[Q] Sms Character limit from 160 to 70 - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi people, i have a problem with my Note.
I just tried to send my first message after my note returned from service. I added my language(Greek) and i noticed a very very annoying issue.
When i write the second character of my sms the 160 character limit reduces to 70.
Does anyone know what the hell is wrong? I have seen this issue before on a different phone, but with my note i never had this issue until now.

Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
Hi people, i have a problem with my Note.
I just tried to send my first message after my note returned from service. I added my language(Greek) and i noticed a very very annoying issue.
When i write the second character of my sms the 160 character limit reduces to 70.
Does anyone know what the hell is wrong? I have seen this issue before on a different phone, but with my note i never had this issue until now.
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You are probablly using some greek character o something like that which is reducing the limit. It is the same when I'm usin polish letters like: "ś" or "ć"

I found the culprit!
My firmware is czech, so i figure it must be some sort of setting.
I read on the internet that encoding of the letters is what occupies more space and this gave me an idea.
i went to sms app, pushed the menu soft button and entered "settings", then i went to "input mode" and checked the setting, it was on automatic.
I tinkered a little bit and i finally changed the setting from automatic to "GSM alphabet".
Problem solved.

Good that it's solved but I had a same problem when I was using BlackBerry Curve 9300. Each message could only contain just 70 characters. It was annoying as 'you know what'!
Sold my curve, got a S2, lost it in 9 days!

Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
I found the culprit!
My firmware is czech, so i figure it must be some sort of setting.
I read on the internet that encoding of the letters is what occupies more space and this gave me an idea.
i went to sms app, pushed the menu soft button and entered "settings", then i went to "input mode" and checked the setting, it was on automatic.
I tinkered a little bit and i finally changed the setting from automatic to "GSM alphabet".
Problem solved.
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Hey thank you.
Thanks for coming back and writing a reply to your own thread too btw. So many people don't do this, they just go "Oh well found what the problem is" and then just leave it at that. Thread dies.
I put in the search (always search before posting) and you just saved me a lot of time of decompiling and recompiling and app

Another Fix
install GO SMS Pro,
go to GO SMS Pro settings --> Advanced --> Send&Receive Settings --> scroll down --> select Split large messages check box --> scroll down --> Select Enable customized SMSC --> Customized SMSC number --> enter your service providers SMSC number.
you can find SMSC numbers for operators in the following link
http://www.ozeki.hu/index.phtml?ow_page_number=458

thilina01 said:
install GO SMS Pro,
go to GO SMS Pro settings --> Advanced --> Send&Receive Settings --> scroll down --> select Split large messages check box --> scroll down --> Select Enable customized SMSC --> Customized SMSC number --> enter your service providers SMSC number.
you can find SMSC numbers for operators in the following link
http://www.ozeki.hu/index.phtml?ow_page_number=458
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It does split the large SMS in chunks but those chunks again consists of 160 character. There is no way to set to to be split in 80 character chunks

It is not about the characters. Its about Korean phone SMS limit on GSM. It must be done within the ROM. GoSMS or any app will not be able to bypass the system's limit

The best advice I can give is change your language to English-United States, i once had this issue in xxltc rom.. I don;t know which english(country I chose) but language does seem to increase the word count!

Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
I found the culprit!
My firmware is czech, so i figure it must be some sort of setting.
I read on the internet that encoding of the letters is what occupies more space and this gave me an idea.
i went to sms app, pushed the menu soft button and entered "settings", then i went to "input mode" and checked the setting, it was on automatic.
I tinkered a little bit and i finally changed the setting from automatic to "GSM alphabet".
Problem solved.
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problem solved indeed! except now greek are stuck in CAPS mode and cannot change it no matter what. Grrrrrr samsung xcover 2 and android 4.1.2 JB......any other ideas?

