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I mean, is the d4 going to be overlooked due to the new razr hype?
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i have faith in the Devs that we will see stuff. Even if at first it is ports from the Razar as the hardware is almost identical. Right now there are a few ROMs that are out, but without the files to factory restore a lot of us are not yet wanting to take the risk of loading custom ROMS.
Thats where i stand. Ive only rooted thus far. I went to motorola without doing my homework. Ive had htc phones in the past and loved the roms available for sense. But when i look at the droid roms it seems they must not be as "popular" as the ones for htc sense. But then again i havent participated in the forum scene enough to research yet.
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Sometimes it just take a little longer for them to come out on Motorola but we do get custom ROMs. Once the recovery files are leaked for the Droid 4 fast boot system then I believe we will start to see many more ROMs.
CM9 for Droid 4
I know that the CM9 ICS ROM that hashcode is developing is still in beta stage but honestly that ROM is very stable. I have been using it for over a week testing all the various hardware functions and they all work fine. I was very impressed with it. No major issues with it at all. Just some very minor issues with the software.
whiteout is right.... hashcode's ICS (both CM9 and AOKP) work almost flawlessly for me. I have used both, and they both have everything working, including front facing camera now! with only little bugs here and there that will be worked out shortly.
keep in mind, this phone has only been out for a month, and there are no stock recovery files out there for us if we really eff somthing up.
dont know about you, but i am thrilled with the development so far and LOVING my ICS experience on the droid4.
I know how you feel; this happened to the Droid 2 thanks to the Droid X, but I think it's safe to say that is not the case here. Actually, for there to be a nearly stable ROM for a phone within a month of it being released, is pretty darn awesome! I think the only reason we haven't seen, say, a CM7.1 ROM yet is because everyone is busy working on CM9.
Side note; since we do have all the drivers, is it possible for someone to get CM7.1 compiled for the phone? I suspect this would not take much work for someone who knows what they're doing, and it would be a nice step up from stock for those of us who actually need to keep a stable phone until CM9 is ready.
I really like roms that also add alot of visuals like change the look of the phone
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I can tell you that at the moment we have two good Android ICS roms in the works, I don't know if those will have many visual options.
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Sometimes it just take a little longer for them to come out on Motorola but we do get custom ROMs. Once the recovery files are leaked for the Droid 4 fast boot system then I believe we will start to see many more ROMs.
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I sure hope we get a good stock recovery file soon. I boot-loop bricked my D4 with careless use of Titanium Backup PRO (moving around system Dalvik cache, deleting rather than freezing stock bloat apps, etc.). Since factory resetting hasn't help, I assume I've trashed the system core and need to reflash from stock... which I guess hasn't been released yet. Sigh.
I just got my Droid 4 a few days ago, and quickly tried the ICS/CM9 ROM, and while it still has some kinks to work out, it definatly has a strong following, and Im sure we will get more things in the future.
Whats the newest, most bug free ROM out there for Bionic, thats still getting updates?
I've had the Bionic for a couple of weeks and already got disapointed.
back when i rocked the DX2 i was die-hard Eclipse.
well on bionic i notaced many bugs, and i re-flashed, redownloaded, the works. had the same issues.
anyway. nitro sold his bionic, so no more Eclipse. so i swung to the other side to try Liberty. its cool. no where neer as boss as Eclipse. but they both have pros and cons. anyway.
come to find out Liberty devs stopped for the bionic too. so, my question is, what is the newest, bestest rom, thats still getting updates, and lots of themes? preferably a boss ICS theme D
Active Bionic Roms
There are several alpha and beta Roms out for the Bionic however most of them still have bugs ranging from no 3G/4G to the front facing camera not working. From what I can tell the only stable Rom for the Bionic is gummy. This may be due to the Bionic having a locked boot loader. Hopefully either Nitro will get a used Bionic and continue development or development will increase when or if ICS is officially released on the Bionic.
i hope he does too. i really enjoyed Eclipse. besides the fact thant when i held down the power button to get the reboot options it would just straight up reboot. (very annowing when wanting recovery)
i think the AOKP ICS rom thats out looks mighty spiffy, but i dont know what all doesnt work, and i dont want to risk having to go back to my old old devour. (sold the DX2)
anyway. thanks for your input!
here is me and @insanemods rom mainly his but working on fixing all the bugs stuck at f.c.'s at the moment but mostly works themes galore lockscreen changes and such... here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535293
I'm in the same boat as you, trying to find a stable ROM rather than go back to de-bloated Blur. The only other recommendation I can give besides those already mentioned is dhacker's April 5th nightly of CM9.
