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Hi everyone, I have a Milestone with the Leak 2.2 Froyo ROM from GOT, and I have it overclocked @ 1GHz. I thought it could play flawlessly 720p .mkv video files , but no matter what video player I've used, none of them can play the video without "freezes".. RockPlayer is really "close" to achieve it, but it the video loses frames.. Sound and subtitles are played perfect though.
Is it possible to play 720p on Droid/Milestone, has anyone of you done it already?
All my videos are in .mkv form, and the Series I am watching come out in 720p versions. It would be really nice if I could watch them on Milestone without having to transcode them.
Thank you very much for your time.
For what's it worth, I could never get the Galaxy S (several iterations) to run 720p MKV files without crashing/freezing after 30 seconds or so. Everything seems smooth, and then, the videos just freeze.
They were standard 720p TV shows that you download from Usenet.
Incidentally, my iPhone 4 played 720p MOV files without any problems.
I suspect that the Milestone/Droid is capable of running the films smoothly after overclock.
is there a player that can now play 720p on milestone?
Try VPlayer.
Thanks to the people over at Modaco I found out that a new Rock player is out
The latest 1.5.x release adds network streaming (via browser integration) and optimisations for Tegra 2 hardware.
If you have another ver. installed please uninstall it. Go to the market install 1.5.0 when you start it, it will have an update to 1.5.1 and once installed just activate it. (if you have a paid copy) if not it will have ads paid is only $9.99
The new update works great, this thing fly's and has loaded everything I throw at it.
Web streaming is easy I have Tversity setup on my home pc and a link to the IP in my browse I just select what I want to see and the stream starts right away in rockplayer.
I am still testing it, but so far this thing is WIN!
Really? Sweeeet. Ima try out som HD Videos now see how they run!
Just saw it on my Captivate. Trying it now on the Gtab
Let's see it play 720p MKV files natively. I'll be really excited if it can. Will try later.
I just tried a .mov (don't know how it was encoded) it played but like 1 fps and sound dropped out after. 1 minute. I then tried an H.264 .mp4. Same deal. Both were 1080p.
What is the gtab supposed to play 1080p in? Any one know?
The only video I had on my Gtab was a 720p 3211kbps XviD with AC3 audio. I tried playing it using hardware decode and it played beautifully but with no audio
Haven't had time to try anything else yet. Will post results when I get a chance.
So I am pretty disappointed with this update. I still can't play H.264 or mkv MPEG4 files in 1080p. The Tegra 2 is supposed to have an on-chip processor for H.264, but this does not seem to take advantage of it.
Thanks for the headsup on this one.
I downloaded and installed.
When I play my 720p mp4 movies, not sure how they are encoded, it asks me if I want hardware decoding mode or software. Which one should I pick?
Coty
I always try hardware first if it fails then I go software.
OK, so after a bunch of trial and error I got 1080p playing in Rockplayer 1.51 with hardware decoding. The file NEEDS to be an MP4 container encoded with MPEG. I used Handbrake to get it done. Everything else I tried doesn't work one way or another, either FC, no sound or no video. I hope this helps someone.
Using 1.51 with TnT 3.0, hardware acceleration mode resets my Gtablet. Screen blacks out and then reboots, starting at the fireworks streamer spash screen.
Tried multiple times with different files with same result.
yea the tab is unable to play videos encoded in High Profile due to hardware limitations with the Tegra chip. it only works with Baseline and Main profile. from my experience, Main gives a cleaner picture than Baseline does. if its encoded in High, the video will just stutter.
was excited to see that the new Rockplayer was Tegra optimized but it will never play 720p or 1080p vids without being converted to those profiles first. was really hoping i can just drag and drop my downloaded 720p tv shows into the tab and watch it but eh well. i need to figure out how to reencode my files while keeping it as close to 720p quality as possible.
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yea the tab is unable to play videos encoded in High Profile due to hardware limitations with the Tegra chip. it only works with Baseline and Main profile. from my experience, Main gives a cleaner picture than Baseline does. if its encoded in High, the video will just stutter.
was excited to see that the new Rockplayer was Tegra optimized but it will never play 720p or 1080p vids without being converted to those profiles first. was really hoping i can just drag and drop my downloaded 720p tv shows into the tab and watch it but eh well. i need to figure out how to reencode my files while keeping it as close to 720p quality as possible.
