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*@&# AT&T

I fear that I will do something hasty like blow up my 8525 and go back to a razor and be done with it. Today, yet another let down, the 25th and no tilt, but I hear it will be out the 7th, oh wait maybe November or maybe Christmas. I have an idea, maybe all of those that are thinking of pulling another release date out of your ass you could show this message to a friend or family member. I say this because I would like them to break your fingers so you cannot type this **** anymore. Losing my f-ing mind in case you couldn't tell. Tired of waiting, and "officially" hate at&t.
If I end up getting a tilt I think it will be a giant let down considering how we have all built it up from all of the anticipation. Its kinda like hearing about a new movie and then finally seeing it and it sucks.

booo freakin hooo. Even if the Tilt was coming out today (09/25) it's not even noon EST and your complaining like a little kid. Go punch a pillow and wait like the rest of us.
I hope someone breaks your fingers so you can't type this **** anymore.

there was a story on CNN about people like this .. gadget fetish, to the point of it being an illness, they implied
i like electronic toys too, but i'm not quite ready to get violent about it.
i'm stuck using a 5 year old total POS nokia phone waiting on 8925, i'd be THRILLED to be using an 8525 in the meantime

I hope someone breaks your fingers so you can't type this **** anymore. [/QUOTE]
Like You? One thing I hate about the internet is everyones so far away. Times like this it would be so much nicer to be face to face, ya know. Besides *****, it was somewhat of a joke, Ill spare everyone the internet tough guy thing because its fun to come here but watch who you insult.

RacerX10 said:
there was a story on CNN about people like this .. gadget fetish, to the point of it being an illness, they implied
i like electronic toys too, but i'm not quite ready to get violent about it.
i'm stuck using a 5 year old total POS nokia phone waiting on 8925, i'd be THRILLED to be using an 8525 in the meantime
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I know what your sayin, I know I should be content with my 8525 i just cannot stand to wait. Maybe this is a lesson in patience for me LOL, I will try, sometimes you just gotta vent to your fellow ppc addicts

swtaltima said:
I fear that I will do something hasty like blow up my 8525 and go back to a razor and be done with it. Today, yet another let down, the 25th and no tilt, but I hear it will be out the 7th, oh wait maybe November or maybe Christmas. I have an idea, maybe all of those that are thinking of pulling another release date out of your ass you could show this message to a friend or family member. ..... Tired of waiting, and "officially" hate at&t.
If I end up getting a tilt I think it will be a giant let down considering how we have all built it up from all of the anticipation. Its kinda like hearing about a new movie and then finally seeing it and it sucks.
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Okay let me see if I have this straight:
1) you want to get a Kaiser
2) You are waitng for ATT to come out with one
3) You are loosing your hair and getting an ulcer because they cant pick what date they choose to actually deliver the aforementiond Kaiser
Would not the solution be to just go and buy one from one of the many people that are selling them now? I understand that you will have to pay more for it, but in the two months you are waiting for it I will have been using mine.
If it is a cost thing that keeps you from getting what you so badly desire then you have to take your share of the blame as when you made your purchasing decision you obviously factored in cost vs. wait time to get it.
Just my thoughts

swtaltima said:
Like You? One thing I hate about the internet is everyones so far away. Times like this it would be so much nicer to be face to face, ya know. Besides *****, it was somewhat of a joke, Ill spare everyone the internet tough guy thing because its fun to come here but watch who you insult.
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I was just quoting you buddy. Your obviously taking it to heart replying with an insult then saying "Ill spare everyone the internet tough guy thing" in the same sentence. Just silly web forum crap, don't take it so personal. Good luck getting your tilt.

InRBigness said:
Okay let me see if I have this straight:
1) you want to get a Kaiser
2) You are waitng for ATT to come out with one
3) You are loosing your hair and getting an ulcer because they cant pick what date they choose to actually deliver the aforementiond Kaiser
Would not the solution be to just go and buy one from one of the many people that are selling them now? I understand that you will have to pay more for it, but in the two months you are waiting for it I will have been using mine.
If it is a cost thing that keeps you from getting what you so badly desire then you have to take your share of the blame as when you made your purchasing decision you obviously factored in cost vs. wait time to get it.
Just my thoughts
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Good points, although I should not be saying this but I have a friend at a at&t store who I refer allot of business to. I get these devices for literally next to nothing, prob like $0-$100 so buying an unlocked kaiser would not make sense. Just very frustrated.

