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Welp I was fixing to pay Cingular $350 to prematurely cancel our contract b/c I was about ready to throw my POS 8125 out the window. Then someone referred me here and I'm cautiously optimistic that my blood pressure will once again be below 250/150.
But after reading through alllll the threads on alllll the roms...I'm a little more confused now than before.
Simply put, which ROM for my 8125 is:
Fastest?
Most Stable?
The custom AKU 2.2 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=51047 ) was recommended to me...but now I've gotten lost...
Thanks.
I saw your thread on hofo. This place is 100x cooler and more helpful.
I've had my phone for less than six weeks and read a ton right before buying the phone. As soon as I bought it, I did all of this and haven't had any problems at all.
Get lokiwiz first. I used v0.2b and it worked fine for me. Be sure to take extra time to read the instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33796
Select your ROM and perform the upgrade:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/
I selected Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE_CF2_A2DP-fixed.exe from the directory. This is version 2.17 and I haven't had any problems at all. I've been following discussions on newer ROMs and plan to stay where I am for now. You can run this through Activesync and don't even need to establish a partnership. I did my phone, then 3 others all the same way (my wife's and then two for the neighbors) and didn't have a single problem with any of them. Running from the point at which you open the box and start going, this takes anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour once you do this over and over. I've only done this once per phone but seem to be operating a free upgrade service.
Finally, you'll want to hack the registry.
There are tons of registry hacks here:
http://www.indippc.com/v3/index.php?topic=322.msg2018;topicseen
and here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38957
You'll probably want to use Resco explorer and their registry editor. Those are nice because you can try them before buying them and make sure you like them. There are others and I tried Total Commander first, but found the Resco product more effective for importing the .reg files I'd created to help speed up the edits.
Hope this helps!
100Tbps, that's awesome info. Thanks for pointing this out. There are a ton of threads with tons of info scattered through and it's easy to miss something. I remember reading that somebody suggested putting all this info in one thread or post and you seem to have done most of it.
One question, is creating a .reg file for WM5 just as easy as creating it for XP/2K? I would like to put my favorite tweaks in one .reg file and import one file.
Thanks!
Well with such a great reply like that, I'd have to agree that this place is beter than hofo.
Concerning Rosco, do you think that it would be better than SPB Pocket Plus? I only ask b/c I read on hofo that Resco slowed the 8125 down more than SPB....but I've been running SPB and it definately slows down my today screen refresh. Does anyone know anything about this?
Also (I posted this in hofo, but I have yet to get an intelligent reply), how does everyone's video run on their 8125? I'm wondering if something is wrong with mine b/c pretty much everything that I try to play only plays at about 0.5 frame per second but with normal video. For example, navigating to the windows media favorite that comes bundled into the favorites menu while my 8125 is connected via USB to my broadband connection, and then clicking on ANY of the videos (they are either 37kb or 54kb) gives me this problem. It's reallllly annoying as I was hoping to later hook up my 8125 with a slingbox--but if I can't get any videos to play normall...this obviosly won't be feasable. Is this par for the 8125? Or is mine just screwy? And yes, this is after both a fresh factory ROM installation and the new 2.2 beta I just installed. Same problem.
Thanks!
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100Tbps, that's awesome info. Thanks for pointing this out. There are a ton of threads with tons of info scattered through and it's easy to miss something. I remember reading that somebody suggested putting all this info in one thread or post and you seem to have done most of it.
One question, is creating a .reg file for WM5 just as easy as creating it for XP/2K? I would like to put my favorite tweaks in one .reg file and import one file.
Thanks!
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Creating the .reg file is very easy. I used Total Commander on my phone to create the .reg files. When I hacked my wife's phone, I discovered Total Commander didn't recognize the .reg files and that's when I tried Resco's product. Their program registered the .reg files but even better, has an import button. So I placed all my .reg files in one place and one by one went through and imported them. I have just under 20 of them. If I ever get time to figure out how to do this, I'll probably try to condense them into larger .regs or learn how to make a .cab.
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Well with such a great reply like that, I'd have to agree that this place is beter than hofo.