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I must be unlucky, since 1.51 hardware mode crashes and resets my Gtablet with TnT 3.0 after playing a few seconds.
Why do you want to encode at 720p when the Gtab is not 720p? Seems overkill- if the files are for the Gtablet. I can see if just copying over to play, but if redoing for G, why not custom res to native of device?
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I must be unlucky, since 1.51 hardware mode crashes and resets my Gtablet with TnT 3.0 after playing a few seconds.
Why do you want to encode at 720p when the Gtab is not 720p? Seems overkill- if the files are for the Gtablet. I can see if just copying over to play, but if redoing for G, why not custom res to native of device?
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well not 720p but at least close to it. the reason is that it will cause blockiness otherwise, especially for the scenes that have a lot of movement. i want to keep everything the way it is but using the Main profile instead of High profile, which the original vid is encoded in. i think i've gotten it pretty close as the original file but still noticeable blockiness in high movement scenes. i'm a guy thats a stickler for quality video and audio. don't mind me lol.
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i need to figure out how to reencode my files while keeping it as close to 720p quality as possible.
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I convert my TV recordings using a free program called SUPER:
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html#Dnload
Lots of features, including a drag and drop queue to batch convert multiple files.
It's a little confusing at first, but has a good instruction page, and tool tips.
Right mouse click brings up different menus, depending on what your click.
Double clicking a file in the queue shows information about the source file.
Check the High Quality, and Top Quality boxes, 3600 or higher bitrate.
MP4 container, MPEG-4 codec, and AAA LC audio works on Gtab.
As for screen resolution from 720p source file, there doesn't seem to be much difference above 800 wide on the Gtab, so I set scale size to 800x448 for 16:9 video that fills the screen (slight black bands top & bottom, but scaled correct).
Good compromise between file size, and quality.
If you choose the original scaling, it converts the fastest, but huge file size.
Some programs like "No Ordinary Family" have audio in channel 2, so if there is no audio, change default to channel 2 in the settings before you convert.
Hope this helps.
I might be the odd one out with this program. I have had horrible experiences with compatibility, function, and even replicating the same failures.
I have a series of files all encoded by the same person form a "podcast" type video series. Some of the files will "load" in hardware mode(i say load because often sound doesn't work) and some will not. The catch is all of them load and fail sometimes.
I noticed virtually no change in the tegra "optimization" I am really disappointed frankly. I have no reason to buy the software if it doesn't support what I need and I was really hoping this iteration would provide me with some kind of noticeable improvement. I even had to use titanium to wipe data for rockplayer for it to launch any video at all. It also force closes opening videos that used to play perfectly in the old version.
I guess multimedia and android still don't mix =/
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I having success with HP video using Mediacoder. Both hardware and software rendering are successful with deinterlacing, 6 B-frames and 1920 by 1080 resolution.. My source is AVCHD content, so I am having some interesting issues with audio though....
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I having success with HP video using Mediacoder. Both hardware and software rendering are successful with deinterlacing, 6 B-frames and 1920 by 1080 resolution.. My source is AVCHD content, so I am having some interesting issues with audio though....
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what does deinterlacing and 6 b-frames do exactly?
also can you post the rest of your settings? i've been following someone else's settings on a Droid forum and they don't work that well with the tab.
For what it's worth, VLC for Android is reportedly in the works for early 2011.
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For what it's worth, VLC for Android is reportedly in the works for early 2011.
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Great news i look foward to trying it out.
With all the new roms forcolor nook out what is the status of its ability of playing videos, especially 720 mp4 and mkvs downloaded from the internet without having to reencode the files?
Which rom/player combination is best for this?
I'd like to know also. Currently using Rockplayer on HC from the EMMC, and videos from my camera shot at 640x 480 and esp 848x480 are quite slow and jerky. Definitely not something to show someone else.
Anyone have recommendations?
DSP/HW accel is not working in all non-stock roms and is being worked on, but even in the stock rooted, I doubt it plays 720p well enough, unless it's been encoded into an mp4 or something that's natively supported.
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DSP/HW accel is not working in all non-stock roms and is being worked on, but even in the stock rooted, I dou
bt it plays 720p well enough, unless it's been encoded into an mp4 or something that's natively supported.
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That is not true. Hardware decoding works in Froyo, just not in CM7 or HC.
It is true that files need be rencoding in compliant MP4 files for them to work. You need a dual core tablet for downloaded mkv support.
