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Not impressed by current ROMs

Hey,
Firstly, I would like to thank all the developers for making efforts to develop a decent rom for the Xperia. I have tried every single one of them.
Unfortunately I couldn't fall in love with any of them.
Somehow I sense that it must me me that is doing something if other older HTC devices seem to be running way faster on customized roms than the experia with so much hardware potential.
Anyone has the same feeling?
Kind Regards

no.
EDIT: For the sake of order: I've used an HTC Trinity before, which was MUCH slower - even with ultra light roms and maximum free RAM. I compared with the TyTn II, which has just awful landscape-switching speed and was overall slower. Compared with the Touch Pro, I don't see any big differences - and if, with slight advantages for the X1.
So, no, I don't think the X1 is slow or not smooth enough. It just depends on what you're running. TouchFlo3D just slows the system down significantly - even on the (original) HTC devices (like Diamond, Touch Pro or Touch HD).

this is the same comments coming everytime there is a new device.
Look at in.ex polaris...ok device, a bit slow. Now it have optimized 2d and 3d drivers, its damn fast compared to what it used to be...but that didnt happen with a snap of our fingers..
we are just in the beginning of working on x1
So please, be as unimpressed as you want.
have a nice day
cheers

Well, one should not forget, that the x1 has 25% more pixels than Diamond or Touch Pro and even 400% more pixels than Tytn II & Co ...

Erm, is this machine just rubbish?

I've just got hold of a Touch Diamond after using an elfin (Touch Enhanced) for a year or two.
I started with some of the great looking roms here on the site and was looking forward to using Touchflo etc and getting the most out of the faster processor.
So far I've concluded that it's worse than the Elfin. On most roms everything seems, well, sluggish. Even the faster ones are not very fast.
Then there's memory. Only the Benko roms (trying Prime right now) seem to leave any room for applications.
Finally, it seems to keep charge if I don't use it but as soon as I do anything the battery level drops pretty quickly.
I love the touchflo 3d interface and the higher definition screen but I feel like it's a downgrade otherwise.
Are there any Diamond-lovers out there who can help me make the best of it and have it working well for them or should I get it on eBay quick and go back to trusty elfin?
Thanks for any comments.

Is galaxy S still worth buying?

I want to buy a phone with SuperAMOLED display. I cant afford galaxy S2 and SuperAMOLED nexus S is not available in my country. So that leaves only the galaxy S.
Now I really dont want to root and all that, I just want a good "stock" experience. I dont care about having the highest benchmark score but I do want the user interface and games to run reasonably smooth in comparison to phones like the nexus S and xperia arc.
I have heard galaxy S is very slow if you dont change the memory system that the phone uses? Is stock gingerbread slow as well?
To a user like me would you rather suggest a nexus S and compromise on LCD?

Get a galaxy s, use stock jvt and custom kernel for reliability and speed. Best of all worlds you can also use a theme to make it look better
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I also think that it's still a good choice, you can get it fairly cheap especially as used device from people that are upgrading to the newer device generation.
The AMOLED screen is awesome! I never want a LCD anymore.
But you're right, the stock firmwares are not the best from a speed perspective. A custom Kernel with a lag fix or Cyanogenmod will increase the speed a lot.
But that shouldn't be a show stopper, as you will get all necessary howto's here on XDA devs.

I just purchased SGS too recently, and here are some of the reasons
- 4.0 inches display, although it is common, but it is better than having a 3.5 inches or less screen
- the GPU at SGS is really really rocking! so supporting ICS isnt really a problem
- Super Amoled Display, which phone can be as cheap as SGS and get it? same goes to Gorilla Glass Display on it, so no protective screen is needed ( at least I am not using it)
- Processor? hhmm... sounds normal, but you gotta love Hummingbird than Snapdragon or else
- front camera, some other phone which has the par price with sgs mostly dont have this, do not underrate front camera, they are useful
edit: u gotta love Super Amoled screen, especially under bright sun!

Nexus S SuperClear LCD version is actually a little cheaper than galaxy S. But it's just that it's not superAMOLED.
It will soon get native ICS which is really the biggest thing in it's favour.
Can someone explain something to me. I have heard the memory system of the galaxy S can slow it down "over time"? What does it mean? It will run smoothly for a few days but then gets slower? Am I over thinking about the memory system and it's not actually that bad? Are there other reputable phones which use it as well?
Sorry for all the questions.

I'm running on a custom ROM (MintBerry MIUI) with Thunderbolt script tweaks and I rarely turn off or even reboot my phone. I haven't noticed any slowdowns after long usage.

