsvr said:
It's mainly horror stories. Dozens, if not more already flashed to ICS without any problems. Of course there is occasionaly someone with bad luck, but that is also on the OTA updates. Every now and again something goes wrong, but it's a small chance and usually you are still able to fix it afterwards.
So just stick closely to the manual, don't cut corners and you'll probably be okay.
Otherwise, just wait for the OTAs. That's what I'm doing, but that is mainly because I'm a little lazy. However when I got the ICS kernel I'll put vanilla ICS over it.
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I also initially thought it was all speculation and anecdotal evidence. However, it appears that at least one user who has upgraded a brand new Note via Kies to LPY and wiped immediately thereafter has bricked his device.
That being said, I updated via PC Odin, rooted with temp CWM and full wiped from stock recovery thereafter without any issues (so far, been 3-4 days now). The performance improvements that ICS brings are significant, IMHO.
Basically, update if you really want to and refrain from wiping if possible (i.e. if you are not facing any FCs etc).
So..
I've been playing around for a while with kernels, ROM's and so on... And I've made a decision to return the beast to it's virgin state..
Intentions are as follows;
- Flash Stock GB Firmware (Via PC Odin)
- Format internal / External SD
- Wipe cache / Dalvik
- Update to ICS 4.0.3 (Probably just do it OTA or I have the Odin file)
- Root
- Install Mobile Odin
- Install preferred kernel
From the above, Anyone have any additional advices?
Cheers
you missed out the biggest one, Factory reset :silly: lol
Obviously you just forgot to add it in
But other than that, That sounds spot on ! thats exactly the same procedure I do except reverting to GB you could just wipe on a safe kernel
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you missed out the biggest one, Factory reset :silly: lol
Obviously you just forgot to add it in
But other than that, That sounds spot on ! thats exactly the same procedure I do except reverting to GB you could just wipe on a safe kernel
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I still find it hard to believe there are such things, even the kernel devs hesitantly use the term "SHOULD" ..
And yep, Factory reset should have been included
I dont follow ??
Anyway, Safety is the main thing and if you feel safer reverting to GB then thats fine, it only takes <10mins to flash and could be the difference between a clean note and a bricked note
ive wiped lots of times on my current kernel so i know it to be safe.
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I dont follow ??
Anyway, Safety is the main thing and if you feel safer reverting to GB then thats fine, it only takes <10mins to flash and could be the difference between a clean note and a bricked note
ive wiped lots of times on my current kernel so i know it to be safe.
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You still running NoteCore?
I've got SpeedMod K3-9 installed on the ICS build at the moment but as you say - it's not an epic task and for super safety I'm happier wiping and formatting in GB...
I was until about 5 mins ago lol, Im just in the middle of flashing Staxxtanium
I just fancy a change lol its been a while, no doubt il be back to cleanote tomorrow but i have to satisfy the cravings
azzledazzle said:
I was until about 5 mins ago lol, Im just in the middle of flashing Staxxtanium
I just fancy a change lol its been a while, no doubt il be back to cleanote tomorrow but i have to satisfy the cravings
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I was looking at that myself after dabbling in the PA World.. let me know what you think..
I sure will !
I really liked PA, But i was new to the Note at the time and liked the S-Pen features and apps, Now i dont really use them as much but only stayed with CleaNote to support the dev (im loyal like that )
But i get these urges to flash (in more ways than one ) and i havent flashed anything except a kernel for a few days now.
OK ran in to an issue - is standard recovery there's no format options available...hmmm
Maybe flash Abyss?
Ahh.. that's right, it's in settings ^o)
yeah flash abyss or any other CWM containing kernel, The stock one is a bag of sh!te
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yeah flash abyss or any other CWM containing kernel, The stock one is a bag of sh!te
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Managed to clear the storage int/ext from settings so will set off on the root to gettin back to where I was..Just without SpeedMod K3-9 as Wi-Fi is unstable on that..
JBroid
Question re: Jbroid Kernel cleaning script..
- Is it worth running following the above?
- If so, can I run it under ICS ( Flash Abyss > Jbroid > Flash Kernel of choice > Reboot)?
Well that went well..
