[Q] Battery problems G1 - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi to everyone! I have a g1 and I decided to use it again. I replaced the battery for a new one (I bought it few days ago). When I used after charging it all night it just lasted 3 hours. Then I googled for solutions and I did all what I found (charge it full and reset battery stats and let it drain all, charge it with the phone off, etc) without results. Then I tried one Barry with more capacity (the ones that you need to change the cover) that a friend have and was the same. After more or less three hours, the phone turned off. I had cyanogenmod 7 installed with the latest radio and spl. Today I tried with stock room, unrooted with the same results.
If someone knows a solution, please let me know. Thanks

It may be your ROM, but this is very new to me, even those big ones? Try another ROM:FroyoByLazslo is my favourite and fastest

I'm checking with the stock rom, but I'm going to give a try. Thanks!

Hi,
maybe you overclocked it very much; this can use very much battery. If you want to save energy, you should undervolt it...
Hardy

Hmmm, I don't think is that. I tried with the stock room (1.6) and was the same. And this morning I tried to use the phone, but I had decided last night to turn it off to save battery and was dead! Maybe the phone has something... today I flashed the room froyo by laslo, looks good and is fast! I'm going to underclock it and see what happen. Also I read something about a draining problem when you connect it in the laptop through usb, might it is the cause of all this?

Only with some kernels, if your drain problem is due to software then flash a different kernel
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demkantor said:
Only with some kernels, if your drain problem is due to software then flash a different kernel
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Yeah, may didn't wipe during a ROM change?
PS: You're welcome!

HI, after checking all that you say. I wipe all and after I charged the battery, y wip e the stats and now is working better! With the normal one, I get 6 hours on standby and with normal use, 4..... I tried with 2200mhA and I get 12 hours with medium use, but I with this one the phone is bulky..... BUt well now is my gps!
Thanks!

No prob dude we are here to help the guys who need help, that's why it's a forum XD

TC, you must understand that all G1 batteries are quite old now. They were made betwixt 2008-2010, batteries begin losing their max charge right after they are made in the factories. It's only natural for your battery life to be poor, batteries can be damaged heavily by heat sources, my notebook's battery life became 5 Minutes b/c the wear level was extremely high. I assume your G1's battery is in "bad" condition cell wise. Either calibrate or buy an OEM battery(3rd batteries are tricky). If you calibrate try one of these...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312273
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187698
Also if you need battery you should honestly stick with cupcake, donut. Anything past that is already sluggish and pushes the G1, which means the CPU is always at max which leads to shorter battery. And lets not forget the post donut versions have more services and what not.

Ace42 said:
(3rd batteries are tricky)
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What's wrong with 3rd party batteries? In my experience I've had two different ones bought off eBay and each worked better than my new OEM battery.

