I thinking about buying D4 as my prime phone. I already find out that It supports GSM and how to unlock this feature. But is it worth to buy this phone to work on GSM? I noticed that there are many issues with it:
- not working callout on 3G on Android 2.3
- Verizon lockscreen that wants to activate phone
- problems with APNs
etc.
zwierzak said:
I thinking about buying D4 as my prime phone. I already find out that It supports GSM and how to unlock this feature. But is it worth to buy this phone to work on GSM? I noticed that there are many issues with it:
- not working callout on 3G on Android 2.3
- Verizon lockscreen that wants to activate phone
- problems with APNs
etc.
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Yes! It's definately worth it!
The 3g callout problem is a temporarily thing, I'm sure of it. We're still playing with settings and drivers to fix that. In the mean time I use my phone on 2g for voice and 3g for iinternet. With one press of a button I can switch between 2g and 3g (There's an app for that )
The verizon lock screen pops up only once. Once you skip it, it doesn't return until you reset your phone to factory defaults.
Problems with apn's? Depends on your provider. I didn't have any problems at all.My apn settings were transferred automatically to my D4 when my provider detected that I was using a new phone. Even after installing different roms.
I'm using my D4 a couple of weeks and everything still works like a charm.
vmu said:
Yes! It's definately worth it!
The 3g callout problem is a temporarily thing, I'm sure of it. We're still playing with settings and drivers to fix that. In the mean time I use my phone on 2g for voice and 3g for iinternet. With one press of a button I can switch between 2g and 3g (There's an app for that )
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Mainly I work on 2G because of battery saving (it last for much longer!). But bug with callout has been patch in leaked ICS and what I heard it don't have Verizon stuff installed. I can't wait that some CFW ICS would use its libraries and kernel.
Unfortunately for now I can't afford on buying it because last 10 days jump over 10% according to my currency so it, when previously it had very good price then now it isn't.
I love it. I'm in Canada on Bell Mobility and everything works perfectly on Gingerbread, including outgoing calls on 3G. I think the voice issue is only affecting those within the USA on other carriers such as AT&T.
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Whats the difference in using 2G or 3G for voice calls?
Isn't it the same?
Also, I wanted to use this phone on AT&T in the US. I just have voice and texting. Will this phone work for me?
Rick#2 said:
I love it. I'm in Canada on Bell Mobility and everything works perfectly on Gingerbread, including outgoing calls on 3G. I think the voice issue is only affecting those within the USA on other carriers such as AT&T.
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Hi there,
did you have the chance of direct comparison to the Droid 3's signal quality, 3g speeds and call quality? I may consider importing it, but still not sure.
THANKS
It seems to work just as well as my Droid 3 did. The only issue I have is that the Droid 4 seems to underreport the signal it is receiving in the status indicator, the highest signal I've been able to see is 3/5 bars but it still seems to perform as if it were at 5/5.
I'm sure it is just tampering by Verizon and doesn't hinder the device's operation at all. I haven't tried any of the AOKP ROMs yet but will report back once I get a chance to install one.
Thanks for the reply!
Thats interesting, it's like the Droid 3 cheating on us that the GSM Signal would be very poor. Would you please have a look in the build.prop if there is a value ro.mot.phonemode.vzwglobalphone and set it to 0? Then prove if the signal gets better?
News about Droid 4 GSM unlocking this summer:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/2...er/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Interestingly enough, in the ICS build just leaked that has global support enabled by default, that value is set to 0 in the build.prop.
I am in the US and a VZW user, so I can't test the GSM radio performance on the D4 because they have disabled it for US carriers via another band lock or other mechanism.
I have been dumping and comparing the NVM of the various builds to try and isolate any critical differences to find the key. It may not, in fact, be in the NVM at all, but elsewhere in the radio image.
Just an FYI.
gtmaster303 said:
Whats the difference in using 2G or 3G for voice calls?
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There is difference in voice codec (on 3G you should get better quality, but it also depends on the second side). Also at 3G you can use front cam for video conferences.
Rotkaeqpchen said:
Thanks for the reply!
Thats interesting, it's like the Droid 3 cheating on us that the GSM Signal would be very poor. Would you please have a look in the build.prop if there is a value ro.mot.phonemode.vzwglobalphone and set it to 0? Then prove if the signal gets better?