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That is not true. Hardware decoding works in Froyo, just not in CM7 or HC.
It is true that files need be rencoding in compliant MP4 files for them to work. You need a dual core tablet for downloaded mkv support.
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My bad - I only tried nookie froyo on the SD and used it for less than 10 minutes.
I can't get hardware to work in Froyo on either Vital player or Rock Player. Anyone getting hardware decoding to work on Froyo?
How are you doing it?
no hardware accceleration on nookie froyo either for me. Able to play 720p AVI smoothly by using vital player neon on software decoding.
If working hardware decoding means that mp4 can be played with standart Movies application, than yes, it works for me in Nookie Froyo on eMMC.
Sounds like Nookie Froyo is the one to get (for now) if you want h/w acceleration for video.
I've been trying to get high quality video to run on my 2.1 NC for a few days and can't seem to get the audio to match up with the video. mp4 video, 800x480, 1200 bitrate, 25 gps looks great but the sound is off. Pissed.
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I've been trying to get high quality video to run on my 2.1 NC for a few days and can't seem to get the audio to match up with the video. mp4 video, 800x480, 1200 bitrate, 25 gps looks great but the sound is off. Pissed.
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That bitrate is slightly too high.
I tried all the video players I could grab from the market with my rooted NC.
Rockplayer actually doesn't seem to be very good. It lagged at times. I'm not sure it's using full hardware acceleration, or maybe it's not able to fully use or is not recognizing the NC's hardware acceleration.
The best player for getting finicky files to work was vPlayer. It has a "high quality" mode which I'm guessing supplements the hardware acceleration with software decoding to make up for features which the hardware doesn't support. It was able to play video files that the stock video player and others refused to play. I think it was playing them slower than full speed though - was hard to tell with the video samples I used.
It is a pay app with a free trial. When not in "high quality" mode, it would still play the finicky video files, but with visible errors in the decoding. A couple of the other players also did this. I guess instead of refusing to play, they just throw the file at the hardware and display whatever comes out. But vPlayer was the only one with an option to "fix" the errors. If you're not encoding your own videos, definitely give this one a shot.
I'm using mVideoPlayer for now. It's limited to the same file formats the stock player can play, but I really like the interface (swipe to seek forward/back, long-press in corners to adjust volume/brightness). And it automatically generates lists of videos from a customizable directory list. No more having to search through a file browser - my videos on both the emmc and microsd now show up in one big list.
The main problem is you need a back button to use it. If you don't hit back to stop playing a file, the next time you try to play any video file, it resumes playing the old file where you left off. But if you use softkeys to give you a back button, it puts an ugly circle on top of your video...
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That is not true. Hardware decoding works in Froyo, just not in CM7 or HC.
It is true that files need be rencoding in compliant MP4 files for them to work. You need a dual core tablet for downloaded mkv support.
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Not really true. My Samsung galaxy plays 720p mkv's without issues. That's a single core phone.
I think in reaility we just have to wait for hardware decoding to be ported over.
really hope dev can get h/w acceleration going for custom rom, especially cm7. On related issue, my NC with cm7 can play flash video and frame rate is low though (looks like slide show with 360P video).
Not NC related (haven't rooted yet), but having just played with (thanks to this thread) vPlayer, I can say it is definitely the superior program. My EVO handled a 720p .mkv file that rockplayer gave 6-10fps on, it was watchable and had no sync issues besides the occasional slow-down.
+1 for the tip.
I believe hardware decode works on Android 2.1 Auto Nooter 3.0. I have that installed and it works in rock player and vital player.
One thing to note is the hardware decoder can only decode a max width of 854. So your 720p files will not work with hardware encoding. You will have to re-encode the files.
I used this guide http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...using-handbrake-convert-video-nook-color.html and it seemed to work fine.
Guys, i have a problem with my i9001.
My phone is rooted and i installed the gpu "new" drivers from the development page. I have upgraded from 2.3.3 that comes default when i buy it to 2.3.5 through KIES, not through ODIN, so it's with vodafone ****s or whatever.
Anyway, the problem is the following:
I want to watch some mkv .720p tv shows on it (like dexter, supernatural, etc) and i tried with a couple of players but every single player will decode the mkv in "SW mode" not hardware, so it won't play properly and it will lag. I tried with bsplayer, mx video player, mobo player pro and even DICEPLAYER (the full version).