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Unexplained phone shut down

Im not sure if this question has been answered but i could not find the answer to my question and i really need an answer so sorry if this is already posted.
First off i have a G1 (Dream) and have rooted it. Ive been flashing roms for a while first starting with 1.6 and Heros and now have HTCClays Superbad. Recently i have noticed that the phone just shuts off suddenly when im not hooked to the charger and im either streaming video or even just using apps. Im not sure if its the battery or the phone. Ill charge the phone to FULL then either use apps or use the brower to view video or even Skyfire and the phone wil shut off. I restart it the battery is either half what it was prior or it will start blinking red. I take the battery out and put it back in and the battery is back to green, if i open up an app itll run for like 2 minutse then the phone shuts off again. I have no clue whats going on here because ive been flashing roms the same way since the first rom i flashed which was Fasttest. Could it be the partition im using? Could it be the rom? Battery? Does anyone know whats going on here? Any help would be so appreciated!
this is my partition setup
96mb
512
Fat32 Remainder
Ext2 to Ext3
It sounds like its the battery... do you tether on your comp alot? My buddy is on his 3rd battery because he sits tethered to his computer all night playing first person shooters, all the while leaving his phone plugged in for 8 hours straight
junkdruggler said:
It sounds like its the battery... do you tether on your comp alot? My buddy is on his 3rd battery because he sits tethered to his computer all night playing first person shooters, all the while leaving his phone plugged in for 8 hours straight
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Ive never used a tether app before. I dont even know how lol. And i forgot to mention that when the phone shuts off and i restart i get the red blinker and a shut off then when i plug the phone back into the charge its at 75%, wth? It started doing this just recently.
you might try to drain the battery all the way down and then recharge it to get it to top shape...
if you take the battery out its not fat or bulging is it?
junkdruggler said:
you might try to drain the battery all the way down and then recharge it to get it to top shape...
if you take the battery out its not fat or bulging is it?
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uh oh! yes it looks fatter like def not straight. Crap what did i do
Yeah that sounds like a battery issue... luckily you can get extended batteries for cheap nowadays.. or you can check the xda marketplace...
junkdruggler said:
Yeah that sounds like a battery issue... luckily you can get extended batteries for cheap nowadays.. or you can check the xda marketplace...
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Thank you! When i saw the battery i thought it didnt look right but was hoping it wasnt the battery. Guess i need to get a new one
its probably an OC kernel
your battery is probably fine
Firerat said:
its probably an OC kernel
your battery is probably fine
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as junkdruggler asked, the battery is definitely bloated. So Firerat are you saying even with the battery bloated it could still be fine? and what is the OC Kernel is there a way to fix this issue?
Thanks for the help
Im pretty sure its the battery... I called it being bloated before he even opened the back... Ive seen it done before... I know I might not know as much as firerat but id be willing to bet its the battery
junkdruggler said:
Im pretty sure its the battery... I called it being bloated before he even opened the back... Ive seen it done before... I know I might not know as much as firerat but id be willing to bet its the battery
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yeah
I missed the fat bat
but OC kernels seem to be the root of random shutdowns, reboots and freezes
and it could be what ran the battery out of spec
Its an over-charging thing...Ive seen it done to two g1s so far..Ive had mine since day one and charge it overnight almost every night. So Im not too sure of what over charging is... thats ateast 500 charges at 5-7 hours plus whatever I charge on the side at work or heavy days
Its the battery....
The same thing was wrong with mine
My battery was "swollen" and I just got another one off craigslist and it works perfectly fine
Its usually cuz you use it a lot while its charging...
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junkdruggler said:
Its an over-charging thing...Ive seen it done to two g1s so far..Ive had mine since day one and charge it overnight almost every night. So Im not too sure of what over charging is... thats ateast 500 charges at 5-7 hours plus whatever I charge on the side at work or heavy days
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Thanks junkdruggler. So ok im a little confused with your last quote, so you said its an over charging thing but then you said youre not sure what over charging is...sorry that was just a little confusing. Do you know what causes this bloating? And is this a general thing with batteries? ill avoid doing whatever causes this in the future.
drklink said:
Its the battery....
The same thing was wrong with mine
My battery was "swollen" and I just got another one off craigslist and it works perfectly fine
Its usually cuz you use it a lot while its charging...
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So if i use the phone while its plugged in this causes the bloating? Do you know the proper charging techniques so that i dont run into this again?
Firerat said:
yeah
I missed the fat bat
but OC kernels seem to be the root of random shutdowns, reboots and freezes
and it could be what ran the battery out of spec
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what are OC kernels?
Yeah im not sure how much charging or use while charging is a bad thing... like i said I charge my phone overnight, every night. on a day like today I will watch a movie on the way to work then play music til my phone dies and charge it on the way home... so today my phone will get two charges.. and this happens alot. I have no drain issues or a "fat batt"
My buddies sit on 3g with wifi tether on while charging off their usb port for hours on end.. and the bloat their batteries.. I dont know if its the heat or what..
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Yeah im not sure how much charging or use while charging is a bad thing... like i said I charge my phone overnight, every night. on a day like today I will watch a movie on the way to work then play music til my phone dies and charge it on the way home... so today my phone will get two charges.. and this happens alot. I have no drain issues or a "fat batt"
My buddies sit on 3g with wifi tether on while charging off their usb port for hours on end.. and the bloat their batteries.. I dont know if its the heat or what..
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Thanks alot man! This really helped, i ordered a new battery from buy.com. You can do all that on your phone? And you have a G1? How long have you had the battery in it? Do you have one of those extended batts? ANd i will say that i do use the phone while hooked to the charger a lot like using the blutooth. i def cannot watch a movie on my G1. I might just wait till my contract ends in dec to switch from tmobile to Att or something i thought tmobile would be the king of android phones but its been really disappointing to see all the good phones go to wack Verizon (the network i switched from).
Firerat said:
yeah
I missed the fat bat
but OC kernels seem to be the root of random shutdowns, reboots and freezes
and it could be what ran the battery out of spec
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Hi Firerat!
I got this problem too, the phone keep reboots, shutdowns and freezes randomly, more and more often.
I tried many ways: flash another ROM, change battery (2300mAh on ebay and tried my friend's HTC Rogers Dreambattery also), wipe all.... but nothing help.
I almost gave up. But when I search in this forum, I found your post.
What is OC kernels? Can you please help me solve this problem?
Thanks in advance.
nomadic_boy said:
Hi Firerat!
I got this problem too, the phone keep reboots, shutdowns and freezes randomly, more and more often.
I tried many ways: flash another ROM, change battery (2300mAh on ebay and tried my friend's HTC Rogers Dreambattery also), wipe all.... but nothing help.
I almost gave up. But when I search in this forum, I found your post.
What is OC kernels? Can you please help me solve this problem?
Thanks in advance.
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OC = OverClocked
if the ROMs you are using are running the CPU out of spec it is probably that which is causing the issues
you can use an app called SetCPU, this will allow you to set the CPU frequencies
default 'stock' frequencies are
245 - 384
the CPU is actually rated 528 ( I believe it was underclocked due to battery issues, but things have moved on since then, so 528 is a stable max )
OK kernels can have a range of 122 - as much as 600+,
use the auto detect feature of SetCPU and use the slider to narrow the range
160 - 575 seems to be stable
160 - 528 should be fine
Many people fall into a trap of setting a very low narrow range in a sleep profile, believing this will save battery, which it will but it will 'lag' coming out of sleep.
Personally I have the sleep profile 160 - 528
when in sleep it will underclock ( as its doing nothing ) but if I wake it ( or call comes in ) I won't suffer lag while SetCPU waits to change profiles ( it will just scale up to the max if needed )
PS SetCPU is available from the market, just $0.99, but the dev has made it freely available on XDA
so give it a try and go for the market donate if you like it/ find it usefull