It's an encoding problem
The message size limit for sms is 140 (8-bit) bytes. Normal encoding is a modified 7-bit ASCII ('English'). If you do the math, that gives you the regular 160 character limit. Some less common ASCII characters get encoded as two 7-bit characters.
Outside of that, your ENTIRE message is encoded as 16 bit Unicode.. thus the 70 character limit.
If your phone starts in Unicode, then you are stuck with the 70 character limit.
My phone starts in 7-bit mode and only switches to Unicode If I go outside the 7-bit character set, so I get 160 characters per message unless I use "weird" characters like "ç", "è" or "¤").

Related

SMS Application Scroll

When I open the Messaging => SMS application on my 8925 tilt (running
WM6) and then i open a message (e.g. the last unread one), the scroll
bar is always WAY far down, such that I can not see the actual
message but only white space. So the first thing I always need to do
after opening a message is scroll up to actually see the message. Most if not all of my SMS are 1 to 4 sentences max, which should not require a scroll bar to begin with...
anyway i have been dealing with it for a while now, but its getting a lil annoying now especially if i try to use the phone in 1 hand..
Does any1 know why this is happening? is there a fix?
Thanks
i think the issue is caused when a certain setting is enabled using KaiserTweak (search for this application on xda and download it)...
i can't recall the exact name of the setting but it was something like "DPAD support in Internet Explorer"...disable that setting and do a soft reset for good measure and i think your sms view will return to normal.
good luck!
Ur da man...that sure seems to have fixed the problem for now...thanks man!

Three problems with handcent

Wondering if any of this can be changed/disabled:
1. After voice inputting text, whole input is highlighted so if i press back but only one word was misspelled the entire input self-deletes.......
2. When attempting to correct text, I get this large annoying box with a "Tt" or something in it that looks like a font selection, I need it to go away.
3. when I voice input "gets" and it only shows up with "get", then I select the space where the "s" needs to be added and it suggests the entire word "gets".......so it looks like :
get|
gets|getting
and if i select the change it becomes
getgets
it's about as bad as it gets........any help on fixing these three issues would be greatly appreciated
I know this isn't going to be much help but I had the same annoyances with Handcent, so I switched to Go SMS...no major problems just small things that bother a person OCD but not a normal person lol
These problem might be keyboard base. I used Swype and didn't notice problem 2 and 3.
anyone else?
Damani311 said:
Wondering if any of this can be changed/disabled:
1. After voice inputting text, whole input is highlighted so if i press back but only one word was misspelled the entire input self-deletes.......
2. When attempting to correct text, I get this large annoying box with a "Tt" or something in it that looks like a font selection, I need it to go away.
3. when I voice input "gets" and it only shows up with "get", then I select the space where the "s" needs to be added and it suggests the entire word "gets".......so it looks like :
get|
gets|getting
and if i select the change it becomes
getgets
it's about as bad as it gets........any help on fixing these three issues would be greatly appreciated
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For 1 touch somewhere in the text to unselect everything and put the cursor where you want it.
2 the T box is a context menu for text editing: cut, copy, paste.
3 (on swype anyway thats all I use)select the word and double tap that will bring up the word choice window and selecting the correct word will replace it instead of just inserting it there with both of them.
Hope that helps...
Your best bet might be to ask in the Hancent forums. I also had a few issues with it so went to Go sms myself and am enjoying it alot.

[Q] How can I remove the 80 character limit on su660?