Concerning Rosco, do you think that it would be better than SPB Pocket Plus? I only ask b/c I read on hofo that Resco slowed the 8125 down more than SPB....but I've been running SPB and it definately slows down my today screen refresh. Does anyone know anything about this?
Also (I posted this in hofo, but I have yet to get an intelligent reply), how does everyone's video run on their 8125? I'm wondering if something is wrong with mine b/c pretty much everything that I try to play only plays at about 0.5 frame per second but with normal video. For example, navigating to the windows media favorite that comes bundled into the favorites menu while my 8125 is connected via USB to my broadband connection, and then clicking on ANY of the videos (they are either 37kb or 54kb) gives me this problem. It's reallllly annoying as I was hoping to later hook up my 8125 with a slingbox--but if I can't get any videos to play normall...this obviosly won't be feasable. Is this par for the 8125? Or is mine just screwy? And yes, this is after both a fresh factory ROM installation and the new 2.2 beta I just installed. Same problem.
Thanks!
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I actually don't have the Resco product installed on my phone. When I hacked mine, I used Total Commander for regedits, then used Resco on the three other phones. I actually installed it when I was done, but I'm more than likely going to go back and buy it the next time I need to do this. I haven't tred the SPB product so I can't say.
For videos, this might be a more complex discussion.
If you mean recording videos, there is a thread around here explaining registry hacks to increase the frame rate when recording so it plays back smoother. I thought I had it in my collection but don't see it, but I do recall seeing a discussion about this.
If you mean streaming videos over the net or files placed on the SD card or in memory, it could be one of a few things. You may need to overclock the player to get it to play more effectively (this is 100% a guess), try a different player (I've seen people bow down to TCPMP), or the bitrate may be too much and / or an oversized video. Hopefully others will chime in with their experiences about any of these avenues since I've said a bunch without really offering anything concrete. I believe TCPMP is free so that may be the easiest thing to try.
thanks.
I'm actually talking about streaming any video. It's not a bandwidth problem b/c I've tested it while connected to my home broadband over usb. And it's not the server b/c I can turn right aroung and stream the same crappy qualit 37kbs video on my pc and it plays fine. It just seems like the 8125 should be able to handle this w/o any problems...
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Concerning Rosco, do you think that it would be better than SPB Pocket Plus? I only ask b/c I read on hofo that Resco slowed the 8125 down more than SPB....but I've been running SPB and it definately slows down my today screen refresh. Does anyone know anything about this?
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I use Spb Pocket Plus and I like it a lot. It does slow down the 8125 a bit but I don't think it's any worse than Resco's product, though I don't remember using Resco's. However, SBSH's iLauncher is pretty good. It has a ton of options, much more than Pocket Plus, but Pocket Plus just seems to be a more refined product. You might want to give iLauncher a try.
http://www.sbsh.net/products/ilauncher/
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I have just under 20 of them. If I ever get time to figure out how to do this, I'll probably try to condense them into larger .regs or learn how to make a .cab.
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I am soon to be owner of Cingular 8125, so I am reading every thread I can find on how to improve HTC Wizard.
Could you possibly zip all of .reg files and post them in this thread?
Thanks for your help!
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100Tbps said:
I have just under 20 of them. If I ever get time to figure out how to do this, I'll probably try to condense them into larger .regs or learn how to make a .cab.
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I am soon to be owner of Cingular 8125, so I am reading every thread I can find on how to improve HTC Wizard.
Could you possibly zip all of .reg files and post them in this thread?
Thanks for your help!
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I was going to ask the same thing lol
I divided these into things I think anyone would want (the general folder) and things that may just be personal preference (the personal preference folder). For example, some people may use Hotmail and thus not need to remove it from the list of Inbox options - and not everyone uses Microsoft Voice Command and wouldn't want to change their dialer to something not installed - so these are in the personal preference folder.
These are what I extracted from my phone after I edited them manually (using the 2.17 ROM summiter cooked for us) and created the reg file for my own future use in case I re-flashed. I think it's important to mention newer ROMs may not need some of these because they may already be there because Microsoft (or summiter, the grande provolone of ROM cooking) enabled them - or the registry may be different. So my suggestion is manually verify the path is present before importing to make sure you're actually getting what you want.
