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Okay here is my problem, the screen on my nexus one cracked (on the inside under the glass) twice in a span of 6 months and HTC is trying to make me pay to fix it. There is *absolutely nothing* that I can think of that can even possibly cause the screen to break. It cracked twice at approx. the same place near the TOP of the screen. I've been using cellphones for the past 13yrs, had 2 iPhones and none of them broke like this. Very bitter taste in my mouth after using the Android and HTC platform for the first time. As it stands right now, I would rather have an iPhone4 with a defective antenna than to have choosen Google and HTC.
So here is my question: How many people are having the same problem? If you see my same question in other forums, please don't answer twice. I am a real user, a real person. After people start responding, I'm going to forward my threads to the reporter at cnet that had the same problem to hopefully have Google recognize this issue.
*If you DO NOT have this problem, but have an opinion to post, I deeply appreciate your opinion, but please don't do it here. This is strictly to see how often this is happening to N1 users.*
i cracked my screen but i dropped it on concrete a couple times so i can not blame google/htc for that.
however since I am rooted and my warranty is already void I plan to change the screen out myself when the new digitizer comes in.
Here is a link to buy the digitizer:
http://www.repairsuniverse.com/google-nexus-one-touch-screen-digitizer-replacement.html
And here is a link of a tutorial on how to fix it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTRXSMQ-GJY
Dont be scared that its 45 parts, they are very short each.
BTW if you know your thread is a question and even label it as such, dont you think this belongs in the Q&A thread?
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So here is my question: How many people are having the same problem?
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Is the answer 1 in 1000?
Im not having a problem. Maybe its cos im not so heavy handed with my belongings?
Doesn't the nexus one have gorilla glass? Should be very hard to crack
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Doesn't the nexus one have gorilla glass? Should be very hard to crack
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No, it's a polycarb, but not Gorilla. Also the OP described the display cracking, not the digitizer (glass on the outside).
I have owned my N1 for 6 months now. My screen has never cracked and it remains in my pocket most of the day. Including at work where I go back and forth from coolers to hot grills constantly.
I understand you don't want people to reply if their screen didn't crack, but you can't get a fair judgement of how often this happens if only people with cracked screens can reply.
Heres my update: After numerous emails and phones calls back and forth, HTC finally agreed to fix my phone free of charge.
My advice for ppl having the same problem: Be honest, tell them what happened. Stay firm but respectful. Make sure they understand your dismay, but do not make it personal - the person on the other line is just following company guidelines and doing their jobs.
I dont know what did it, cause first I was offered 20% off then 50% off the repair costs (which I still think is bullsh!t, if the customer is at fault, then he/she should pay full to get repairs, if the device is bad, then HTC should fix it for free to boot, not offering "discounts"). But the last message I sent to HTC before getting the free repair offer was I quoted the CNET reporter that had hers replaced for free as well.
My experience with their customer service? Seeing as how I finally got justice in the end, I'm a lot happier than I could be. But the process is far, farrr from easy and what it should be.
And if anyone is wondering, I'm selling my N1 as soon as I get it back. Cause from my experience, the hardware design is clearly faulty. If it can break once and twice, there is no doubt in my mind that it will break a third time.
Weird that the OP is the only one reporting a cracked screen twice, when it's even rare to hear a screen cracked once. Unless you drop the N1 numerous times that is. Now i'm curious how the OP handles his N1.
Oh you know he keeps it in his skin tight pants pocket with his keys.
Just joking, I honestly don't know. I've scratched my screen (small scratches only noticeable when screen is black) but I've drooped it a few times and keep it my NWU (think cammo) pants pocket and no breakage yet.
I don't think the AMOLED will just crack from usage...
I cracked mine, but I dropped it on concrete face down. It was a sad day.
I'm not C.Ronaldo, and I dont wear tight jeans. I work in a bank and wear trousers with loose pockets. I keep my keys and change in my attache. If you dont think this is happening, do a google search for "nexus one cracked screens". Maybe this is restricted to the first few batches made, cause I ordered mine the day it was available. I honestly have no idea.
But if you are a N1 owner, and you're thinking that this "doesn't happen" - good luck with that, and I hope you will find my post useful when the time comes.
First post, hello everyone.
I've dropped my N1 from about 10 ft in the air, whilst ghost riding my SUV. The top right corner is where contact was made with the asphalt. It came to rest face up. The only damage was a bit of a nick out of the metal where first contact was made. Thank god.
People, there is a piece of outer glass, called the digitizer. It's what you touch, it's the outermost later. It is both protection for the actual screen and the digitizer.
There is an inner layer which is the actual AMOLED screen.
Be clear what what's breaking. Is it broken on the OUTSIDE? Digitizer. Is it NOT broken on the outside but the screen "looks broken", is "bleeding" etc? Screen.
Too much nonsense going back and forth.. Particularly "I dropped it, glass broke, HTC sux" stuff.
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I'm not C.Ronaldo, and I dont wear tight jeans. I work in a bank and wear trousers with loose pockets. I keep my keys and change in my attache. If you dont think this is happening, do a google search for "nexus one cracked screens". Maybe this is restricted to the first few batches made, cause I ordered mine the day it was available. I honestly have no idea.
But if you are a N1 owner, and you're thinking that this "doesn't happen" - good luck with that, and I hope you will find my post useful when the time comes.