News about Droid 4 GSM unlocking this summer:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/2...er/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Yeah, the first thing I did once I could was look at the build.prop settings but I noticed that ro.mot.phonemode.vzwglobalphone is already set to 0, with a note in the comments above it that "the definition moved to cdma_maserati.mk to support different config for factory", which suggests that maybe their tampering is a little more hard-coded into the Blur interface.
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Hey, I'm in Australia (GSM) and I purchased a Motorola Droid 3 (XT862) from America a few months ago.
Should I have bought the XT860 (GSM version)?
I was with Optus but because they don't support the 850mhz network I switched to Vodafone because they had it. So now I atleast have data working on my phone after those months of not having it, but vodafone sucks, especially on this phone (text messages sometimes don't send/signal cuts out all the time) but the 3G is very good.
The phone I previously had before the Droid 3 was a HTC Tmobile G2 which I had also bought from America, and everything worked perfectly.
If I buy the XT860 will it fix everything?
On the Motorola website it says the XT862 and XT860 have the same networks... but the XT680 is supposed to be used on GSM, so would it work fine?
Sorry if I confused anyone, I'm really baked.
Thanks in advance for anyone trying to help
Maybe you could try the T-MOBILE AT&T hack?
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i have XT 862, on GSM and it works perfectly. More than that, I use also vodafone
The xt860 (and xt883) would not be any better; all they (along with the xt862) support UTMS 850/1900/2100mHz. Thus, you probably didn't get a lot of 3G on the Optus network (which uses 900/2100mHz). The main Vodafone 3G network in Aus is 900/2100mHz, but they are in the process of rolling out an 850mHz network.
Telstra Next-G uses 850mHz (and they have 2100mHz as well, but only in cities I believe)
Anyway, in brief: If you're willing to switch to Telstra, you should get great results. If not, Vodafone is the next best option.
I have xt862 on optus in Austraia. I just stay in global mode. I did experiment around with some of the custom roms but found weirdnesses like my calls not coming thru. I went back to stock and now im going to stay on stock until cm9 reaches release. Im not having any issues on stock.
Hope this helps
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MrObvious said:
Maybe you could try the T-MOBILE AT&T hack?
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Just did it, I suppose it improved the situation a tiny bit, but i'm not sure.
I will do some tests on the Telstra network, see if it's better than Vodafone.
Im using the phone in Global mode atm and I'm getting a decent 3-4 bars instead of the 1 or 2 i'd normally get which excites me
And the network type is displaying HSPA.
But I cannot send text messages, everytime, it just says "Text message not sent" which is very annoying. Anyone know anything about this? When I swapped over to Vodafone from Optus I could send texts but after a point it just stopped working...
Anyone know anything about this?
thanks
So does the droid 3 bought from usa connect to data services with optus at all?
How fast is data transfer in "global" mode?
late reply i know, but I'm on TPG [Optus network] in Qld, Aus with the droid 3 XT862.
from memory, all i've done is done the 'hack' to show actual reception, rather than 1 bar. I run the phone on the global setting.
I just ran a speedtest.net check, got an internode server in Sydney. ping 139ms, DL 5241kbps, UL 1202kbps.
OP, when you were with Optus, did you go through your account settings and make sure you had 3G data turned on for your phone, etc? I'm not trying to patronise or anything, but it always helps to start with the basics when fault finding.
Regards,
Hi All,
Im also in Australia, with Vodafone, and am looking at getting myself a Droid 3 as well.
Since the phones aren't released here, what happens about software updates? Im assuming they won't happen via OTA?
Im leaning towards the XT860, rather than the XT862, any particular reason to go for either?
Thanks,
cevad
cevad said:
Hi All,
Im also in Australia, with Vodafone, and am looking at getting myself a Droid 3 as well.
Since the phones aren't released here, what happens about software updates? Im assuming they won't happen via OTA?
Im leaning towards the XT860, rather than the XT862, any particular reason to go for either?
Thanks,
cevad
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No difference between them but the xt860 has more dedicated roms here. Both are the same phone and just build.prop edits are needed to get the phones up and running in 5 mins. OTA updates will still work anywhere tho if you root and mod your phone don't use use the OTA feature as you will screw your phone.
All you need to do select wcdma/gsm mode and manually put in your service provider APNs to get 3G. Find this on the Voda site.
Best place to find your APN is here:
http://ausdroid.net/apns/
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somemadcaaant said:
All you need to do select wcdma/gsm mode and manually put in your service provider APNs to get 3G. Find this on the Voda site.