vwremglx said:
I was just quoting you buddy. Your obviously taking it to heart replying with an insult then saying "Ill spare everyone the internet tough guy thing" in the same sentence. Just silly web forum crap, don't take it so personal. Good luck getting your tilt.
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No hard feelings, just misunderstood. Oh and that was not my idea of being tough hence my comments after.

i am frustrated, too. i have been waiting for what seems like an eternity, and since I lost my PDA at the end of August, I am having serious trouble waiting any longer. For different reasons, I need to wait for the tilt to come out before i rush out to get a TyTN II.
funny, the delay of the tilt kind of took some of the luster off the Halo3 launch for me, too. I mean, Halo 3 is amazing, but I have this yearning for a tilt that won't leave me alone.
swtaltima, i think you are probably getting a lot less sympathy/slack here than you might at other forums because so many people here already have the TyTN II. i mean when i read your posts, I recognize your frustration.

Does the OP infer that AT&T offically posted a release date for the TILT?
Really?
Because if not, they broke no promises. ****, it hasn't been announced yet, has it? I wish people would shut up about the 8925/TILT until they've at least publicly acknowledged it exists. What's worse is, if they released it today and all the bugs weren't worked out, you guys would be the first to ***** about it. They can't win.
If you're in such a hurry to get it, do like the rest of us and open up your wallet. The Kaiser's been available for some time now.
-Mc

I dropped by my AT&T store at lunch to see if they had the Tilt. The girl said she had been off for the past four days so she would go check with the manager. The manager came out with his 'catalog' book and looked it up and said, 'No, we expect to see it on 10/15'. I asked about the Moto Q9 Global and was given the same date.
Whether they are clueless or not, I don't know. I originally got a Blackjack back on the 11th just to tide me over until the Tilt came out. Thinking that 30 days would be plenty of time for it to show up now appears to be quite naive on my part.

McHale said:
Does the OP infer that AT&T offically posted a release date for the TILT?
Really?
Because if not, they broke no promises. ****, it hasn't been announced yet, has it? I wish people would shut up about the 8925/TILT until they've at least publicly acknowledged it exists. What's worse is, if they released it today and all the bugs weren't worked out, you guys would be the first to ***** about it. They can't win.
If you're in such a hurry to get it, do like the rest of us and open up your wallet. The Kaiser's been available for some time now.
-Mc
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i don't see any reason people can't express frustration. no one is saying AT&T made and broke any promises. Quite the contrary, people are saying there is no need for AT&T to be playing everything so close to the vest. I think people are saying they would like to know where things stand and would appreciate updates from AT&T itself instead of leaked news and rumors. it seems natural to me, as a consumer, to want this information. people are frustrated with AT&T mainly because of its poor track record in customer service and its slavish devotion to the iphone as opposed to "better phones", and as a result, people think maybe AT&T is holding the tilt back to squeeze out more iphone sales or even 8525 sales. maybe that is not what AT&T is doing, maybe AT&T is trying very hard to make sure the Tilt is perfect before it is released. however, i can see why people may be less inclined to believe that and more inclinded to believe that the lack of info about the phone and the lack of launch details were concious decisions made by AT&T to sell more phones.
i know i feel kind of bad every time i go into an AT&T store to check on the latest buzz about the release and see a customer with a clueless phone rep checking out the 8525. now i am not saying the 8525 is not a good phone, by all accounts it is a great phone. what makes me feel bad is knowing that the customer may very well prefer to wait for the 8925 if only the sales person told them about it. however, i never see any sales reps doing that.

Spoke to the sales rep that signed me up to AT&T a few days ago. He mentioned that the 8925 is gonna be so castrated, that if you pay hypothetically 399.00 for it from AT&T, you will get a phone that's worth 399.00. I will take an educated guess that they will remove the video conferencing ability, the Internet sharing function and any other, "Super-Phone" ability the kaiser may have that will keep AT&T from ripping off their customers.
To be honest, if you really want the Kaiser, then buy it. If you wanna wait, then wait for T-Mobile, since they are a much more honest company.
I'm sure whats happening right now with AT&T and the 8925 is, they are testing it on their network and finding that they need to remove certain features before they can release it to the public. As soon as they are confident that they won't be shooting themselves in the foot by releasing a "super phone", then they will release it.
Just my opinion, and only my opinion.
JB

You want it like the rest of us... it will come out when it comes out - Not much we can do here. I'm still stuck with my nasty 8125. It will be a great upgrade skipping the 8525 I'm sure.
You need something else to tide you over... For me, it's Halo 3.

swtaltima said:
I know what your sayin, I know I should be content with my 8525 i just cannot stand to wait. Maybe this is a lesson in patience for me LOL, I will try, sometimes you just gotta vent to your fellow ppc addicts
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fair 'nuff, i'm with ya brother. i REALLY want that damn thing too !