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It was a joke. I know it sucks for you but a vast majority of N1 owners don't have cracked screen which leads a reasonable person to ask first what the few with broken screens are doing different, if there is an environmental factor (heat change, humidity, etc.) Or in other words what is the common factor.
LoL! Maybe you're butt-uuuggggllllyyyy! LoL! J/K Glad you got a free replacement!
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First post, hello everyone.
I've dropped my N1 from about 10 ft in the air, whilst ghost riding my SUV. The top right corner is where contact was made with the asphalt. It came to rest face up. The only damage was a bit of a nick out of the metal where first contact was made. Thank god.
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1. You're an idiot.
2. I dropped mine from chest height onto tarmac in a carpark, the top left corner took the brunt of it (was in the sleeve at the time, so bad luck) and it came away with a pretty small nick in the metal housing.
It now lives in a Tough Case.
Hello. I bought a galaxy note on 28th november. After only 2 weeks of absolutely normal and careful use, my screen is scratched and broken. Ok, it is a small crack, but it is not good.
It never fell and it never hit anything. After only 2 days, i noticed some scratchs and some other came in the days after. Then, the part of the screen between the upper edge and the speaker broke in two, with a crack (small, 5mm but still a crack) going from the edge to the speaker. I can't post a photo as i sent it back to samsung for repairs (it had also display issues). Do you know a reason for it? It should be gorilla glass, and i only kept it in my pockets without anything inside apart the smartphone. Do you think samsung will repair it since it happened during normal use after ONLY 2 weeks? I'm really annoyed and disappointed.
Anyone experiencing glass resistance issues?
Thanks
Call samsung and send it in they will fix it..
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Yes, i did it and i'm waiting, and i also adressed the lines issue and the green/banded screen, but i am in italy and i'm not sure if it is covered by warranty, it should: they can say i broke it.
The Corning Gorilla Glass was one reason I went with the SGS2.
The other reason was fear of provoking the wrath of God for having such a sensationally beautiful device (the Note). It's an awesome device, really.
But God smote those who worshiped a golden calf, too.
lol Sorry, I'm not really a religious fanatic. But yeah, sucks about your screen. Hope Sammy fixes that one up for you.
Welcome Nickelsilver and please don't take this personally and in NO way I'm defending Samsung or the Note but I have to say the neither scratches or dents/cracks come by their own.
They just don't happen/appear magically by themselves on the phone's screen/body. Maybe someone is messing with you Note without you knowing it?
E.g: I have 1mm small and barely noticeable scratch on the top left corner which I suspect it came from the ONLY 1 time my Note slipped from the passenger's seat and fell in the gap between the passenger's door/seat.
I went through 3 screens on my dell streak. Now that I have the note which is even bigger I was so cautious I treated it like a delicate fragile little flower. Needless to say after 2 weeks I noticed what appeared to be a scratch going up from the bottom middle halfway up. Turns out this is not a magical scratch that sprang out of nowhere but an actual crack on the outer glass screen. I have never dropped it but perhaps it was somehow flexed.
No warranty of course. I have ordered the glass itself from overseas and when it gets here in a month I suppose I will try replacing that piece individually as its only the outer glass that seems cracked. Hopefully they do not glue the screens together like they did in the streak ><
Another boring witch hunt thread (yawn)
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Another boring witch hunt thread (yawn)
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To OP: im sorry to hear that....hope samsung can fix it for you quick.
Ps. Dont listen and worry about this guy...he thinks only his opinions are important and others experiences are just JUNKS and BORING! Not sure why he would even bother to reply, if they really bores him that much. Maybe he really thinks that he BOOFY the witch hunter or something
Plus.. He forgot that he has also once posted a question regarding to his screen problem too here on the forum.
Gorilla glass is bull****. I had dell 5 streak, and I changed the screen more than 5 times. Little drop will result in screen loss. Do not depend on gorilla glass.
My Samsung Galaxy Note are broke
Yesterday I was knocked out of the hands under my 40 days old Samsung Galaxy Note, the cover glass is cracked along its entire length as a spider's web, while the LCD screen is not damaged, that still works, receiving the touch command. The solution I found in the orders of the new protective glass over eBay. Maybe that was too much angry because it happened to me, but NOTE is too amazing, and I somehow survive.. I'll let it be when we come new safety glass
I do not think this is a witch hunt. More of an informative thread on one weakness to an otherwise amazing device. It may be that until an indestructive clear glass is created that we will continually face this on any large phone. Anything this large will flex easily and likely crack. One thing Samsung definately did right was not glue the glass to the LCD behind it. I put a clear screen cover over mine and you cant even see the crack anymore. Were this a dell streak you would have half of your screen blacked out.
This is definitely the best mobile device out there in my opinion, people should just be extremely cautious with where they carry it. Mine most likely cracked in my pocket from slight flexing.
The glass on the note shouldn't break even when flexed unless it's not Gorilla glass.
Gorilla glass is not only scratch resistant,it is also shatter resistant.
If the glass is breaking frequently on the notes,then I wonder if they really have Gorilla glass.
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The glass on the note shouldn't break even when flexed unless it's not Gorilla glass.
Gorilla glass is not only scratch resistant,it is also shatter resistant.
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Not proof.
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Not proof.