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I managed to get a xt862, but I cant get data working on optus? (live connected)
calls/text works - tried global mode, tried GSM/UMTS mode, tried manually selecting optus 3g network, made sure the data setting was enabled which is actually under "battery & data manager". Already manually input the optus apn.
what am I missing?
Do you have to do the tmobile at&t hack? running everything stock from factory; or will rooting the phone/install ics help?
I have the one bar reception bug which I read on another thread if that makes a difference.
nvm, got it to work, for some reason manually inputting an APN didnt work, had to find the optus site and send it via sms.
Speed isnt too bad.
The next problem now though is wireless hotspot. It connects but no data goes through for some reason
jjabrams said:
The next problem now though is wireless hotspot. It connects but no data goes through for some reason
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If the xt862 is the verizon version, I have read that verizon have blocked the hotspot stuff from working.
Hi all, well my One arrived from the UK today.. As I feared it does not have the ATT LTE bands that PDAbd.net suggested it had, bummer, but I can live with HSDPA... Set up the phone, it asks me to select the operator I am unsing, with ATT as the first choice... all goes well.. I load it up and initial impressions... WOW.. what a great phone.
BUT and and very BIG BUT.... the signal is terrible... bouncing from no signal to 2 bars and displaying H one minute, 3G the next and then E...
Driving down a notorious road it drops the call at least half a mile before typical and doesn't pick it up again until even later..
Does anyone know if there are any setting I can adjust to optimize to ATT?
I really do not want to put it is back in the box, but unless someone has a suggestion for me, I have no choice...
Help!!
Many thanks,
Nick
A quick question. Where did you get your HTC One? And have you used any other HTC Phones before and got good signal with it?
nickywaldo said:
Hi all, well my One arrived from the UK today.. As I feared it does not have the ATT LTE bands that PDAbd.net suggested it had, bummer, but I can live with HSDPA... Set up the phone, it asks me to select the operator I am unsing, with ATT as the first choice... all goes well.. I load it up and initial impressions... WOW.. what a great phone.
BUT and and very BIG BUT.... the signal is terrible... bouncing from no signal to 2 bars and displaying H one minute, 3G the next and then E...
Driving down a notorious road it drops the call at least half a mile before typical and doesn't pick it up again until even later..
Does anyone know if there are any setting I can adjust to optimize to ATT?
I really do not want to put it is back in the box, but unless someone has a suggestion for me, I have no choice...
Help!!
Many thanks,
Nick
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Hi There,
I bought it in the UK. It was a legitimate HTC supplier and an unlocked model 801n.
I have used a couple HTC phones in the past:
ATT 8X - worked well (at least as far as signal was concerned, but that was the ATT model)
I also had a Verizon Incredible, but since that is a different provider, I am ignoring it.
Other phones I have right now adn tested in the same location with the same SIM:
1. ATT - Galaxy note 2 - good signal no issues
2. ATT LG Optimus G - Good signal no issues
3. ATT Iphone 5 Good signal no issues
4. ATT Nokia 920 - good signal no issues
5. Blackberry Z10 - unbelievably good signal - no issues - Unlocked ATT bands, not ATT branded (Purchased from Expansys USA)
This is why I am wondering whether it is some kind of optimization issue. I cannot believe HTC could have made such a mistake in design. Also, if I switch to GSM only, I have full bars.... It is only on 3G and HSDPA that the signal is poor and the display oscillates between 3G and H
Any advice?
Many thanks,
Nick
Are you rooted? The solution is disabling fast dormancy on HTC One. New HTC devices enables fast dormancy by default which affects & weakens signal strength on networks that doesn't support it yet. If not I am not aware of any ways to disable it without root yet. I'll update you if I find one.
On UK almost all networks do support fast dormancy already except for Three UK so that maybe the reason why it's enabled by default in the US however I am not aware of the implementation of network carriers there sorry.
Riyal said:
Are you rooted? The solution is disabling fast dormancy on HTC One. New HTC devices enables fast dormancy by default which affects & weakens signal strength on networks that doesn't support it yet. If not I am not aware of any ways to disable it without root yet. I'll update you if I find one.
On UK almost all networks do support fast dormancy already except for Three UK so that maybe the reason why it's enabled by default in the US however I am not aware of the implementation of network carriers there sorry.
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Thanks for the advice!!!
No I am not rooted - what will I lose if I root it? Do you know of a link to a simple thread with rooting instructions and how to disable the fast dormancy? I am not super experienced with Android yet
Does anyone know whether ATT supports fast dormancy of not?