I obviously haven't been using it for long, but it has so far has a pretty consistent data connection.
DroidHive -> Downloads -> Bionic -> CM9 SELFKANG BIONIC ICS
I've been running CM9 Unofficial since it dropped. Currently I am on 04-04 and have had stable data and WiFi since I flashed it. HW accel and video are the only things really missing for me. Give it a shot.
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I've been running CM9 Unofficial since it dropped. Currently I am on 04-04 and have had stable data and WiFi since I flashed it. HW accel and video are the only things really missing for me. Give it a shot.
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can you post a link to the rom
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thats sounds really nice. so theres CM9, and CM7.....wheres 8??
but a link would be helpful.
i just want something super stable, that will work with safestrap, and will be getting updated frequently, i like having all the bugs worked out, and having cool new additions
because i liked the option of going into recovery upon each boot.
and is anyone using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527544 ?
i want a straightforward review of it. dont sugar coat it xD
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here is me and @insanemods rom mainly his but working on fixing all the bugs stuck at f.c.'s at the moment but mostly works themes galore lockscreen changes and such... here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535293
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ive never found MIUI appealing, its not really my cup of tea. it reminds me too much of apple. i really dislike apple stuff
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I'm in the same boat as you, trying to find a stable ROM rather than go back to de-bloated Blur. The only other recommendation I can give besides those already mentioned is dhacker's April 5th nightly of CM9.
I obviously haven't been using it for long, but it has so far has a pretty consistent data connection.
DroidHive -> Downloads -> Bionic -> CM9 SELFKANG BIONIC ICS
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it'd be pretty cool if they had a bug list, and screenshots...
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ive never found MIUI appealing, its not really my cup of tea. it reminds me too much of apple. i really dislike apple stuff
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i can see apple as first install install like nova launcher or apex and the "apple" is gone dude simple as that super customizable at that point.. just sayin' but do what you want..
I do prefer the AOKP ICS rom port over the CM9 just for the little details, but they're rather similar.
Being new to this stuff, I don't know what "Repo Sync & Build" means. But I've used the rom linked below, and in my eyes, it was merely the March 13th nightly of the AOKP rom port--also on droidhive, their latest is april 8th.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527544
Both the AOKP and CM9 4.0.3 roms have the same bugs as mentioned above.
No HW accel. Games crash.
Video has issues.
Data is intermittent. I'll have rock steady data all day, but then the next day it won't work at all.
AOKP:
http://www.droidhive.com/forums/index.php?/files/file/37-aokp-selfkang-bionic-ics-403-r1-nightlies/
CM9:
http://www.droidhive.com/forums/index.php?/files/file/38-cm9-selfkang-bionic-ics-403-r1-nightlies/
Is there any consensus on which is the most stable ROM with a solid 4G connection?
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Is there any consensus on which is the most stable ROM with a solid 4G connection?
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im with this guy.
even 3G
im using the one on her the repo sync and build ICS AOKP.
well, one thats getting updates like the ICS roms.
like is CM9 or the AOKP better?
or pretty much the same, but with one with 'rom controll"
hell, i wouldnt mind just a port of stock ICS with boss data connectivity.
oh, with the AOKP can i update between nightlys just by wiping cache and flashing, or do i need to factory reset everything?
I use eclipse 2.2 after using liberty for .901. I tried gummy but had issues.
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anyone have a link for a stock 902 thats deodexed and flashable?