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I know this is not 100% proof but look at this demonstration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYaQnvVwStc&feature=player_embedded#!
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I know this is not 100% proof but look at this demonstration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYaQnvVwStc&feature=player_embedded#!
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That demonstration glass at the beginning of the video is about 3 times thicker than what Samsung uses on the Note/Galaxy S2/Galaxy S SAMOLED panels. And it's quite a bit smaller, height/width wise (it's about iPhone 4 sized).
Thickness makes a significant difference in flexibility and shatter resistance. Which is off on a tangent, because the main reason Samsung and others uses GG and similar techniques is not for shatter resistance.
It's almost entirely for the combination of higher scratch resistance vs metals (all bets are off with sand particles) and a better tactile feel (it's smoother) than non-treated glass.
Sure it may not be as thick on the note but you are never going to flex the phone anywhere as much as that demonstration.
My point is that if it is gorilla glass,it shouldn't be that easy to crack the screen given the abuse that it is supposed to be able to take.
All these? Gorilla Glass
And all these? Gorilla Glass
How about all these? Gorilla Glass
Or maybe all these? Gorilla Glass
It's been 10 days since i bought "the Note". I dropped the device just once from 1 meter height. It was a free fall with not much impact power. The screen has a crack on the upper right corner. I know every product is meant to last but so easy , so fast ! ??? Thankfully it still works with no functional issues. It's just the protective glass on top of the actual LCD that is broken. But u can still feel it while wiping your finger and it is appearent...
Hardware wise The Note is simply outragous but when it comes to software and durability it can't even come closer to what i used to find on HTC devices
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It's been 10 days since i bought "the Note". I dropped the device just once from 1 meter height. It was a free fall with not much impact power. The screen has a crack on the upper right corner. I know every product is meant to last but so easy , so fast ! ??? Thankfully it still works with no functional issues. It's just the protective glass on top of the actual LCD that is broken. But u can still feel it while wiping your finger and it is appearent...
Hardware wise The Note is simply outragous but when it comes to software and durability it can't even come closer to what i used to find on HTC devices
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The weight of the note will count against it during falls compared to say a very light phone like the SG2.Impact is going to be much harder if they both fell from the same height especially given te size of the notes screen.
Until they can make the note lighter,users will just have to be more careful not to drop it.Gorilla glass is not unbreakable.
I get my note tomorrow. Now I'm all paranoid
I saw multiple threads on this forum about people reporting issues about this phone screen including cracks and scratches and even breaking my question is is this true although the phone screen should have Gorilla glass ? And do I need to put on screen protector ?
Thanks in advance and hoping someone should answer me.
check the Corning's website, in the products section, for HTC phones, and you'll see that it's not listed there... neither Sensation XL, nor Sensation XE, only the regular Sensation...
also, I've talked to a guy from HTC support (Romania), and he confirmed that the Sensation XL does not come with Gorilla Glass, unfortunately...
some users say they don't use any screen protection, and they didn't get any scratches, others say they did... so, maybe some of them have, others don't...I think you should consider buying a screen protector...
I'm buying this phone in a few days, and, even though I'd really like to use the phone as it is (no case/screen protector), for the money I'm paying for it, I though it's best to get a case and a screen protector... at least for a while...
but how can this happen? such a unique phone doesn't have gorilla glass inspite other earlier phones have it.and regarding the gorilla website ,if you check that list you will see that some recent phones aren't listed as well like htc titan and htc one.Iam really confused.
IT DOES HAVE GORILLA GLASS, I HAVE MY PHONE ( XL ) FOR A FEW MONTHS AND I HAVE NO SCRATCHES ON IT, OR ANY KIND OF DAMAGES. AND FOR THE MOST PART I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROTECTIVE CASE, AND I NEVER USED SCREEN PROTECTOR. AND FOR THOSE PEOPLES THAT HAVE PROBLEMS ,THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T TAKE ANY CARE FOR THEIR PHONES, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOME HANDFUL OF PEOPLES THAT WOULD COMPLAIN OVER THE QUALITY OF THEIR PHONE SCREENS
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IT DOES HAVE GORILLA GLASS, I HAVE MY PHONE ( XL ) FOR A FEW MONTHS AND I HAVE NO SCRATCHES ON IT, OR ANY KIND OF DAMAGES. AND FOR THE MOST PART I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROTECTIVE CASE, AND I NEVER USED SCREEN PROTECTOR. AND FOR THOSE PEOPLES THAT HAVE PROBLEMS ,THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T TAKE ANY CARE FOR THEIR PHONES, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOME HANDFUL OF PEOPLES THAT WOULD COMPLAIN OVER THE QUALITY OF THEIR PHONE SCREENS
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Dude, check out the thread i started. I have alot of issues with the screen but i take really good care of my phone. I have a big scratch at the top of my phone, which probably got there cause the screen couldnt handle the difference in temperature of warm pockets and cold winter air.
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My phohe was experiencing cold many times this winter -18 ( Celsius ) at a time even -20 C, and even heat,and i have no scratches .I never heard that scratch would appear because of a cold weather. That is really silly
Not sure on the gorilla glass, but I have mine in the pocket without a case, and with my keys in, I used to worry, not anymore!