Also, I have been led to believe that the One supports a number of carrier frequencies, but they only enable those for the specific region it is sold in. Do you know if there is a way to enable the other frequencies? Or is this just an unfounded rumor? Also, do you know if there is a way to check which LTE band the phone I have is equipped with - Not an on-line reference, but a way to find it on the phone?
Many thanks!!
Your warranty if you mess something in the software's side like bricking your phone & OTA updates. But you'll be able to update anyways just by directly flashing on the phone.
Anyways here's a noob proof app to rooting. Please do some research first before going so you'll not mess this up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183942
And... No. AT&T doesn't support fast dormancy.
nickywaldo said:
Thanks for the advice!!!
No I am not rooted - what will I lose if I root it? Do you know of a link to a simple thread with rooting instructions and how to disable the fast dormancy? I am not super experienced with Android yet
Does anyone know whether ATT supports fast dormancy of not?
Also, I have been led to believe that the One supports a number of carrier frequencies, but they only enable those for the specific region it is sold in. Do you know if there is a way to enable the other frequencies? Or is this just an unfounded rumor? Also, do you know if there is a way to check which LTE band the phone I have is equipped with - Not an on-line reference, but a way to find it on the phone?
Many thanks!!
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nickywaldo said:
Thanks for the advice!!!
No I am not rooted - what will I lose if I root it? Do you know of a link to a simple thread with rooting instructions and how to disable the fast dormancy? I am not super experienced with Android yet
Does anyone know whether ATT supports fast dormancy of not?
Also, I have been led to believe that the One supports a number of carrier frequencies, but they only enable those for the specific region it is sold in. Do you know if there is a way to enable the other frequencies? Or is this just an unfounded rumor? Also, do you know if there is a way to check which LTE band the phone I have is equipped with - Not an on-line reference, but a way to find it on the phone?
Many thanks!!
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Check this regarding what is Fast Dormancy and tell us if it works(probably NOT (it works only to samsung phones) but it is easy to try) http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-international/674208-fast-dormancy-in-nutshell.html
"To turn FD on/off enter *#9900# in the dialler to get into the SysDump screen then select the Fast Dormancy option"
You mind sharing the link if they have stock? Good luck with the signal issue.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2
I had a friend with an international GS2 with the same problem. Constantly bounced from HSPA+ to 3G to EDGE to no signal. I'm 99% sure that the issue is network settings, you likely need to check SIM card, data plan provisioning, APNs, etc.
mmathiou said:
Check this regarding what is Fast Dormancy and tell us if it works(probably NOT (it works only to samsung phones) but it is easy to try) http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-international/674208-fast-dormancy-in-nutshell.html
"To turn FD on/off enter *#9900# in the dialler to get into the SysDump screen then select the Fast Dormancy option"
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Thanks for the suggestion... As soon as I enter the code, I get an error, so I am unable to even get to the SysDump
cdd543 said:
You mind sharing the link if they have stock? Good luck with the signal issue.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2
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I bought the last one they had. You should be able to find them now... More and more are popping up every day.
Many thanks,
Nick
Hunt3r.j2 said:
I had a friend with an international GS2 with the same problem. Constantly bounced from HSPA+ to 3G to EDGE to no signal. I'm 99% sure that the issue is network settings, you likely need to check SIM card, data plan provisioning, APNs, etc.
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Hey, thanks - Do you know what settings I should use? I have an LTE provisioned SIM card...I assume that should be ok, since the phone is LTE enabled, just wrong bands? I have tried with Auto LTE on and of - I currently have it on GSM/WCDMA - it has been working better the past day, but it is still not right..
The SIM works perfectly in the Note 2, Optimus G etc. So I am wondering whether I need to look at the APN or something like that, but I do not know what the best settings should be. Anyone have this info?
Many thanks,
Nick
nickywaldo said:
Hey, thanks - Do you know what settings I should use? I have an LTE provisioned SIM card...I assume that should be ok, since the phone is LTE enabled, just wrong bands? I have tried with Auto LTE on and of - I currently have it on GSM/WCDMA - it has been working better the past day, but it is still not right..
The SIM works perfectly in the Note 2, Optimus G etc. So I am wondering whether I need to look at the APN or something like that, but I do not know what the best settings should be. Anyone have this info?
Many thanks,
Nick
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APN shouldn't affect your mobile signal reception. It's just made for cellular data profiling. So you are able to connect to the internet.
How about try setting your network selection mode to manual and just select the top most usable network there?
