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May i know whats you guys free memory i am experiencing smoother and lag free when its on below 60% is there anyway to go lower?

Not really as the phone itself has a memory leakage problem....you can try flashing to other roms if you like but the simple fact is the phone will still leak memory. We really need a rom that will fix it properly but for the time being i dont think anyone has been able to completely stop the mem leakage.

phoby said:
May i know whats you guys free memory i am experiencing smoother and lag free when its on below 60% is there anyway to go lower?
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Great ive been seeking the same. I just close and open all the time no backgorund running of any kind. Maybe a compress memory function. I totally agree on the smother running with free mem.
cheers boys!

phoby said:
May i know whats you guys free memory i am experiencing smoother and lag free when its on below 60% is there anyway to go lower?
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yup noticed same, when below 60% ram usage TF3d is smooth as silk.

[Q] about Galaxy Mini RAM Processing

Hi Guys
I have a few question about our device RAM
1. What are you doing if your device get lagging or slow down?
- Kill App using Taks Killer to refresh your RAM?
- Just Reboot the device to reset your RAM?
- Leave your device (LOL)
- what about you? have an opinions?
My Device get slow down while browsing after >20Min, I think the reason because the RAM goes down or less than 25MB.
then my device got freeze and reboot automatically.
I hear an issue about task killer app thats bad for our system.
so I'm using app like RAM Manager or Watchdog.
2. How much RAM are you running to get stable?
My device at startup have remaining about 100~125MB RAM.
and after a few hour its goes down about <70MB.
while browsing its about <50MB. this is normal?
how about you?
I'm Running CM9 (ICS 4.0.4) right now.
Its very stable, but goes crazy after RAM run under 50MB.
I'm need your opinion guys to make RAM more batter.
Thanks for your advice.
Sorry for my bad English.

Quick reply : use a RAM/performance optimizer like adrenaline engine or another script... Uninstall others RAM manager and let me know (you find it in developing section)
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If you are using AOKP, in performance settings there is low memory value, try adjusting it.

Never ever 'clear' your RAM, it will worsen your battery. Android is capable by managing the RAM by itself if it gets high. So there is no question whether the RAM meter would blow if it gets full. Read more : Article by Lifehacker

simonekamikaze said:
Quick reply : use a RAM/performance optimizer like adrenaline engine or another script... Uninstall others RAM manager and let me know (you find it in developing section)
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Hmm, I'll try to using some script like thats.
I never try it before cause ICS compatible, I'll try if you said so
TheWhisp said:
If you are using AOKP, in performance settings there is low memory value, try adjusting it.
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Thanks Again Whisp
I'll try the perfomance
coolsandie said:
Never ever 'clear' your RAM, it will worsen your battery. Android is capable by managing the RAM by itself if it gets high. So there is no question whether the RAM meter would blow if it gets full. Read more : Article by Lifehacker
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yeah, I know that. Thats way I using RAM Manager not using Task Killer App.
I tried to believe my device can control RAM it self, but in the fact after a few hour my device got freezing then reboot its self (This problem often encountered when browsing)
Thanks for the Advice guys,
I think the most problem it from our device it self, you know this is Low Device right?
so I cant expect much about the device
but I'll try to find for the best RAM tweak/setting.
Sorry about my bad English

ichaloned said:
Hi Guys
I have a few question about our device RAM
1. What are you doing if your device get lagging or slow down?
- Kill App using Taks Killer to refresh your RAM?
- Just Reboot the device to reset your RAM?
- Leave your device (LOL)
- what about you? have an opinions?
My Device get slow down while browsing after >20Min, I think the reason because the RAM goes down or less than 25MB.
then my device got freeze and reboot automatically.
I hear an issue about task killer app thats bad for our system.
so I'm using app like RAM Manager or Watchdog.
2. How much RAM are you running to get stable?
My device at startup have remaining about 100~125MB RAM.
and after a few hour its goes down about <70MB.
while browsing its about <50MB. this is normal?
how about you?
I'm Running CM9 (ICS 4.0.4) right now.
Its very stable, but goes crazy after RAM run under 50MB.
I'm need your opinion guys to make RAM more batter.
Thanks for your advice.
Sorry for my bad English.
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To be honest...my device never slows down.