The Gummy ICS rom is VERY good and is only missing a working camcorder...and that's it. I ran it for days and ZERO issues, except for that. Eventually I just got too uncomfortable not being able to use the video camera and went back to stock. It just updated yesterday as well, but still no video recording:
http://goo.im/devs/TeamGummy/Roms/Targa
For that gummy ROM do you only flash that one, becsuse the Gapps are part of it?
no there is also a Gapps package for it as well....i'm sure its on their site.
I did not see it unless it isin a different slot than the ROMs. A link would help
After being on these forums for a while, I've come to know the 5 main ROMS for the D4.
AOKP
The Arctic
SELFKANG/CM9
Gummy
Eclipse
I think that there should be a thread that compares each ROM, and that helps people, myself included, choose from these wonderful pieces of software that would best be suited for their likings.
If I may, I came from CM7, and I miss it dearly. I also enjoyed MIUI, but always came back to CM7.
I am excited about CM9, but more than ICS, I want some tweakability and theming again. I would love to see CM7 themes.
However, my biggest actual need, is lapdock support. Whatever custom rom supports it will be my first choice.
I just wish I could code to help. Alas, I am not a coder.
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I was more referring to features of the listed rooms in my first post. But theming and such are good things to discuss too
Is it still true that none of the ICS ROMs have a working video camera yet due to driver issues?
I'm still on stock, but recent issues with Bluetooth AVRCP being completely broken in both versions of the stock ROM have me interested in taking the plunge.
It's true. For video to work I guess we'll have to wait for an ICS release from Motorola. Doubt any dev will work on it knowing Motorola will release it.
I for one am a happy AOKP user. Not sure if you would be. Some have reported audio issues with ICS/AOKP/AOSP. At the moment I have no need for Bluetooth audio. Except maybe my carkit.
I'm perfectly happy sticking on eclipse 1.3.6 right now its really fast, and no issues as of yet
Looking for a nice ROM with stable data connection, absolutely love ICS but sketchy data is putting it on hold for now. Gonna try eclipse...
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Eclipse is absolutely amazing, haven't run in to any problems at all
Google is expected by some to announce Android 4.1 Jellybean next week along with their Nexus 7 tablet. Besides chrome integration and a new search widget, what do you guys think will be included with this update?
Since its coded 4.1 and not 5, i expect Android ICS devices will be updated to 4.1 as it is pretty soon to updgrade hardware requirements as 1gb is pretty muh still the standard adn most ICS devices have this amount of RAM. This said, do you guys think any developers will begin porting 4.1 to our devices, even with the hardware codecs and other issues still being prevelant? Would you guys really want it like this, half built?
If this update is good, would this persuade you to upgrade to the droid4, as it will have a higher probability of having a completely working port? since it has ICS now leaked and working, and still a high end phone, when not compared to the SIII atleast.
I think our device runs fine on Gingerbread still...
It would be nice for a port but the little development we have now is already stable with gingerbread.
It was leaked that the GNex will be getting 4.1. As for us running it... I would bet large sums of money against it working right.
From RootzWiki: Galaxy Nexus to get Jellybean 4.1
Screenshot proof:
http://rootzwiki.com/uploads/monthly_06_2012/ccs-808-0-41169000-1340388367_thumb.jpg
Although this is the GSM versions pictured, it won't be tough to build it from source for the CDMA GNex before it's pushed.
4.0.3 to 4.0.4 was pushed to most if not all custom ICS roms. I don't see why 4.1 would not follow, unless there are MAJOR changes which from what I've read there really aren't. I would expect Gummy and AOKP to bring it to their roms in the near future.
However I highly doubt it will change how we stand with our current issues and most likely may cause some new ones.
Ehhh gingerbread runs ok on our phones in my opinion, ics was ALOT faster for me. Im using elcipse right now and its fast but my benchmakrs with ics were much higher, os ran smoother too.
