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OK, I know battery life is always an issue with PDA phones. I'm never far from a charger. I'm fine as long as I'm just checking e-mail (4 accounts, once an hour) and a little light web surfing with Opera Mini.
The problem arises when I use my phone as...well...a phone.
My Tilt loses battery power at an alarming rate when I'm talking on the phone. A 20 minute conversation will easily cost me 40% of my battery.
I'm usually in a non-3G area, so I'm on Edge. I normally have a good, strong 4-bar signal. Even when I'm in a 3G area, I use a different comm manager to turn off 3G to conserve power. I use KaiserTweak and select all the "Advised" settings in the power-related sections.
I've tried several different radios, but haven't noticed an improvement.
Does anyone have any ideas or recommendations on improving the efficiency of my Tilt in phone mode?
I have the same problem.
I have 3 batteries. 2 Samsungs and 1 Dynapak. Each battery lasts about 3 hours in standby. The phone is always warm as well. I have a utility that shows the phone is running around 380mAh current. That's seems pretty high.
I think theres something seriously wrong with certain batches of these phones.
these phones r seriously poor for battery life.. i love the htc but they slowly being overttaken by other phones.. shame!
maybe depends on the battery and ROM/radio because my Kaiser lasts 1 gay of VERY heavy usage+calling, and in stand by can lasts 6 days at least.
profusion said:
maybe depends on the battery and ROM/radio because my Kaiser lasts 1 gay of VERY heavy usage+calling, and in stand by can lasts 6 days at least.
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Really??
So, what battery are you using? Which ROM? Which radio?
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maybe depends on the battery and ROM/radio because my Kaiser lasts 1 day of VERY heavy usage+calling, and in stand by can lasts 6 days at least.
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mine too or maybe more. Normally I charge every 2 days.
Seriously though, hasn't this topic been beat to death with a stylus?
Ask youself this, how is your battery and what all is running on the phone?
If the battery is a year old then just accept that it's shelf life is over with. If your phone is always warm that would general mean that one of the radios is running, Wifi , data, gps? If any of those are running all of the time or when you are not using it, then your draining the battery.
I have a friend that beat himself up trying to figure out why his battery would drain so fast, he reflashed the phone 3 times a day etc etc etc. He just could not accept that it was a crappy battery. I got another (used battery) and it worked fine.
ChumleyEX said:
mine too or maybe more. Normally I charge every 2 days.
Seriously though, hasn't this topic been beat to death with a stylus?
Ask youself this, how is your battery and what all is running on the phone?
If the battery is a year old then just accept that it's shelf life is over with. If your phone is always warm that would general mean that one of the radios is running, Wifi , data, gps? If any of those are running all of the time or when you are not using it, then your draining the battery.
I have a friend that beat himself up trying to figure out why his battery would drain so fast, he reflashed the phone 3 times a day etc etc etc. He just could not accept that it was a crappy battery. I got another (used battery) and it worked fine.
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Me too used to get about 2 days with a 2700 that is being registered correctly, i now tell everyone to not phone me "well they don't listen just like no one does" so i block all incoming calls with MagiCall, to what point do i have a phone now? To flash & twaek and text
"Am kinda joking but my stylus is now half the size due to this topic"
Buy a new battery.
I don't dig long phone calls unless there is something going on. Too many people just want to hang out on the phone and say nothing.
ChumleyEX said:
Buy a new battery.
I don't dig long phone calls unless there is something going on. Too many people just want to hang out on the phone and say nothing.
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Mine is a new battery Have to say same about people talking about nothing.
"The loss of battery was due to phonecall and radio i'm not moaning either i expect the battery life to not be perfect on any WM phone"
Well yeah radio version help too.
ChumleyEX said:
mine too or maybe more. Normally I charge every 2 days.
Seriously though, hasn't this topic been beat to death with a stylus?
Ask youself this, how is your battery and what all is running on the phone?
If the battery is a year old then just accept that it's shelf life is over with. If your phone is always warm that would general mean that one of the radios is running, Wifi , data, gps? If any of those are running all of the time or when you are not using it, then your draining the battery.
