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I don't know where better to ask this question, but I figured there are some TomTom users in here since it came with some of your Kaisers.
I was playing around with TomTom, putting in some routes and I noticed something funny. There's a road that was blocked off over 10 years ago in my neighborhood which turned my neighborhood into a no outlet, i.e. only one road in or out. Unfortunately TomTom still thinks the road at the other end of my neighborhood is still open and so pretty much all my routes from my home address are foobared.
Does anyone have any idea how to manually tell TomTom not to use a particular street or route when mapping destinations?
-James
Through conversations with a few folks I've learned that TomTom is apparently contemplating ceasing any further development on any products for PDA's. They are apparently no longer supporting Nav6 nor will they provide any further map/poi updates for Nav6. They had apparently begun development of Nav7/8 but have suspended that project until a go/no decision is made.
This decision is apparently being driven primarily by significant bootlegging of maps (their primary source of income with Nav software).
I have gotten this info second-hand, but believe it is reliable. Has anyone else heard anything along these lines?
Interesting...
I had to call them to help me activate my maps on my fourth replacement tilt. In the course of conversation, I asked about new maps. And the answer was there were new maps but not for navigator 6....they were developing navigator 7 and were in the process of determining "viability." When I asked if that meant they were thinking of discontinuing it, he backpedaled and said they just want to make sure that everything works with such a wide variety of devices to support - palm, symbian, windows mobile.
With what you heard, it sounds like it could be a possibilty. Shame. It's a good program...
I agree, it's an excellent program and I get a lot of good use out of it, I hope they continue to upgrade and improve it. The ONLY thing I don't like about TomTom Navigator 6 is that it doesn't have Text to Speech, it would be nice to hear "turn right on Yuba Street then turn right on California Street" instead of just "Turn right then turn right".
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Interesting...
I had to call them to help me activate my maps on my fourth replacement tilt. In the course of conversation, I asked about new maps. And the answer was there were new maps but not for navigator 6....they were developing navigator 7 and were in the process of determining "viability." When I asked if that meant they were thinking of discontinuing it, he backpedaled and said they just want to make sure that everything works with such a wide variety of devices to support - palm, symbian, windows mobile.
With what you heard, it sounds like it could be a possibilty. Shame. It's a good program...
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They released new maps this past week for the Nav6 as well as all their other products.
Until you see this on their web site it is just someone's rumor.
http://www.tomtom.com/products/maps/?Lid=4
Bill
Do you know if those truly are new maps? After installing TT on my Kais and downloading the free map for my metro area 5 days ago I've found a large number of outdated things including 1 year old streets not in TT and POI's 1 to 4 years out of date. I'd think that they'd want the map they give you for a trial to get you to purchase from them would be the most up to date.
Can anyone tell what the exact version is of the new maps? From what I can read about them is that they are version 6.75 but they done give the build number. I already have version 6.75.1409. Just wanting to know if they really are newer maps.
So use Google Maps.....
It doesn't have text to speech either but it is FREE! and I suspect the real reason TomTom are no longer going to support the PDA version. Very powerful - search for "KFC" and it will find all the nearest with clickable links to websites, phone numbers, driving directions from current position, from an input address from a contact etc. Everything you could want when you need to top up on Kentucky Fried Chipmunks.....or whatever you need to find.
Of course as it is "live" and downloads maps on the fly you better have an unlimited data plan. But it is cool driving along in Satellite View!
HINT - the CAB is not seperately downloadable. You have to download it direct to your PDA - last time I did it was about 1.5Mb. Though once you have the CAB in memory you can back it up to your PC.
These are not new maps - they are the same as what i downloaded several weeks ago.
This has also been confirmed at the following site
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=400322#400322
"TomTom have today announced the availability of the v.7.20 maps from the Map Shop as well as the v.8.05 maps for the GOx30 users.
All existing map versions that were previously available from the shop have now been replaced with the new v.720 maps for all PND’s except the GOx30 series. GOx30 owners can now buy new map version v.8.05. Anyone contemplating a map purchase is advised that the maps are device dependent and therefore it is important that you select the exact device model you own to ensure you receive the correct map.
The 7.20 and 8.05 maps are based on TeleAtlas 2008.01 data.
The 6.75 maps will remain available in the Map Shop for NAVIGATOR 6 users and Automotive units (Eclipse, Daihatsu, Toyota) Note: Rider and Rider 2 users can now buy the new v.720 maps (premium maps) from the map shop."
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It doesn't have text to speech either but it is FREE! and I suspect the real reason TomTom are no longer going to support the PDA version. Very powerful - search for "KFC" and it will find all the nearest with clickable links to websites, phone numbers, driving directions from current position, from an input address from a contact etc. Everything you could want when you need to top up on Kentucky Fried Chipmunks.....or whatever you need to find.