Interesting... I am in Korea right now and have great signal... no issues at all. However, my data indicator is still bouncing between H and 3G, so that is very strange...
Despite the indicated low signal and bouncing data connection type indicator, the phone is working well, have not dropped a call recently and excellent phone call quality...
NO LTE connection in Korea though.. I assume that is probably due to ATT not having a LTE roaming data service agreement here? I believe my phone has at least one LTE band that it supported here.
Have fun..
Nick
I think u should talk to att people may be they can help? With the signal issue or the data connection issues!
Please let us know once u figure it out
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Hey everyone I just bought an unlocked HTC One and switched the SIM card from my iPhone 5 into the new phone. I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it, and installed ARHD Sense version and I am having problems with the phone getting LTE. No matter where I am, I am unable to acquire LTE on the phone. Even in places where I know for sure that it has LTE (due to getting it previously on my iPhone) I'm stuck on HSPA+. Anyone have any ideas what the problem might be? Faulty device maybe? Would rather not have to send the phone back. I have tried also changing the APN, which changed nothing.
brandenk0 said:
Hey everyone I just bought an unlocked HTC One and switched the SIM card from my iPhone 5 into the new phone. I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it, and installed ARHD Sense version and I am having problems with the phone getting LTE. No matter where I am, I am unable to acquire LTE on the phone. Even in places where I know for sure that it has LTE (due to getting it previously on my iPhone) I'm stuck on HSPA+. Anyone have any ideas what the problem might be? Faulty device maybe? Would rather not have to send the phone back. I have tried also changing the APN, which changed nothing.
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Do you have LTE turned on? You should be on LTE/GSM/WDCMA under Network Mode in settings. Wording may very depending on your ROM.
Yeah I have Lte enabled, which is why I'm confused as to why lte is not working.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
My best guess... Consider calling AT&T and switching off the iPhone data plan to a "smartphone" data plan. I don't know the differences between the 2 but it could be effecting your ability to connect to lte from the one.
viperlox said:
My best guess... Consider calling AT&T and switching off the iPhone data plan to a "smartphone" data plan. I don't know the differences between the 2 but it could be effecting your ability to connect to lte from the one.
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Hmm I've been considering it just I have seen other people just pop their iPhone 5 SIM into an unlocked/developer edition HTC One and have full LTE connectivity, and not to mention the fact that dealing with AT&T is a pain.
brandenk0 said:
Hmm I've been considering it just I have seen other people just pop their iPhone 5 SIM into an unlocked/dev edition the fact that dealing with AT&T is a pain.
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I know what ya mean... You could also try flashing at&ts latest radio... It probably only really effects AT&T based roms but it's supposed to open up some new lte bands. I used the link from post 95. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2325564&page=10 just make sure you grab the right one installing the one for cm 10 on a sense Rom will mess up your signal strength because it replaces some ril files while flashing the radio. It's a shot in the dark but wont hurt to try.
viperlox said:
My best guess... Consider calling AT&T and switching off the iPhone data plan to a "smartphone" data plan. I don't know the differences between the 2 but it could be effecting your ability to connect to lte from the one.
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That actually used to be a really common problem, but they seem to use the same data plans for all smartphones now. Still, might be worth a try.
brandenk0 said:
Hey everyone I just bought an unlocked HTC One and switched the SIM card from my iPhone 5 into the new phone. I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it, and installed ARHD Sense version and I am having problems with the phone getting LTE. No matter where I am, I am unable to acquire LTE on the phone. Even in places where I know for sure that it has LTE (due to getting it previously on my iPhone) I'm stuck on HSPA+. Anyone have any ideas what the problem might be? Faulty device maybe? Would rather not have to send the phone back. I have tried also changing the APN, which changed nothing.
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dial *#*#4636#*#*
click phone info
scroll down
click above "Radio Button"
choose "LTE Only"
reboot device
if didnt work choose "LTE CDMA"
if didnt work
flash another Radio (newer or older)
if didnt work take to to AT&T
Muhammad.Muayad said:
dial *#*#4636#*#*
click phone info
scroll down
click above "Radio Button"
choose "LTE Only"
reboot device
if didnt work choose "LTE CDMA"
if didnt work
flash another Radio (newer or older)
if didnt work take to to AT&T
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Thanks will try that out soon. Also, to the person above, tried flashing an AT&T radio, which didn't help anything, but was worth the shot. Thanks for the help guys.