Now jus need to figure out a kernel and I'm "Back in the game"
Ever since I bricked my phone and revived it with just a little bit over 8GB, rooting and running Jellybean Ultimate 5.1 Android 4.1.2 has never been a good experience. I followed all the instructions given by others such as formatting factory reset, cache, system, data, preload, and so forth, except formatting the emmc before flashing the Jellybean ROM, but it will work for a while then the upper right corner will be hot and then force-closes either itself or with an application freezing. I don't know my explanation is good enough, but it's been painful to flash jellybean, but it closed itself and never woke up until I reflash it or just PC Odin it with the original ICS. Any idea please.
Brick revived phones struggle to run stock roms as they are huge. try a slim rom like CM9,CM10 (try slim bean)
Wondering how to run the Jellybean.
That's probably right, but the ICS stock roms are still the same size as Jellybean. At first, it is smooth like liquid, but then I can never start it up again from its force-close. After having tried the Ultimate Jellybean XXLSC 5.1, being back on ICS is just so boring. Even games like Asphalt 7 runs smoother on Jellybean too. But like I said it closes itself after using it a while. If you guys have any tip instead of having to try CMs because CM is the one that I had my device bricked even with safe Kernal on it, please let me know. I really want the stable Jellybean that won't close itself and that I can always restart again. Or I am stuck with slow boring ICS. By the way, I use SD card to store all the big programs.
nokiamodeln91 said:
Brick revived phones struggle to run stock roms as they are huge. try a slim rom like CM9,CM10 (try slim bean)
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Try this...
Download a Gingerbread ROM from Dr. Ketan's Thread.
Flash it using PC-ODIN.
Then install an ICS ROM (try Kingdroid). Do a factory reset.
Then you can follow all instructions mentioned on the OP of Ultimate JB ROM v5.1.
I had bricked my NOTE a few weeks back by mistake. I tried lots of things to go back to JB Roms....But kept getting stuckat some point or the other. Then finally I started with Gingerbread, then went to ICS and then to Ultimate JB ROM.
All is fine now
Just my 2 cents
Hi Folks
Im a new proud owner of a Note, just got it today and loving it so far, waiting for JB in March though .
Ive checked and my Note has the "YES insane chip", however, i only flash Stock roms through odin and use Stock recovery after each flash, so am I right in reading that its only custom ROMS and Kernels that can brick it, so I never have to worry about it bricking or is there something i should be careful of when flashing stock roms as well.
Thanks
No, if you wipe your data through a factory reset there is a high chance in bricking the device.
XxPixX said:
No, if you wipe your data through a factory reset there is a high chance in bricking the device.
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Oh.. wow, how can Sammy release hardware like this then, thats pretty bad. I take it the New S3s and Note 2s dont have thiese chips then.
Cheers
Samsung claims, that recent stock recoveries are safe, no one knows for sure if that's true.
If you want to be absolutely safe, use a recent custom kernel, those are known to be safe, since they completely disable the broken erase function.
guv. said:
Samsung claims, that recent stock recoveries are safe, no one knows for sure if that's true.
If you want to be absolutely safe, use a recent custom kernel, those are known to be safe, since they completely disable the broken erase function.
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I did a factory reset > wipe Cache earlier and it booted ok thankfully. Im on UK XXLRK 404 (July 2012) so how recent do Samsung mean, but it seems to be on all 404 Roms (s2/Note), but thanks for the heads up... can I just say though that I would Never "Factory Reset" through Settings because im not sure if it wipes the cache or does much really, also the next and only update ill be doing will be JB 412 in March, if it arrives
Cheers
Can I just ask, when JB comes out in a few weeks, would you recommend to flash a safe kernel first, then update to JB.. or because Im Updating, should I just flash straight to stock JB in ODIN, then reset through Stock Recovery.