I have a friend that beat himself up trying to figure out why his battery would drain so fast, he reflashed the phone 3 times a day etc etc etc. He just could not accept that it was a crappy battery. I got another (used battery) and it worked fine.
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This isn't my first foray into these HTC devices. I've been using them for nearly 2 years now, and I know the battery life on these devices isn't what it is on something like my old RAZR. I'm just fine with that; since the Tilt does so much more, I don't expect the charge to last a week like my RAZR did. But this drain while using the phone is driving me nuts.
FYI, I know to keep WiFi and GPS off, and to use KaiserTweak to shut down data connections when they're not being used. If I don't use the phone or surf, the battery will easily last me 2 days, and that's with checking 4 e-mail accounts every hour, and with SBSH PocketWeather getting updates every 2 hours. But talk on the phone, and it's a different story. I talked to my wife for about 30 minutes last night and went from 80% to 20% battery level.
The battery is only about 7-8 months old. Still, I ordered a new 1600ma battery last week, and it should be here in a day or two. I'm hoping that solves the problem.
It's possible that the battery you have now is under warranty. (if you bought the phone new)
good luck.
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It's possible that the battery you have now is under warranty. (if you bought the phone new)
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Unfortunately, it was a refurb, and the warranty expired a long time ago. The new battery wasn't exactly a budget killer.
Well my battery seems to be working now.
Phone is no longer hot all the time, and my utility says I'm using between 1 and 64 mA. That's much better than the 350+ mA it was sucking before.
I didn't do a damn thing different either. Didn't change any settings for the radios, didn't reflash, etc..
Some people think that the GPS get's stuck in the "on" position and there's no way to turn it off, short of opening and closing GPS Aware programs repeatedly until your current usage drops in the sub 100 mA range.
Always discharge your battery fully as possible at least 1 a week to ensure your battery last longer, lots of charges above the threshold will diminish your batteries life and capacity. The Kaiser is a powerful device and it is obvious to anyone that this requires power to run it, so the battery wont last for days. :-(
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Always discharge your battery fully as possible at least 1 a week to ensure your battery last longer, lots of charges above the threshold will diminish your batteries life and capacity. The Kaiser is a powerful device and it is obvious to anyone that this requires power to run it, so the battery wont last for days. :-(
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HUH???????
These are Lithium batteries, we aren't in the 90's anymore buddy.. My phone lasts for at least 2 days and sometimes 3 (the phone is over a year old too)..
Welcome to the year 2009
"1. Battery Memory - When I first got my new cellphone, my friend recommended to fully drain the battery before recharging it. His reasoning was connected to the idea of battery memory. Allowing the battery to fully discharge then recharging to max, supposedly gives you the complete battery capacity. Otherwise, if you simply charged from the half way point to max battery capacity, the battery would treat the half way point as the empty point, thus cutting your battery capacity in half.
Problem is battery memory doesn’t apply to Lithium batteries, this advice was meant for Nickel based batteries. Fully discharging your Lithium battery frequently can actually be quite harmful to your battery’s health, possibly rendering it completely unusable if energy levels go too low.
The good news is today’s lithium batteries have a safety circuit in place to insure the battery doesn’t reach the point of no return. The safety circuit isn’t fool proof of course, if you leave your battery completely drained for a few days, even the circuit’s protective measures won’t save it.
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INFACT it's recommended to leave a little bit of a charge before charging or storing.
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Be that as it may, when you get a new battery you still have to use it for a few weeks before the phone reports battery levels accurately. The phone may still shut down when WM thinks it's almost empty, regardless if it's actually empty or not. Just try it, battery life improves over the first few weeks of usage, and your battery level readings will get more stable (instead of dropping to 50% in 10 minutes and then proceeding to stay there for 6 hours).
BTW my kaiser lasts about 3 days as well, with fairly heavy usage.
No fair, I want a bazillion stars next to my name too.
I Think this guy has had the phone and battery for a little while, so the few weeks thing might not be an option. (well at least the battery he was posting about)
HUH???????