I bought used galaxy s from a guy at work because he wanted iphone so it would work better with his mac. And i must say i've been pretty pleased. I used it without any modification several months until i needed more power to get a flash game running and started to overclock it etc..
But even without any rooting and modding its pretty decent phone for "normal" use and right now i might buy it instead of s2 if i had too little money. For now i am temped to buy s2 but with modding to my galaxy s is so good i can skip s2 and buy s3 when it comes out, if there is not a better phone coming

Thanks everyone. So seems like stock unrooted galaxy S gingerbread still runs pretty good and things only improve once I am ready to root and all.
Will be buying galaxy S, SuperAMOLED FTW.

The Galaxy S is not slow at all if you run it on froyo 2.2.1. But on Gingerbread roms, there will be some microlags

Update it to stock firmware called "JVT". This version is rock stable, incredible gaming performance, modem has no signal issues etc.
I am using it, however I am using a kernel and a script, both of which were very easy to install took less than 5 mins and this is the best phone I have used yet.

Only thing i complain about galaxy s is that its slow on browser flash games and without modding and overclocking they don't usually work at all. But then again s2 it works but is laggy. Flash is old and bad and very heavy so no wonder. But without that need of flash i would not much consider of changing to any other phone from galaxy s if i don't got extra money in my pocket.
oh and if you are really cheap a friend got one of those zte phones if i recall the name.. well anyway it had 3 letters and they are slow. Well rooting and modding them they are pretty decent phones to use so you could save some money doing that.

Im very pleased with my Galaxy, before i got this little baby i used to gargle at the top phones all the time.
But this bright charming little thing still got everything i need! Its fast, screen is great, lots of custom roms (including ICS). Battery is good enough if you calibrate iy
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I first had the phone complete stock for a month or two, I'd say it was pretty fast, and I believe it actually never crashed. But then I became to tempted with al the root stuff, and things like voodoo sound. At first I didn't understand at all what a kernel and all that does, and completely panicked when the phone got a bootloop after I flashed something. Ofcourse, after some time you understand what it all means and that sgs is actually really, really very hard to brick. Now I'm try new kernels or Roms every now and then, but I'm really good with my setup now. All that modding and flashing makes the phone faster, but you just gotta need something to understand it.
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Gambler_3 said:
I want to buy a phone with SuperAMOLED display. I cant afford galaxy S2 and SuperAMOLED nexus S is not available in my country. So that leaves only the galaxy S.
Now I really dont want to root and all that, I just want a good "stock" experience. I dont care about having the highest benchmark score but I do want the user interface and games to run reasonably smooth in comparison to phones like the nexus S and xperia arc.
I have heard galaxy S is very slow if you dont change the memory system that the phone uses? Is stock gingerbread slow as well?
To a user like me would you rather suggest a nexus S and compromise on LCD?
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galaxy s with early froyo was slow,with gingerbread is a beast. so hell yeah,it worths buying it

[Q] Exchanging SII with NOTE __ Worth it?

Hi there!
Have been using SII for about a year and a half now.
I don't know how but recently i have got tired of this 4 inchy and
really want a bigger screen.
And I'm getting an offer to exchange it with galaxy note. On paper galaxy note seems
ted powerful and with a better display as well.
But what I'm really concerned about is the real life difference in performance. I have heard from some
friends that NOTE is actually on a bit slower side than SII.
Would love to hear from guys who have used both the phones and please suggest should I go for the exchange.
Thanks.

walkermoon said:
Hi there!
Have been using SII for about a year and a half now.
I don't know how but recently i have got tired of this 4 inchy and
really want a bigger screen.
And I'm getting an offer to exchange it with galaxy note. On paper galaxy note seems
ted powerful and with a better display as well.
But what I'm really concerned about is the real life difference in performance. I have heard from some
friends that NOTE is actually on a bit slower side than SII.
Would love to hear from guys who have used both the phones and please suggest should I go for the exchange.
Thanks.
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It's barely noticeable slower. Specially in screens transitions and scrolling through lists that have images.
Maybe because of the higher resolution of the screen.
But in my opinion totally worth the upgrade
The bigger screen makes watching videos and playing games an amazing experience

Total worth the upgrade mate.
Go ahead and do it. Good luck :thumbup:
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Thats what I'm really concerned about. The reslotion of the galaxy note is almost 70 to 80 percent more than galaxy SII.
Theoretically that should mean galaxy note require around 1.8 to 2 Ghz dual core processor if I'm right to perform as snappier as galaxy SII.
And that's why there's a lag in UI and general use I guess.
I really like the s pen and the screen size.
But I do feel HD resolution is too much of an asking for a dual core.
Please correct and guide me if I'm wrong.
Waiting for your comments eagerly.