Hi I have upgraded my lg optimus 2x su660 to gingerbread but its limited to 80 characters even I use Go SMS.
How can I remove this limit?
Thanks,
Thomie
tjsas1 said:
Hi I have upgraded my lg optimus 2x su660 to gingerbread but its limited to 80 characters even I use Go SMS.
How can I remove this limit?
Thanks,
Thomie
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Over 80 characters is not SMS. It is MMS.
Use handcent.
I woudl ove an answer to this as well. In Korea the sms is limited to 80 characters then it becomes an sms. My korean SU660 is designed for a USIM but it accepts standard GSM sim. limit does not change with sim card change. My nokia had a 160 character limit as did my gsm samsung galaxy. I wihs i knew more about the coding for the SU660 so I coudl dig in and see if I could tweak the rom to allow for long sms. On another note if you are just texting friends and have dat on you can use Kakao talk (on android market) and send messgaes as long as you like. For me it is cheaper than a text message because I am always chatting with it.
Mike
I am new to xda...
I know this thread is 2 years old, but I really want to know the answer to this.
"How do I bypass / fix the 80 Characters Limitation on the LG Optimus 2X SU660?"
Do I have to upgrade the OS?
Do I have to change the Baseband?
What to do?
Thanks!
ParasoX said:
I am new to xda...
I know this thread is 2 years old, but I really want to know the answer to this.
"How do I bypass / fix the 80 Characters Limitation on the LG Optimus 2X SU660?"
Do I have to upgrade the OS?
Do I have to change the Baseband?
What to do?
Thanks!
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flash a P990 Stock or Custom ROM
check the SU660 development section for further instruction.
Edit: I accidentally pressed that "thanks" button LOL
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app
ParasoX said:
I am new to xda...
I know this thread is 2 years old, but I really want to know the answer to this.
"How do I bypass / fix the 80 Characters Limitation on the LG Optimus 2X SU660?"
Do I have to upgrade the OS?
Do I have to change the Baseband?
What to do?
Thanks!
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I have gotten past this. Once I rooted the phone using go sms as my default messaging service solved the issue. I did have to go into original SMS program and hard enter my phone number for the sent from part. You do not need to change the base band and I wouldnt upgrade unless you had a known working root option. The 80 character limit is because Korea uses UTF-8 and I have yet to find away to alter that. It seems to be the only option. I havent gone looking for custom roms for it as when I posted on here none were out. I have it working the way I want it to so really no need to mess with it on my end. Hope it helps
Another Fix
install GO SMS Pro,
go to GO SMS Pro settings --> Advanced --> Send&Receive Settings --> scroll down --> select Split large messages check box --> scroll down --> Select Enable customized SMSC --> Customized SMSC number --> enter your service providers SMSC number.
you can find SMSC numbers for operators in the following link
http://www.ozeki.hu/index.phtml?ow_page_number=458
tjsas1 said:
Hi I have upgraded my lg optimus 2x su660 to gingerbread but its limited to 80 characters even I use Go SMS.
How can I remove this limit?
Thanks,
Thomie
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i have the same problem as yours before. eventhough my phone is already rooted and made GO SMS PRO as my main messaging app, when i send more than 80 characs, my friends would tell me that my message is somehow not complete, and that causes me problem. so, what i did was to search for solution on net. and well, what solution i ONLY found was to ROOT my phone and FLASH a CUSTOM ROM. right now am using cm10 rom for su660, and right now, i can send completely messages with 160 characs.
thilina01 said:
install GO SMS Pro,
go to GO SMS Pro settings --> Advanced --> Send&Receive Settings --> scroll down --> select Split large messages check box --> scroll down --> Select Enable customized SMSC --> Customized SMSC number --> enter your service providers SMSC number.
you can find SMSC numbers for operators in the following link
http://www.ozeki.hu/index.phtml?ow_page_number=458
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If you are using any phone with Korean, Japanese, Czech etc... This trick never works. Its about android native sms system and not about the broadcasting limit