That is a good point by the poster above, so that is high hopes of seeing a port even though I know it wont bring any more features than we already have, except the minor changes to the OS. It will be fun to test though. In around 12 hours we will have better knowledgge of what Jwlly Bean has to offer
I'm sorry but what's the point in upgrading if we won't have a proper ICS on D3 anyway?
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I'm sorry but what's the point in upgrading if we won't have a proper ICS on D3 anyway?
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To make you wanna upgrade even more. I cant wait to get on ics, but since I need video its not gonna happen until I get a new phone
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I'm sorry but what's the point in upgrading if we won't have a proper ICS on D3 anyway?
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Some people don't need video camera, like all the ics usersd we have now, and otherxs want to test the new operating system, since we do have safestrap. Id love to test it, even though it wont be my daily
Also, you guys should really check out jellybean. It seems to be a much more complete os.
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I'm working on a kexec based bootloader bypass on droid3. It's coming along and the kernel say half boots. Once it is going I think jellybean is a real possibility. Probably will just skip ICS all togeather.
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I'm working on a kexec based bootloader bypass on droid3. It's coming along and the kernel say half boots. Once it is going I think jellybean is a real possibility. Probably will just skip ICS all togeather.
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thanks! sounds interesting
I saw your post in the kexec thread, I wish I knew how to help with that, I recommend you contact the original kexec developers, (I forgot which phone they were on) to help.
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I hate "half done" anything... i would like to see it completed for our devices however its not persuading me to go to the D4 since i am a new verizon customer and my plan isnt up for renewal for another year.
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I'm working on a kexec based bootloader bypass on droid3. It's coming along and the kernel say half boots. Once it is going I think jellybean is a real possibility. Probably will just skip ICS all togeather.
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Oh really
So if you were able to get custom kernels working does that mean you could use something like a modded Bionic ICS kernel (since its very similar hardware) or would a kernel have to be made from scratch.
The Nexus S is getting an official Jellybean update, and it only has 512MB of memory, just like the Droid3.
I read that memory limitations are what prevented devices like the NexS and the Droid3 from getting properly updated to ICS. I also read that Jellybean probably has looser system requirements than ICS, due to optimizations.
I do hope we can get JellyBean, either officially or otherwise. I'd love to have Google Now and I'm only halfway through my two-year contract.
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Oh really
So if you were able to get custom kernels working does that mean you could use something like a modded Bionic ICS kernel (since its very similar hardware) or would a kernel have to be made from scratch.
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Hashcode already has a custom kernel with the test rom I believe.
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The Nexus S is getting an official Jellybean update, and it only has 512MB of memory, just like the Droid3.
I read that memory limitations are what prevented devices like the NexS and the Droid3 from getting properly updated to ICS. I also read that Jellybean probably has looser system requirements than ICS, due to optimizations.
I do hope we can get JellyBean, either officially or otherwise. I'd love to have Google Now and I'm only halfway through my two-year contract.
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That's crazy, I was wondering whether any singlecore 512MB RAM phone was getting JB.
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Hashcode already has a custom kernel with the test rom I believe.
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Correct. Also he has said that we will be able to get Jellybean. I would imagine with all he has learned this year, he can probably get it fully running now. Hwcodecs may be the showstopper though...again. In theory a workaround may be available since we have a custom kernel.
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Correct. Also he has said that we will be able to get Jellybean. I would imagine with all he has learned this year, he can probably get it fully running now. Hwcodecs may be the showstopper though...again. In theory a workaround may be available since we have a custom kernel.
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Well I assume it will be fully working eventually, i mean why else would he try it this way if the end result exactly as it is now?
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That's crazy, I was wondering whether any singlecore 512MB RAM phone was getting JB.
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512 is enough but I think the issue has something to do with RAM being shared with the GPU so there is less avaliable, I get something around 330MB as total RAM when adding the 2 numbers under running services. My Droid 3 running stock 2.3.4 with bloat frozen is using around 250 MB. My Touchpad with CM9 and a full 1GB of RAM idles at around 300MB of RAM used, and its going to be less conservative on RAM usage since its got a GB.