So, any ways of playing 720p smooth ? i guess it's because of Adreno 205 which is weaker than Galaxy S gpu.
Come on, 130 views and no replies? sorry for double posting.
Oh, and i didn't installed any "speed" scripts like adrenaline shot or whatever.
Fact is i just bought the phone and i don't want to lose my warranty already. Do i lose it when i install adrenaline shot for instance ?
Update: My actual ROM is I9001BUKP2, which is Vodafone branded and my phone is simlocked (most likely).
Can this be the problem ?
Update 2: Very weird thing happened. I put an episode from The Walking Dead, 350 mb .avi to run with MX Video Player and surprise, even .avi LAGS in hardware decoder, but i'm lucky that MX Video Player got S/W Decoder FAST and it played almost smoothly (95%, still little fps drops).
After that, i tried with an episode of Grimm, this time 720p, .mkv but WEB-DL (even more better than normal 720p releases of groups like IMMERSE, CTU, etc) and the HARDWARE DECODER went AVAILABLE this time, but it lags terribly. I tried with S/W Decoder FAST and lol, it worked almost smoothly.
So, what the hell is the problem ?
Could it be my I9001BUKP2 firmware ? it's official, updated with KIES, i guess it's the same as this one on XDA.
bumpy ^^ ........
still bump .... come on :|
Update: I am now with XXKPS 2.3.6, still the same problems. MKV 720p are laggy, and every single .avi movie is laggy in hardware decoder as well. only softare decoder can decode avi movies to be smooth, but 720p still be laggy.
hey guys .. i curently have feamod v.1.3 based on CWM 5 0 2 7 .... what change if i flash 1.4 ? i use cranium RC7 update 1 with kernel v6 cranium 1900 ghz
but i wanna flash broodrom RC2 final but i don'w know what kernel to use... is v6 1900 cranium ok wit broodrom ?
Well then, how about re-encoding your movies using e.g. xmedia recode or SUPER or whatever? Choose a lower resolution. That's a phone, don't expect it to play HD content - on the small screen that does not make any sense at all.
Well, for others it works perfectly, only i seem to have problems. And anyway, samsung is reporting that this phone can run 720p movies without a problem.
@arialth, GET THE **** OUT.
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same issue here, i tried a 720p movie on my i9001 and it used SW decoding in mx player.
I noticed one thing though, after installing mx, it didnt ask for any codec to be installed, i expected it to ask me to install the ARM7 codec??
Same problem here, the moment you want to watch a 720p mkv video you can't use HW decoder.
I am using 0.1.0 cm10 ROM from Ivendor with 3.0 Kernel.
Use VLC, it supports hardware decoding of all media formats.
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Use VLC, it supports hardware decoding of all media formats.
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Already tried that, I've done some search around and I think it just can't handle a 720p mkv.
Bear in mind that the I9001 has a better CPU but a worser GPU, so it's possible the I9000 is able to handle 720p mkv better.
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And anyway, samsung is reporting that this phone can run 720p movies without a problem.
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Also, Samsung does indeed report that the device can run 720p movies in mp4 or whatever format.
Seeing as they're own video player doesn't have a mkv codec it is possible there just isnt mkv hardware support.
Hi,
I am trying to find out following:
I would like to use Galaxy Tab 8.9 (7300/stock HoneyComb 3.1) to play video on my HDTV (Full HD via HDMI adapter). However almost all the apps that I have tested seem to produce dropped frames or problems with sync with audio/video during playback for number of mkv/mp4/avi media files I have tested. I was able to play normally some of the full HD videos but that was in only few cases while most of 720p/1080p would have poor playback. So I am looking for an advice:
1) Will updating to ICS (now only custom roms available) help with video playback?
2) Are there any apps that you found that can play most of full hd videos? I have tried almost all the popular ones but could not get to cover full HD?
3) Will overclocking help with decoding? I saw several posts that indicate that some custom roms support overclocking. In some cases I got SW based playback to give almost good playback (HW based decoding did not work in all cases).
4) What is proper approach for mounting external drives that are in formats such as NTFS/exFAT? I am looking at this as some files might be bigger then 4GB limit of FAT32.
5) Is there a device that I can stream to 1080p from Galaxy Tab 8.9? Of course assuming that Galaxy Tab 8.9 can stream 1080p...
6) Do you have any other advice?
7) There are number of custom ROMs available (as listed in http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1441). Which one would you recommend for best video performance?