I suggest adjusting the ram values a little higher but not too high. Like with the visible and foreground one might freeze ur phone . Play with it.
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KoperKiller said:
To be honest...my device never slows down.
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Can you share, what app are you using?
a GB or ICS user are you?
GB are more stable than ICS
If my phone just standby is very stable, if just use for like messaging, FB, chatting or similliar like that.
but if you go browsing for >20Min, I think you can feel it.
musashihatred said:
I suggest adjusting the ram values a little higher but not too high. Like with the visible and foreground one might freeze ur phone . Play with it.
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Adjusting the RAM values?
how can I adjusting the RAM values
sorry for my bad english

Try out the V6 SuperCharger script by zeppelinrox, my phone flies with it and you can adjust min memory and other values how you want Definately give it a try!

domcale said:
Try out the V6 SuperCharger script by zeppelinrox, my phone flies with it and you can adjust min memory and other values how you want Definately give it a try!
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it sounds promising
but the method will takes so long
I'll try, thanks for advice.
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oh WTH, my eyes starting throw out the tears while read that intruction.
this will takes long time. thats different while using ICS oh my .....

Trust me, it's worth it, and it does not take that much time even if you find yourself unhappy with the script

Just use swapped from android market and set swap value 250-300 and reboot you will surely.see.the.difference.
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Swap slowes down your phone...

domcale said:
Swap slowes down your phone...
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Installing SuperCharger on ICS done
SuperCharged 100% :victory:
Installing the SuperCharger on ICS are different because su binary.
but now all is done
I dont know about difference, I'll test it now domcale
On progress :
"Optimizing Application ....."
Thanks anyways

Ram ?

Hello, i bought the phone (used) a few days ago. it's great.
just wondering, there's a pretty low amount of available ram (~300-350 somtimes 400 after cleaning memory).
currently im running stock 4.1.2
so, if i will flash any cm rom or any other rom, will there be more ram available?
or that's it?
thanks in advance.

yoeleli said:
Hello, i bought the phone (used) a few days ago. it's great.
just wondering, there's a pretty low amount of available ram (~300-350 somtimes 400 after cleaning memory).
currently im running stock 4.1.2
so, if i will flash any cm rom or any other rom, will there be more ram available?
or that's it?
thanks in advance.
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why do you need more free ram? more free ram is useless, system uses ram to cache programes to start faster.

moneyvirus said:
why do you need more free ram? more free ram is useless, system uses ram to cache programes to start faster.
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Because it's frustrating to close apps\clean ram all the time. it would be nice to have about 50-100mb for extra free ram.

yoeleli said:
Hello, i bought the phone (used) a few days ago. it's great.
just wondering, there's a pretty low amount of available ram (~300-350 somtimes 400 after cleaning memory).
currently im running stock 4.1.2
so, if i will flash any cm rom or any other rom, will there be more ram available?
or that's it?
thanks in advance.
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that's it
moneyvirus told you right...
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Free RAM is wasted RAM... RAM is way faster that the usual storage. That's why the system preloads as many apps as possible, to start up directly, without loading too long. So, the more used RAM you have, the better. Linux is not Windows. Windows is known for its bad RAM management.
Also, 300Mb is quite a lot BTW regarding 1GB total RAM. Killing apps to "safe" memory is the worst thing you can do. Let the system decide what's needed and what's not.
Also, Questions belong into the Q&A section. Thread moved.

my friend , android works that way. it caches everything to ram so that is faster. you dont need more ram and of course u dont need any task manager to close the background apps. the system on its own knows when to free ram and use it somewhere else. if the case is u need to play a game which need more available ram than the phone can have ( for example lets say the phone needs at least 200 ram for the basic system functions so u have available 800 ram and the game needs 1gb ram then thats another case.) u can install swapper to use some disk space to do what ram does. thats all. but if u dont need or play such game then no need for swapper , no need to clear cache and no need to close background apps. if u think u will get more battery life like that , its also wrong. there is another way to get battery life. thats all. hope i covered u.