G1 Battery Lasts Only 2 Hours (Help)

My G1 battery is only lasting 2 to 3 hours for some reason. it is a 1400 mAh by seidio. I am running the SuperFroyo 2.6 Lite by Superatmel. i got the battery online like 3 months ago and it was used. Any ideas or suggestions to save battery. and/or should i get a new battery? Thanks
Kensei22 said:
My G1 battery is only lasting 2 to 3 hours for some reason. it is a 1400 mAh by seidio. I am running the SuperFroyo 2.6 Lite by Superatmel. i got the battery online like 3 months ago and it was used. Any ideas or suggestions to save battery. and/or should i get a new battery? Thanks
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Try another Rom Super D v1.9.3 and SuperFast v1.3.3 are excellent Donut (1.6) ones to test your battery issue.
ok ill try out SuperD thanks
I will bet that your battery issues are not ROM-related. Being that its an after-market battery, and used, it's probably outliving its life spam. To my knowledge, batteries are meant to provide a certain number of charges, every time you plug the power cable into the phone to charge it, that constitutes for one charge. Whether its for 5 minutes, or 5 hours. They usually have a set number, somewhere around 500 charges. After that, it slowly stops holding a solid charge.
I would suggest buying a NEW battery, not used.
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I will bet that your battery issues are not ROM-related. Being that its an after-market battery, and used, it's probably outliving its life spam. To my knowledge, batteries are meant to provide a certain number of charges, every time you plug the power cable into the phone to charge it, that constitutes for one charge. Whether its for 5 minutes, or 5 hours. They usually have a set number, somewhere around 500 charges. After that, it slowly stops holding a solid charge.
I would suggest buying a NEW battery, not used.
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Youre assumption is correct, thats why I directed him to flash a Donut rom to test and see if the short battery life occurs again.
Until we hear from him we wont be 100% in our hypothesis.
Youve gotten ahead of me and commented about the battery being the culprit, damn, beat me to it. ha ha ha.
i would say its lasting longer, but only by 1 to 2 hours more. so im going to buy a new battery. thanks for the advice tho
ALSO, while downgrading to Donut, While wiping, MAKE SURE your battery is FULLY CHARGED and wipe the battery stats. Check back.
ok my battery wasnt fully charged while wiping everything and downgrading. instead of re-flashing and downgrading can i just re-calibrate my battery? sorry for the late reply
me too
same rom - same problem .
i have a genuine battery , my g1 last one hour and 12 mins with the super froyo rom.]
real shame as i love the rom .
I have that rom and it the best battery life I have found so far on this phone...
There's a thread similar to this bellow and I recommended this:
3 thinks you can do
1)check for a better rom and\or verify if your gps, wi fi and on while this happens
2)Recalibrate your battery
2A Discharge it until it shuts itself off.
2B) Recharge it back to full and then leave it charging for another few hours even after it says it is full
2C)repeat if needed
3)buy a new one...
Good luck
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battery life

