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why shoud i upgrade my rom?

im going to be getting 2 8125s, looking around some web pages people are upgrading there phones software, why? is the one the phone comes with that bad?

Different systems offer different things. If you have a NEED for one of those things, you may want to consider it. If you take a look around you might also notice that there are more than a couple people who had no idea what they were doing but didn't let that stop them and trashed their phone. It's a really good idea to read, read and then read some more before putting a new system on the device. Know what you're getting into and know what the potential problems are and what you can do about them. Is your device a G3 or a G4? Better know or there's a 50/50 chance of turning your device into an expensive paperweight. More, your warrantee disappeared the moment you started the process. This isn't to say changing the system is fraught with danger, it can be a smooth process if you know what you're doing and follow the directions. But personally, I break into a sweat every time I do it and, not to take away from the guys that create them but I've decided that these custom ROMs just aren't worth it so I stick to the operator ROMs. They've gotten quite good lately, they're operator supported and they don't void your warrantee.

thats what im thinking, being the phone has been out for a while, all the bugs should be worked out.

I upgraded mostly for the better stability. After the 2.17 rom upgrade I really haven't noticed much better speed. But its alot better then when I first got the system.

First of all let me say that is the best n00b post ever from what i have seen!!! you didnt ask a question that has been covered a million times!!!
different strokes for different folks... if you get yours and your happy with its performance and loaded software then there is no need to upgrade... I think most of us have gone for performance and functionality... we were/are happy with the phone overall, but just want to squeeze just a little more out of it then research your options...
just like the old saying, if its not broke then dont fix it.. if your happy, then dont change it... changing roms on these can lead to headaches if your not experienced

[Q] Advice for a noobie on customizing I9000

Im planning on customizing my new I9000, any tips for a noobie?
I had been reading a lot of posts here but it kinda made a little bit confused on where to start...
Thanks in advance for all the help guys!!!

customizing what? kernel ?

Hey there,
I got mine about 4 days back and after trying almost all the launchers available, IMHO, the Launcher Pro seems to be the best. I'm still trying all alternatives, but so far I have found nothing that compares with LP.
Do give their free version a try.
Cheers.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Thanks for replying guys, any more tips/advice?

Neo-ST said:
customizing what? kernel ?
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That's exactly my point, i don't know what to do first, is it like rooting the phone? But i would like to keep some default apps in the phone to stay but totally change the UI...
skiddhard said:
Hey there,
I got mine about 4 days back and after trying almost all the launchers available, IMHO, the Launcher Pro seems to be the best. I'm still trying all alternatives, but so far I have found nothing that compares with LP.
Do give their free version a try.
Cheers.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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Yeah, Launcher Pro seems to be like a great alternative to TouchWiz...

spandsbab said:
Yeah, Launcher Pro seems to be like a great alternative to TouchWiz...
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To your earlier post, none of the launchers need your phone to be rooted or require a custom firmware (thank god for the sake of all noobs ).
On that rooting note, I am still trying to figure out the obvious and apparent advantages of rooting. Had an iPhone from the 2g all the way till the 3gs. It had the jailbreak and the unlock. Is rooting the same as jailbreaking in terms of functionality??
As a side note, see if you can give WidgetLocker a look. The stock Galaxy S lockscreen is boring and too plain for my liking at least. WidgetLocker allows you to put your widgets and icons right on the lockscreen.
Cheers....

skiddhard said:
To your earlier post, none of the launchers need your phone to be rooted or require a custom firmware (thank god for the sake of all noobs ).
On that rooting note, I am still trying to figure out the obvious and apparent advantages of rooting. Had an iPhone from the 2g all the way till the 3gs. It had the jailbreak and the unlock. Is rooting the same as jailbreaking in terms of functionality??
As a side note, see if you can give WidgetLocker a look. The stock Galaxy S lockscreen is boring and too plain for my liking at least. WidgetLocker allows you to put your widgets and icons right on the lockscreen.
Cheers....
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Thanks, great advice there! As for the rooting thing, well I heard they did some custom firmware that fixes the slight lagging thingy. I have had slight lagging when i listen to music and watch movies.. btw my firmware is JG2 (though it says in the Kies that it cannot be further upgraded, i doubt its the latest).