EDIT: So tried out switching it to LTE Only and it wouldn't let the setting stick. It would automatically change the preferred network type back to what it was whenever selecting LTE Only. Also, the LTE, CDMA option did not change anything. Again thanks for the help, I'm just going to send it back and hope for the best with a new device.
I am ready for a new phone, but would like to be done with Verizon once they take away my unlimited plan. I read a few posts where it is said that the cdma phones would work on T-Mobile, the carrier I will be going to next. Can anyone confirm or deny the ability to use on both networks?
Thanks
Yes a Verizon Moto X will work on T-Mobile as it is SIM unlocked and supports band 4 LTE. It should be noted that it doesn't support AWS 3G which is the main band T-Mobile uses for their 3G service. If you are in a refarmed market then they will also offer 3G service on the PCS band which the Verizon Moto X does support. Most major cities are refarmed so as long as you are okay with the risk of ending up on 2G more often then you would on a T-Mobile Moto X then you should be okay. From my understanding T-Mobile is working on having almost all of their 3G service on the PCS band in order to free up AWS spectrum for LTE so this issue should become less of an issue over time.
With kit Kat on my vzw x, when I put my T-Mobile Sim in, I must manually enter T-Mobile APN settings to get working data and SMS. I haven't tried MMS.
With 4.2.2 Roms (version that the phone came with plus camera ota) APN settings came down automatically.
I get h+ in refarmed area.
landale said:
Yes a Verizon Moto X will work on T-Mobile as it is SIM unlocked and supports band 4 LTE. It should be noted that it doesn't support AWS 3G which is the main band T-Mobile uses for their 3G service. If you are in a refarmed market then they will also offer 3G service on the PCS band which the Verizon Moto X does support. Most major cities are refarmed so as long as you are okay with the risk of ending up on 2G more often then you would on a T-Mobile Moto X then you should be okay. From my understanding T-Mobile is working on having almost all of their 3G service on the PCS band in order to free up AWS spectrum for LTE so this issue should become less of an issue over time.
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I thought the VZW Moto X only supported Band 13 LTE?
binary visions said:
I thought the VZW Moto X only supported Band 13 LTE?
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It supports both. I've confirmed this with a T-Mobile SIM card and is also stated on the Verizon dev page.
http://developer.verizon.com/content/vdc/en/verizon-devices/pages/mot_moto_x.html
landale said:
It supports both. I've confirmed this with a T-Mobile SIM card and is also stated on the Verizon dev page.
http://developer.verizon.com/content/vdc/en/verizon-devices/pages/mot_moto_x.html
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Wow, that's interesting. Also interesting that the top section specifically references Band 4, yet the actual spectrum is not called out in the technical section below.
Thanks for the info. This is a surprisingly network-flexible phone... not used to that with Verizon phones.
binary visions said:
Wow, that's interesting. Also interesting that the top section specifically references Band 4, yet the actual spectrum is not called out in the technical section below.
Thanks for the info. This is a surprisingly network-flexible phone... not used to that with Verizon phones.
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Most of the upper level Verizon LTE phones released this year save the HTC One support band 4 either out of the box or will get a software update for it. Verizon is supposed to be making a big push over the next few months to add band 4 LTE service which is much needed here in Houston as our band 13 LTE service is so overloaded that sometimes I am lucky to top 3-4mbps.
Quite possible that Band 4 support was added in one of the updates that was pushed out, so most documentation wouldn't reference it. Best place to check would be the FCC docs when they tested the phone.
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I am ready for a new phone, but would like to be done with Verizon once they take away my unlimited plan. I read a few posts where it is said that the cdma phones would work on T-Mobile, the carrier I will be going to next. Can anyone confirm or deny the ability to use on both networks?
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I put a T-mobile SIM in my stock 16GB Verizon Moto x. Here is what works and doesn't.
First off, 4G works! in the South Jersey area and it is Blistering fast, I have exceeded 40MB speed test downloads twice, Several in the high 30s and I am avg in mid 20s. Uploads are averaging 20+/- . Compared to Verizon this is like comparing Fios to 1999 era dial up. the best I ever got on Verizon 4G was 14 download but average between 4 and 9 !
The Network notification switches a lot between 4G, "H" mode, whatever that is, just bars and another which I didn't catch quick enough to read ?