Not like my Desire-z that screen used to scratch if you had a bit of sand on your finger
I asked a htc rep at work at work and as expected the phone doen't have it. As proof my friend dropped mine today and its now cracked. Luckily I'm not paying for the repair
Dont know how people using their devices, but i carry it in my pocket without any protection (except at work is somethimes in leather case cause of difficult conditions) and it have no scratches.
Even on ace after 1 year of usage there is no a single scratch.
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Well a long time ago i have spoken with a HTC customer care and they told me that there isn't GG on XL.
I do not use any kind of protectors or else. Go to the gym, work, throw it at my place everywhere and didn't get any scratches.
I am not a fan from screen protectors and would rather not to use one. Because most of them are made somewhere in some asian garage and we don't know what material did they use. If i scratch it one day i will replace the whole front glass with another. I am not used to serve the tech....the tech must serve me
Does it even matter if the SXL has gorilla glass or not? My Desire HD had gorilla glass and i put a big scratch on the screen when it fell off my bed (No lie). It's not all it's cracked up to be. Normal mineral glass is just as good IMO.
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Does it even matter if the SXL has gorilla glass or not? My Desire HD had gorilla glass and i put a big scratch on the screen when it fell off my bed (No lie). It's not all it's cracked up to be. Normal mineral glass is just as good IMO.
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I signed under this, you should be a bit more carefully with device guys
For all with large scratches on the touch screen/broken screen,...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digitizer-T...487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c2ff054f
hi folks. i managed to replace my galaxy note front glass with a new one i got from ebay for 19$ and i want to make a step by step guide on how it can be done.
i did it using common tools and a s load of pacience and attention.
the tools i used are: heat gun with hi and low settings, exacto knife set,small phillips and flat screwdrivers, goo gone, and optional a screen protector.
first take the phone apart as it's describet in countless of threads and youtube videos. you should end up with the screen assembly shown in the first picture.
now we have to separate the glassscreen from the frame it sits on. for this we fire up the heat gun.
a few words about using the heat gun.
-my gun had 2 settings: low and high. during all this process i used it on low.
-don't put the gun directly and/or close to the thinn plastic wires that hold the two connectors.
- dont hold the gun in the same place more than 3 seconds, instead swipe the gun around the spot and the screen like u would do with a paint brush when painting.
- dont hold the gun too close, that is closer than 3 inch
-concentrate on the spot u working at but try to heat up the whole screen assembly, as it has to give away from all the points kind of at the same time, and not just the point u working at.
- dont overheat the screen as this will damage the amoled. thats how i got the two yellow spots on my screen. first one by accident and second one intentionaly to see if indeed the overheating is what caused it.
A very good rule for this is dont heat the phone more than you can bear to touch it cause afterall you have to hold the phone while working on it...
the way i did it is :
-i heated up the whole screen assembly, back and front, for a minute or two
- than i started to stick the tip of the exacto knife between the glass and the metal edge that sorrounds it. i started from the upper right corner, the side where the front camera is. see photo 2.
the goal is to unstick the glass from the frame. in photo 3 the frame and the screen is shown without the upper glass. this photo was taken after i finished everything, thats why the screen can be seen inside the frame. but i posted it to show the black sticky tape that its used to hold the glass to the frame. i think is the same kind of sticky tape thats used in all the touchphones including iphone to hold the front glass to the rest of the phone. in photo 4 i unsticked some of the tape to show it better. this tape is the main thing that holds the the glass to the frame. the other thing that hold the screen to the frame is some sticky glue on the back of the screen. but this is much softer and thiner glue. this is the reason why i say to heat up the whole screen assemby including the backside, to make it easyer to unstuck the glass and scren thats glued to it.
- once you get a bit of a foothold in the upper corner between and the glassand the frame you continue the folowing procedure again and again until the glass and screen detaches from the frame:
-every 2 minutes or so , when i feel the asemby cooled down, i'd heat up the whole assembly for 5 seconds or so, than concentrate on the spot i worked on for another 5 seconds, than move/push the exacto knife a bit. dont force it. after a while youl get a feel of it. if the exacto knife happend to be out, i would heat up the blade after heating up everything else, and than put the blade in.
prevent the freed parts from sticking back to the frame by using the rest of the exacto knife blades as shims.
once it detaches it should look like photo 5- the glass glued to the screen.
- now we have to detach or unglue the glass from the screen.
procedure is the same: start somewhere, heat, put knife in, etc... i used a second knife as shim folowing the first knife, and after avery couple moves i would get the knife out and wipe off the epoxy glue. heat the blade and put it back in.
when finished you should have something like photo 6 and 7: free screen covered in glue epoxy residue.
- now we have to get rid of the glue residue. i took the bulk of it usinga flat exacto knife blades like the one in photo 8 and 10. just warm the place a bit with the air gun and scrape it off with the blade. to clean what was left i used a bit of goo gone on a pice of cloth or napkin photo 9.
cleaned screen can be seen in photo 11 - sadly out of focus.
if u are like me and r impatient to test the screen you can just connect with just the side connector like in photo 12 and 13. the upper connector is for the s pen digitizer. side connector is for the screen and touch digitizer.
now all that's left is to put the phone back together except leave the new glass for last.