[APP] TrueDialer -[R]- 22 December -[U]- 22 December -[V]- 1.40

Name: TrueDialer
Hi everyone,
TrueDialer is a free and smarter T9 dialer app. With the app you can quickly find and call your friends by entering parts of their name in a T9 combination. With the latest version you will even be able to send them text messages.
But in addition to this, when calling a phone number not already in your phonebook TrueDialer will automatically search white and yellow pages worldwide and even let you opt-in to the enhanced phone number directory from TrueCaller. From there you can easily save your new friends number with name pre-filled straight to your phonebook.
We'd love to have your feedback on our new app, what do you think about it and what can we improve?
Tips:
-First start can take a few seconds since your contacts are loading, please be patient
-Double tapping on the input field will clear it so you can start a new search quickly
-You can enter the name in numbers starting from anywhere so if your looking for the contact "Andrew Hill" in your phonebook you can type 263 for "and" or even 455 for "ill".
Source: http://www.truedialer.com
Download Link: https://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/...0084e73?appType=Regular&purchaseFlowStart=App
thank you! i will test soon
Hello,
The app doesn't work with French Yellow/White pages. Have I missed something ?
Thank you.
Thanks. It looks promising, but unfortunately it doesn't work well on my HD2. I get Black square No response most of the time. When I type, names start to show, but disappear after some time with the black square and No response label.
I am on HD2O rom and use Exchange and Live Mail accounts. Contacts are synchronized with Exchange and Pushed on update.
EDIT (FIXED): If I am on wireless behind Firewall first time I install this app then it is behaving like described despite the enhanced search is turned off. But if then I go on Data connection (no wireless) it works! When the popup dialog asks if I want to use enhanced search or something and I click Cancel then it works even connected to wireless behind the firewall.
That is only a minor bug I guess but I got it the very first time I installed this app.
A few suggestions to make it better:
1. Make Contacts pics optional (turn on or off in settings) - it will look neater in a name list and possibly faster.
2. Make letters in names that match the typed number sequence in accent colour like the original dialer in search results - it is very handy and looks very pro.
3. Make numbers bigger and without the textbox frame. They should be at least font size used in name list for names. It is a search field, and people will type 5-6 numbers at most and not 25 or 30 like now.
4. When you type for a very brief moment I can see Searching online despite all online searching turned off. Is it a bug?
Hope this helps... It is a very good app. Thanks again.
pepelepieux said:
Hello,
The app doesn't work with French Yellow/White pages. Have I missed something ?
Thank you.
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Do you have an example of a number you're looking for?
ikovac said:
Thanks. It looks promising, but unfortunately it doesn't work well on my HD2. I get Black square No response most of the time. When I type, names start to show, but disappear after some time with the black square and No response label.
I am on HD2O rom and use Exchange and Live Mail accounts. Contacts are synchronized with Exchange and Pushed on update.
EDIT (FIXED): If I am on wireless behind Firewall first time I install this app then it is behaving like described despite the enhanced search is turned off. But if then I go on Data connection (no wireless) it works! When the popup dialog asks if I want to use enhanced search or something and I click Cancel then it works even connected to wireless behind the firewall.
That is only a minor bug I guess but I got it the very first time I installed this app.
A few suggestions to make it better:
1. Make Contacts pics optional (turn on or off in settings) - it will look neater in a name list and possibly faster.
2. Make letters in names that match the typed number sequence in accent colour like the original dialer in search results - it is very handy and looks very pro.
3. Make numbers bigger and without the textbox frame. They should be at least font size used in name list for names. It is a search field, and people will type 5-6 numbers at most and not 25 or 30 like now.
4. When you type for a very brief moment I can see Searching online despite all online searching turned off. Is it a bug?
Hope this helps... It is a very good app. Thanks again.
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Hi there and thank you for your suggestions!
1. Coming in the next update!
2. Also on the way!
3. The reason this is a textbox is because some users want to be able to paste a number to search for, a action that is currently not possible without a textbox. But I'll make the text size bigger in the next update!
4. The application can search online even though you have enhanced search off. The difference is that it will then only search in public white/yellow pages directories which are very limited in quality.
namiran said:
Hi there and thank you for your suggestions!
1. Coming in the next update!
2. Also on the way!
3. The reason this is a textbox is because some users want to be able to paste a number to search for, a action that is currently not possible without a textbox. But I'll make the text size bigger in the next update!
4. The application can search online even though you have enhanced search off. The difference is that it will then only search in public white/yellow pages directories which are very limited in quality.
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Great!
4. So it is a T9 dialer WITH online Phonebook search at all times.
I would prefer a T9 dialer WITH OR WITHOUT online Phonebook search at all times.
A couple of reasons:
a) Truecaller doesn't work for all countries. I couldn't find anything for any of my contacts. So it is actually useless for the most of the time.
b) Some people don't want data connection at all times or have no data connection or want to minimize costs and need only t9 dialer. Roaming for example?
c) Perhaps it is even faster without an online connection?
d) Just to make some people happier with a setting to disable all data connections?
Cheers!
Please add a unread call counter and mobile operator indicator into the tile (as the original windows phone 7 telephone live tile): I would like to use TrueDialer to replace completely the MS one
Sent from my Lumia 800 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
TCAD said:
Do you have an example of a number you're looking for?
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Try this number for instance
http://www.pagesjaunes.fr/pagesblan...iption=1&autresCoords=false&grandeCarte=false
Petit Delphine
32 r Lehot
92600 ASNIERES SUR SEINE
01 55 02 09 11
Thank you
One Small Bug :
Even if I press cancel when it prompts to initiate a call, it gets listed in History. This happens even when I tap an item in history.
ikovac said:
Great!
4. So it is a T9 dialer WITH online Phonebook search at all times.
I would prefer a T9 dialer WITH OR WITHOUT online Phonebook search at all times.
A couple of reasons:
a) Truecaller doesn't work for all countries. I couldn't find anything for any of my contacts. So it is actually useless for the most of the time.
b) Some people don't want data connection at all times or have no data connection or want to minimize costs and need only t9 dialer. Roaming for example?
c) Perhaps it is even faster without an online connection?
d) Just to make some people happier with a setting to disable all data connections?
Cheers!
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Haha ok, will consider this in the next update!
heavyhms said:
Please add a unread call counter and mobile operator indicator into the tile (as the original windows phone 7 telephone live tile): I would like to use TrueDialer to replace completely the MS one
Sent from my Lumia 800 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Will add the current mobile operator, however I am not sure how reliable this can be as the local tiles are only updated once every half hour.
Regarding the unread call counter, this is currently not possible because of limitations within the WP7 API platform.
wpxbox said:
One Small Bug :
Even if I press cancel when it prompts to initiate a call, it gets listed in History. This happens even when I tap an item in history.
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Windows Phone doesn't return information on if the user actually did press call or not which is why you see it added to the history list even if you didn't answer. I'm sure this will be fixed in future versions of WP7 and we'll of course update TrueDialer then!