spandsbab said:
Thanks, great advice there! As for the rooting thing, well I heard they did some custom firmware that fixes the slight lagging thingy. I have had slight lagging when i listen to music and watch movies.. btw my firmware is JG2 (though it says in the Kies that it cannot be further upgraded, i doubt its the latest).
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Most welcome.
As for the updates, there are different versions available for different regions. For me in India the upgrade available was JG4. Mine was JG2 out of the box. The new version (JG4) has an inbuilt task manager and a little better performance than the JG2. It fixes a few performance issues from what I have read.
Not really sure how it works, but if you could cheat your system in believing you are in a different location (say India, for eg), perhaps you can get that update too. But do check if its safe pulling off a stunt like that. Check if the phone and the carrier like this at all.
Cheers....

skiddhard said:
Most welcome.
As for the updates, there are different versions available for different regions. For me in India the upgrade available was JG4. Mine was JG2 out of the box. The new version (JG4) has an inbuilt task manager and a little better performance than the JG2. It fixes a few performance issues from what I have read.
Not really sure how it works, but if you could cheat your system in believing you are in a different location (say India, for eg), perhaps you can get that update too. But do check if its safe pulling off a stunt like that. Check if the phone and the carrier like this at all.
Cheers....
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I have read it somewhere here in XDA that you can actually do cheat your location and that it is kinda okay to do that but I think you have to root/flash your phone for that... that's the reason I kinda lean towards rooting the phone cause guys here do faster and better job at fixing issues with the phone than Samsung...

spandsbab said:
I have read it somewhere here in XDA that you can actually do cheat your location and that it is kinda okay to do that but I think you have to root/flash your phone for that... that's the reason I kinda lean towards rooting the phone cause guys here do faster and better job at fixing issues with the phone than Samsung...
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Been doing some reading on the same thing too. The damn iPhone got me so used to jailbreaking, it seems NOT rooting the android is no fun at all....
Here are a couple of links to get you started I suppose.
/showthread.php?t=746129
/showthread.php?t=739300
Will be using them tonight for myself too. In the mean while, if you get an head start over me, best of luck....
Cheers....
P.S.: The XDA system is not allowing me to enter the complete links. A spam protection mechanism of some kind it seems.

skiddhard said:
Been doing some reading on the same thing too. The damn iPhone got me so used to jailbreaking, it seems NOT rooting the android is no fun at all....
Here are a couple of links to get you started I suppose.
/showthread.php?t=746129
/showthread.php?t=739300
Will be using them tonight for myself too. In the mean while, if you get an head start over me, best of luck....
Cheers....
P.S.: The XDA system is not allowing me to enter the complete links. A spam protection mechanism of some kind it seems.
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Yeah, rooting seems to be a lot more fun as i like tinkering a lot (my PC at work was my first victim). Anyway as soon as i get my wi-fi going (hopefully this week) i'm gonna to PM you, thanks bro!

It's only a little like jailbreaking an iPhone, because one of the main advantages of jailbreaking is getting access to apps that Apple wouldn't approve, and Google don't do that. Features that you had to jailbreak for, like multitasking and a deeper level of customisation, are standard in Android.
It's only really needed on Android for low-level manipulation of the system, like installing lag fixes, using backup programs like Titanium Backup, or tweaks like changing the CPU speed settings in SetCPU. I expect that most Android users would be happy never rooting, but most people here are, being either developers or interested in that low-level customisation.
Luckily, the Galaxy S is very easy to root! There's very little security against that (basically none in 2.1 builds), which is quite unlike a lot of other phones, some of which can require quite arcane methods exploiting obscure security holes.

Mithent said:
It's only a little like jailbreaking an iPhone, because one of the main advantages of jailbreaking is getting access to apps that Apple wouldn't approve, and Google don't do that. Features that you had to jailbreak for, like multitasking and a deeper level of customisation, are standard in Android.
It's only really needed on Android for low-level manipulation of the system, like installing lag fixes, using backup programs like Titanium Backup, or tweaks like changing the CPU speed settings in SetCPU. I expect that most Android users would be happy never rooting, but most people here are, being either developers or interested in that low-level customisation.
Luckily, the Galaxy S is very easy to root! There's very little security against that (basically none in 2.1 builds), which is quite unlike a lot of other phones, some of which can require quite arcane methods exploiting obscure security holes.
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I still get lag with I9000 (especially during music and video playing) though very minimal. I would like to try to just change the UI as I feel it still needs work on. Though, my question is can I still get the Froyo update with custom firmware?