-first thing is to put the screen(without the glass) back on the frame. try to center it just right, so that ther's a little bit of space between the sides of the screen and the frame.
at this point all that will hold the screen to the frameis the thin layer of glue on the back of the screen. after centering and lowering the screen in the frame procede to put the phone back together folowing in reverse order the same steps used to disasambe it. when finished you should end up with the whole functioning phone except the front glass -as seen in photo 14.
now you can chose to trim and put a screen protector on the scree so as to fill the empty space between the screen and the glass - the space where the glue was, or you can just leave it empty. you can put a screen protector anytime after by removing the glass. which should be much easier to remove now that its held in place only by the blach sticky tape on the edges. just use some suction cap to remove it, starting at an age, and remove it like fliping a page. see photo 16. i used the note for 2 weeks without the screen protector in the empty space and it worked without a problem onlt thing was that when i pushed hard the glass would touch the screen and leave a bit of dirt in that place. thats why i decided to put the screen protector to fill the void. in photo 15 i raised the screen protector to make it visible in the photo.
if you are like me and worry that somehow the glass might fall off the phone you can always get a hard plastic case for the phone, like the one in the pics. it's made of 2 parts. one goes on the back one on the front and they snap togeter around the phone. this will hold the glass in place no matter what while it will also protect the phone.the case is in photos 17 and 18. i got this one of ebay for 8$ and free shipping.
the last thing to be done is:
for some reaseon the touch screen became much more sensitive after removing the glue so you need to lover the touch sensitivity. for this get the touchscreentune app from the market. it works with galaxy note and galaxy s2. put the sensitivity from the recomended 25 to 50.
the best thing about this procedure is that i dont have to worry about the f ing glass anymore. if it brakes again i'l just order another one and in under 2 minutes i can replace it. all i have to do is get the phone case off, put a suction cap on , , remove the old glass , and put the new glass. that's it.
because it takes 4 to 8 hours i would recommend the process to be done in 3-4 sessions as people would get tired after 2 hours of work and tend to lose focus, attention, patience and start to push to get it faster done, and that's when bad stuff happens like yellow spot burn on the screen or small scratches. another thing about scratches, even if u manage to scrach the screen dont worry to much as the scratches are almost invisible when the screen turns on. youl see what i mean ....
i do have one question: WHY DID SAMSUNG DECIDE TO GLUE THE SCREEN TO THE GLASS INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM SEPARATE LIKE ALL THE OTHER TOUCHPHONES?
I do the same for Galaxy S. I removed broken pieces of glass from device using guitar pick and carefully glued a new glass on each side. 9$ (free delivery) on ebay.
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anonymous572 said:
I do the same for Galaxy S. I removed broken pieces of glass from device using guitar pick and carefully glued a new glass on each side. 9$ (free delivery) on ebay.
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what kind of glue did you use? where did u get the glue from? how did u do it?
i didnt glue the glass back to the screen. i just put the glass on the frame. to fill the void where the glue was i trimed a regular screen protector and put it inbetween the glass and the screen. but it works same without it.
Very interesting, I didn't think it was possible because the glass is glued to the SAMOLED panel. I'm very glad that I am wrong.
As much as I hate to think about it, a guide like that would probably come in handy for many of us at some point.
*knocks on wood*
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Very interesting, I didn't think it was possible because the glass is glued to the SAMOLED panel. I'm very glad that I am wrong.
As much as I hate to think about it, a guide like that would probably come in handy for many of us at some point.
*knocks on wood*
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Nothing is impossible with the right tool and know-how . The glue could probably be uncured with a heat gun, just like ipad. The challenge is not damage the panel and make sure it is dust free after put back the replacement.
It is said impossible because of the difficulty involved. If you can't manage to install a screen protector with perfect alignment and zero dust spike, this task is not for you.
@drevilatwork Thank you for writing this step by step guide!
I dropped my phone last night and it landed face down, cracking the glass.
I'm so upset, but I don't think I have the skills or the tools to do this job myself. I am relieved to learn that the glass can be replaced, but do you know whether the Samsung agents are likely to be able to do this?
they probably wont do it. but you can try showing this thread to some technician or phone repair shop and they might do it for you. they also might charge you a lot to the point where it might be more convenient to just buy a new 260$ screen.
looks scary dude
all im going to say is good luck separating the 2 screens without breaking the lcd or scratching the crap out of it ... this is a 90% epic fail method but thumbs up to the few that may succeed or dont mind their screen looking like its been belt sanded...
Its worth a try, since screen replacement costs 230 euros.
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all im going to say is good luck separating the 2 screens without breaking the lcd or scratching the crap out of it ... this is a 90% epic fail method but thumbs up to the few that may succeed or dont mind their screen looking like its been belt sanded...
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actually .. the funny thing is that even if u manage to screch the screen and / or leave dirt behind it doesn't show while the phone is on. it might show when is off but not when is on. i was suprised about that too. and secondly, having to do it again knowing what i know now i would do it without leaving a mark. and in the end is certenly worth a shot before ordering the 260$ screen assembly. the special thing that it requires is pacience and attention.
Why different prices for all the same lenses in this shop ?
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actually .. the funny thing is that even if u manage to screch the screen and / or leave dirt behind it doesn't show while the phone is on. it might show when is off but not when is on. i was suprised about that too. and secondly, having to do it again knowing what i know now i would do it without leaving a mark. and in the end is certenly worth a shot before ordering the 260$ screen assembly. the special thing that it requires is pacience and attention.