Battery has been amazing compared to my galaxy Nexus, I got 7.5 hours of Actual "Screen on Time" which included some GPS use and an hour of music streaming total phone up time was 34+ hours. How long it will perform like this is anyone's guess, today i got about 6.5 of Screen on time. I hope this inst a trend
Now for the bad news - Using it as a Phone. Incoming calls are fine but, making outgoing is a Pain in the A$$.
When I dial a number, (which is a hassle on this KitKat dialer) it often goes to the home screen or back to the dialer. The Call Fails. I am not sure if my dialer is buggy or its a compatibility problem. the KitKat Dialer on the Moto X is an exorcise in futility. Google are you listening? Why reinvent the wheel. All I want in my Dialer is a Number Pad! and a phone book.
When I Open dialer I see Recent calls up top, the whole middle section says all contacts and is otherwise blank, the bottom has the number pad icon, History and settings dots.
Clicking the number pad icon enlarges the bottom section, which then goes all white and removes the three icons. I have to then click the back arrow and re-click the number pad icon to bring it up the actual dialer. .
At this time I can dial. and then the call always fails on the first attempt. Sometimes it takes several attempts to go through.
When I click send on the dialer the 4G disappears and I am left with just the bars. they come back when call is done but sometimes take a few minutes to do so.
If you Kill the dialer app or swipe it away, coming back to it you will have the same issues when trying to get the number pad (two attempts) if you dont, the number pad will open on first attempt. but the calls will still fail on the first try.
I also cant use the internet when in a call, whether WiFi is on or off. Is this a T-mobile problem? I could use the net in Verizon when in a call when on 4G or WiFi
The Data is set to global mode but I have tried both the other settings. On boot up I get a warning saying the SIM is not recognized which I just swipe away.
I am also having this problem. After making a call, the music player and the phones "volume" aspects cease to work., Meaning, I get no sound out of the phone, Music, notifications alarms etc.. This happens almost every time and the only fix is a reboot
I disabled all Verizon Bloat and a lot of Moto Bloat as well This could be causing some of the bugs? But i have tested several different configurations all with the same outcomes.
Hope this helps and puts an end to the - Will it work or not questions. There seem to be a lot of Net Know it all's that flat out say a Verizon Moto x wont work with a T-Mobile SIM or some other undocumented "fact"
Would a verizon sim work in a sprint or T-moblie phone?
I popped in my T-Mobile Sim card and I only get hspa+. I definitely live in a LTE area. Hmm...
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im from india i got moto x navy blue customized but device wont get signal dont know whats wrong tried to reset still no luck even getting the signal but instantly disappears and showing emergency only
So, I have a Verizon Moto X and popped in my T-Mobile sim card today and LTE popped up after a few seconds (I live in Boston). My LTE speeds on the internet worked instantly. However, I tried to send a text message and it wouldn't send. Not sure if I need to do anything else to get voice/text to work fine. Any ideas?
if you're on 4.4, you need to manually add APNs
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if you're on 4.4, you need to manually add APNs
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I just popped in the T-Mo sim card again and now text works no issues and calls. Not sure what happened, but oh well.
Now, is there any difference in me using a Verizon Moto X on T-Mobile compared to an AT&T Moto X on T-Mobile. I have both and have been using an AT&T one, but I am just curious.
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Do you know where I can find the APNs to fix this? I know how to access it on the phone, but just so I can find it.
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http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090 <- That should have everything you need as far as the APN goes.
Guys I have customized Moto x but the gsm doesn't works not Able to connect network even im added apns what could be issue
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I fixed my issue. I ported my number into a Verizon unlimited data plan. Problem solved.
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Any help guys how to unlock gsm I can see gsm sim getting signal and immediately loosing and showing emergency only what could be issue
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Would a verizon sim work in a sprint or T-moblie phone?
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no because the sprint x is sim locked and doesn't use the same cdma setup, and the t-mobile doesn't support cdma/evdo that verizon uses for voice and 3g data
Using my N6 on Verizon, I frequently get messages that I have left my home and dont have data roaming enabled. I don't understand because my note 3 had no problem with Verizon. If I turn on data roaming for data might incur charges from some other provider? On the status bar it used to say either T-CDMA or Verizon Wireless, now it says 3100. My SIM is the same one I used in the note 3. If it matters I am using Liquid Smooth ROM and Franco r2 kernel. Voice seems to work. Any suggestions are welcome.
I'm having the same problem. I have to keep going back to stock to get LTE. I've tried liquid smooth, validus, and bliss pop and all gave me roaming and no LTE. All are their latest builds too. I've also tried popping in and out the sim card with reboots as well.
