I have flashed my Att I897 with RemICS JB rom, and then I ran the battery dead. Then I fully charged it and it doesn't last 5 hrs now. I even calibrated the battery. Any ideas, or is this normal with custon rom?
Have you tried any other roms? Download a battery stat app let it run a few days and see what's using up all of the battery. Did this happen prior to flashing or no?
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Have you tried any other roms? Download a battery stat app let it run a few days and see what's using up all of the battery. Did this happen prior to flashing or no?
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I have been running this rom for a few weeks, with no issues. Then went out and bought a new phone, and my brother needed one so I gave my I897 to him . I reflashed it, to clean everything up and let him put on the apps he wanted. And the battery does with in 4-6 hrs. I will d/l the stat app and see where is goes.
I have another I897 runnig the same rom, on my daughters phone, and it has great battery life still.
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if your brother is making heavy use of the phone, with screen on much of the time, then 4 to 6 hours is normal.
running the batt dead once shouldn't kill it. there are protections in pm chip to stop before batt voltage gets too low.
aging, as in several hundreds of charge cycles, will reduce batt capacity to half or less of original capacity.
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oh, and swapping the batteries between the two phones and running a few days will tell if battery age is the problem.
I'd say it's time for a new battery. 2y old battery has significantly reduced capacity. I'm using original Samsung Epic 4G Touch SPH-D710 1800mAh battery, fits well in Captivate with stock cover. Battery life is very good for a smart phone. Stand-by >48h easily, holds >18h with about 2h talk + 3-4h screen on. Currently on SlimBean 2.5 ROM. Search eBay, it's about $15 only. Avoid cheap noname 1800mAh (or even more "on paper") Chinese batteries, usually the real capacity is well below claimed capacity.
Val D. said:
I'd say it's time for a new battery. 2y old battery has significantly reduced capacity. I'm using original Samsung Epic 4G Touch SPH-D710 1800mAh battery, fits well in Captivate with stock cover. Battery life is very good for a smart phone. Stand-by >48h easily, holds >18h with about 2h talk + 3-4h screen on. Currently on SlimBean 2.5 ROM. Search eBay, it's about $15 only. Avoid cheap noname 1800mAh (or even more "on paper") Chinese batteries, usually the real capacity is well below claimed capacity.
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I was getting a good 10 hrs on it till I reflashed it this last time. I had great battery life with that little phone. That includes texting and FB'ing talking
I have 2 more and I still get great battery life.
I've never tried RemICS JB but I'm in doubt the ROM itself is causing battery drain. I'm getting almost same battery live with CM10 Stable, PAC-ROM, SaltyBean SE, SlimBean. Currently running SlimBean. Make sure it's not an app you install after flashing the ROM. Never restore system data from your previous ROM, just user apps + data. Look at the battery panel and you'll see what is draining your battery. Btw, clearing battery stats does nothing. You can't really calibrate the battery. Android OS will adjust battery meter automatically after 2-3 recharges.
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I've never tried RemICS JB but I'm in doubt the ROM itself is causing battery drain. I'm getting almost same battery live with CM10 Stable, PAC-ROM, SaltyBean SE, SlimBean. Currently running SlimBean. Make sure it's not an app you install after flashing the ROM. Never restore system data from your previous ROM, just user apps + data. Look at the battery panel and you'll see what is draining your battery. Btw, clearing battery stats does nothing. You can't really calibrate the battery. Android OS will adjust battery meter automatically after 2-3 recharges.
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Yeah. I found out one prob was he was trying to charge it with just hooking it up to a pc. Know it seems back to normal since he used the wall charger, for a overnight charge
I've charged from the PC many times with decent battery life results... Don't know if that's the reason why the battery life has been cut short.
A good way to gauge what is causing the battery drain would be to do as ValD said. See what is using up the most battery life from the battery panel and try to deduce it from there.
Have you tried full wipe, re-d/l the ROM, and flashing the ROM again? Double check the md5 or sha1 code from the website when you d/l the ROM too.
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Yeah. I found out one prob was he was trying to charge it with just hooking it up to a pc. Know it seems back to normal since he used the wall charger, for a overnight charge
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yeah, some PC only provide max 100ma per port, which means ~ 15 hrs. and the cap in phone for usb is set to 350ma, or about 5 hours, unless you have kernel that supports fast usb charging.
still, if the phone was charged to 100%, it shouldn't matter whether AC charger or PC used. Was he not charging it to 100% ?
fyi, the difference to phone is that pins 2 and 3 of usb are shorted in AC charger. This causes phone to allow higher charging current, up to 900ma, or as much as battery can take without overheating.
