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[QUESTION] Why does the app menu lag with more apps?

When I wiped my ext partition and had maybe 20 default apps on, the app launcher moved like a beast, instant, basically like the godly iphone UI + a discrete adjuster.
However now I'ved restored my 250ish apps/elements it now lags like a mofo. What I want to know is what physically is being limited hardware wise, and is there any way to boost the performance of this memory? I assume it would be between CPU, RAM and GPU, although I dont understand how it could be annoy of those [sorry for my noobishness]:
CPU: Snapdragon, OCed, not exactly CPU intensive anyway
RAM: Have 250MB free, never seems to get 'full' when i quickly tab to the usage
GPU: This is what I guess, but if so why cant we get around this with a less intensive menu setup? Surely all that is happening is we have 20-25 icons + labels floating up and down on a screen? To be honest id prefer literally just that on an instant screen over the 'oo that looks nice.... oh wait it lags like a *****' we have now.
Any comments would be appreciated

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well, one thing which would probably slow down the launcher is the sd card speed... and considering u've got a helluva lot of apps on ur sd card, it seems like a plausable reason...

Is anyone able to confirm that? Surely though its precached the icons and names somewhere though :/

dogiedogie said:
Is anyone able to confirm that? Surely though its precached the icons and names somewhere though :/
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if you use CM rom you can go to spare parts and enable "keep launcher in memory" that usually helps a lot

I have Kang, so has a launcher over CM. The setting was enabled, but i dissabled and renabled to see if that was a problem. Possibly did solve a bit of it, but it still takes at least half a second for the menu to catch up with my finger, even including 'touch lag'. The only way you can see what I mean is if you play with an empty phone, its INSTANT.

dogiedogie said:
I have Kang, so has a launcher over CM. The setting was enabled, but i dissabled and renabled to see if that was a problem. Possibly did solve a bit of it, but it still takes at least half a second for the menu to catch up with my finger, even including 'touch lag'. The only way you can see what I mean is if you play with an empty phone, its INSTANT.
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probably some runaway apps taking a toll on ram and system resources.
i did a major clean up yesterday and my phone is zippier than ever

dogiedogie said:
Is anyone able to confirm that? Surely though its precached the icons and names somewhere though :/
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You mean the activity/app choice list right? (like when you make a application shortcut, or view installed applications). It does lag when you have a lot of apps. If it does cache the data its definitely short-term, if you try it again after a day its slow the first time.
Lets hope froyo has something to make it faster, systemwide.

britoso said:
You mean the activity/app choice list right? (like when you make a application shortcut, or view installed applications). It does lag when you have a lot of apps. If it does cache the data its definitely short-term, if you try it again after a day its slow the first time.
Lets hope froyo has something to make it faster, systemwide.
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Sorry, if there is any misunderstanding I am talking about the app menu, where you go to open your apps from the home page.

dogiedogie said:
Sorry, if there is any misunderstanding I am talking about the app menu, where you go to open your apps from the home page.
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ok, I dont have noticeable lag with my 140 apps. I have a 6 column launcher too

britoso said:
ok, I dont have noticeable lag with my 140 apps. I have a 6 column launcher too
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I assume the only difference between our phones then is SD card.
I have http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001CQT0X4/ref=oss_product
EDIT: http://www.steelbytes.com/?mid=20&cmd=download&pid=1&lang=eng I used that and got a read speed of 3mb/s, could you do the same so we can see if its that?
Cheers.

then is SD card.
I have http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001CQT0X4/ref=oss_product
EDIT: http://www.steelbytes.com/?mid=20&cmd=download&pid=1&lang=eng I used that and got a read speed of 3mb/s, could you do the same so we can see if its that?
Cheers.
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for my Ridata 16GB (class6/6x), tested by mounting and via usb.
Read: 3.1 MB/sec (approx 20x)

britoso said:
for my Ridata 16GB (class6/6x), tested by mounting and via usb.
Read: 3.1 MB/sec (approx 20x)
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Hmmm :/ So its not my SD card. I just dont understand why it physically lags, when I watch people showcasing some new app etc, their menu is perfectly fluid, even with a similar number of apps.