As a new android user I have one suggestion for you:
Spend a lot of time reading about all the things you find on this forum and play with your phone a lot
I did not know anything about android or the phone itself (apart from tech specs and a few things I saw on hands on videos and reviews) till I signed up here. I've read a lot here that made me understand how my phone works.
Atm I'm using LauncherPro and my SGS is rooted and running JM5 firmware. If you read related articles you will find that unrooting your phone and restoring it to your stock firmware is fairly easy.
I have been installing, testing and keeping or uninstalling loads of apps. Some of them people have recommended here (like Titanium Backup) and some I just was curious about (like Unified Remote). So I would say browse the market or other onilne sources and experiment with new apps.
I even feel comfortable now to use adb to pull system files from the phone and see what's in them and if there's room for customisation.
Even been reading a bit about Java fgs

Fireloon said:
As a new android user I have one suggestion for you:
Spend a lot of time reading about all the things you find on this forum and play with your phone a lot
I did not know anything about android or the phone itself (apart from tech specs and a few things I saw on hands on videos and reviews) till I signed up here. I've read a lot here that made me understand how my phone works.
Atm I'm using LauncherPro and my SGS is rooted and running JM5 firmware. If you read related articles you will find that unrooting your phone and restoring it to your stock firmware is fairly easy.
I have been installing, testing and keeping or uninstalling loads of apps. Some of them people have recommended here (like Titanium Backup) and some I just was curious about (like Unified Remote). So I would say browse the market or other onilne sources and experiment with new apps.
I even feel comfortable now to use adb to pull system files from the phone and see what's in them and if there's room for customisation.
Even been reading a bit about Java fgs
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Yep two thumbs up for you! Well I have always felt I'm more of a Sith than a Jedi! Be stepping on the dark side soon too, thanks for the great advice and Ima doing it!

Lagfix and longterm consequences

What are the lagfixes longterm consequences? I've herd some unsettling things about it...ranging from bricked phone to catching on fire and exploding,
Now I'm asking since I'm planing to get this or the desireHd and frankly sacred the crap outta me.And since theres like a 80% chance I'm gonna have the lag if I buy it I have to know what are the risks , is it like the regular danger of rooting or something much worse?
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I no longer would recommend the i9000m to people just to many Force Close problems. The phone is unreliable because of the Force Close errors. I was locked out side waited for my phone to boot so I could check a friends buzzer code. I had to put my phone in recovery mode and do a factory reset and lose all my un-backed up personal data on the note pad. That was a big Epic Fail moment for my phone. As much as I hate apple and Itunes at least it works when i needed my Iphone.

Lol, it won't make it catch on fire. If anything it might brick your phone, which wouldn't be a severe brick, easy to recover from using Odin. I reckon the chances of anything going wrong are really low.

4u2nvinmtl said:
I no longer would recommend the i9000m to people just to many Force Close problems.
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Must be something screwed up on your phone because I get no force close errors.
I don't believe there's any real harm using a lagfix. All it does is use a different filesystem, which is actually proven, fast, and reliable, unlike Samsung's own RFS system which seems to be pure crap.
I'm using z4mod. So far is seems reliable and performance is amazing
LOL at "catching on fire and exploding". Whoever you heard that from should lose all credibility if they were serious when saying that

Generally it shouldn't do any HW damage, i.e. NAND wear down, since RFS (as it was mentioned) is pure crap, based on FAT as rumor has it. I believe that each lagFix that uses variations of ext fs will in fact span NAND life.
As for catching fire, etc. This happens on other devices also and more faulty hardware rather than OS problem, so installing lag fix has in my opinion only advantages.
(Well and a hindrance since if you change firmwares often the you need to uninstall the lag fix).

That took a load of mind ...kinda
Hey did you guys ever do a poll how much people are satisfied(or not) with sgs/lag/gps/general problems?
Like I said I want to buy this (samoled FTW) but I'm concerned about all these problems.
If you go to the hero forum lots of people are reporting a craploads of problems which I never had (seriously haven't had an issue since I bought it )
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Just read some spanish forum about how the phone currupts every 4 or so weeks is that true? Imean i dont wanna have to restore every month.
I can just imagine my wife saying: Whatchu doin hunny? Ahh nothing dear, its just that day of the month i have to restore my phone XDD

calexus1182 said:
That took a load of mind ...kinda
Hey did you guys ever do a poll how much people are satisfied(or not) with sgs/lag/gps/general problems?
Like I said I want to buy this (samoled FTW) but I'm concerned about all these problems.
If you go to the hero forum lots of people are reporting a craploads of problems which I never had (seriously haven't had an issue since I bought it )
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Maybe not polled as to say, but if you take in consideration that 5 millions+ units where sold, it's not that big of a number. Frankly, I think the "Plus" outwieght the "cons" largely.
Just don't get it "used" and be sure you can exchange / service it if needed, kinda sucks that you'd spend hundreds without any safe net! But that goes for about anything!