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My G1 battery is only lasting 2 to 3 hours for some reason. it is a 1400 mAh by seidio. I am running the SuperFroyo 2.6 Lite by Superatmel. i got the battery online like 3 months ago and it was used. Any ideas or suggestions to save battery. and/or should i get a new battery? Thanks
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My G1 battery is only lasting 2 to 3 hours for some reason. it is a 1400 mAh by seidio. I am running the SuperFroyo 2.6 Lite by Superatmel. i got the battery online like 3 months ago and it was used. Any ideas or suggestions to save battery. and/or should i get a new battery? Thanks
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Try another Rom Super D v1.9.3 and SuperFast v1.3.3 are excellent Donut (1.6) ones to test your battery issue.
ok ill try out SuperD thanks
I will bet that your battery issues are not ROM-related. Being that its an after-market battery, and used, it's probably outliving its life spam. To my knowledge, batteries are meant to provide a certain number of charges, every time you plug the power cable into the phone to charge it, that constitutes for one charge. Whether its for 5 minutes, or 5 hours. They usually have a set number, somewhere around 500 charges. After that, it slowly stops holding a solid charge.
I would suggest buying a NEW battery, not used.
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I will bet that your battery issues are not ROM-related. Being that its an after-market battery, and used, it's probably outliving its life spam. To my knowledge, batteries are meant to provide a certain number of charges, every time you plug the power cable into the phone to charge it, that constitutes for one charge. Whether its for 5 minutes, or 5 hours. They usually have a set number, somewhere around 500 charges. After that, it slowly stops holding a solid charge.
I would suggest buying a NEW battery, not used.
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Youre assumption is correct, thats why I directed him to flash a Donut rom to test and see if the short battery life occurs again.
Until we hear from him we wont be 100% in our hypothesis.
Youve gotten ahead of me and commented about the battery being the culprit, damn, beat me to it. ha ha ha.
i would say its lasting longer, but only by 1 to 2 hours more. so im going to buy a new battery. thanks for the advice tho
ALSO, while downgrading to Donut, While wiping, MAKE SURE your battery is FULLY CHARGED and wipe the battery stats. Check back.
ok my battery wasnt fully charged while wiping everything and downgrading. instead of re-flashing and downgrading can i just re-calibrate my battery? sorry for the late reply
me too
same rom - same problem .
i have a genuine battery , my g1 last one hour and 12 mins with the super froyo rom.]
real shame as i love the rom .
I have that rom and it the best battery life I have found so far on this phone...
There's a thread similar to this bellow and I recommended this:
3 thinks you can do
1)check for a better rom and\or verify if your gps, wi fi and on while this happens
2)Recalibrate your battery
2A Discharge it until it shuts itself off.
2B) Recharge it back to full and then leave it charging for another few hours even after it says it is full
2C)repeat if needed
3)buy a new one...
Good luck
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I purchased the 3500 extended battery about 4 months ago. It was a great battery. It lasted me all day & then some off a single charge. Now it's not lasting as long as it used to. I'm having to charge in the middle of the day now. I put my original OEM battery in, & I'm getting better performance from it than with the 3500 battery now.
Anyone else experiencing less than stellar performance from the 3500 battery after having it for 4 months or longer?
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I purchased the 3500 extended battery about 4 months ago. It was a great battery. It lasted me all day & then some off a single charge. Now it's not lasting as long as it used to. I'm having to charge in the middle of the day now. I put my original OEM battery in, & I'm getting better performance from it than with the 3500 battery now.
Anyone else experiencing less than stellar performance from the 3500 battery after having it for 4 months or longer?
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I have the 2150 OEM, I can only suspect some reasons why
1) Cheap battery that does not hold charges well
2) You are draining the battery down to 0% a lot, killing the ability for it to keep a charge
3) Your phone is not calibrated properly so it shows it is charged to 100% but in fact it may have only charged it much lower
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I have the 2150 OEM, I can only suspect some reasons why
1) Cheap battery that does not hold charges well
2) You are draining the battery down to 0% a lot, killing the ability for it to keep a charge
3) Your phone is not calibrated properly so it shows it is charged to 100% but in fact it may have only charged it much lower
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1) It's a Seidio brand, not some knock off, so it should be of good quality. It's been working fine up until the past month or so. I've had it for over 4 months now.
2) I've never drained the battery down to 0%. Contacted Seidio and they suggested that I let it drain to 0% for the next 4 to 5 charges, along with charging it an additional 2-3 hours after a complete charge. I'll see if that helps.
3) I've always had to bump charge it. It helps in making it last longer.