Anyone have any other ideas?

Having a issue with my tasks on my phone.

Im having a issue right now with my tasks and apps. on my Galaxy S. Im on Serendipity 5.4 Just installed it like hours ago so im wondering whenever i use Advance task killer and I Kill all my apps. Some of my apps start up right after i close them . I wonder why this happens because it just taking more of my memory and I don't like apps running in the background. Especially the ones that use 3g .So if anyone can recommend too a app or setting that can stop these apps from starting back up. I would greatly Appreciate thx very much or if anyone is experiencing the same issue. I would appreciate a solution. Sry this is my first post on this website . So im a newb. Although i have somewhat done my reading. Btw Serendipity is a awsome rom.thanks.

Ditch the task killer.

newter55 said:
Ditch the task killer.
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So what your saying is the task killer isn't working how it suppose to be working and go get a different one?thanks

newter55 said:
Ditch the task killer.
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actually im messing with the auto kill settings now. lol such a noob

Android seeks to increase performance and efficiency by loading apps into memory and leaving them there after use. This does not mean that they are using CPU cycles or accessing the network. Killing off apps actually will consume more energy as they will need to be reloaded when they are needed again and in many cases this occurs automatically as you are seeing.

newter55 said:
Android seeks to increase performance and efficiency by loading apps into memory and leaving them there after use. This does not mean that they are using CPU cycles or accessing the network. Killing off apps actually will consume more energy as they will need to be reloaded when they are needed again and in many cases this occurs automatically as you are seeing.
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Very Intelligent. Thanks

[Script] Ram Optimizer/Rom speed booster by Juwell

Original thread Here
All credit goes to Juwell for the script.
MORE SMOOTHNESS, MORE SPEED, LESS LAGS AND ENOUGH FREE MEMORY​
Hi guys,
after long time of testing I found the best balance for RAM, this script will make your RAM in the best optimization, the best optimization means the best balance between free memory, multitask, speed of launching apps and system speed. It means that you'll still have enough free memory (you'll have free memory as much as you need, because it is not good if you have really a lot of free memory, because Android's work with memory is different from other OS) and you can fully use your multitask, my script doesn't kill your app automatically when you minimize it. Your system and switching between apps or launching apps will be very fast.
Now you don't have to use Task Killer!
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Requirements: Root, Kernel which supports init.d
Lowmemorykiller values
-Values which mainly affect your multitask and free memory. Values of my script were made for combination of using multitask and still have enough free memory.
VM values
-Very important values which affect your battery consumption, system speed and speed of launching apps.
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HOW TO CHECK IF SCRIPT WORKS
Download "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" and check values:
LMK values
10MB, 16MB, 24MB, 48MB, 56MB, 72MB
VM values
50, 10, 5, 10, 90, 5
ROM devs can use Juwell's script in their ROMs, but give the proper credit.
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!!!WARNING!!!
INSTALL IT ON YOUR OWN RISK.​
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I have been testing this script with Rewind 3D Sense 3.0 and switching between apps and navagating threw the homescreen is a lot smoother.
Downside, it kills my battery pretty fast, 3 hours and already down to 50% lite use.
I attached the flashable.zip and the script by itself.
Enjoy!!
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INSTALLATION
1) Download attached file (RAM_Script-CWM.zip) and install it with CWM
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So far tested and confirmed working on​
Incredible 2 ReMix - working
KInGdOm ReWiND 3D - working
I think the script works for any rom, but I haven't tested all. If any of you test and confirm working, please advise so I can update this post.
Regards

No need to add it to ReMix, it's already in there

Yup its in both my pure speed rom and the upcoming update for my hybrid speed.

wildstang83 said:
Yup its in both my pure speed rom and the upcoming update for my hybrid speed.
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Sweet cant wait to test your hybrid with this speed booster!