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Also, Im new to this device so could anyone recommend a safe fast kernel to use with a stock 404 Rom.. Unrooted
Thanks
speedmod, Philz, hydracore.. all are safe
if you are not rooted then update via kies. or via odin.. dont do reset in stock recovery of ICS... or JB yet as not yet confirmed safe.. may be after the sources come out.. one of the devs can confirm it
I was trying my hands on ubuntu from paranoid, but flashed ics, and mistakely i didnt wipe anything before flashing,so i did wipe on ics kernel, so it was stuck on bootloop ,but i could enter recovery and download. so i first flashed philz kernel and did a wipe and downgraded to gb. So i want to know is this the emmc brick bug or a soft brick..
so if your phone is working you were lucky..
nokiamodeln91 said:
so if your phone is working you were lucky..
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Ya my phone is working but what kind of brick was this. i have read about emmc brick bug but couldnt get what is it.
A soft brick
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Hi,
I own a Galaxy Note GT-N7000.
I never rooted it, just used two official updates provided by Samsung and then flashed the original 4.1.2 using Odin.
I have rooted my older Android phones (San Francisco) and used to try all kinds of ROM's on many Windows Mobile phones - I am not a exactly a noob, I just did not mess with my Note, because I am happy with it just like it is and because it is my work phone, which needs to be 100% working.
However, battery life is getting shorter (so I just ordered a new original Samsung battery) and, worse, the phone is getting more and more unresponsive.
This is the real problem: whenever I want to do something, it takes like 1-2 seconds, if not longer, before the phone reacts. This is very annoying. I don't have that many apps installed (I just stick with my preferred ones, instead of betting on sheer quantity). Still, the other day, the phone complained that there is no free space to install upgrades of some apps.
To make it short: how can I install a clean original 4.1.2 as if my phone was just purchased, i.e. with a clean flash?
Before you flame me and tell me I should spend the next month reading the forum: I already did!
I am afraid of the brick bug, so I guess that doing a wipe of the flash is not an option, as i guess that the bug has not been fixed by Samsung on 4.1.2. On the other hand, I do not want to root my phone, to install some custom kernel, to then wipe the flash and revert to the official ROM, risking to activate the counter, etc. Not that I don't know my way around flashing, soldering, building the flash dongle or even JTAG - I just don't have the time and nerve.
So my simple question: How do I securely wipe the flash and install a clean official 4.1.2 ROM on my phone, getting rind of 2 years of garbage files and God knows what else is slowing down my phone.
Many thanks for those guiding my way - I don't want to believe that there is a planned obsolescence in course, like Samsung building a timer that makes the phone get slower and slower...
Cheers,
vma
If you really want to enjoy the speed of your phone, IMO, you should go ahead and try CM /AOSP roms. They will give you some time out of the "slowness".
Just saying. On the other had if you want to be on the stock TW 4.1.2 rom, then doing a factory reset from the recovery will do the job. JB kernels for 4.1.2 seems to be safe to do a reset as there has not been cases of bricking on stock JB kernel.
But what my method would be to...
1. Install Philz kernel for JB using recovery and boot into recovery again... to get CWM recovery this time
2. Choose wipe data/factory reset ----> Clean for new rom install. (this will delete the current rom, data and cache)
3. Mounts and Storage -> Format Internal storage.
4. Mount USB storage and connect to PC... delete all files
5. Go to advanced menu and choose reboot download.
6. connect to PC and flash stock rom JB using odin,
Thanks for your reply.
However, you say:
nokiamodeln91 said:
On the other had if you want to be on the stock TW 4.1.2 rom, then doing a factory reset from the recovery will do the job. JB kernels for 4.1.2 seems to be safe to do a reset as there has not been cases of bricking on stock JB kernel.
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While in another post it says:
"Warning :
Don't wipe anything from stock ICS recovery
Don't factory reset/Hard reset on stock ICS.
Don't flash any Wipe version of ICS ROM"
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997)
This is what I don't get... Is it safe or not? Does this warning only apply to ICS, while JB is safe?
Cheers,
vma
Its applies only to ICS stock kernels. There is no evidence to prove that JB is safe. but Samsung seems to have suppressed the bug on JB kernels.
nokiamodeln91 said:
Its applies only to ICS stock kernels. There is no evidence to prove that JB is safe. but Samsung seems to have suppressed the bug on JB kernels.
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Thank you for your kind help!
I will probably work on my Note this weekend.
Cheers,
vma