These are Lithium batteries, we aren't in the 90's anymore buddy.. My phone lasts for at least 2 days and sometimes 3 (the phone is over a year old too)..
Welcome to the year 2009
"1. Battery Memory - When I first got my new cellphone, my friend recommended to fully drain the battery before recharging it. His reasoning was connected to the idea of battery memory. Allowing the battery to fully discharge then recharging to max, supposedly gives you the complete battery capacity. Otherwise, if you simply charged from the half way point to max battery capacity, the battery would treat the half way point as the empty point, thus cutting your battery capacity in half.
Problem is battery memory doesn’t apply to Lithium batteries, this advice was meant for Nickel based batteries. Fully discharging your Lithium battery frequently can actually be quite harmful to your battery’s health, possibly rendering it completely unusable if energy levels go too low.
The good news is today’s lithium batteries have a safety circuit in place to insure the battery doesn’t reach the point of no return. The safety circuit isn’t fool proof of course, if you leave your battery completely drained for a few days, even the circuit’s protective measures won’t save it.
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INFACT it's recommended to leave a little bit of a charge before charging or storing.
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As refered to your reply, i didnt mean discharge fully completely i meant the cut off point would stop you anyhow, i meant to bring it to about 10%, i found that using the battery until it reaches 10-12% far by decreases battery drain when it is fully charged again, this is only 1 in a while though not frequently. I understand lithuim-ion doesnt have a memory effect problem, but there is such thing as variable current influencing different cells which can either benefit or make it worst, there is a lot of debate as to whether this improves it or not.
Great tip, keep it cool and away from your pocket pants because heat kills it.
Dude thats no fun to keep it out of your pocket,
My G1 battery is only lasting 2 to 3 hours for some reason. it is a 1400 mAh by seidio. I am running the SuperFroyo 2.6 Lite by Superatmel. i got the battery online like 3 months ago and it was used. Any ideas or suggestions to save battery. and/or should i get a new battery? Thanks
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My G1 battery is only lasting 2 to 3 hours for some reason. it is a 1400 mAh by seidio. I am running the SuperFroyo 2.6 Lite by Superatmel. i got the battery online like 3 months ago and it was used. Any ideas or suggestions to save battery. and/or should i get a new battery? Thanks
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Try another Rom Super D v1.9.3 and SuperFast v1.3.3 are excellent Donut (1.6) ones to test your battery issue.
ok ill try out SuperD thanks
I will bet that your battery issues are not ROM-related. Being that its an after-market battery, and used, it's probably outliving its life spam. To my knowledge, batteries are meant to provide a certain number of charges, every time you plug the power cable into the phone to charge it, that constitutes for one charge. Whether its for 5 minutes, or 5 hours. They usually have a set number, somewhere around 500 charges. After that, it slowly stops holding a solid charge.
I would suggest buying a NEW battery, not used.
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I will bet that your battery issues are not ROM-related. Being that its an after-market battery, and used, it's probably outliving its life spam. To my knowledge, batteries are meant to provide a certain number of charges, every time you plug the power cable into the phone to charge it, that constitutes for one charge. Whether its for 5 minutes, or 5 hours. They usually have a set number, somewhere around 500 charges. After that, it slowly stops holding a solid charge.
I would suggest buying a NEW battery, not used.
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Youre assumption is correct, thats why I directed him to flash a Donut rom to test and see if the short battery life occurs again.
Until we hear from him we wont be 100% in our hypothesis.
Youve gotten ahead of me and commented about the battery being the culprit, damn, beat me to it. ha ha ha.
i would say its lasting longer, but only by 1 to 2 hours more. so im going to buy a new battery. thanks for the advice tho
ALSO, while downgrading to Donut, While wiping, MAKE SURE your battery is FULLY CHARGED and wipe the battery stats. Check back.
ok my battery wasnt fully charged while wiping everything and downgrading. instead of re-flashing and downgrading can i just re-calibrate my battery? sorry for the late reply
me too
same rom - same problem .
i have a genuine battery , my g1 last one hour and 12 mins with the super froyo rom.]
real shame as i love the rom .