So what would happen if I put auto killer to the mac while running this script ?
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk

So the script is killing the battery, or the task app?

hightech316 said:
So what would happen if I put auto killer to the mac while running this script ?
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk
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That would be overkill. The task killer apps actually hurt the phone's battery more than help anyway, so this script should be enough.

badogg said:
So the script is killing the battery, or the task app?
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kills battery.. I turned off auto sync, animations and brightness on low... Battery seems to be doing better.
Rom is flying though!!! "Remix"
Sent from my Phone using XDA App

Flashed over senseless banshee...no ill effects so far, and seems much zippier.

im on miui, the version before the newest.
my battery percentage hasnt budged in 2 hours, and went down 1 just a minute ago. not sure how but my battery life is better then it ever has been.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

running great on an oldie but goodie, ruby rom with incredikernel. might have to try on miui considering the latest version lags like crazy for me. Also noticed an increase in battery life as well
DINC+XDA=CRACK

so how do you tell if it is working correct i downloaded autokiller but not sure what to look for

jdog94 said:
so how do you tell if it is working correct i downloaded autokiller but not sure what to look for
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Just check the original thread Here
Also another cool script Here.
They are all fun to play around with

Can this be flashed with RA-Recovery? I Hate CW

i got AutoKiller Memory Optimizer but i dont see the values it says to look for

flashed but the script never went to system/etc/init.d like it's suppose to. extracted and moved it myself but values never changed after reboot

dyetheskin said:
flashed but the script never went to system/etc/init.d like it's suppose to. extracted and moved it myself but values never changed after reboot
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+1
Manually moved s97ramscript using root explorer. Set Permissions rwxrwxrwx, rebooted and I am not seeing the correct values in Autokiller Memory Optimizer.
Not really sure wtf is going on here, running MIUI with incredikernel, both latest versions.

I had the same issue with the script. Remove "s" from the script so it should be "97ramscript". It should work. Worked for me after I did that.

whats different between this one and V6 SuperCharger? V6 supercharger doesnt require Cw flashing, just script manager and busybox 1.18.2

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Ace remove lag

Hello!
My Ace has a problem. Maybe is not only may Ace, but the thing is, sometimes it turns to be verry slow...I mean, realy slow. This, most of the times, happens after he is in standby mode for a long time.
So, my question is: What is the best rom for resolving this problem, keapping everything working properly?
Thanks
Miguel

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MorcegoChakal said:
Hello!
My Ace has a problem. Maybe is not only may Ace, but the thing is, sometimes it turns to be verry slow...I mean, realy slow. This, most of the times, happens after he is in standby mode for a long time.
So, my question is: What is the best rom for resolving this problem, keapping everything working properly?
Thanks
Miguel
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I had a custom lockscreen that was very slow. If its when you unlock/bring out of standby then it might be the same thing. Use a small (filesize small) lockscreen and see if that helps. If its large and uses 3d etc then yes, it is slow.

allebone said:
I had a custom lockscreen that was very slow. If its when you unlock/bring out of standby then it might be the same thing. Use a small (filesize small) lockscreen and see if that helps. If its large and uses 3d etc then yes, it is slow.
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The one I use is the original one, from gingerbread...

MorcegoChakal said:
The one I use is the original one, from gingerbread...
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another possible explanation is that some people install battery management profiles eg: cpu tuner.
in this case people somtimes apply an overly restrictive cpu profile on the "screen off" profile so it uses only a small amount of battery. While this does indeed save battery, it also causes there to be a larger delay than normal when unlocking the device from deep sleep.
Pete