Yeah, i'm using my 3125 while i wait for the tilt to come out!!
I'd really just like a launch date so i know where it stands and i can stop obsessively checking forums for release news

Buzz313th said:
Spoke to the sales rep that signed me up to AT&T a few days ago. He mentioned that the 8925 is gonna be so castrated, that if you pay hypothetically 399.00 for it from AT&T, you will get a phone that's worth 399.00.
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How does removing the front (and useless, to me) camera count as "so castrated" ?
Everything I'm seeing implies that will be the only difference between ATT's and the twice-as-expensive unlocked Kaisers.

this thread is pointless... you are getting pi$$ed off over a release date that was never even given by ATT ... if you want a kaiser then buy one, if you want to get pi$$ed then get pi$$ed at the people who told you the incorrect release date... please DO NOT open another useless thread like this.... this is a warning... a good ole' fashioned banning will come next

HTC, I've had enough of your BS.

Allright guys,
I hate to do this, but I'm sick of getting flipped off and getting broken promises from HTC. If I wanted those, I'd just get into another relationship with what seems to be a nice girl at a bar. I've sent in more than 9 hand written letters and countless emailed ones. I've made the proverbial ****-ton loads of phone calls. And all this through my own, free time. And I know that I'm not the only one. There is an army of people here who've written, pleased, asked politely and signed a petition. We've lambasted through what seems to be HTC's "cover fire" on the issue. After being dicked around, I didn't want a politically correct and savvy response to the issue that tells me nothing at all. For the money I paid, I wanted the basics. What, When, Where, Why. What was the problem? When Will it Be Resolved? Why has this been overlooked? If I can't get away from my girlfriend with a politically correct and savvy response to the issue of why I spent $700 on a new phone, then I don't believe HTC can use that ploy either.
Yea we've all heard this rant before, but I'm sick of this. If **** doesn''t change soon, I'm taking my business and my accounts elsewhere. It's sad when I have to degrade myself to think about rebuying the iphone. But hell even if we all know the iphone doesn't have all the features the tilt does, at least IT DOES WHAT IT'S PROMISED TO DO. No Smoke and mirrors. No concise and no business response. It just does what it's supposed to do out of the box.
Good luck everyone. This may be the last HTC product I'll ever buy.
P.S. And for all those who say this is a Business Device, not an entertainment device: As a business user, it's pretty damn hard to tell a client "HOLD ON, I NEED TO SWITCH TO LANDSCAPE MODE" or "GIMME A FEW MORE SECS TO SHOW YOU THIS EXCEL SHEET. WAIT, IT'S LOADING. ALMOST...." Even us business users are getting pissed off.
And, again, I hate the iphone, but how many of them do you see complaining because their device doesn't do an advertised feature? Or is misadvertised?

I was a huge fan of I-Mate.
But the Kaiser seemd to be good. That's why I bought it.
I think this will be the last HTC I own. Gonna stick with I-Mate for ever.
We need to sue those *****es.

yes i agree at first i was im love with my tilt but when my video recording capabilities sucked arse and simple things like scrolling while playing music makes the device lag now u know its a problem ive hear dof frigging wizards playing games better than this and they tote this as it being the most powerful windows device out but i was still gonna buy another htc product but once they released that statement im like are u serious this sis ur answer not even a "u can buy 4 more apps for 20 bucks" like steve jobbs is doing i mean i wouldve at least appreciated that but i think i might go to the tytn or the iphone they deliver on wat is promised

My next phone will probably going to be an iPhone once they release a 3G version of it. I miss my 8525

xmoo said:
I was a huge fan of I-Mate.
But the Kaiser seemd to be good. That's why I bought it.
I think this will be the last HTC I own. Gonna stick with I-Mate for ever.
We need to sue those *****es.
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I-mate is switiching manufactoring back to HTC, in essence it is just an HTC with I-mate branding. Hopefully they will support their devices with all the adequate software and updates, unlike HTC.

Infornography said:
Allright guys,
Good luck everyone. This may be the last HTC product I'll ever buy.
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What do you mean "may"? I have absolutely excluded it. After all this mockery and arrogance from HTC, I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror if I EVER went and bought another one of their devices, at ANY point in the future.