Thanks for that
I installed the fixed 2.17 and so far so good...except for one rather big problem--the battery meter no longer works. It just tells me that I always have 100% battery life and the icon at the top taskbar now looks filled in with a single line diagonally across the center. How do I fix this? I also should mention that I'm now using Resco Explorer 2005 5.40...so I don't know if the problem is related to the firmware or Resco.
Any advice? Anyone seen this before?
After sleuthing through the forum archives I have finally found out why I have not been getting missed call notifications on my phone. The MyFaves collection of programs (I do not know which one) are recording the missed calls in their own log, not the one that the phone uses to give notifications. I am using ultimate launcher and the Myfaves Today-plugin is hidden.
The problem:
When contacts on the "myfaves list" call and get missed, there is ONLY a notification on the myfaves application. If the today plugin for myfaves is disabled you will only be able to see that you've missed a call by looking at your call history.
The suggested solutions:
1) Many have suggested removing "list" from HKLM/security/phones/nolog registry.
What happens to me is that the list file is regenerated every soft-reset!!
2) I have used the deletemy5messagecenter.cab.
The cab, they do nothing. All it did was make my5msgcenter unrecognizable.
3)Flash the wing with any ROM not containing myfaves
Maybe some other time
My own questions:
1) How do I permanently remove 'List'?
2)Is there a way to remove My5App.exe, My5MsgCenter.exe, My5Service.exe from my windows folder? They are always checked as "read only" and "system" files.
Thanks for your help!
Yeah, MyFaves can be managed through my-tmobile.com, and I'd really rather not having the app on my Wing. Many times when I press the Talk button twice (to dial the last person I called) it will dial the last Fave I called... not cool.
I'll prob end up flashing a custom ROM onto my Wing eventually, but if there's an easy way to get rid of MyFaves in the mean time, that would be great.
NS
I found this reg edit in a thread here of people who wanted to use for non-myfave plans.
HKLM > SOFTWARE > HTC > My5 > SMSC > CmdGet > StateRequest
Open value ClientService and change the value from 1 to 0
The above steps work for a while but then the same issue started up even with the myafve app disabled so I tried fooling around with the other settings within the myfave reg sections but they restored to the default setting after a reset & the same problems continued. I finally restored my phone from a back I had & disabled it again. After that everything was in place but I found at the start of my current bill cycle I got a ota that set the myfave display back on my phone. I had to enable it & turn the display off & disable it all over again. So far all my calls are being logged with the custom tones I have in place.
1. Install a custom ROM.
2. Install HTCHome if it's not in the ROM you chose.
3. Setup HTCHome to handle your "top 5".
4. Use tmobile's site or call in to change the top five when you have to.
Now you have your problem fixed and oodles of more free RAM, storage space and a much faster device.
Hmmmm... it does seem like the only way is to install a custom ROM on there. This is because the software is self regenerating. Too bad... I guess the reason I couldn't find an answer is because this problem doesn't exist because everyone has custom roms.
blizzardbear said:
Hmmmm... it does seem like the only way is to install a custom ROM on there. This is because the software is self regenerating. Too bad... I guess the reason I couldn't find an answer is because this problem doesn't exist because everyone has custom roms.
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Well.... I can tell you how to permanently kill my5 until your next hard reset if you want me to...
Yes Please! Do Tell!
p.s. VG Cats rocks. Too bad he's been kinda in a slump lately.
blizzardbear said:
Yes Please! Do Tell!
p.s. VG Cats rocks. Too bad he's been kinda in a slump lately.
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Well... under hklm/services disable the SMSC something or other...
Then under \windows\startup items, rename the my5 item. Powercycle then delete the item. That should disable it from turning itself on. A custom ROM will always be better, though.
If I had two phones, I'd make a video comparison of a stock ROM and a custom ROM...
As far as VGCats go, they do rock, and I haven't gone to his site in a while because I noticed he stopped updating it. What's up with him?
Thanks for the reply my friend. I'll try it out.
Scott from VG cats got busy with his personal life, but he promised regular updates a few weeks ago.