True but still...
And is it 5million excluding the fascinate/captivate/epic variants?
I don't like to buy used , in my experience there's always something the seller isn't telling and will comeback to bite you on the ass.
But about my previous question...is the vodoo fix harmful and is the thing about it corrupting data true?
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[Q] Yet another Bricked Nexus one

I have done it this time, I tried flashing a custom rom (Cynogen 10.1) and Ended up bricking it, I can get it into CWM but when I try to select anything the screen goes blank with just the image of the rom manager that is in the background and does nothing. It corrupted my SD card so recovery is not an option and Fastboot doesnt really work either. Kies doesnt recognize it neither does ODIN. I have tried just about every way to fix it that I have found and all it does is piss me off. CMD in windows does nothing. Anyone have any suggestions? Or can I just run it over with my car, I am totally sick of nexus, and the sidekick sucks just as much. So what are my options?

How about selecting with a different button? Like trackball instead of power, for example?
Nexus is super-easy to deal with and it's very hard to brick one. However, I suggest you read more to get the idea how to work with it. Fastboot is always an option, if you unlock the phone (and there is no reason to keep it locked).

Jack_R1 said:
How about selecting with a different button? Like trackball instead of power, for example?
Nexus is super-easy to deal with and it's very hard to brick one. However, I suggest you read more to get the idea how to work with it. Fastboot is always an option, if you unlock the phone (and there is no reason to keep it locked).
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Holy mother of god you make me feel like such a tard lol.... I don't really know why I didn't think of the trackball. I actually like the Nexus I was just incredibly pissed at it. But I used to track ball to flash the stock rom onto it, Now time to re-root it this time with the boot loader unlocked, and try once again. So erm it works again..... Thanks for the option that was just about the easiest one there is. Definitively going to read up on this phone. I need to for my own sanity and the knowledge of how to do things the easy way lol.
I seriously spent the last 4 hours googling and reading how to fix it and nothing worked.... Then you provided a fix that I should have caught after reading so many pages on google about it :/

You know Kies and Odin are for Samsung phones, right?

I should just stop before I get to far ahead of myself. But the posts I read about fixing this thing. A lot of them said something about using Odin. I can't figure out how to flash roms or anything on this phone. All I have accomplished is unlocking it and rooting it.
Otherwise I just don't understand hboot, blackrose, the s-off thing and or why or how I have to partition anything to install a damned custom rom. I have never had this much of a problem with any other phone than the nexus. Can't get cwm to stick and am considering buying 4ext since there is no free version I don't really have a choice. There used to be a free version but not anymore apparently.
But I have tried to flash a 250mb hboot. Which didn't work, tried to flash cm10.1 which also didn't work. I can't figure it out. I had a friend with a note that wasn't this much of a hassle either. So I am just about ready to give up. I am waiting for the iPhone to come out on T-Mobile late march and I think I'm just going to ditch android. Mainly cause it now is starting to cost money to customize these Androids cause cwm sucks and everything else you have to pay for it seems. Or stay current with the new nexus 7 or whatever. Then when you have a newer phone there is absolutely no point to rooting or flashing roms on it because the only reason for it in the first place is to increase proformance and or upgrade from the crappiest OS's like gingerbread and froyo to jellybean or ICS.
Its whatever I guess. Just too phone illiterate to be able to cope with new technologies I guess.
Hell even pulling a galaxy noteII out of a hard brick is easier than rooting and customizing these phones.
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@kitsuKun, A lot of members here enjoy tinkering with their phone, including me to get the latest version of the Android OS on an old phone. It's not that we can't afford a new phone. So if you have questions, feel free to ask and don't whine
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I am not trying to whine. All I am saying is I don't get the HTC. Can't figure it out. If I have questions I will ask but right now I dont, I have understood what I have read.
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[Q] Samsung Galaxy laggy and unresponsive. How can I fix it? (4 options- see below)