Of course as it is "live" and downloads maps on the fly you better have an unlimited data plan. But it is cool driving along in Satellite View!
HINT - the CAB is not seperately downloadable. You have to download it direct to your PDA - last time I did it was about 1.5Mb. Though once you have the CAB in memory you can back it up to your PC.
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The one big disadvantage of google maps is that it DOES require that live connection. If you are in a poor reception - or no reception area - it is hard to get those directions. For me, i would rather have it sitting on my device and just be dependent on the satellites....instead of BOTH satellite and cell tower.
I don't think the have stoped developing v7 because the new HTC Daimond comes with v7 intergrated in the rom. This can be found in several artical on XDA.
There is much to like about google maps. As you mentioned, they are constantly updated, fairly accurate, have tons of useful info, allow you to click on POI's for info, to call POI, or link to POI website.
Unfortunately it doesn't have turn-by-turn capabilities (at least that I've ever seen) or allow you to keep maps on your device (besides costly when roaming, I seem to always find areas without cell service). It doesn't determine your direction of travel with an arrow, only shows a dot. These are the biggies. Some of the route planning and other things that TT or Garmin have are also useful but missing from Goog. Google's love of learning anything and everything about people for their own profit is also a bit disconcerting. Them knowing where I've been, where I am, and where I'm going is perhaps too much.
Telenav only works in the US, Garmin is coming out with their own phone to avoid the pirated maps/revenue issue...
Darren Griffin from PocketGPS forum has written the following statement
"In Amsterdam last week I quizzed TomTom on this and whilst their future plans for PocketPC were vague, they did suggest that piracy had been major issue and 'if' any future releases were planned they would most likely only be in partnership with manufacturers. "
www.pocketgpsworld.com
Article is on the home page discussed under "HTC Launch O2 XDA Diamond in Germany with TomTom v7"
Google
Google does not offer voice guidance or turn-by-turn maps. However, Google does offer a traffic overlay which is free (TomTom charges) and does not require updates.
Oddly, it seems to take TomTom about 10 minutes or so to get a GPS lock. Google (with GPS turned on) seems to take less than a minute. I have never understood that
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Can anyone tell what the exact version is of the new maps? From what I can read about them is that they are version 6.75 but they done give the build number. I already have version 6.75.1409. Just wanting to know if they really are newer maps.
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I called and the 1409 is the latest version of the map.
Tech support indicates that they have no plans to discontinue the Nav6.
Bill
jdmba said:
Oddly, it seems to take TomTom about 10 minutes or so to get a GPS lock. Google (with GPS turned on) seems to take less than a minute. I have never understood that
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Mine (Kaiser w/ TT) almost always gets GPS lock within about 30 seconds of starting the TT app. This is in US including MN, CA, NY, and GA.
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Mine (Kaiser w/ TT) almost always gets GPS lock within about 30 seconds of starting the TT app. This is in US including MN, CA, NY, and GA.
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Yep, same here, TomTom has a lock and is showing my location in at most 60s when I turn it on while driving. If I'm sitting still, it's less than that.
The Tilt does not seem to have much luck getting a signal when shielded from the sky, however.. Even sitting in a restaurant near a window I've found it completely unable to get a signal but it locked on in <15s when outside. I always mount my Tilt on my 'grip' mount on my dashboard so it has a reasonable view of the sky.
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Yep, same here, TomTom has a lock and is showing my location in at most 60s when I turn it on while driving. If I'm sitting still, it's less than that.
The Tilt does not seem to have much luck getting a signal when shielded from the sky, however.. Even sitting in a restaurant near a window I've found it completely unable to get a signal but it locked on in <15s when outside. I always mount my Tilt on my 'grip' mount on my dashboard so it has a reasonable view of the sky.
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Do you have aGPS enabled? That will enable you to get a lock even inside of buildings, or anywhere that has little or no view of the sky.
I hope they do move to navigator 7 at some point as I like the idea of things like map share that are avaliable on the go 720 tomtom models.
Looks like there will be TomTom 7 for Procket PC.
There is a news item on MoDaCo website.
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-professional-news/268462/tomtom-7-coming-to-pocket-pc-soon/
i get a quick lock on tomtom, but poor refresh updates from the GPS chip, so its laggy as.
TOMTOM also dont support the kaiser, TYTN II, or the OEM Branded ones, so getting support is a pain (even though my bloody phone came with tomtom on a CD!)
My GPS Reception jumps all over the place too. very unreliable.
I had plus services working great for my trip from Texas to Virginia up until I hit Alabama. Now I get the error stating the services are "not available in your region (yet)." I have tried everything I could think of or find. I tried reinstalling 6 in which the plus services worked fine. I reinstall 7 and get the error above.
Anyone else experiencing this? Is there a fix for it? Or is this a way TomTom is regulating tt7?