Funny Story "Iphone is ruining my life"

Haha Everyone give this a read, i thought it was quite funny.
smallbusiness. aol. com/2010/07/06/the-iphone-is-ruining-my-life/?ncid=webmail

Since my account still hasnt been check out by administrators i cant post outside links
So just add the World Wide Web and subtract the two spaces before .aol and after.

The more complicated phones become, the more unreliable they seem!

I call BS. As a person that relies heavily on my mobile for work (email, phone, calendar and note taking) if my phone failed me like they claim, it would be in the nearest bin and a replacement would be in my hand withing hours.
People who claim that they have lost money because of this and then take no action are either:
a; exagerating the situation for some personal reason
or
b; too stupid to actually care (and then deserve everything they get)
Many of the people in the story are high earners and could easily replace the phone with a bit of kit from a shop, off-contract in hours. Under no circumstances would I allow a phone to "ruin my life". If mobile comms are so important to you and you cannot risk losing business over it and you notice these symptoms, you do something about it .... and quickly. New basic smartphone £250 v lost deal that could be worth £thousands.... simple maths.
(Actually I lie, if the phone failed me like the claims they make, mine wouldn't be in the bin, it would be back with the retailer under "Not fit for purose", either way, I would have a new phone in hours.)
Yours, very, very happy with his HD2,
Monty

Monty Burns said:
I call BS. As a person that relies heavily on my mobile for work (email, phone, calendar and note taking) if my phone failed me like they claim, it would be in the nearest bin and a replacement would be in my hand withing hours.
People who claim that they have lost money because of this and then take no action are either:
a; exagerating the situation for some personal reason
or
b; too stupid to actually care (and then deserve everything they get)
Many of the people in the story are high earners and could easily replace the phone with a bit of kit from a shop, off-contract in hours. Under no circumstances would I allow a phone to "ruin my life". If mobile comms are so important to you and you cannot risk losing business over it and you notice these symptoms, you do something about it .... and quickly. New basic smartphone £250 v lost deal that could be worth £thousands.... simple maths.
(Actually I lie, if the phone failed me like the claims they make, mine wouldn't be in the bin, it would be back with the retailer under "Not fit for purose", either way, I would have a new phone in hours.)
Yours, very, very happy with his HD2,
Monty
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I agree, Your tools should work for you, you shouldnt do the work for your tools. Why maintain loyalty to a brand when that brand is screwing you over?

Please have a read to this!!

orb3000 said:
Please have a read to this!!
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Ha Ha Ha, Thats made my day........
Was he serious???
Surely not.....
the iphones ruined my life too............... my missus has one and Im addicted to that stupid paper toss game. Whenever shes not in I have to sit and actually throw a ball of paper into a real bin Thats not right in this day and age...

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Ha Ha Ha, Thats made my day........
Was he serious???
Surely not.....
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I´m sure he/she is serious!!
That´s the most hilarious thing
Jump in guys and post your comments

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Please have a read to this!!
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$!^#^%$^%*(&%(*^*&$^$#@#&*&%^&^(&*%

Genome Sequencing

When my mom asked my kid brother what he wanted for his birthday he asked to have his DNA or genome sequenced to find out his genotype. (Or something like that, I'm still learning about all this.) She asked me to pick out a computer for him haha. But I've been doing some research and I think it's a really good idea! They can tell you what health issues you are predisposition to, and give your doctor information about your genetic structure that would help him better prescribe medicine. Also they tell you your genetic ancestry, genetic relatives, and even what percent Neanderthal you are. haha
23andme will do it for $300. I heard about them through Wired, and their website looks good.
Has anyone ever done this or know someone who has? What company did you use?
On the other hand if you think it's a bad idea for some reason, tell me why. So far I don't see any reason why not to do this. Frankly I am dumbfounded that health insurance companies do not require it.

Seems like a worthwhile idea. I didn't know it was as inexpensive as $300 already, I figured it was still like a couple hundred thousand or more. If I had the disposable income, I'd probably go for it.

huggs said:
Seems like a worthwhile idea. I didn't know it was as inexpensive as $300 already, I figured it was still like a couple hundred thousand or more. If I had the disposable income, I'd probably go for it.
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I know right. And the way I understand it they continue to check different new diseases against your genotype and update your predispositions on your profile, for the initial $300. They add new genetic relatives on your family tree too.
It's just such a new thing I don't know what I might should be concerned about, or who has good track records. I was hoping someone had already had it done and could share their experience.