hey guys
in the last couple of weeks ive flashed about 5 roms which consider to be good.
i have to say I really like android but one issue keeps me frustrated
and thats battery life.
how can it be that my friends iphone battery lasts so much more then my galaxy s1?
ive gone through numeros guides decreased brightness to minimum
stopped syncing my gmail account and other stuff as well.
as time goes by im regreting not buying iphone when i had the chance
because battery is one of the most important things in a smartphone.
currently,
i am 25 years old student studying computer science in the university
which means im out most of the day.
its not that rare for me to be stuck without battery and its so frustrating.
i ask for your help please,
what is the best rom for s1 regarding battery life
and has hebrew on it?
(im from israel)
thanks alot mates!
Have you ever calibrated it after flashing?
BlueFlame4 said:
Have you ever calibrated it after flashing?
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yes man everytime after flashing a new rom im calibarating when reaches 100
let it drops to 0 and turn off
then charging to 100 again.
i just want my battery to last hehe
It doesn't benefit at ALL
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Dropping to 0% is the worst thing a LI-ION battery can experience.
There are some calibrations methods around, you can try some apps but I think you ROM just needs some time to calibrate the battery sign. Are you running a zillion of apps in the background?
Another option is to buy a new battery with more power. stock battery has 1500mah. but you can get a battery with 1800mah for your s1.
Did you wipe battery stats in cwm?
Disable mobile data or switch to 2G only it helps a lot. Phone will drain battery if you have a bad signal
I have to second the disable the data connection recommend. Also your battery life will get better the longer you use a rom and the more charge/discharge cycles your battery sees. To be clear that does not mean 100%-0% every time just regular charging.
I'm personally on GB and with data disconnected for most of the day and the 1800mah battery I have been on the same charge for almost a week and still have 30% left. It's truly amazing!!
BlueFlame4 said:
Dropping to 0% is the worst thing a LI-ION battery can experience.
There are some calibrations methods around, you can try some apps but I think you ROM just needs some time to calibrate the battery sign. Are you running a zillion of apps in the background?
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Dropping below the minimum voltage is what you're talking about, and that's not possible because of the controller on each battery. That's why the phone dies when it hits 0% (or thereabouts) even though it still has plenty of power left over to run the device. Running a full cycle on the battery will be just fine.

[Q] High 'Android OS' battery usage

Hello all. I've been having this problem for a while and I can't quite seem to solve it.
I'm using an MPJ 7000mAh extended battery, Slim Bean 4.2.2 build 7, NX kernel, overclocked to 1600mhz, and the Hyper CPU governor. I also set the voltage for 1.6ghz to 1300mV, which appears to be the same as 1.4ghz's stock voltage.
An imgur album with all the screenshots you need is here: http://imgur.com/a/heaqg
Here is the link to a BBS text dump: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0coZNyjlSVAdVdYVVBpTVpCOGs
This issue is really bugging me and I hope someone can help me out.
Thanks
This is exactly what my phone has been doing for months and I can't figure out for the life of me what it is. I have used several apps to monitor CPU, battery, and application usage, but I can't pinpoint what is causing it. I just turn off Wifi and data and it stops most of the battery usage. I was just coming to ask the same question, but I saw this post instead. I would love to figure this out, as it as happened on my current and last ROM.
yentlequible said:
This is exactly what my phone has been doing for months and I can't figure out for the life of me what it is. I have used several apps to monitor CPU, battery, and application usage, but I can't pinpoint what is causing it. I just turn off Wifi and data and it stops most of the battery usage. I was just coming to ask the same question, but I saw this post instead. I would love to figure this out, as it as happened on my current and last ROM.
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It doesn't seem to be dependant on WiFi or data for me. I keep both of them off when I'm at home and the same thing still happens.
Hopefully we can both fix this stupid problem.
I was having a look at a review for the new Nexus 7, and the battery information on it looked very similar to that of mine.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/08/03/2013-nexus-7-review/
I switched back to Slim Bean's stock kernel. Looking much better. http://imgur.com/oTKW6TP.jpg
CustardNOM said:
I switched back to Slim Bean's stock kernel. Looking much better. http://imgur.com/oTKW6TP.jpg
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The Android OS looks a lot better than what mine looks like. Maybe I'll have to try that kernel also. What were you on before? I'm on a CM kernel that came with my rom.
How old is your Note? I acquired mine just a couple months after they very first came out. Over the past few months while on my current ROM, I have had lots of random freezing and shut downs. I figured it was the ROM and just kept on restarting. (I'm lazy and didn't want to flash something else). Froze today again, like usual, so I pulled the cover off, and yanked the battery. However, while the battery was out, I noticed that it has started to swell. I don't know if this is recent or I just haven't noticed it. Perhaps my battery is the cause of all my problems. I wouldn't doubt it, as the battery that went out in my Galaxy S 4g pretty much rendered the phone useless as it kept on swelling.
Now I don't know if the battery swelling could also be related to the high "Android OS' usage, but I thought I would let you know. That's two Samsung batteries that I have had go bad on me in my two most recent devices. I'll be ordering another OEM battery here shortly to see how it affects the problems I have had. I'm actually surprised that I didn't notice it yet. My stats right now have the battery at 14%, with 12+ hours on the battery, and only 36 minutes of screen-on time. Pretty screwed up stats, I'd say. Of course, Android OS is top of the list for using 64% of it so far.
Summary: Check battery. Maybe our problem has an easy solution.
yentlequible said:
How old is your Note? I acquired mine just a couple months after they very first came out. Over the past few months while on my current ROM, I have had lots of random freezing and shut downs. I figured it was the ROM and just kept on restarting. (I'm lazy and didn't want to flash something else). Froze today again, like usual, so I pulled the cover off, and yanked the battery. However, while the battery was out, I noticed that it has started to swell. I don't know if this is recent or I just haven't noticed it. Perhaps my battery is the cause of all my problems. I wouldn't doubt it, as the battery that went out in my Galaxy S 4g pretty much rendered the phone useless as it kept on swelling.
Now I don't know if the battery swelling could also be related to the high "Android OS' usage, but I thought I would let you know. That's two Samsung batteries that I have had go bad on me in my two most recent devices. I'll be ordering another OEM battery here shortly to see how it affects the problems I have had. I'm actually surprised that I didn't notice it yet. My stats right now have the battery at 14%, with 12+ hours on the battery, and only 36 minutes of screen-on time. Pretty screwed up stats, I'd say. Of course, Android OS is top of the list for using 64% of it so far.
Summary: Check battery. Maybe our problem has an easy solution.
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If the battery is swollen it means it's faulty and if you leave it too long is likely to explode.
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SpyderTracks said:
If the battery is swollen it means it's faulty and if you leave it too long is likely to explode.
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I know. I have already ordered a replacement.