Kind regards,
Bo
Just got a Tab 8.9 and really struggling with this as well so keen to hear responses.
1) Will updating to ICS (now only custom roms available) help with video playback?
The GTab8.9 is Tegra 2 powered and will always struggle with HD playback, regardless of ROM or player. Good video player apps, I like MXPlayer, can mitigate it a little.
2) Are there any apps that you found that can play most of full hd videos? I have tried almost all the popular ones but could not get to cover full HD?
I like MX Player, but Vplayer is solid, but costs money. You will not find one that can play all 720p videos smoothly, and forget about an 1080p videos. Unless the bitrate is so low as to basically be low def, it won't happen.
3) Will overclocking help with decoding? I saw several posts that indicate that some custom roms support overclocking. In some cases I got SW based playback to give almost good playback (HW based decoding did not work in all cases).
Maybe a little, not worth it IMO.
4) What is proper approach for mounting external drives that are in formats such as NTFS/exFAT? I am looking at this as some files might be bigger then 4GB limit of FAT32.
I'm not sure on this, I will defer to others.
5) Is there a device that I can stream to 1080p from Galaxy Tab 8.9? Of course assuming that Galaxy Tab 8.9 can stream 1080p...
The GTab8.9 will struggle to play most 720p, forget about any 1080p.
6) Do you have any other advice?
I like the GTab 8.9 for its size, but a media power house it is not. If you want to play all manner of HD videos, then you're going to need a tablet with a Tegra 3 or better. Perhaps the upcoming Kindle Fire HD 8.9 or Nook+ HD 9, with their OMAP4470/SGX544s, will handle better and keep the smaller size.
7) There are number of custom ROMs available (as listed in http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1441). Which one would you recommend for best video performance?
I have not tried any custom roms myself yet. The video playback is a hardware limitation and a known weak point of the Tegra 2 SoC. Roms and players can attempt to mitigate it, but its not possible to resolve it.
Try vlc
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Try vlc
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For some reason VLC is not compatible with the device...
I've got my NTFS flash stick running perfectly... with USM mass storage watcher...
Flash rom with ics by tracid..no problem with 720p playback even with stock video player :good:
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Flash rom with ics by tracid..no problem with 720p playback even with stock video player :good:
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Did you have problems with 720p with HoneyComb before? How much did it improve your performance?
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Did you have problems with 720p with HoneyComb before? How much did it improve your performance?
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Hc laggy on 720p playback..with ics rom no laggy wih 720p playback even with stock video player..or try bsplay**..support hardware acceleration..
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Hc laggy on 720p playback..with ics rom no laggy wih 720p playback even with stock video player..or try bsplay**..support hardware acceleration..
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The BS player gave me the best playback but not always smooth on 720p. Thanks for the info.... Great news....
2) In MX Player, turn on H/W+ mode in Settings>Decoding. This plays back 720p video (with a tiny audio lag) on stock Honeycomb 3.2. It's not going to do much to help you with 1080p though -- it's probable that nothing will.
you can run 720p or 1080p fluid.. spawndk from the eepad transformer forum:
"The Tegra2 chipset are designed as a mobile sollution chipset - to support web 2 standards. The highest encoding profile used here (Youtube 1080p) are 1080p baseline and this the Tegra2 chipset will both record and play with no troubles. As well as 720p baseline and main profile - but only upto L3.1 with some limitations. It doesnt matter which container is used (mkv, mp4, m4v, avi etc) and it doesnt matter if resolution are 1080p - its only a matter of the encoding profile used to encode the supported video format H264
Tegra2 will NEVER be able to decode High profile L4.1 encodes - it's not a software issue, neither in terms of Honeycomb or Nvidia libs, its simply a limitation of the abilities of the hardwaredecoder in the Tegra2 chipset and this will never change. It is also not a limitation in the Transformer specifically, but a limitation in ALL Tegra2 based tablets and mobilephones.
This is the same reason why some mediaplayers like the Boxee Box that was originally intended to use the Tegra2 moved on to an Intel chipset before launch.
In short the Tegra2 chipset will support playback of videos encoded in 1080p or 720p resolution, using the H264 video codec and AAC audio codec - as long as the video are encoded after the baseline profile standard
It will not now or ever - play 1080p/720p encodes encoded after the high profile standard."
So basically, you have to reencode videos just like on ipad..