kessaras said:
my friend , android works that way. it caches everything to ram so that is faster. you dont need more ram and of course u dont need any task manager to close the background apps. the system on its own knows when to free ram and use it somewhere else. if the case is u need to play a game which need more available ram than the phone can have ( for example lets say the phone needs at least 200 ram for the basic system functions so u have available 800 ram and the game needs 1gb ram then thats another case.) u can install swapper to use some disk space to do what ram does. thats all. but if u dont need or play such game then no need for swapper , no need to clear cache and no need to close background apps. if u think u will get more battery life like that , its also wrong. there is another way to get battery life. thats all. hope i covered u.
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You told that there is no need for task manager , so what's the use of these many task manager apps ??
I'm really confused , because as I clean my ram the speed boosts .
So we should not use task manger apps ?!!
And sth else is that , why our ram capacity is 977 instead of 1024 ?
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jasin91 said:
You told that there is no need for task manager , so what's the use of these many task manager apps ??
I'm really confused , because as I clean my ram the speed boosts .
So we should not use task manger apps ?!!
And sth else is that , why our ram capacity is 977 instead of 1024 ?
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where do u see speedboost when you clean ram in android ? Really ?
the only case this can happen is only if u play for example one of my favorites : dungeon hunter 4 and forget to close the app. At least for some time until the os decides that ok u just forgot it there and close it , u have a decrease of fps at your phone ... eh ok if u forget to push the little button to close an app that needs a big amount of resources, then the task manager is usefull. The apps are apps. There are also 10 different apps to sync google contacs but why use them if google contacts are syncing by default if u dont close the sync ?

lol thanks now i understand
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this is normal with 4.1.2, I checked a Iconia tab with 4.1.1 and used less ram, V4.1.2 doesnt manage right the ram... try to rollback to 4.0.3 v10f or search a CM10.1 or custom rom which uses less ram :laugh:

no need more ram if you want more use swapp

Ram management

So I'm sure we all know about launcher redraws and such, how to reduce such issues? My BL is unlocked but I'm enjoying doomkernel and don't want to take the plunge into CM just yet
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@non4 said:
So I'm sure we all know about launcher redraws and such, how to reduce such issues? My BL is unlocked but I'm enjoying doomkernel and don't want to take the plunge into CM just yet
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You can try using Clean Master.Recently a user had problem with ram management(especially when playing games) and clean master fixed his issue.You should also try it or wait for android 4.3 and hope for a better ram management :fingers-crossed:

UltraWelfare said:
You can try using Clean Master.Recently a user had problem with ram management(especially when playing games) and clean master fixed his issue.You should also try it or wait for android 4.3 and hope for a better ram management :fingers-crossed:
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I installed the 4.3 leak already, at least I haven't parted with stock completely thanks anyway
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UltraWelfare said:
You can try using Clean Master.Recently a user had problem with ram management(especially when playing games) and clean master fixed his issue.You should also try it or wait for android 4.3 and hope for a better ram management :fingers-crossed:
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I tried clean master yesterday but the result was not great... I search some tuto about how to use it and if I understand well, it's just a task killer.
I also tried an experiment : I enabled the little widget (in clean master) which show the percentage of RAM used in real time, then I opened a game (dear hunter 2014).
After 1 minute in the game, the percentage of RAM used (if the information of clean master is exact) was 67% and suddenly, the widget disappeared : I think all the app in background had been closed. So why? It shouldn't happend because a lot of RAM was free.
And finally, even with all app in background killed, after 2/3 minutes, I have a FC in the game...
So if someone has an idea/theory about what happen with RAM management, I would be very happy to know!
Informations :Xperia SP Rooted, BL Locked, ROM : Existenz 1.3.7.