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as i said good luck with it and hope you make some money doing it..... ive successfully done the same thing myself but other than it will never look good like a factory screen (not even close), the amount of time it takes to make it look anywhere near acceptable (not like a 10 dollar repair) is big and that makes the repair not really worthwhile doing it for anyone but yourself and even then who spends 700-800 dollars on something and does a repair that makes it look cheap... then theres the whole ordeal of the membrane youre taking the adhesive off of along with the HUGE chance of damaging it.. it is placed with precision and adhered for a reason along with being dust and scratch free... this is a repair that just wont last because things will start functioning improperly for multiple reasons...
im not knocking you or anyone who tries this..im just trying to emphasize the dangers, downfalls and the probability of it being a legit solid repair. also the resale value when the next greatest thing comes along... just beware....
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Well chaps I hate to disagree here, but after speaking to the technical bods at Samsung it appears that the OLED is NOT glued to the glass, but the glass is laminated and bonded in, much like a car windscreen. My screen got broken the other day and I have read the 2 posts on XDA regarding this. Now if you go and have a look at the pics of the other post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487716
you can clearly see the OLED, although broken, seperated from the glass with no sign of any glue. The reason it broke is that upon heating the glass you will melt the glue, which will then stick to the edges of the OLED and if you pry it at the wrong place/time/too hard/whatever you will break the OLED as it is glued to the bezel itself. So when my glass arrives I am going to attempt to remove the glass using fishing line and pulling it between the glass and the bezel and OLED to release it, the same way as I used to remove car windscreens, and post the results here. I have also been told that the reason for the sticky "epoxy" mess that you encountered in this postis from melting the plastic on the back of the glass (which is the lamination!) by using too much heat.....I mean come on, a heat gun is a bit excessive!! Prying the screen out a bit at a time might work, but will surely end in tears, where as cutting the cold adhesive with a fine nylon cable, which wont scratch the OLED, might just work. I'll keep you posted on my results.
Just throwing an idea out there: maybe the adhesive would be easier to defeat when it's really cold, rather than really hot. I know a lot of adhesives become quite brittle when you put them in the freezer, superglue and epoxy for example. And the electronics/plastics of the display could be relatively fine with the low temps.
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Just throwing an idea out there: maybe the adhesive would be easier to defeat when it's really cold, rather than really hot. I know a lot of adhesives become quite brittle when you put them in the freezer, superglue and epoxy for example. And the electronics/plastics of the display could be relatively fine with the low temps.
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this is not one of them...i can guarantee this 100%
learn how a digitizer is made then you might see the light, and not just the light of white trash repair and failure...
ive explained it in great detail many times... and btw just because im a girl doesnt mean what im saying is wrong... 20+ years in the industry gives me sort of a clue as to what im saying..
im trying to help people avoid a long drawn out disaster and to waste $20(which is NOT gorilla glass) plus all of the other things they buy to try to make this a success which will never happen...
and fyi freezers, superglue and epoxys are big no no's...they are not used by any factory so there is another myth busted... they will just add to the destruction... 100% guarantee
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this is not one of them...i can guarantee this 100%
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What do you mean? One of what?
learn how a digitizer is made then you might see the light, and not just the light of white trash repair and failure...
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I know how a digitizer is made.
ive explained it in great detail many times... and btw just because im a girl doesnt mean what im saying is wrong... 20+ years in the industry gives me sort of a clue as to what im saying..
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I had no idea you were a girl and I don't see why that matters. Experience is the industry is of course relevant, if your particular field in the industry was related to repairs. But I don't know if it is?
im trying to help people avoid a long drawn out disaster and to waste $20(which is NOT gorilla glass) plus all of the other things they buy to try to make this a success which will never happen...
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The glass on the Note is Gorilla glass: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
and fyi freezers, superglue and epoxys are big no no's...they are not used by any factory so there is another myth busted... they will just add to the destruction... 100% guarantee
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I didn't say factories use superglue or epoxy, or freezers for that matter. But the fact that factories don't use them doesn't mean it can't work for DIY repairs. Low temperature brittleness isn't exclusive to epoxy or superglue. Many, many glues (and other materials) have that property.
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What do you mean? One of what?
I know how a digitizer is made.
I had no idea you were a girl and I don't see why that matters. Experience is the industry is of course relevant, if your particular field in the industry was related to repairs. But I don't know if it is?
The glass on the Note is Gorilla glass: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
I didn't say factories use superglue or epoxy, or freezers for that matter. But the fact that factories don't use them doesn't mean it can't work for DIY repairs. Low temperature brittleness isn't exclusive to epoxy or superglue. Many, many glues (and other materials) have that property.