[Q] SMS only 70 characters?

When im typing sms it splits messages at 70 characters. I use only english letters, so no special characters. There is no option for changing encoding... does anyone have solution for this?
it seems that capital letters are responible for that...
Using the graphical smileys often seems to be the root cause for that problem. What keyboard language are you using? Perhaps that keyboard layout uses letters that are rendered similar to the ASCII ones but they actually are different unicode characters (e.g. kyrillic).
StevieBallz said:
Using the graphical smileys often seems to be the root cause for that problem. What keyboard language are you using? Perhaps that keyboard layout uses letters that are rendered similar to the ASCII ones but they actually are different unicode characters (e.g. kyrillic).
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US keyboard, and no smileys... i'v wrote 2 same messages, one with all small letters (everything ok, 160 char.) and one normal (this is when it splits messages at 70 char.).
"In this case it splits messages at 70 char. And im going crazy!"
"in this case everything is just fine. all 160 char can be used for sms."
Is there any solution how to fix this problem to use all standard characters and have 160 characters?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Check with your network provider- in some cases your provider will restrict the lenght of SMS/text msgs.
tangra06 said:
Check with your network provider- in some cases your provider will restrict the lenght of SMS/text msgs.
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provider is not problem here. i have just call them. its the phone... :/
I noticed too that the number of character was small and I think that it's because of capital letter being rendered by using some special ascii-like character which takes way more than one character. But since we all have unlimited texts in my country, I don't really give a ef about it. But I just wanted to let you know that you're definately not alone.
Using the French and the English (US) keyboard.
Sounds like something is causing the phone to want to switch the encoding to Unicode. What are your regional settings?
Also, do you have the Nokia-specific Network+ setting? What is the SMS charset set to?
tai4de2 said:
Sounds like something is causing the phone to want to switch the encoding to Unicode. What are your regional settings?
Also, do you have the Nokia-specific Network+ setting? What is the SMS charset set to?
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I agree
Hmmm...
I have a Verizon HTC 8X and it say xxx of 160 when I get close.
Then it says of 320 when I go over.
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