I have that rom and it the best battery life I have found so far on this phone...
There's a thread similar to this bellow and I recommended this:
3 thinks you can do
1)check for a better rom and\or verify if your gps, wi fi and on while this happens
2)Recalibrate your battery
2A Discharge it until it shuts itself off.
2B) Recharge it back to full and then leave it charging for another few hours even after it says it is full
2C)repeat if needed
3)buy a new one...
Good luck
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Last friday purchased HTC Incredible S, since I'm kinda hardcore user of phones (previously had old crap Samsung Tocco Lite - was surfing on internet + listening music, without problem could survive 10-12hrs nonstop use), now when I tried same with Incredible S, it end up that after 2-3 hrs of surfing + some app using for awhile, I ended up at 30-35% from 100%. I did turned all syncs off, brightness to minimums, turned of almost everything and all tasks, so it was just like test for how long surviving it with no internet(wifi/mobile),any sync, any sound/vibration and low brightness - it survived 1 hour longer then before. Like srsly 400£ worth phone with battery what can't hold even 6 hrs?
P.S. first try with apps and such was record for 4 hrs, next test without any apps etc etc survied 5 hrs...
The battery gets better in time.
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prinzhernan said:
The battery gets better in time.
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I see that you have Incredible too, how long your battery lasts when using atleast 2h of app/call/internet usage?
same here, I need to keep charging it. maybe upgrading the kernel and rom helps.
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The battery gets better in time.
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I'm seeing this aswell. The more i use my phone the better the battery gets.
my battery does last 1day 12-15hr. All sync on, mobile networks on, background sync on. Normal use, that is incredible.
well when i first got my IS, the battery life is ridiculously short, from 100% -> 20% in 2 hrs of intense use!
But the battery life is getting better at day 3 (around 5x full charge cycle), do the calibration thing, use till 1%, but make sure phone is not dead, and recharge to 100%, redo for like 5 times.
If battery life still sucks, i think you get a bad battery
My battery lasts 9 hours of intense use (Wifi,3G,Games,Surf net,Listen to music)
Hello
I have installed Battery Monitor Widget Pro to check battery consumption. You can see so which are the applications that drain more your battery, tipically the display.
My battery runs one full day, even one and half with Wifi and BT always ON and normal telephone usage but if I switch on 3G it decrease rapidly and sometimes cannot reach one full day.
So in my case the 3G connection drains a lot.
Stefano
I've had mine since late april and I get a whole day, at least, out of it. Yesterday, I actually went 24 hours without charging it and I still had 30% left. The only "syncs" that are on, are my gmail, weather and Whatsapp. I can definitely confirm it gets better with time!
has anyone ordered from Amazon.Co.Uk, I was wondering if they can refund for phone, so I can take instead HTC Sensation :/
Anyways, I got this phone like 3-4 days ago, now I'm trying to maximally drain it with apps/games to get that battery life up
sense drains your battery...
and also 3g drains it if you have a unstable connection
what i allways do is out of the box, drain it 100%
charge it 100%
drain it 100%
charge it 100% and your done...
might be a ghost story, but surely seems to work for me, however 12hours and mine is empty as fk, with gaming, bad 3g connection, wifi, gtalk etc.etc. aka daily usage..
but thats cuz im running cyanogenmod, which isnt 100% stable yet
Do people not read anything these days? You're complaining about battery life of a smart phone... None of them last longer than a day or two max. Not to mention it's a new toy and you can find yourself on it more often. Checking the battery constantly kills your battery. Tones of widgets kill your battery.
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I do understand about 1-2 days of uptime for phone is ok, but mine doesn't survive even 6h +_+ , contacted HTC and they said that battery is fauly.
ANyways... I dont use widgets and actually turned of all sync and stuff like that to prevent battery drain, even in airplane mode, it drains from 40 to 5% (to complete dead) in about 1-2 hrs
I find battery life pretty poor. After charging to 100%, it can be down to 90% within half an hour - without really even using the phone. I can turn on the phone at 7am, and it will be down to between 50 and 40% by 11pm, never normally enough to get through the next day.