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i mean exactly what i wrote... as per your idea... this wasnt one that would work... my god man do i have to spell everything out for you???
obviously you dont know how a digitizer is made or you wouldnt have spouted the crap you have... bottom line
the girl part..well some dont think women know anything..its a culture thing.. but as for you not knowing if my particular field in the industry was related to repairs my god ive only said it multiple times in multiple posts... but since you dont like to read i'll say it again..20+ years board level factory trained.. motorola, audiovox, nokia, samsung... and this is a samsung forum so i think i have my tech qualifications covered here... again READING IS GOOD... work on that...
again you just dont read or have horrible comprehension because i never said the notes screen wasnt gorilla glass i said the $19 one wasnt... seriously every time you type something you dig yourself a deeper hole...
your superglue and epoxy blather just shows you dont have a clue and dont read... really they dont have any place in the screen/lcd part of diy.. its just trouble looking for a place to happen... now if the plastic housing needs repaired maybe but still not a top ten choice... if you had a clue you would know the proper adhesive to use... and its easily found... you are just too much...
seriously...just give it a rest... i wasnt bashing on you and have said it ive also said all im trying to do is help people not make a bad decision... and THIS IS A BAD DECISION...
you want me to play nice (which i really am..most other forums here would have totally lowered the boom on you for spouting crap... ive been really nice.. to keep it that way just go post somewhere where you can be productive... here youre not... im sure you have some great ideas but nothing you have said in this thread is remotely good.. sorry but it is what it is...
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i mean exactly what i wrote... as per your idea... this wasnt one that would work... my god man do i have to spell everything out for you???
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The sentence made no sense considering what it was replying to. Not my fault you were unclear/ambiguous.
obviously you dont know how a digitizer is made or you wouldnt have spouted the crap you have... bottom line
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Ok?
the girl part..well some dont think women know anything..its a culture thing.. but as for you not knowing if my particular field in the industry was related to repairs my god ive only said it multiple times in multiple posts... but since you dont like to read i'll say it again..20+ years board level factory trained.. motorola, audiovox, nokia, samsung... and this is a samsung forum so i think i have my tech qualifications covered here... again READING IS GOOD... work on that...
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Reading is very good, but you can't assume everyone in a public forum has read every single post of yours and remembers every detail. What isn't helping is the lack of proper punctuation and formatting which make your posts unpleasant to read.
again you just dont read or have horrible comprehension because i never said the notes screen wasnt gorilla glass i said the $19 one wasnt... seriously every time you type something you dig yourself a deeper hole...
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Replacement screens are generally OEM parts.
It might appear I'm in a hole, but that's only because I live in Holland and am below sea level. I assure you I haven't done any digging.
your superglue and epoxy blather just shows you dont have a clue and dont read... really they dont have any place in the screen/lcd part of diy.. its just trouble looking for a place to happen... now if the plastic housing needs repaired maybe but still not a top ten choice... if you had a clue you would know the proper adhesive to use... and its easily found... you are just too much...
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I wasn't suggesting to use superglue or epoxy, read it again.
seriously...just give it a rest... i wasnt bashing on you and have said it ive also said all im trying to do is help people not make a bad decision... and THIS IS A BAD DECISION
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I get that, and appreciate your concern. However, you should understand that some people like to try things even when the chance of success is not very high. You seem to be one of us in that regard (you attempted repairs yourself too, right?), so I don't see why it upsets you so much.
you want me to play nice (which i really am..most other forums here would have totally lowered the boom on you for spouting crap... ive been really nice.. to keep it that way just go post somewhere where you can be productive... here youre not... im sure you have some great ideas but nothing you have said in this thread is remotely good.. sorry but it is what it is...
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I don't care if you play nice or not. I appreciate honesty. Now for some honesty in return: you're not helping in this thread.
All you do is say people's ideas are stupid without giving arguments that aren't arguments from authority. And I would very much appreciate it if you would stop misrepresenting my posts (intentional or not).
I recently crack my screen on my OP3t... Save the first couple incidents, I found that ordering the parts and doing the labor myself saved a lot of money, It also was kind of fun (yea I am one of those guys). Anyway, Before doing any research what so ever on the tear down and repair I ordered an OEM original piece of glass considering that both the digitializer and LCD were both working well. My confidence rapidly depleted when I started the research and came to the conclusion that this particular repair was beyond my pay grade. I reached out to OnePlus and astonishingly they only charged around $65 USD for the parts, labor and shipping. Which is very reasonable considering that I couldn't find a display assembly for less the a hundred dollars. While my phone was still being repaired the glass I ordered arrived and I was blown away about the quality of glass. So my question is... would I be able to use the replacement glass in place of a tempered glass screen protector? With the glass they send both UV Loca Glue and Mini tools and an UV flashlight to activate the glue that from what I've read dries completely clear.. My fears about this are would it decrease the touch sensitivity of my phone and if no how would I apply the glue. IE. All over the glass or around the corners.... I obviously have no idea but I do know that if this is possible I would be ecstatic! thank you for your time and look forward to hearing the response.. Randy
I would not recommend using the LOCA for this at least. It'll be a true pain in the ass to remove if/when that time comes. If anything I'd try using an OCA film, if you can get your hands on one that fits.
Well, that could actually make some sense
As for the glue, that could actually be the trickiest bit.
Most of the bi adhesive strips would actually be too thick. And permanent glue could be a pain in the arse to remove.
Not sure the LOCA glue would actually work, as you'd need to only glue the two white/black bands on above and below the screen area so the UV wouldn't really get there.
Maybe a few drops of Loctite? That could be enough to keep it in place.