Jamprojekt said:
I tried clean master yesterday but the result was not great... I search some tuto about how to use it and if I understand well, it's just a task killer.
I also tried an experiment : I enabled the little widget (in clean master) which show the percentage of RAM used in real time, then I opened a game (dear hunter 2014).
After 1 minute in the game, the percentage of RAM used (if the information of clean master is exact) was 67% and suddenly, the widget disappeared : I think all the app in background had been closed. So why? It shouldn't happend because a lot of RAM was free.
And finally, even with all app in background killed, after 2/3 minutes, I have a FC in the game...
So if someone has an idea/theory about what happen with RAM management, I would be very happy to know!
Informations :Xperia SP Rooted, BL Locked, ROM : Existenz 1.3.7.
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The little widget dissapears when a fullscreen app is being used..It continues in background.

@non4 said:
I installed the 4.3 leak already, at least I haven't parted with stock completely thanks anyway
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ram management in 4.3 leak seems like not working. as ram drops to as low as 14mb.

panjgoori said:
ram management in 4.3 leak seems like not working. as ram drops to as low as 14mb.
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That is probalby because it's a leak, only meant for testing

UltraWelfare said:
The little widget dissapears when a fullscreen app is being used..It continues in background.
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I'm not sure we are talking about the same "widget". I'm talking about the option "flotting widget". And yes, it is supposed to stay all the time on screen (and by the way it stayed a minute aproximatly).

Jamprojekt said:
I'm not sure we are talking about the same "widget". I'm talking about the option "flotting widget". And yes, it is supposed to stay all the time on screen (and by the way it stayed a minute aproximatly).
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Check clean master settings or install battery doctor

UltraWelfare said:
Check clean master settings or install battery doctor
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Thank you for the answer and the idea.
But I really would understand what happen with the RAM.
Before, I used LMT Launcher (pie control) and the same thing happened: LMT was killed after 1 minute in the game.
To sum up: I have 300mb RAM free, I open the game and then all app are killed. And I don't understand why. The game don't use more than 300 mb RAM no?
Plus, this problem don't happen with my brother's galaxy tab 3 (1Gb RAM too).

Jamprojekt said:
Thank you for the answer and the idea.
But I really would understand what happen with the RAM.
Before, I used LMT Launcher (pie control) and the same thing happened: LMT was killed after 1 minute in the game.
To sum up: I have 300mb RAM free, I open the game and then all app are killed. And I don't understand why. The game don't use more than 300 mb RAM no?
Plus, this problem don't happen with my brother's galaxy tab 3 (1Gb RAM too).
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First of all you can click the thanks button .That's why it is there to shorten the length of telling thanks.Back to our point.
LMT things that your game is eating a lot ram and doesn't know if you are really using it.So it kills it to save up ram.
Each games uses different amount of ram.Like a 2d game would use 50mb ram and a 3d game may use 100mb of ram.
It depends on.Xperia SP has a bad ram management for now and onwards to the next version (4.3) it will be fixed a lot.
The rollout starts early Feb / ends of Jan...You can wait a little can't you?

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First of all you can click the thanks button .That's why it is there to shorten the length of telling thanks.Back to our point.
LMT things that your game is eating a lot ram and doesn't know if you are really using it.So it kills it to save up ram.
Each games uses different amount of ram.Like a 2d game would use 50mb ram and a 3d game may use 100mb of ram.
It depends on.Xperia SP has a bad ram management for now and onwards to the next version (4.3) it will be fixed a lot.
The rollout starts early Feb / ends of Jan...You can wait a little can't you?
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Of course I can wait but I'm afraid that it won't be better in the future (the leak of 4.3 don't improve this point obsviously even with more free RAM).

Jamprojekt said:
Of course I can wait but I'm afraid that it wan't be better in the future (the leak of 4.3 don't improve this point obsviously even with more free RAM).
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Days pass devs improve...We don't know what they will bring ...I will find some more apps to free your ram later on but until the devs won't fix it you will have bad ram management(Not only you)

UltraWelfare said:
Days pass devs improve...We don't know what they will bring ...I will find some more apps to free your ram later on but until the devs won't fix it you will have bad ram management(Not only you)
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you could also use greenify (with xposed features) and fast reboot before playing a game. works like a charm to me

Nanostray said:
you could also use greenify (with xposed features) and fast reboot before playing a game. works like a charm to me
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Nanostray you are a magician.I totally forgot greenify(even though i have it installed)

UltraWelfare said:
Nanostray you are a magician.I totally forgot greenify(even though i have it installed)
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If you need a really powerful combination, put the hibernate-shortcut together with the fast reboot app on the same homescreen. Then first use the fast reboot (system apps etc) and then use greenify (all other apps, including fast reboot).Instant 300mb+ RAM (with my phone)

Nanostray said:
If you need a really powerful combination, put the hibernate-shortcut together with the fast reboot app on the same homescreen. Then first use the fast reboot (system apps etc) and then use greenify (all other apps, including fast reboot).Instant 300mb+ RAM (with my phone)
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So only 400mb are being used from the device?