The point is I don't think a CM9/10 ROM will be much worse than a bloated GB ROM as far as RAM usage goes. I really wish we had some more RAM, but I could see CM9/10 being a daily driver sometime in the future. The rest of the hardware in this phone is still pretty decent and CM should be no problem for it as long as the team can get some drivers working.
Hey everybody,
Just curious what the development scene looked like for the D4? I need a qwerty keyboard and I'm currently on the D2 with the new update so I no longer have root or ICS which means I'm looking to move on to the latest of the qwerty droid family. However I don't want to get something and find that nobody is working on anything for it, since ultimately I'd like to end up with some version of JB on my phone, I figure since the devs have been able to get ICS onto it that it won't take that much more of an effort to get JB onto it. Is this true or am I just blowing hot air?
I really loved the D4 when I went to mess around with it at the store and will most likely end up getting it since my D2 is at the end of it's life but I figured it get a feel for what the dev scene looked like for the D4.
Cheers!
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Hey everybody,
Just curious what the development scene looked like for the D4? I need a qwerty keyboard and I'm currently on the D2 with the new update so I no longer have root or ICS which means I'm looking to move on to the latest of the qwerty droid family. However I don't want to get something and find that nobody is working on anything for it, since ultimately I'd like to end up with some version of JB on my phone, I figure since the devs have been able to get ICS onto it that it won't take that much more of an effort to get JB onto it. Is this true or am I just blowing hot air?
I really loved the D4 when I went to mess around with it at the store and will most likely end up getting it since my D2 is at the end of it's life but I figured it get a feel for what the dev scene looked like for the D4.
Cheers!
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Phone has a locked bootloader, which means less dev. Current leaks of ICS work well. Easy enough to root and debloat. Plus Moto was tasteful on the their tweaks to ICS, for the most part it's stock. If your a flash-a-hollic though this is probably not the phone for you as the device has been out for some time and has little support here.
I'm not sure it's quite as bleak as all that. I agree that this is probably not the phone for flashaholics. There is not a ton of dev support but there is some. The ICS leaks pulled from Moto are surprisingly nice. Blur is kept to a minimum and bloat can be easily frozen if not removed. The ICS ROMs based off of the stock GB kernel are a little rough due to trying to run off of a GB kernel. The ICS ROMS built off of the leaked ICS builds are coming along nicely however. The data issues present on the GB builds are all but gone. We have both CM9 and AOKP ports built off the ICS leak and hopefully we'll see a Gummy port based off the leak as well. I too am hoping we'll eventually see a JB build but it's awfully early to be speculating on that. My hope is that, at the least, we'll see working JB builds running off our ICS kernel. Since JB is not a complete overhaul like going from GB to ICS I am hopeful such a build would run well without the same issues we saw running ICS on the GB kernel.
do you think if the Razr gets the JB update, would the Droid 4 get it then?
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I'm not sure it's quite as bleak as all that. I agree that this is probably not the phone for flashaholics. There is not a ton of dev support but there is some. The ICS leaks pulled from Moto are surprisingly nice. Blur is kept to a minimum and bloat can be easily frozen if not removed. The ICS ROMs based off of the stock GB kernel are a little rough due to trying to run off of a GB kernel. The ICS ROMS built off of the leaked ICS builds are coming along nicely however. The data issues present on the GB builds are all but gone. We have both CM9 and AOKP ports built off the ICS leak and hopefully we'll see a Gummy port based off the leak as well. I too am hoping we'll eventually see a JB build but it's awfully early to be speculating on that. My hope is that, at the least, we'll see working JB builds running off our ICS kernel. Since JB is not a complete overhaul like going from GB to ICS I am hopeful such a build would run well without the same issues we saw running ICS on the GB kernel.
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Not quite sure why you would use bleak in response to either the OP's post or mine, and then proceed to mutter the same things I said afterwards.
Thanks guys, hopefully we'll see a JB port that runs on the ICS kernel
Whatever happened to the kexec exploit? My understanding was people were just waiting for the source of the ICS kernel to drop.
Once that happens, we can do pretty much anything we want