I'm going to try some overclocking to see if that helps.
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I find battery life pretty poor. After charging to 100%, it can be down to 90% within half an hour - without really even using the phone. I can turn on the phone at 7am, and it will be down to between 50 and 40% by 11pm, never normally enough to get through the next day.
I'm going to try some overclocking to see if that helps.
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Overclocking will drain even more battery, downgrade better speed of it and it should save battery
I've found that for the first few weeks of having the phone, the battery life will be crap... cause you're generally always messing around with it.
Lately I've been getting two work days out of a charge (6am to ~6pm the next day). I rooted the phone, uninstalled a bunch of bloatware, and set it to underclock when the screen is off (although I'm having issues with that one at the moment).
I'm thinking to buy other phone instead of this (amazon is accepting this for refund/replacement now), so I was thinking if it's worth take Sensation instead of Incredible S?
I am on Prime HD 8.0 and the battery life is dismal. I wiped battery stat, deleted unwanted apps but the battery life is still too bad.I changed the ROM and the problem persists. So its not a software issue. My X8 is almost two years old so I suspect its the battery. Is there any way i can check battery health? The shape of the battery hasnt changed or anything. Any opinions?
Secondly, if I do have to go in for a battery, should I get the EP500 standard 1200mah battery or the Mugen Power's 1300mah battery? Has anyone used the latter? Is the higher price I need to pay for the latter justified by better battery life?
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I am on Prime HD 8.0 and the battery life is dismal. I wiped battery stat, deleted unwanted apps but the battery life is still too bad.I changed the ROM and the problem persists. So its not a software issue. My X8 is almost two years old so I suspect its the battery. Is there any way i can check battery health? The shape of the battery hasnt changed or anything. Any opinions?
Secondly, if I do have to go in for a battery, should I get the EP500 standard 1200mah battery or the Mugen Power's 1300mah battery? Has anyone used the latter? Is the higher price I need to pay for the latter justified by better battery life?
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try to use eclair (2.1) for few days
because you are runing custom
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try to use eclair (2.1) for few days
because you are runing custom
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Dont think that'll help. After charging to 100%, the battery drops to 90% after 5 mins of use!
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Dont think that'll help. After charging to 100%, the battery drops to 90% after 5 mins of use!
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u use battery for 2 years...... new battery for shure
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Dont think that'll help. After charging to 100%, the battery drops to 90% after 5 mins of use!
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My battery does that too on custom roms (99-90% in a few mins, but it drains a whole lot less after that). And it's not even a year old. Do try to flash back to stock with minimal apps installed and check the battery drain for just 2-3 days. I do think it's the battery, but it doesn't hurt to be sure.
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my battery is one year old and it runs good. try wipe battery stats and use stock eclair for a few days. and make sure you dischard it to 0% ( you can even power on your phone) than charge it to 100% on stock eclair. make sure you have turned gps off and use 2G networks if you you dont use mobile data. ---- but I think you know that already. configure wifi sleep policy, brightness, turn off unnecesary apps etc.
If you have battery for cca. 2years. - its very possible that you need to change it. And I think you should but first try whats mentioned above
Battery draining from 100% to 90% fast is normal. Just FYI
RohinZaraki said:
Battery draining from 100% to 90% fast is normal. Just FYI
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Not in 1-2 mins
I have flashed my Att I897 with RemICS JB rom, and then I ran the battery dead. Then I fully charged it and it doesn't last 5 hrs now. I even calibrated the battery. Any ideas, or is this normal with custon rom?
Have you tried any other roms? Download a battery stat app let it run a few days and see what's using up all of the battery. Did this happen prior to flashing or no?
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Have you tried any other roms? Download a battery stat app let it run a few days and see what's using up all of the battery. Did this happen prior to flashing or no?