I don't think bump charging is helping the longevity of your battery. Not saying it doesn't last longer on a charge, but that it isn't good for the battery's overall lifespan.
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3) I've always had to bump charge it. It helps in making it last longer.
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Draining all the way down and overcharging it are the biggest ways to kill it off. The Seideo and most other batteries I think have a fail-safe for draining it all the way down, cutting it off early before it actually does.
This article is pretty helpful about your battery, if you haven't had the chance to read it, it may benefit you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
Bump charging did it.....
Where's ma rosie at?
I have been using the 3500 for about the same length of time you have been. I haven't really noticed a drop off in performance. Maybe a very slight drop off.. not much though. Still could get 2-3 days use on one charge if I wanted to.
I have the same issue with my 3500. I will try to re-calibrate it.
4 months seems to be pretty quick for a decline in performance like that. I would press Seideo to replace it.
You can try resetting the cells to how they were when it was brand new. All you have to do is completely deplete the battery of all charge (so it wont even turn on) then short it out with 3x the voltage (a 9v battery should work, make sure to keep the polarity the same) and fully charge it again, then it will be like new!
My dad (who is an electrician) found a guide for this on ebay and bought it just for the hell of it to see if it worked. We tried it on a battery I had for an LG VX8300 I had at the time and it worked beautifully, I've been doing it ever since!
I have no idea how this works, all I know is that it just does.
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1) It's a Seidio brand, not some knock off, so it should be of good quality. It's been working fine up until the past month or so. I've had it for over 4 months now.
2) I've never drained the battery down to 0%. Contacted Seidio and they suggested that I let it drain to 0% for the next 4 to 5 charges, along with charging it an additional 2-3 hours after a complete charge. I'll see if that helps.
3) I've always had to bump charge it. It helps in making it last longer.
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When ever you get a new battery you must condition it, exactly as sedio said full charge it, then drain fully 5 times. It makes the battery last much longer
Sources: I built one for my robotics team
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I got some 3,500mAh cheapies off ebay about 6 months ago and they are holding up just fine. I always run mine down to about 5% then fully charge. I bump charge them about once a month.
Well of course... After I'm pimping how great these batteries are, one quit working! My phone would just shut off with a light tap against something so I pulled the black sticker off of the battery, pulled it all apart, found the loose connection, bent the tab to make better contact, and put it all back together. All is good again.
I recently purchased this same battery read tons of good reviews not sure how i feel about the bump charging after reading the article that was within this thread but all in all it is a giant leap beyond the stock battery now if i could just find a case that would fit around it
To the OP. If youre running a kernel with SBC (Superior battery charging [trickle charging] w/e you wanna call it) they're known to reduce your battery life. also you may wanna charge the battery to 100% then wipe the battery stats on your phone.
I have the same battery and I've found that the phone has trouble reporting the percentage correctly. It tends to make jumps of about 5-10% instead of a steady decline. I switched to the original battery and it did not have this problem. I've also noticed that clearing battery stats several times helps (most of the time). As far as bump charging goes, it's perfectly fine to bump charge these batteries. The worst thing you can do to them is discharge them all the way.
Clearing the stats and cycling the battery through the phone a few times should fix that. It does that (big percentage jumps) when it's poorly calibrated.
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Clearing the stats and cycling the battery through the phone a few times should fix that. It does that (big percentage jumps) when it's poorly calibrated.
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I second this. I have the same battery and its been off a few times. Battery stats get weird sometimes. It's certainly a better battery than the cheap Chinese batteries HTC uses.
I thought everybody should know this. Our Normal Defy should work with the 1700mAh battery with the patch provided in the Development thread.
Or you can download it here too.
1) The OEM motorola HF5X 1700mAh (SNN5890) found selling HERE
2) The Defy car dock that triggered the Cardock application found selling HERE
Do you have experiences with this OEM battery?
I came to a 1500 battery with your link...
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The official car dock can't be found in a physical store here in Greece. One can order it only by web.
new battery will not work with Defy. Due to the implementation of different technologies Li-ion -> Li-pol and different voltage! even after applying the patch, the battery will not be charged for the full
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new battery will not work with Defy. Due to the implementation of different technologies Li-ion -> Li-pol and different voltage! even after applying the patch, the battery will not be charged for the full
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I've read about this- any other reports?
Is this the 85% charged symptom?
Nice... i love it
I have motorola MB525 defy bought in September 2011. Last week, my phone battery got deep discharged and the phone won't boot even after plugging in the charger.
As the phone was under warranty, i got the battery replaced yesterday but i got HF5X 1700mAh (the one in Defy+) as replacement. The service centre guy said that it would work with my Defy.