Hi gang.
First off an apology if some of this/ all of this has been heard before. I spent all morning trawling forums and the internet in an attempt to fix the problems, but none seem to be anything I can deal with without getting some guidance from people in the know beforehand.
I have had my Galaxy tab GT-P1010 for a couple of years now and been very happy. It was origionally running Froyo, which is what the models ship with. Foolishly I presumed any updates from Samsung would be a benefit to the tab. The device is now rather clunky. Scrolling is slow and sluggish, programs crash without warning and the latest trick is that dialogue boxes are non-responsive (i.e. 'your phone will shut down: ok, cancel' does nothing when I press either option. Repeatedly. In rage.) The only option I have now for shutting down is to let the battery bleed out or hold the power key to switch off. I've tried things like factory reset, but even after reset, I'm still left with stupid old gingerbread.
Looking around there seem to be some options, but after reading through several times, I still have no clue. I understand that part of the problem is samsungs 'bloatware', of which there is plenty.
I'm not really sure how to go about it- I understand there are programs out there- Odin, Nandroid etc, but I'm a little lost on the lingo, and a little reluctant to go poking around without any decent knowledge.
Can anyone help? Or is this really a 'send it back to smasung job? It looks like I'm faced with these options:
1) somehow backdate from Gingerbread to Froyo
2) Strip out the samsung OS and install another launcher (which sounds like a can of worms to me)
3) send it back to Samsung and never EVER touch another one of their stinking updates.
4) another straightforward option that I haven't considered
Please help! (bear in mind I'm a total code-tard)

Return to froyo if that is the state where you are most comfortable with.
Another option would be, buy a new tab with better specs.
Sent from my boyfriend's home

Actually, the best solution is to UPgrade, not downgrade. There are many decent guides out there for modding your Galaxy Tab and flashing a custom ROM. Personally I've found that the stock Android ROMs (the device's OS, so to speak), particularly the older ones, are very slow in and of themselves. If you want, I can guide you through the process, PM me if you feel like it. Or you can PM a veteran like priyana, he has the biggest Thanks Meter I've seen so far on this end of the forums.
Modding your system, from personal experience gives you a major performance boost. You should first try this alternative before thinking about buying another device.

I scan the forum often, and thanks for the good words, geno,
But I don't know much beyond P1000 model.
But there are a few threads for P1010 that seems solid and has good followers.
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priyana said:
I scan the forum often, and thanks for the good words, geno,
But I don't know much beyond P1000 model.
But there are a few threads for P1010 that seems solid and has good followers.
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You deserve them man. Anyway, how different is the P1010 from the P1000? My own model, the NTT DoCoMo SC-01C, is actually nothing more than a rebranded P1000. Surely the operations can't be all that different for another model of the Galaxy Tab line. Does the Overcome kernel and ROM, for example, flash on other models or is it exclusively for the P1000?
EDIT: To the op, I actually did some looking around and found that the P1010 is something of a black sheep in the Galaxy Tab line. There are few, if any, custom ROMs for it, but there were a few threads that describe tweaks for performance and other things. They are the following:
Galaxy Tab GT-P1010 (WiFi Only) NooB Guide (you've probably already seen this)(you should also check the Thread Consolidation post somewhere there)
This thread shows some promise for CyanogenMod on your device, but it seems to have dropped off.
This thread might help you with your lag problem, as it (supposedly) brings you to the latest Gingerbread build.
In summary, though, it looks like I spoke too soon. There may, in fact, not be a better alternative than simply getting a new device. The Nexus 7 is currently hailed as one of the best Android tablets out there, and I find that it's pretty reasonably priced at $199 or so.
The open nature of Android is one of the reasons I love it so much, but if you can't do much with your particular device then you're not getting the most out of what Android has to offer. If I were in your shoes I'd probably switch if I had the money for it.
Anyway, that's the best I can do. Good luck with your device, man. If you ever decide to try tweaking it and/or need to ask some questions about the applications involved and other terms and such, priyana should be able to help you.
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Apparently the hardware is quite different. Your SC-01 is still quite close.
The heart of the ROM is the kernel and if the hardware is different, the kernel is bound to be different.
Not many top devs looking at P1010, so I think not much poking into the kernel been done.
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