As far as I know, the pixels are "moved around" by the GPU , not the CPU.
So the processor has nothing to do with the lag.

walkermoon said:
Thats what I'm really concerned about. The reslotion of the galaxy note is almost 70 to 80 percent more than galaxy SII.
Theoretically that should mean galaxy note require around 1.8 to 2 Ghz dual core processor if I'm right to perform as snappier as galaxy SII.
And that's why there's a lag in UI and general use I guess.
I really like the s pen and the screen size.
But I do feel HD resolution is too much of an asking for a dual core.
Please correct and guide me if I'm wrong.
Waiting for your comments eagerly.
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The pixels are rendered by the GPU, not the CPU, but yes, they are also the same, and it's the reason for the difference.
It can get pretty smooth tough. Don't worry about performance. You won't have any trouble

projeto56;43692282pixels are rendered by the GPU said:
sherbibv said:
As far as I know, the pixels are "moved around" by the GPU , not the CPU.
So the processor has nothing to do with the lag.
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Thanks guys
Getting it tommorow
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Thanks to all.
Got Note finally. And after a month of use I don't think I would look back. Cheers.

Yes, the note is slower than s2. I also can't use android 4.1.2 as it's extremely laggy (this may happen only with my note).
The phones screen size makes it impossible to comfortably use this phone with one hand, so You mostly have to use both of Your hands.
If You're aiming for a bigger screen or for the spen's precision I would definitely recommend You this phone.
I must say I wouldn't go back to s2,as the spen is very important for me.
What do You want from this phone?
Nvm. Haven't seen the last post
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jakuburban said:
Yes, the note is slower than s2. I also can't use android 4.1.2 as it's extremely laggy (this may happen only with my note).
The phones screen size makes it impossible to comfortably use this phone with one hand, so You mostly have to use both of Your hands.
If You're aiming for a bigger screen or for the spen's precision I would definitely recommend You this phone.
I must say I wouldn't go back to s2,as the spen is very important for me.
What do You want from this phone?
Nvm. Haven't seen the last post
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I really like the spen. But the lag problem is an issue with me too. I flashed indian version first and a few days back
I flashed the Uk xxlt9 firmware(obviously aftera full wipe). But I dont see much difference in those 2 versions. I guess jelly bean
is really too much for this phone(atleast stock one). I tried cyanogenmod too but I really missed the neat built in features of the spen so I
moved back to stock jelly bean. But its really annoying when a 200 dollar phone beats it in benchmarks and general use. Or may be I'm
expecting too much off this device.
After a month or so of use.. This is what I feel-
Stock jelly bean- Battery life is good(as long as u keep the screen off )
Typing and general UI is way too laggy.
Touchwiz is beautiful ( I know am the only one but I really like the design and transitions)
Spen is nicely integrated and snote is nicely designed. I use it a lot personally (only after it opens a decade to open)
Cyanogenmod 10.3 nightlies- Fluid and really usable. Sleek.
Flat and boring untill you dont use a theme.
Camera not at par with stock jb.
Huh.. A lot of writing i guess. These were my observations. But what I really want is stock experience with cyanogenmod like speed.
Is there anyone who's in same sort of situation like me.

walkermoon said:
I really like the spen. But the lag problem is an issue with me too. I flashed indian version first and a few days back
I flashed the Uk xxlt9 firmware(obviously aftera full wipe). But I dont see much difference in those 2 versions. I guess jelly bean
is really too much for this phone(atleast stock one). I tried cyanogenmod too but I really missed the neat built in features of the spen so I
moved back to stock jelly bean. But its really annoying when a 200 dollar phone beats it in benchmarks and general use. Or may be I'm
expecting too much off this device.
After a month or so of use.. This is what I feel-
Stock jelly bean- Battery life is good(as long as u keep the screen off )
Typing and general UI is way too laggy.
Touchwiz is beautiful ( I know am the only one but I really like the design and transitions)
Spen is nicely integrated and snote is nicely designed. I use it a lot personally (only after it opens a decade to open)
Cyanogenmod 10.3 nightlies- Fluid and really usable. Sleek.
Flat and boring untill you dont use a theme.
Camera not at par with stock jb.
Huh.. A lot of writing i guess. These were my observations. But what I really want is stock experience with cyanogenmod like speed.
Is there anyone who's in same sort of situation like me.
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Finally someone that has the same problem with JB.
Man, I usually have 120-150 apps installed (I have to have them) and any JB ROM is UNUSABLE for me. Even stock JB laggs, after restoring my apps it's....agh If the phone wasn't so expensive I would throw it against the wall. Why did JB work on SGS2 like a charm and on the Note it sucks so much?
That's why I had to use ICS. It doesn't have the Spen hovering & scrolling features (which I really miss ) , but it's fast and almost lag free.
However CM10.2 is the fastest I've used so far. I'm really astonished, it's a beta ROM and it's way better than official one (WTF?).
I bought this phone for the Spen and that's why I'm using it a lot. I only hope that the Spen won't start to fell out of the phone as it's getting easier to take it out.
I think I will never switch from the note series, as the spen is veeery important for me (well, maybe when there will be some other phone with thin stylus )