Seriuos Overheating and Battery Problem??

Hi everyone! My phone is 2 months old, 1 week ago, my phone start to heat so badly, in upper part is really really hot... As a matter of fact the battery is drained really fast, 3 hours in stand by... Before can get one day easily... Make a factory reset, doesn't work... The problem start a few days after I update de stage fright update, you think is the problem? Anyone else experience this? The phone is out of warranty in USA, cause is a UK version, xt1068....
Ty:good::good::good:
processor in probably running at full speed doing something it's not supposed to. I seriously doubt it's a hardware problem so I would recommend unlocking the bootloader and try using another ROM.
could it be as a UK phone in USA its always trying to find a better network? this would cause heat and drain issues?
Yeah think the same. I'll try... The 5.1 update it suppose to comes up this month...
reefuge said:
could it be as a UK phone in USA its always trying to find a better network? this would cause heat and drain issues?
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I do not think so... Happens the same, without sim...
Besides, even when I charge power off, with a wall adapter 1A, it never charges, because it discharge more easily than charge. I have to charge with a 2A charger, but is really slow, more than 8 hours to get completly charge... What do you think?
As decipher said, what seems to be is a process eating all the battery and keeping the CPU at full speed. We don't know if it's an app you're using or an Android problem so to see it the best thing you can do is to unlock your bootloader, install twrp or cwm recovery and then flash a custom rom. Personally I had some overheating problems on my xt 1068 at stock version and battery drain, but not this 3 hours standby you're getting. Now I'm using Minimal OS and it's working nice! Tell us if it solves your problem! Good luck! :good::fingers-crossed:
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As decipher said, what seems to be is a process eating all the battery and keeping the CPU at full speed. We don't know if it's an app you're using or an Android problem so to see it the best thing you can do is to unlock your bootloader, install twrp or cwm recovery and then flash a custom rom. Personally I had some overheating problems on my xt 1068 at stock version and battery drain, but not this 3 hours standby you're getting. Now I'm using Minimal OS and it's working nice! Tell us if it solves your problem! Good luck! :good::fingers-crossed:
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Yeah, ok, so, when I charge it power off, it still keeping heat and draining the battery, so weird, right?
Keroque said:
Yeah, ok, so, when I charge it power off, it still keeping heat and draining the battery, so weird, right?
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Yes. I don't like to say this, but maybe it's a battery issue. But let's listen what other people say.

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