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I'm having the same problem. I have to keep going back to stock to get LTE. I've tried liquid smooth, validus, and bliss pop and all gave me roaming and no LTE. All are their latest builds too. I've also tried popping in and out the sim card with reboots as well.
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That is exactly what I am seeing. I'm on WiFi 99% of the time but when I leave the house I have no data.
Good ole Verizon making it impossible to do anything without them approving first. Its probably because Verizon doesn't want people to use the phone on their network before they release it.
They've never been good about nexus though. If you don't recall the whole galaxy nexus debacle
I had the galaxy nexus on Verizon but don't recall them interfering. I do hope that once they offer the 6 that our network access is unfettered, or the community will figure out how to make it work with custom ROMs.
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Same thing happening here. Goes away after like 10sec tho
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Same thing happening here. Goes away after like 10sec tho
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Your roaming goes away? I can't run any ROM without roaming on Verizon...
I noticed this issue on CM based ROMs. Any that are stock based are not effected by this bug, for me at least. I have spent a couple of hours trying different things out that people suggest but none of them have worked. I was able to get 3G to work on liquid, but no LTE. and it reverted after a reboot. I sure hope someone can get this fixed soon.
im running cm12 on my n6 and using verizon and it works perfectly. No issues.
on Bliss Pop the Status Bar icon is NOT roaming but if you pull down and check the tiles it says roaming. I dont think its actually roaming though...LTE Discovery tells me I am still LTE and so does Network Signal Info.
So I think its just in the UI.
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on Bliss Pop the Status Bar icon is NOT roaming but if you pull down and check the tiles it says roaming. I dont think its actually roaming though...LTE Discovery tells me I am still LTE and so does Network Signal Info.
So I think its just in the UI.
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You think it is still on vzw when it thinks it is roaming. If I enable roaming data I won't get a huge bill from some provider?
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You think it is still on vzw when it thinks it is roaming. If I enable roaming data I won't get a huge bill from some provider?
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Well, I cant swear to it for sure, but I from the apps I have I am still attached to the same cell tower, so not sure how that would equate to roaming.
LTE Discovery also shows as roaming, but all the other info also shows LTE. Same for Network Signal Info.
IANAL , but if your attached to your normal home cell towers, it would be hard for us to be roaming I would think....and hope
It may have to do with LTE vs 3G. When not on LTE it says 3100 (or 31000?) and that bus when I am "roaming". So confusing. I've gone back to stock rather than Liquid Smooth. I will try an AOSP ROM like Pure to see what happens. Although I'm not missing much on stock.
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Well, I cant swear to it for sure, but I from the apps I have I am still attached to the same cell tower, so not sure how that would equate to roaming.
LTE Discovery also shows as roaming, but all the other info also shows LTE. Same for Network Signal Info.
IANAL , but if your attached to your normal home cell towers, it would be hard for us to be roaming I would think....and hope
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So all I can add is that I just looked at my bill which ended today. I have been using BP for the last several days at least, and I have 0 roaming charges FWIW YMMV all those caveats....I have a Nationwide Talk 450 Min plan with the standard 2gb data.
HTH, but remember I added the caveats, caveat emptor
Any update?
I have same kind of problem too. Im afraid the bill will goes up by this.
Please let us know if there is a fix for this
Yeah same problem... I don't get why some Verizon users agent having the same problem. Would unrooting and doing a factory reset maybe fix the problem? Frustrated that I can't run a custom ROM without roaming...
Go take a look at your bill/usage online and see if things are showing as roaming. like I said mine looked fine. And it seems like an issue with quite a few roms from understanding.
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Go take a look at your bill/usage online and see if things are showing as roaming. like I said mine looked fine. And it seems like an issue with quite a few roms from understanding.
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I just tried out Broken and it has working LTE on Verizon! I'll have to look at my bill, haven't been on a custom ROM with roaming in effect for very long though, so I probably wouldn't be able to tell very easily.
I have a Stock Rooted, Unencrypted N6, with a few custom Tweaks. On VZW have not had ANY issues whatsoever with my service or LTE. Perhaps some custom ROM/Kernels might be causing these issues?
Stock seems to not have the issue. It is said herein that AOSP based ROMs don't either but that is not true in my ecperience. LTE Discovery says 31000 is Verizon Wireless so I believe that even though it thinks it is, it isn't roaming from VZW. I enabled data roaming and switched back to Liquid Smooth and I should be alright. Thanks to everyone for the insights.
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