I live in the US and have legal maps.
Thanks!
Alan
i live in georgia, and have a similar situation. i used to have traffic working with tt6, and after upgrading to tt7, it is giving the message above. seems it is happenning to a lot of people.
suggestions welcome
anybody on this?
It could be because we released TT7 in the U.S. before TomTom did. I remember it was not even available on their website until a couple of weeks ago. I think we rushed their plans.
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It could be because we released TT7 in the U.S. before TomTom did. I remember it was not even available on their website until a couple of weeks ago. I think we rushed their plans.
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mmmm...any idea on when ttn7 will be released in the states?
harty83 said:
mmmm...any idea on when ttn7 will be released in the states?
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It is.....
edit: actually, I have no idea. I do not use tomtom home because it messed up my gps using tt6. Check TTH.
I've got the same problem and I'm in Texas. I've had it tell me that and error occurred when connecting, and it won't even accept my user name and password. Haven't been able to figure it out at all.
I've got the same error now as well. When i first changed to TTN7 from 6, it worked and would tell me the traffic only had a like 2 week or 1 month trial or smth, but now it gives me that error all the time, i've tried reinstalling TTN7, redoing the map and none of that changes it.
I see they now have TTN7 listed for PDA's, so hopefully when its on the site for WM, this will be resolved.
Uh. So when traveling back from Virginia to Texas, plus services started working again once I hit west of Birmingham, AL. I don't know if it is coincidence or not.
Are others still having this issue? How about people in the south east US (Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, Georgia, North/South Carolina, Virginia, etc)?
Alan
Well, now it is not working! It has worked fine in TX up until this morning. It all of sudden started giving me the same message.
Anyway else? Anyone have a solution?
How does tomtom determine your region? Device setting, network, gps, tomtom setting?
Alan
Add me to the list
My TT Traffic worked fine through last Friday. Yesterday morning, it stopped working and gave me the error message that we are all seeing. I'm in the Dallas area and am running the stock AT&T rom. I posed this question to TomTom UK to see if they could solve it. Hope there's a fix soon.
--Queso
still a no-go in athens, ga
It's as if TomTom configured their plus services servers to deny access for US users. I called TomTom US support, but they counldn't figure out what was going on. The guy I chatted with thought that the problem might be in Nav7. He suggested I email the UK support folks as they have the ability to look into the Nav7 stuff and he didn't. I'll let everyone know if / when I get a response.
Queso
After a some run around I am back where I began. TT US said to call UK because it's supported there. TT UK says that they don't support it, Germany does. When I called them, none of the options were in english, so am at an impass. I re-installed TT6 and low and behold, the traffic works. So either there is a timeout in the ripped TT7 or TT is blocking TT7 from its Plus Services servers. Bummer either way.
-Queso
Bummer,
Yea TT6 def works. TT7 must communicate with separate servers.
Is there a way to install both TTN 6 and 7 without one overwriting the other and/or forcing the other to be uninstalled? That way I can use a local city map for traffic in 6 (for my commute to work back and forth) and the entire 7 maps for my more extensive travels.
Alan
harty83 said:
Bummer,
Is there a way to install both TTN 6 and 7 without one overwriting the other and/or forcing the other to be uninstalled?
Alan
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I have both installed and they work fine. There are two caveats though, on reinstall of TT7 I used the original release that installs to "internal storage." Also, the install stomps on the existing shortcut for TT6, so you would have to manually recreate the shortcut to get TT6 to run from the program shortcuts
Anyone have the time or skills to see if TT7 can be made to point to the TT6 plus servers?
Queso.
trial or paid subscription?
Just curious, is everyone that is having problems using a trial or have paid to subscribe to the traffic service. I have a trial of the traffic and have run into the same problems and now all TT Plus services indicate not available in my region (yet).
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Just curious, is everyone that is having problems using a trial or have paid to subscribe to the traffic service. I have a trial of the traffic and have run into the same problems and now all TT Plus services indicate not available in my region (yet).
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I have a paid subscription.
harty83 said:
I have a paid subscription.
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As do I. My work around is that I use Nav6 for traffic to / from work and Nav7 for everything else
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Queso
installing both TT6 and TT7
TT7 seem to keep uninstalling TT6 - did you install TT6 to SD?
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I have both installed and they work fine. There are two caveats though, on reinstall of TT7 I used the original release that installs to "internal storage." Also, the install stomps on the existing shortcut for TT6, so you would have to manually recreate the shortcut to get TT6 to run from the program shortcuts
Anyone have the time or skills to see if TT7 can be made to point to the TT6 plus servers?
Queso.
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hi
I just moved from europe to the us and i am wondering what's the best gps software?
I used to use tt6 in europe and i am now using garmin mobile xt.
Why they don't have us map for tt7???
there is US map for both just search the torrents website.
what ???
tt7 don't have us maps, according to there web site!!!