UltraWelfare said:
So only 400mb are being used from the device?
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I'm not sure, but the first 5 minutes after the killing, free RAM is usually 350-360mb

Nanostray said:
I'm not sure, but the first 5 minutes after the killing, free RAM is usually 350-360mb
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Then how is it possible that Chrome kills music player? My Desire X has 768 mb ram and can keep both running (on a heavy sense rom)

GtrCraft said:
Then how is it possible that Chrome kills music player? My Desire X has 768 mb ram and can keep both running (on a heavy sense rom)
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No clue mate, better drivers maybe?

[Q] how to free more ram

hi everyone i want to know how to free more ram in stock rom when i restart its almost 700mb ram usage and after normal use its goes to 1200mb but i want free memory like my nexus 4 which use ram 350mb to 700mb max please help me guys

pradatta said:
hi everyone i want to know how to free more ram in stock rom when i restart its almost 700mb ram usage and after normal use its goes to 1200mb but i want free memory like my nexus 4 which use ram 350mb to 700mb max please help me guys
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My RAM usage is about that high, 700mb. But since the Z1 has about 1.6 gb of RAM, you shouldn't really worry. If it does get to the point where apps stop working or services become unresponsive, restart the phone or kill the app that's using the RAM. I believe when your RAM usage is about 1.5 GB it starts becoming a bit unresponsive.
Nexus uses less RAM because it only has stock apps. Sony has their own software running in the background along with some of Google's apps.

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My RAM usage is about that high, 700mb. But since the Z1 has about 1.6 gb of RAM, you shouldn't really worry. If it does get to the point where apps stop working or services become unresponsive, restart the phone or kill the app that's using the RAM. I believe when your RAM usage is about 1.5 GB it starts becoming a bit unresponsive.
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ya actually u r right but this is not related mobile lag or hang i just want my mobile should use less ram so i m searching for that kind of answer any way u really help me with ur fast reply thanks:good:

You have to be rooted and delete all the unnecessary application which working in background.

eclyptos said:
You have to be rooted and delete all the unnecessary application which working in background.
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i have rooted device and how to know which app i should delete from background ?

pradatta said:
ya actually u r right but this is not related mobile lag or hang i just want my mobile should use less ram so i m searching for that kind of answer any way u really help me with ur fast reply thanks:good:
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That doesn't makes sense. As long as your device isn't unresponsive or laggy you shouldn't bother about RAM-Usage. Android handles your available Memory quite well.
Try looking at it like this:
There isn't any use in having more and more RAM, if people on the other hand go and try to keep the RAM-usage low. As long as you don't have problems (lags or such) having free RAM is just eyecandy.
Additionally:
For every app killed, Android needs to load it from storage the next time, resulting in more battery drain than just letting it idle in memory

xXFlippyXx said:
That doesn't makes sense. As long as your device isn't unresponsive or laggy you shouldn't bother about RAM-Usage. Android handles your available Memory quite well.
Try looking at it like this:
There isn't any use in having more and more RAM, if people on the other hand go and try to keep the RAM-usage low. As long as you don't have problems (lags or such) having free RAM is just eyecandy.
Additionally:
For every app killed, Android needs to load it from storage the next time, resulting in more battery drain than just letting it idle in memory
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ohh thanks reply and and suggestions :good:

pradatta said:
i have rooted device and how to know which app i should delete from background ?
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It's a kind of thread like this one for Arc
but for Z1 somewhere, I remember a saw that thread with a list of apps to uninstall, search for it.