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I have been running this rom for a few weeks, with no issues. Then went out and bought a new phone, and my brother needed one so I gave my I897 to him . I reflashed it, to clean everything up and let him put on the apps he wanted. And the battery does with in 4-6 hrs. I will d/l the stat app and see where is goes.
I have another I897 runnig the same rom, on my daughters phone, and it has great battery life still.
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if your brother is making heavy use of the phone, with screen on much of the time, then 4 to 6 hours is normal.
running the batt dead once shouldn't kill it. there are protections in pm chip to stop before batt voltage gets too low.
aging, as in several hundreds of charge cycles, will reduce batt capacity to half or less of original capacity.
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oh, and swapping the batteries between the two phones and running a few days will tell if battery age is the problem.
I'd say it's time for a new battery. 2y old battery has significantly reduced capacity. I'm using original Samsung Epic 4G Touch SPH-D710 1800mAh battery, fits well in Captivate with stock cover. Battery life is very good for a smart phone. Stand-by >48h easily, holds >18h with about 2h talk + 3-4h screen on. Currently on SlimBean 2.5 ROM. Search eBay, it's about $15 only. Avoid cheap noname 1800mAh (or even more "on paper") Chinese batteries, usually the real capacity is well below claimed capacity.
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I'd say it's time for a new battery. 2y old battery has significantly reduced capacity. I'm using original Samsung Epic 4G Touch SPH-D710 1800mAh battery, fits well in Captivate with stock cover. Battery life is very good for a smart phone. Stand-by >48h easily, holds >18h with about 2h talk + 3-4h screen on. Currently on SlimBean 2.5 ROM. Search eBay, it's about $15 only. Avoid cheap noname 1800mAh (or even more "on paper") Chinese batteries, usually the real capacity is well below claimed capacity.
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I was getting a good 10 hrs on it till I reflashed it this last time. I had great battery life with that little phone. That includes texting and FB'ing talking
I have 2 more and I still get great battery life.
I've never tried RemICS JB but I'm in doubt the ROM itself is causing battery drain. I'm getting almost same battery live with CM10 Stable, PAC-ROM, SaltyBean SE, SlimBean. Currently running SlimBean. Make sure it's not an app you install after flashing the ROM. Never restore system data from your previous ROM, just user apps + data. Look at the battery panel and you'll see what is draining your battery. Btw, clearing battery stats does nothing. You can't really calibrate the battery. Android OS will adjust battery meter automatically after 2-3 recharges.
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I've never tried RemICS JB but I'm in doubt the ROM itself is causing battery drain. I'm getting almost same battery live with CM10 Stable, PAC-ROM, SaltyBean SE, SlimBean. Currently running SlimBean. Make sure it's not an app you install after flashing the ROM. Never restore system data from your previous ROM, just user apps + data. Look at the battery panel and you'll see what is draining your battery. Btw, clearing battery stats does nothing. You can't really calibrate the battery. Android OS will adjust battery meter automatically after 2-3 recharges.
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Yeah. I found out one prob was he was trying to charge it with just hooking it up to a pc. Know it seems back to normal since he used the wall charger, for a overnight charge
I've charged from the PC many times with decent battery life results... Don't know if that's the reason why the battery life has been cut short.
A good way to gauge what is causing the battery drain would be to do as ValD said. See what is using up the most battery life from the battery panel and try to deduce it from there.
Have you tried full wipe, re-d/l the ROM, and flashing the ROM again? Double check the md5 or sha1 code from the website when you d/l the ROM too.
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Yeah. I found out one prob was he was trying to charge it with just hooking it up to a pc. Know it seems back to normal since he used the wall charger, for a overnight charge
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yeah, some PC only provide max 100ma per port, which means ~ 15 hrs. and the cap in phone for usb is set to 350ma, or about 5 hours, unless you have kernel that supports fast usb charging.
still, if the phone was charged to 100%, it shouldn't matter whether AC charger or PC used. Was he not charging it to 100% ?
fyi, the difference to phone is that pins 2 and 3 of usb are shorted in AC charger. This causes phone to allow higher charging current, up to 900ma, or as much as battery can take without overheating.