I kept the phone on charging for more than 12 hours continuously but the battery keeps charging and battery level is not going beyond 80%.
Can you please suggest what should i do? Can your OEM patch help? If yes, how do I use it?
Just for clarity... is it that the battery IS charged but the battery indicator doesn't show this? Or is it actually NOT charging?
it is definitely better for battery life when we are charging it every time 80% instead of 100%, true and maybe this was service guy main idea..
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Just for clarity... is it that the battery IS charged but the battery indicator doesn't show this? Or is it actually NOT charging?
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I do not think that the battery charges to full as battery voltage reaches a max of 4.158 V. Whereas, as per what I've read about Defy+ battery, it needs to be charged upto 4.4 V for full charge.
Any Idea how to make it charge to full 4.4 V?
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it is definitely better for battery life when we are charging it every time 80% instead of 100%, true and maybe this was service guy main idea..
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Hey Wawroo,
I don't think the service guy was even aware that the battery would not charge to full capacity.
And btw,can u please explain how is it better to charge the battery upto 80% only and not 100%?
I disagree with the idea to be better for the battery life to charge up to 80% instead full capacity. I always charge it up to full capacity, and after 10 months my Defy spend 2 days and 10 hours to complete discharge the battery. I am using the CM7.2 with battery recalibration.
By the way, I think your software doesn't recognize the new battery capacity. You should try some battery recalibration in case you have the recovery menu.
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I disagree with the idea to be better for the battery life to charge up to 80% instead full capacity. I always charge it up to full capacity, and after 10 months my Defy spend 2 days and 10 hours to complete discharge the battery. I am using the CM7.2 with battery recalibration.
By the way, I think your software doesn't recognize the new battery capacity. You should try some battery recalibration in case you have the recovery menu.
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Thanks Cristianosite for the reply.
Can you please help me about this 'Recovery Menu'? I mean, what is this and how do I get it on my phone?
@coolravsun
Recovery menu is a tool which allow us to access some 'service' options in our device, such as flash alternatives roms, battery recalibration, wipe cache, wipe data, etc... You will find more details on Defy XDA Wiki. To get this you have to root your device. In the wiki you will find more details.
However, please pay attention to the comment of veimus.
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new battery will not work with Defy. Due to the implementation of different technologies Li-ion -> Li-pol and different voltage! even after applying the patch, the battery will not be charged for the full
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I have no much knowledge about this technologies. Maybe you should take a look on that.
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@coolravsun
Recovery menu is a tool which allow us to access some 'service' options in our device, such as flash alternatives roms, battery recalibration, wipe cache, wipe data, etc... You will find more details on Defy XDA Wiki. To get this you have to root your device. In the wiki you will find more details.
However, please pay attention to the comment of veimus.
I have no much knowledge about this technologies. Maybe you should take a look on that.
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I have my phone rooted and have got the clockworkmod recovery installed.
I just wiped all battery statistics via recovery menu and factory-reset my defy (took nandroid back-up of my phone b4 dat). And then, put my phone to charging in the switched-off state. It charged to 100% in about 2 hours. But, within 2-3 minutes of as I turned it ON, the battery dropped to 90%. I have not restored my backup yet and am planning to use the phone till it drops to 10% and then again charge it to full.
What do you suggest?
this thing is nice for me to travel! ordered 1
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I have my phone rooted and have got the clockworkmod recovery installed.
I just wiped all battery statistics via recovery menu and factory-reset my defy (took nandroid back-up of my phone b4 dat). And then, put my phone to charging in the switched-off state. It charged to 100% in about 2 hours. But, within 2-3 minutes of as I turned it ON, the battery dropped to 90%. I have not restored my backup yet and am planning to use the phone till it drops to 10% and then again charge it to full.
What do you suggest?
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Even after using this method, the battery is still charging uptill 80% and the life isn't as good as it was with my original Defy battery. Also, i tried the app 'BATTERY REPAIR' available on android market. But it didn't help either. Going to the motorola service center to get the Defy+ battery replaced.
1700mah battery working in ur defy? or u changed to 1500 one?