Update:
Okay, So I had already removed the my5 link from my \windows\startup folder. Then I Changed the registry entry at hklm\software\htc\my5\smsc\cmd get\staterequest. I changed value of 1 ==> 0 for "ClientUIOnOff".
After a soft reset The ClientUIOnOff was still set to 0. I no longer had a myfav icon in my today tray.
After calling my phone and initiating a missed call. My phone would still not notify me of a missed call from a fav of mine.
I'm going to try and delete the "list" registry value I mentioned earlier... stay tuned viewers of few.
update to my update:
"list" still returns! oh dear... I'll have to work on this tomorrow. Thanks for everyone's help!
So I went into the registry and went to HKLM > SOFTWARE > HTC > My5. I changed the name of the "My5" folder to "disabled My5" folder. soft-reseted and upon reset I deleted my "list" entry in the registry. Wahlah It worked. A missed call from a myfav was notified by my phone!
Did you remove the SMSC service from the registry? Oh and I forgot, also from the hklm/init
I just recently upgraded to the wing. So far...........it's had it's ups and downs with me. As with any phone, there are somethings I like, and other's I don't.
I wanted to ask a few of you a couple of questions. Before asking, I know others have asked some of these questions on here already, but I wanted to ask them from a n00b's pov. I haven't modded squat with this phone yet and don't really know much about it to be honest. I did successfully mod the living daylights outta my V3r, so.........I know how to follow directions lol. But as far as being directed to a website to download.............won't exactly work lol. Anywho, here are my questions:
1) How do I increase program memory?
2) I had a video file on my phone that played smoothly. I had some issues with the wing (long story), but long story short, I had to do a hard reset. I've only had it like 5 days (TMo 3rd level tech support told me to reset). Ever since that reset (and having to reput that exact same video with no changes made), the video now plays choppy on the phone. Any idea why?
3) Are there any programs that I can remove without damaging any of the system files?
4) For the life of me, I never have understood why phones come prestocked with those goffy photos, gifs, and other garbage. Is there a way to remove these?
5) Is there a way to increase the size of contact pictures when they call?
6) I was also reading that there's supposed to be some kind of "update". What will it do and does anyone know when it's coming out?
I appologize for asking some questions that have already been asked, but I really need someone to walk me through "step by step", especially considering how much this phone costs. I DEFINITLY don't wanna mess it up. If someone, ANYONE, can help, I'd be greatly appreciative.
Oh yeah, one more question. Any tips and/or tricks that the phone does that the manual doesn't tell you?
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I just recently upgraded to the wing. So far...........it's had it's ups and downs with me. As with any phone, there are somethings I like, and other's I don't.
I wanted to ask a few of you a couple of questions. Before asking, I know others have asked some of these questions on here already, but I wanted to ask them from a n00b's pov. I haven't modded squat with this phone yet and don't really know much about it to be honest. I did successfully mod the living daylights outta my V3r, so.........I know how to follow directions lol. But as far as being directed to a website to download.............won't exactly work lol. Anywho, here are my questions:
1) How do I increase program memory?
2) I had a video file on my phone that played smoothly. I had some issues with the wing (long story), but long story short, I had to do a hard reset. I've only had it like 5 days (TMo 3rd level tech support told me to reset). Ever since that reset (and having to reput that exact same video with no changes made), the video now plays choppy on the phone. Any idea why?
3) Are there any programs that I can remove without damaging any of the system files?
4) For the life of me, I never have understood why phones come prestocked with those goffy photos, gifs, and other garbage. Is there a way to remove these?
5) Is there a way to increase the size of contact pictures when they call?
6) I was also reading that there's supposed to be some kind of "update". What will it do and does anyone know when it's coming out?
I appologize for asking some questions that have already been asked, but I really need someone to walk me through "step by step", especially considering how much this phone costs. I DEFINITLY don't wanna mess it up. If someone, ANYONE, can help, I'd be greatly appreciative.
Oh yeah, one more question. Any tips and/or tricks that the phone does that the manual doesn't tell you?