Try increasing CPU mhz.You can also try tweaking minfree values. one easy way to that is to use ROM toolbox pro Or use RAM manager from the market to give your ace more RAM

allebone said:
I had a custom lockscreen that was very slow. If its when you unlock/bring out of standby then it might be the same thing. Use a small (filesize small) lockscreen and see if that helps. If its large and uses 3d etc then yes, it is slow.
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allebone said:
another possible explanation is that some people install battery management profiles eg: cpu tuner.
in this case people somtimes apply an overly restrictive cpu profile on the "screen off" profile so it uses only a small amount of battery. While this does indeed save battery, it also causes there to be a larger delay than normal when unlocking the device from deep sleep.
Pete
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BlueSteelSS said:
Try increasing CPU mhz.You can also try tweaking minfree values. one easy way to that is to use ROM toolbox pro Or use RAM manager from the market to give your ace more RAM
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I'll try that...or even other roms...thanks everyone!

[Q] very very high ram usage in every rom

hello everyone
i have galaxy ace
its ram usage is very high. most of the time it go beyond 240 or 250
i dont install much applications. just use only 20 to 25 app
same problem in stock rom as well as cm7.2 roms
when i clear ram it go to 180 or 190 but aftr few minuts its come to around 240.
high ram usage makes my phone laggy and some time its hang
i tried clear cache, wips and reboot but does not work.
tried some task killer. but no work.
is there any other solution.
should i try any other rom if yes then which one for less ram usage.
pls suggest

arshad522 said:
hello everyone
i have galaxy ace
its ram usage is very high. most of the time it go beyond 240 or 250
i dont install much applications. just use only 20 to 25 app
same problem in stock rom as well as cm7.2 roms
when i clear ram it go to 180 or 190 but aftr few minuts its come to around 240.
high ram usage makes my phone laggy and some time its hang
i tried clear cache, wips and reboot but does not work.
tried some task killer. but no work.
is there any other solution.
should i try any other rom if yes then which one for less ram usage.
pls suggest
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lol. you install 20 to 25 apps and still wonder why the phone needs so much ram? apps like twitter, whatsapp are cached in the memory. If you install more of apps like these then you can hardly expect smoothness. just install the neccessaries.

-BRK- said:
lol. you install 20 to 25 apps and still wonder why the phone needs so much ram? apps like twitter, whatsapp are cached in the memory. If you install more of apps like these then you can hardly expect smoothness. just install the neccessaries.
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i install only neccessaries
like opera mini, whatsup,adw launcher,gmail and some other.
dont install facebook,twiter
and clear cache daily.
still high ram usage by os. when i clear ram it goto 160/170. it should goto atleast 100/110 when ram clear.
any solution.

arshad522 said:
i install only neccessaries
like opera mini, whatsup,adw launcher,gmail and some other.
dont install facebook,twiter
and clear cache daily.
still high ram usage by os. when i clear ram it goto 160/170. it should goto atleast 100/110 when ram clear.
any solution.
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try ultimatum rom. ram management is good. the rom is smooth in holo interface. but don't expect wonders.

arshad522 said:
hello everyone
i have galaxy ace
its ram usage is very high. most of the time it go beyond 240 or 250
i dont install much applications. just use only 20 to 25 app
same problem in stock rom as well as cm7.2 roms
when i clear ram it go to 180 or 190 but aftr few minuts its come to around 240.
high ram usage makes my phone laggy and some time its hang
i tried clear cache, wips and reboot but does not work.
tried some task killer. but no work.
is there any other solution.
should i try any other rom if yes then which one for less ram usage.
pls suggest
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rightly said by @-BRK- cos your question is unless when you mentioned that you use around 25 apps brother
ace cannot handle so much even on stock { for sure if apps like facebook , messenger .whatsapp and twitter are installed }
use only necessary apps

aditya rathee said:
rightly said by @-BRK- cos your question is unless when you mentioned that you use around 25 apps brother
ace cannot handle so much even on stock { for sure if apps like facebook , messenger .whatsapp and twitter are installed }
use only necessary apps
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i think 20 app is not much.
and i dont install heavy app like facebook masenger and twiter.
galaxy ace sucks in ram management.