If you fancy giving it a try let us know how it works, finding a proper tempered glass screen protector proved to be quite "challenging"
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I recently crack my screen on my OP3t... Save the first couple incidents, I found that ordering the parts and doing the labor myself saved a lot of money, It also was kind of fun (yea I am one of those guys). Anyway, Before doing any research what so ever on the tear down and repair I ordered an OEM original piece of glass considering that both the digitializer and LCD were both working well. My confidence rapidly depleted when I started the research and came to the conclusion that this particular repair was beyond my pay grade. I reached out to OnePlus and astonishingly they only charged around $65 USD for the parts, labor and shipping. Which is very reasonable considering that I couldn't find a display assembly for less the a hundred dollars. While my phone was still being repaired the glass I ordered arrived and I was blown away about the quality of glass. So my question is... would I be able to use the replacement glass in place of a tempered glass screen protector? With the glass they send both UV Loca Glue and Mini tools and an UV flashlight to activate the glue that from what I've read dries completely clear.. My fears about this are would it decrease the touch sensitivity of my phone and if no how would I apply the glue. IE. All over the glass or around the corners.... I obviously have no idea but I do know that if this is possible I would be ecstatic! thank you for your time and look forward to hearing the response.. Randy
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Use ALTECO or Super Glue on top and bottom plus a bit on both sides. :silly:
Mission OEM GLASS ABORT
Quick update... The day after I made this thread my 3 year old daughter was running to me estaticly because she took a sh!t in the potty... (fyi: Potty Training sucks) Anyways during her excitement she accidentally knocked my op3 off of the table next to the chair I lounge in most of the time. Its not a high table by an means maybe 3ft (1 meter).. Ruffly.. Anyways it landed and on very soft carpet.. (You know the spots on the carpet that are still brand new because they never experience being walked all over.. Like the high traffic areas of the same piece of carpet... Its Like if you're going to drop your phone on the carpet... That's the spot you aim for..{ADHD BAD}).. to be honest I didn't even know it fell until I went to look for it like a hour later... When I picked it up... I was the one sh!tt!ng my pants..
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Quick update... The day after I made this thread my 3 year old daughter was running to me estaticly because she took a sh!t in the potty... (fyi: Potty Training sucks) Anyways during her excitement she accidentally knocked my op3 off of the table next to the chair I lounge in most of the time. Its not a high table by an means maybe 3ft (1 meter).. Ruffly.. Anyways it landed and on very soft carpet.. (You know the spots on the carpet that are still brand new because they never experience being walked all over.. Like the high traffic areas of the same piece of carpet... Its Like if you're going to drop your phone on the carpet... That's the spot you aim for..{ADHD BAD}).. to be honest I didn't even know it fell until I went to look for it like a hour later... When I picked it up... I was the one sh!tt!ng my pants..
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That sucks man and that happened from hitting the carpet ?
don't use any glue on top of cracked glass. remove screen from plastic frame, separate with cutting wire, clean old oca film, apply loca and new glass, and leave under uv lamp for 30-90mins. don't be lame with such waste of time and glass on top of cracked.
That damage seems excessive for falling a few feet onto carpet... Perhaps it's time to invest in a case
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That sucks man and that happened from hitting the carpet ?
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Yes... It is the reason for my indecisiveness on how to proceed forward... Because I honestly just received the phone from the repair center from the first broken screen... and for it to fall... on Charmin soft carpet and break like that is beyond my understanding... I absolutely love this phone because in my opinion it is the closet phone that would be comparable to the nexus line... but if this bullsh!t keeps up I might as well just buy a friggin' Pixel.. For perspective I purchased the 3t to replace my LG G5 which is not broken... but it is very limited on the software side.. not my cup of tea... but the thing is a tank. I have dropped that phone at times where I just knew before I picked it up that the screen was shattered... but that was never the case. The thing is still 100 percent OEM... I am starting to get hesitant about throwing anymore money at it.. I guess ill wait for a response from OnePlus support to see which pill I should take.. red or blue?? f*ck it.. ill take both
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don't use any glue on top of cracked glass. remove screen from plastic frame, separate with cutting wire, clean old oca film, apply loca and new glass, and leave under uv lamp for 30-90mins. don't be lame with such waste of time and glass on top of cracked.
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That you for the tutorial my friend but I am assuming you misunderstood the content of this post. I broke my phone, purchased glass, sent phone to OnePlus Service, Glass arrived while phone was being repaired, received phone back, was curious if I could use glass as screen protection, broke phone again, $h!t my pants..
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That damage seems excessive for falling a few feet onto carpet... Perhaps it's time to invest in a case
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You're [email protected] right it is... That honestly crossed my mind. They f'ed up somehow.. skipped a step... who knows.. Or, maybe, just maybe the glass they used was defective.. Long shot but at least it would make sense.. Anyways imma get a joint venture on their a$$ like the ppl are doing to LG over the bootloops... Whos with me??
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That damage seems excessive for falling a few feet onto carpet... Perhaps it's time to invest in a case
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OOOOhh... My bad broski... I thought you meant a court case... Not something that was attached to the phone like pictured below
Ali will always be there for us.
Get the whole packages(Screen, LCD and Frame), No need Loca Loca Boca Boca.
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Ali will always be there for us.
Get the whole packages(Screen, LCD and Frame), No need Loca Loca Boca Boca.
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believe it or not.... it is much cheaper then buying the parts and doing the work myself compared to sending it to the repair center without worries of more damage.
I just realized that the way I wrote this is confusing af
It is cheaper to send my phone to the repair shop then to purchase the part off the internet... that is if you purchase the display assembly.. the glass runs around $5 usd the assemblies are well over $100 usd. If you know of anywhere I can get the assembly cheaper please let me know