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1.) At the moment keep it clean, there was a thread on here a while ago where someone (moneytoo?) was tweeking his to run better but I dont remember what the last update was. Keep the memory clean and you can run things until we get more updates or a cooked fix.
2.)Not sure what would cause the vid file to be choppy unless you are running too many things at the same time, whats the specs on the vid, and what player are you using to watch it? If its the built in WMP then thats most likely your issue.
3.)Yeah, depends on what you want to remove?
4.)Yes, open the pictures & Videos, right soft key number 4 delete.
5.)Not that I know of, but I would bet you can go into the phones system files and pull the incoming c all display file and tweek it to be larger. Mine is something around half screen by default I think, never paid attention to it really...
6.)I heard that it was late March to April(most likely late April) but that could change.
Theres a lot that the manual does not tell you, you can go into the regestry to change your start menu look, you can open the home page XML file and redesign it for your personal tasts(IE on the nice HTC home screen you can have a start menu and other stuff) Just depends on what type of things you want to do with it.
This is my first smartphone and I am still learning, there are a lot more inteligent people on here than I and I am sure they will chime in with their tweaks and stuff, or correct my mistakes if I had some. I was pretty wary at first since it was such a different platform to me, but after about a month I got to know it and since I know computers so well did not mind playing in the registry and so forth. Just back up your ROM before you tweek in case you do toast something.
Enjoy the phone and welcome
10332007 said:
1.) At the moment keep it clean, there was a thread on here a while ago where someone (moneytoo?) was tweeking his to run better but I dont remember what the last update was. Keep the memory clean and you can run things until we get more updates or a cooked fix.
2.)Not sure what would cause the vid file to be choppy unless you are running too many things at the same time, whats the specs on the vid, and what player are you using to watch it? If its the built in WMP then thats most likely your issue.
3.)Yeah, depends on what you want to remove?
4.)Yes, open the pictures & Videos, right soft key number 4 delete.
5.)Not that I know of, but I would bet you can go into the phones system files and pull the incoming c all display file and tweek it to be larger. Mine is something around half screen by default I think, never paid attention to it really...
6.)I heard that it was late March to April(most likely late April) but that could change.
Theres a lot that the manual does not tell you, you can go into the regestry to change your start menu look, you can open the home page XML file and redesign it for your personal tasts(IE on the nice HTC home screen you can have a start menu and other stuff) Just depends on what type of things you want to do with it.
This is my first smartphone and I am still learning, there are a lot more inteligent people on here than I and I am sure they will chime in with their tweaks and stuff, or correct my mistakes if I had some. I was pretty wary at first since it was such a different platform to me, but after about a month I got to know it and since I know computers so well did not mind playing in the registry and so forth. Just back up your ROM before you tweek in case you do toast something.
Enjoy the phone and welcome
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Thanks for your answers, they're greatly appreciated.
2) It's the built in wmp. How do I remove it and what do I replace it with? Furthermore, what do I need to install new software?
3)I'd like to remove stuff I don't use. I'm talking about where you go to remove programs. I've got Microsoft Live Search, T-Mobile Email Wizard 1.0 (don't even use my phone for emails), OZ communications OZ IM (not sure what that is), and Winwap Technologies Oy t-zones (not sure what that is or does either).
4) All those pics are saying that they're .sys files, and I don't wanna mess up the phone by deleting them (will it?).
New question, how do I back up my ROM?
djwill13 said:
Thanks for your answers, they're greatly appreciated.
2) It's the built in wmp. How do I remove it and what do I replace it with? Furthermore, what do I need to install new software?
3)I'd like to remove stuff I don't use. I'm talking about where you go to remove programs. I've got Microsoft Live Search, T-Mobile Email Wizard 1.0 (don't even use my phone for emails), OZ communications OZ IM (not sure what that is), and Winwap Technologies Oy t-zones (not sure what that is or does either).
4) All those pics are saying that they're .sys files, and I don't wanna mess up the phone by deleting them (will it?).
New question, how do I back up my ROM?