To solve the problem on defy with defy+ battery try flash cm9 quarx ou epsylon Defy+ rom. And DON'T apply the the battery fix patch. Since the patch was made to use in regular defy, the rom is designed to work with defy+ battery. But you can't flash it on green lens because it will brick the cam.
do any of the battery fix for cm9 work???
plz help .... don.t seem to be able to get any of it working
hey guys
in the last couple of weeks ive flashed about 5 roms which consider to be good.
i have to say I really like android but one issue keeps me frustrated
and thats battery life.
how can it be that my friends iphone battery lasts so much more then my galaxy s1?
ive gone through numeros guides decreased brightness to minimum
stopped syncing my gmail account and other stuff as well.
as time goes by im regreting not buying iphone when i had the chance
because battery is one of the most important things in a smartphone.
currently,
i am 25 years old student studying computer science in the university
which means im out most of the day.
its not that rare for me to be stuck without battery and its so frustrating.
i ask for your help please,
what is the best rom for s1 regarding battery life
and has hebrew on it?
(im from israel)
thanks alot mates!
Have you ever calibrated it after flashing?
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Have you ever calibrated it after flashing?
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yes man everytime after flashing a new rom im calibarating when reaches 100
let it drops to 0 and turn off
then charging to 100 again.
i just want my battery to last hehe
It doesn't benefit at ALL
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Dropping to 0% is the worst thing a LI-ION battery can experience.
There are some calibrations methods around, you can try some apps but I think you ROM just needs some time to calibrate the battery sign. Are you running a zillion of apps in the background?
Another option is to buy a new battery with more power. stock battery has 1500mah. but you can get a battery with 1800mah for your s1.
Did you wipe battery stats in cwm?
Disable mobile data or switch to 2G only it helps a lot. Phone will drain battery if you have a bad signal
I have to second the disable the data connection recommend. Also your battery life will get better the longer you use a rom and the more charge/discharge cycles your battery sees. To be clear that does not mean 100%-0% every time just regular charging.
I'm personally on GB and with data disconnected for most of the day and the 1800mah battery I have been on the same charge for almost a week and still have 30% left. It's truly amazing!!
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Dropping to 0% is the worst thing a LI-ION battery can experience.
There are some calibrations methods around, you can try some apps but I think you ROM just needs some time to calibrate the battery sign. Are you running a zillion of apps in the background?
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Dropping below the minimum voltage is what you're talking about, and that's not possible because of the controller on each battery. That's why the phone dies when it hits 0% (or thereabouts) even though it still has plenty of power left over to run the device. Running a full cycle on the battery will be just fine.
I am on Prime HD 8.0 and the battery life is dismal. I wiped battery stat, deleted unwanted apps but the battery life is still too bad.I changed the ROM and the problem persists. So its not a software issue. My X8 is almost two years old so I suspect its the battery. Is there any way i can check battery health? The shape of the battery hasnt changed or anything. Any opinions?
Secondly, if I do have to go in for a battery, should I get the EP500 standard 1200mah battery or the Mugen Power's 1300mah battery? Has anyone used the latter? Is the higher price I need to pay for the latter justified by better battery life?
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I am on Prime HD 8.0 and the battery life is dismal. I wiped battery stat, deleted unwanted apps but the battery life is still too bad.I changed the ROM and the problem persists. So its not a software issue. My X8 is almost two years old so I suspect its the battery. Is there any way i can check battery health? The shape of the battery hasnt changed or anything. Any opinions?
Secondly, if I do have to go in for a battery, should I get the EP500 standard 1200mah battery or the Mugen Power's 1300mah battery? Has anyone used the latter? Is the higher price I need to pay for the latter justified by better battery life?
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try to use eclair (2.1) for few days
because you are runing custom
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try to use eclair (2.1) for few days
because you are runing custom
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Dont think that'll help. After charging to 100%, the battery drops to 90% after 5 mins of use!
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Dont think that'll help. After charging to 100%, the battery drops to 90% after 5 mins of use!
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u use battery for 2 years...... new battery for shure
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Dont think that'll help. After charging to 100%, the battery drops to 90% after 5 mins of use!
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My battery does that too on custom roms (99-90% in a few mins, but it drains a whole lot less after that). And it's not even a year old. Do try to flash back to stock with minimal apps installed and check the battery drain for just 2-3 days. I do think it's the battery, but it doesn't hurt to be sure.
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my battery is one year old and it runs good. try wipe battery stats and use stock eclair for a few days. and make sure you dischard it to 0% ( you can even power on your phone) than charge it to 100% on stock eclair. make sure you have turned gps off and use 2G networks if you you dont use mobile data. ---- but I think you know that already. configure wifi sleep policy, brightness, turn off unnecesary apps etc.
If you have battery for cca. 2years. - its very possible that you need to change it. And I think you should but first try whats mentioned above
Battery draining from 100% to 90% fast is normal. Just FYI
RohinZaraki said:
Battery draining from 100% to 90% fast is normal. Just FYI
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Not in 1-2 mins