WiredPirate said:
I know right. And the way I understand it they continue to check different new diseases against your genotype and update your predispositions on your profile, for the initial $300. They add new genetic relatives on your family tree too.
It's just such a new thing I don't know what I might should be concerned about, or who has good track records. I was hoping someone had already had it done and could share their experience.
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The only downside is the government is obviously collecting your DNA to create a clone army.
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prototype7 said:
The only downside is the government is obviously collecting your DNA to create a clone army.
Sent from my Incredible 2 using Tapatalk 2
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Right. But what I'm most concerned about is will the rogue DNA recognize me as its genetic match and obey my commands. I don't want Dr Frankenstein to build a monster out of me if I can't control myself, ya know? The cloning feature was only a bit extra, but I don't want a genetic friend. I want to be able to sleep in and force my genetic equivalent go to work and clean the house, and the ESP control feature is a little out of my price range.

There are downsides. How differently would you lived your life if you knew there was an increased likelihood of dying early from some terrible disease. I think in most cases I would want to know, but not everyone would want to.
The biggest problem is going to be when insurance companies start to require this testing as a way to get coverage. Then those people with "bad genetics" will be forced to pay higher premiums.
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Bumping the thread, I won't do it again.
I'm kinda surprised nobody has done this.

Never done it, but it sounds pretty cool.
Is there any point in bumping a 6 hour old post.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2

Haven't done it. But at $300 its getting a lot closer to what I'd be willing to pay and im sure eventually it will be cheap enough for insurance companies to cover it since it would let them know about possible medical expenses down the road.
Sent from my Nobody Cares.

I will probably try to convince her to let him do it.
sy224048 said:
Never done it, but it sounds pretty cool.
Is there any point in bumping a 6 hour old post.
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It had been 24 hours since the last post, not 6. I bumped it because I'm going to have to decide tonight.

I think he just wants to know if he's adopted without saying it
Sent from my Gekko phone.

jaszek said:
I think he just wants to know if he's adopted without saying it
Sent from my Gekko phone.
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Haha. Well I could save him the money because I know he wasn't. He's one of those "too smart for his own good" type kids. He wants to be an evolutionary biologist. Who picks something like that as a career at 15 years old? lol. He is definitely the next generation of scientific minded free thinkers.

Are you kidding me Google????

So after being up all night ( playing black ops 2 ) and hitting the refresh button on my computer every 5 minutes i finally get the add to cart option...
I went through all the billing details etc and when i pressed confirm it said sorry there has been an error...
Now only the 8GB is available and the 16GB still says notify me again...
WTF????

Please use one of the hundred existing order threads

Both sold out now.
Shambles and disgrace.
I have an easier time getting tickets to major festivals.

Theres thousands of people accessing the page at the same time.
Google wallet is overloaded fyi

You do realise that this is a brand new device and people all over the WORLD want it. It's the same thing with iPhones. Get over it and wait for the next batch, I am and I'm happy about it

Complete joke.
Looks like i better get used to this old bag of crap phone for the future until google can be bothered to make than 5 phones

zolah said:
Complete joke.
Looks like i better get used to this old bag of crap phone for the future until google can be bothered to make than 5 phones
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In case you didnt see what EddyOS said. Ill quote it. Or get a faster internet connection or type your info faster. Ha!
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You do realise that this is a brand new device and people all over the WORLD want it. It's the same thing with iPhones. Get over it and wait for the next batch, I am and I'm happy about it
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EddyOS said:
You do realise that this is a brand new device and people all over the WORLD want it. It's the same thing with iPhones. Get over it and wait for the next batch, I am and I'm happy about it
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Yeah and when will that be?
I already sold my gnex and am using a pile of crap phone.
whos to say the same thing wont happen next time too.
This is ridiculous. Am i supposed to just sit hitting the refresh button forever until it says available again...

zolah said:
Yeah and when will that be?
I already sold my gnex and am using a pile of crap phone.
whos to say the same thing wont happen next time too.
This is ridiculous. Am i supposed to just sit hitting the refresh button forever until it says available again...
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I'm surprised even Google didn't foresee this will happen LOL
Sold out in Australia, Germany, UK in minutes.
I bet US will sell out too.

I understand your situation guys, who wouldn't be frustrated after being up all night for this and at last encounter an error as it sold faster than even the hot cakes !
But please continue in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962514
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