-BRK- said:
try ultimatum rom. ram management is good. the rom is smooth in holo interface. but don't expect wonders.
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i will try this rom some day.
instaling procedure seems long and complicated.
any way thnks.

arshad522 said:
i think 20 app is not much.
and i dont install heavy app like facebook masenger and twiter.
galaxy ace sucks in ram management.
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yeah buddy you are right
ram management is poor on ace so again i will say the number of apps is large that you use

aditya rathee said:
yeah buddy you are right
ram management is poor on ace so again i will say the number of apps is large that you use
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okk no permanent solution for reduce ram usage...

arshad522 said:
okk no permanent solution for reduce ram usage...
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there are many scripts available to do so but there combos may be hazardous for phone
like you can try pure performance by @Jeeko or fly on mod by @slaid480 or adrenaline series by @ImbaWind
they can help you decrease ram upto some extent

arshad522 said:
hello everyone
i have galaxy ace
its ram usage is very high. most of the time it go beyond 240 or 250
i dont install much applications. just use only 20 to 25 app
same problem in stock rom as well as cm7.2 roms
when i clear ram it go to 180 or 190 but aftr few minuts its come to around 240.
high ram usage makes my phone laggy and some time its hang
i tried clear cache, wips and reboot but does not work.
tried some task killer. but no work.
is there any other solution.
should i try any other rom if yes then which one for less ram usage.
pls suggest
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Hi arshad, I think if you want to boost your ace you can try to turn off every unnecessary apps notification. This reduce battery ram usage. Of course, you won't have push notification.

aditya rathee said:
there are many scripts available to do so but there combos may be hazardous for phone
like you can try pure performance by @Jeeko or fly on mod by @slaid480 or adrenaline series by @ImbaWind
they can help you decrease ram upto some extent
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thanks u frnd
i think these scripts will solve my problem.
tnhks again.....

seanchong said:
Hi arshad, I think if you want to boost your ace you can try to turn off every unnecessary apps notification. This reduce battery ram usage. Of course, you won't have push notification.
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notifications are niccessry to me.. so i cant turn it off.

arshad522 said:
notifications are niccessry to me.. so i cant turn it off.
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Make slimer your rom, delete all the useless and unncessary apps or freeze apps using Titanium Backup e.g. The best is to delete
Avoid widgets, animated wallpapers, heavy launchers/mods etc...

U can give a try to my script. (Of course it does work for S5830 too)

Viper The Ripper said:
Make slimer your rom, delete all the useless and unncessary apps or freeze apps using Titanium Backup e.g. The best is to delete
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i know all these things and i deleted many app. i think only some scripts will solve my problem. any way thnks

Viper The Ripper said:
Make slimer your rom, delete all the useless and unncessary apps or freeze apps using Titanium Backup e.g. The best is to delete
Avoid widgets, animated wallpapers, heavy launchers/mods etc...
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i completely agree with you sir

arshad522 said:
i know all these things and i deleted many app. i think only some scripts will solve my problem. any way thnks
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What ROM are you using? Try using The Ultimatum ROM with HOLO UI & with Firekernel. Sure it will work for you. Link2sd will be the best part to use in it

keylocker said:
What ROM are you using? Try using The Ultimatum ROM with HOLO UI & with Firekernel. Sure it will work for you. Link2sd will be the best part to use in it
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tried stock and some cm7 roms.
still i am using miracle v4 because it is very light but ram management is not gud.
i am gonna try this ultimatom rom in some days because two person recomend me.
just one question does this rom has any bug.
is everything working in this rom.
thnks

arshad522 said:
tried stock and some cm7 roms.
still i am using miracle v4 because it is very light but ram management is not gud.
i am gonna try this ultimatom rom in some days because two person recomend me.
just one question does this rom has any bug.
is everything working in this rom.
thnks
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AFAIK, its bug free but there will be something or the other in everything which cannot be said by everyone cause bugs depends upon user usage. You can use it and won't regret. Choose HOLO UI during installation