Garmin is 20 times better anyways.
well some features are great in garmin mobile xt but i really think that tt is better!!!
FloJo Premier said:
what ???
tt7 don't have us maps, according to there web site!!!
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I have and use tt7. I have US and Canada maps.
TT7 is much better than Garmin in my opinion. Each to is own.
Copilot Live 8
I am using Copilot Live 8.
They just turned on the live services, including traffic and local search in the US.
The base price of the software is around $35.00 US. A one year subscription for Live Traffic and Local Search is $19.99 USD.
The software has a nice interface, and works well with the Tilt.
@ greywolf1965
where did you get tt7, the maps are not available on there web site!!!
I use OnCourse Navigator 8 and I find it very user friendly. It has US maps and thay seems to be from the same source as google's (I know because in goolge my street map info is wrong as in OCN8 and it used to be good two years ago)
Tomtom doesnt have lake maps which is just one reason i like garmin better. I used to use tt7 with us and canada maps, but then i tried gamin and its like night and day. There are us maps for tt7, but you get us and canada, which is almost a gig of maps. With garmin, you can build a map set of whatever you want and not be forced to carry around maps of places YOU WILL never go. Like i said, garmin is 20 times better
I use a combination of Garmin Mobile XT and Google maps on my Kaiser depending on what I am trying to do. I lost my free internet, so I had to get my own, so I just bought a data plan through T-mobile, so all my personal internetting is done that way now.
The Garmin works well; I hate the routes it tells me to take, although it pretty much always gets you to where you need to go one way or another. The biggest problem I have (maybe I am doing it wrong) is when I want to search for a city such as Jackson, WY, I'll start to enter the name of the city, and it'll bring up a list of Jacksons from every state in the country, and you have to browse through them yourself to find the Wyoming one. If I type J-A-C-K-S-O-N then a comma, WY it won't take it.
It should have a QWERTY keyboard on the touch screen. It will tell me arrival time, but it won't tell me how long it'll take me to get there. I have to calculate it myself, and I'm not sure if it'll take into consideration time zone changes. It'd also be nice to be able to scroll the map with the buttons on the face of the phone as you can with Google maps. That way, it can be done one-handed easily.
Garmin's day/night function is handy to have. All the US maps fit on 1.2 GB, which isn't didly squat for today's storage needs.
Problems with google maps include not being able to get phone calls while your data session is moving data, and when you're out in Timbuktu with no cellular coverage, you're dead in the water. Which is ironic because I never get lost in metro areas. I can always dig my way out one way or another, but when you're not sure if you have to go another 50 miles yet or you missed your turn and have to go back, that is when a GPS is nice to have. But in places where these scenarios actually happen, there's no phone coverage.
Hi Everyone...
For the longest time I have been TomTom's #1 Supporter it seems... I always reccomend it to anyone who was willing to listen... I live in the Milwaukee area, and there are always construction projects, traffic jams, etc all over the place. TomTom was great because I could get traffic updates for under $30/yr.. It was a price I could justify spending each month onto of what I already paid for the software and phone service.
My annual subscription because due a few weeks ago... and I was shocked that it went from abotu $2/mo to $10/mo... I called a rep and they explained to me that it was because now when you subscribe to traffic, you get the entire "TomTom Live" package which includes things like gas prices, weather, etc... Seeing as I have the weather tab on my phone, and know how to check gad prices outside of TomTom, I explained that I really only wanted the traffic... Unfortunatly he explained there is no way to purchase it by itself anymore.... and I can't justify spending $120/yr for the traffic...
I decided to try out some of the other GPS programs... I tried many out back when I first decided on TomTom a few years ago... and many of them have come a long ways.... the one the suprised me the most was the one built in Bing.... It is 100% free, takes up very little space on my device (where my TomTom Map takes up over 1gb), and offers FREE traffic.. Don;t get me wrong, the interface is not as good as TomTom.. but for what it offers, it is great! I do the hybrid overlap map that is the roads along with the areal view from sat images... It loaded the map on the fly as I was driving, even at highway speeds... Its traffic information was accurate.. and its directions were good as well...
There were a few draw backs though... It always has "North" on the top of the screen.. so when I was physicalyl headign south, the image looked "upside down" compaired to how I was used to TomTom looking... And of course there was no C3PO guiding my turns with his voice.. "Depart Master" ..... But over all, I would give it a 7/10 when I combine that it was accurate, takes up almost no space on my SD card, live traffic and other features, and the photo overlays is a cool feature...
So, if you are like me and can no longer afford/justify paying TomTom their new rates, give Bing a shot... If they can work out the few things here I mentioned, I bet it can become a first rate GPS program.
If anyone else has some other suggestions of a setup that is affordable, and supports traffic, pelase share with us..