jakuburban said:
Finally someone that has the same problem with JB.
Man, I usually have 120-150 apps installed (I have to have them) and any JB ROM is UNUSABLE for me. Even stock JB laggs, after restoring my apps it's....agh If the phone wasn't so expensive I would throw it against the wall. Why did JB work on SGS2 like a charm and on the Note it sucks so much?
That's why I had to use ICS. It doesn't have the Spen hovering & scrolling features (which I really miss ) , but it's fast and almost lag free.
However CM10.2 is the fastest I've used so far. I'm really astonished, it's a beta ROM and it's way better than official one (WTF?).
I bought this phone for the Spen and that's why I'm using it a lot. I only hope that the Spen won't start to fell out of the phone as it's getting easier to take it out.
I think I will never switch from the note series, as the spen is veeery important for me (well, maybe when there will be some other phone with thin stylus )
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Gimme cyanogenmod with spen features.. I would grab it anyday.

walkermoon said:
Gimme cyanogenmod with spen features.. I would grab it anyday.
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Yeah, give me too hehe.
I would like to see all those hovering etc. stuff. Maybe it will be possible if official 4.3 comes out to note 2 and then it will be ported to our note.
But I don't think so

And the throwing part.. I feel exactly like you.. Lost brothers? Lol

I dont see 4.3 coming to this lovely device anytime soon. But the main point here shouldn't be just running after the latest android version. It should be making the current firmware as best as it can be. How come GB and ICS be faster than JB, no one knows except samsung or god. Lol

walkermoon said:
I dont see 4.3 coming to this lovely device anytime soon. But the main point here shouldn't be just running after the latest android version. It should be making the current firmware as best as it can be. How come GB and ICS be faster than JB, no one knows except samsung or god. Lol
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Ok, the older android versions don't require so good specs, but there shouldn't be such a big difference between ics and jb. I hope the notes 2 official android 4.3 will be ported to our old note 1.
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[Q] Anyone Working on a Kernel?

Just curious if anyone is working on a custom kernel. Battery life on the stock kernel seems not so great.
I personally would like to see a kernel aimed toward 1. better battery 2. customization and 3. performance.
Thanks in advance

Customization would be great, but I can't see how we could get even more battery life than we're already getting. It feels like moto has already squeezed the blood out of the turnip with this little battery.

Think the battery is quite good on 4.4.4. Not so good on lollipop

Wish I knew more of doing this lol. The screen is way too warm for my tastes. A custom kernel which at least has RGB customization would be amazing for this phone!

DanRyb said:
Wish I knew more of doing this lol. The screen is way too warm for my tastes. A custom kernel which at least has RGB customization would be amazing for this phone!
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Did you have a Samsung before? This is my first non-sammy device in four years. I LOVE it but the screen colors are warm as you say. I am use to over saturation from hell.

TigerDNA said:
Did you have a Samsung before? This is my first non-sammy device in four years. I LOVE it but the screen colors are warm as you say. I am use to over saturation from hell.
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I haven't had a Samsung since the S II lol. I'm more of a colder screen person such ala Apple devices (I know... lol). I mean this isn't bad bad; just a touch bluer and I'd be super happy. I'm using a screen adjuster app right now but I'd prefer to do some low level tweaking at the kernel level over a screen tinter app. But alas, I don't know too much about building kernels! It doesn't even appear as if Motorola has pushed out the kernel source for Lollipop yet.
I'm coming from the N6 (returned within my 14 days...usability just wasn't there for me, way too big to be practical as a phone) which I had just flashed a custom kernel and was able to tweak the RGB just to my liking so I'm hurting a bit here!!! LOL