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No problem
I never removed my built in WMP just in case and its taking up no space, but I use two players at the moment, TCMP (I think I have an older version since it wont support quad pixel mpeg4 for some reason, but its the only version I can find) and Core Player. Both will play just about everything out there. TCMP works best (that I have found) on our phones because you can tell it to play at medium quality a full size file so you dont have to convert your media (most of the time) and it wont lag. Core Player was good, but seems to lag every now and then (most likely from the lack of proper video codec on the s730) but since it will play FLAC audio I kept it installed.
You can do it from the phone itself, go into your start menu, settings, more, top option remove programs, this usually will just be for what you have installed. Optionally you can connect it to your computer and explore through active sync and remove the data, icons and folders for what you dont want. I personally am not sure how one goes in and removes the preinstalled software for sure.
The pictures with a .sys sound like they are for icons, your menu's and other images that you might want to keep. The junk pictures that are pre loaded should be in .jpg, .bmp, doubt it but .png extensions.
I have not backed mine up yet but theres a tutorial in what you need and what you need to do stickied at the top of this forum, flash sspl and hardspl, I dont remember for certain but I think somewhere in there is the way to back up your settings, dont quote me on that though...
There occured some problems after doing this registry change, please read posts below.
Ok Guys and Girls,
Because noone could help me with my questiong on howto keep the Registry settings for Hiding Sim Contacts, I searched the registry myself.
After some hours of Try&Error i found the registry entry for flushing the registry on Power off and Soft Reset.
This will help a lot
1. Go into Registry with Resco or other regedit tool
2. Find Entry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\ObjectStore\Regflush
3. Change Value "ActivityThreshold" from "1" to "0"
Thats it. Have fun
Please test it and post here. If it does work for all, then please write it into the Diamond Tweak list.
Bye
j_love
edit: Dont try this!! xD
jlove said:
Ok Guys and Girls,
Because noone could help me with my questiong on howto keep the Registry settings for Hiding Sim Contacts, I searched the registry myself.
After some hours of Try&Error i found the registry entry for flushing the registry on Power off and Soft Reset.
This will help a lot
1. Go into Registry with Resco or other regedit tool
2. Find Entry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\ObjectStore\Regflush
3. Change Value "ActivityThreshold" from "1" to "0"
Thats it. Have fun
Please test it and post here. If it does work for all, then please write it into the Diamond Tweak list.
Bye
j_love
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I don't want to offend you, but you could have saved those hours by just making sure you search / read my articles as is also mentioned in the sticky thread. I've explained the meaning of the value at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/old_blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=898&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 .
"ActivityThreshold specifies the # of reg activity before we force a flush; [FlushPeriod:] Timeout period for a flush (flush occurs if there have been some changes during this period)... These settings cause the registry to flush when there are 256 changes or any changes within a second(which is probably too often.)"
Nevertheless, nice to know the Diamond comes with the default value of 0 and this is why it doesn't necessarily flush back changes to the flash storage. Very few (if any) models come with this setting.
Use this with caution!!! I have problems with my registry now!
@Menneisyys
Thanks for your Article. Have read through it but didnt find it in the forum.
Maybe you can help out a little
There is a problem with my registry now.
As you mentioned the value 0 is possible but now I cant change any registry entries. What do you think happend?
Maybe you can help out. What would be the best value to set?
Maybe people where the Registry is not being flushed can look at the value of ActivityThreshold and tell us.
Thx
aff u ****ed up my device to xDDD, anyone knows how to fix this?
omg phone not working and i cant even make a hard reset or flash another rom cos it acts like a disk drive and if i change to activesync it gets changed again to disk drive after some seconds :S
I did a Hard Reset and installed my apps again.
So I think there is no other way mate No Risk No Fun *GGG*
jlove said:
I did a Hard Reset and installed my apps again.
So I think there is no other way mate No Risk No Fun *GGG*
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yes did the same xD.Well time to flash new bepe's rom and configure it all again.
better change your first post so ppl dont make same mistake!!
hey guy,
i had a question. what was the spare parts application on the market before and why did it get pulled. also i was wondering if anyone can modify droidsans tweak tools lite so we can change the APN settings for US users. i use to be able to turn off the 3g completely to save battery (rather than only downgrading to 2g). i asked him to put it back and he said he would on next update but i was bummed when he didn't
hbguy