I admit it, I'm a noob. Now once all the finger pointing and snikering subsides, I have a question........well maybe more of an opinion poll. I recently upgraded from a Motorola Droid Pro to a Motorola Droid 4. I did not root my pro because I was afraid of bricking it and now with the 4 I have the same concerns. The only reasons for my interest in rooting is: getting rid of "bloatware", battery life improvement (if possible), speed, and in general just because it can be done (for the "stick it to the man" enjoyment) Is rooting my Droid 4 a good option for me for no more than what I'm looking to do with a rooted phone? FYI I have never rooted any device and I do not want to do it if I can never go back to stock.
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I admit it, I'm a noob. Now once all the finger pointing and snikering subsides, I have a question........well maybe more of an opinion poll. I recently upgraded from a Motorola Droid Pro to a Motorola Droid 4. I did not root my pro because I was afraid of bricking it and now with the 4 I have the same concerns. The only reasons for my interest in rooting is: getting rid of "bloatware", battery life improvement (if possible), speed, and in general just because it can be done (for the "stick it to the man" enjoyment) Is rooting my Droid 4 a good option for me for no more than what I'm looking to do with a rooted phone? FYI I have never rooted any device and I do not want to do it if I can never go back to stock.
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I say go for it. Rooting the D4 is pretty painless using the D4 Utility, even for a "noob". If you root you can use something like Titanium Backup Pro to freeze bloatware (don't delete it) which could, potentially, help you in terms of battery life and speed. Just rooting is pretty risk free. You are still technically on stock and OTA updates will still work just fine. Just use the RootKeeper app to keep root when accepting an OTA. You start to worry about bricking when you get into flashing custom ROMs and leak builds. Although the D4 has proven pretty hard brick.
.............Although the D4 has proven pretty hard brick.
Meaning ........."proven pretty hard to brick"?
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.............Although the D4 has proven pretty hard brick.
Meaning ........."proven pretty hard to brick"?
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Yes. Hard TO brick. LOL
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Although the D4 has proven pretty hard brick.
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I think that was more the D1. I remember when I was doing some research into buying one (back when it was new), and someone on a forum making a joke that they dropped their D1 and broke the floor
D4 is also pretty sturdy, but definitely not the tank the D1 was.
Anyway, back on topic, OP it is pretty easy to root the D4, just make sure not to *delete* the bloatware, just freeze it in Titanium Backup (or similar program), that way when the inevitable ICS OTA comes over, you can still upgrade!
Now even more concerns, my mind works overtime on stuff like this, if I root will it void my warranty, if I root can I "unroot" and return to stock? I can't afford to purchase a new one if it breaks and the warranty is no good.
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Now even more concerns, my mind works overtime on stuff like this, if I root will it void my warranty, if I root can I "unroot" and return to stock? I can't afford to purchase a new one if it breaks and the warranty is no good.
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Yes, you can unroot. D4 utility has root and unroot functions. Yes, it does technically void your warranty but I have yet to hear of someone being turned down because their phone was rooted. Especially if it's a hardware issue.
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Yes, you can unroot. D4 utility has root and unroot functions. Yes, it does technically void your warranty but I have yet to hear of someone being turned down because their phone was rooted. Especially if it's a hardware issue.
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But if it is unrooted is that not technically back to stock and they couldnt tell that it was rooted? I understnd that if its broken and cannot, lets say power on, then of course i couldnt get into it to unroot. Sry for all the questions, but i tend to over analyze things
Correct. If you unroot (and make sure the superuser app is deleted) they shouldn't be able to tell it was rooted.
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You guys are awesome, I believe I'm am comfortable with the decision to root, just got to study on exactly how to do it
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You guys are awesome, I believe I'm am comfortable with the decision to root, just got to study on exactly how to do it
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Glad we could help! Good luck!
Rooted! Installed root keeper and titanium backup pro. Have frozen several "bloatware" apps. Thanks again for all the help. Any recommended apps or other safe "good" stuff for my newly rooted phone
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Rooted! Installed root keeper and titanium backup pro. Have frozen several "bloatware" apps. Thanks again for all the help. Any recommended apps or other safe "good" stuff for my newly rooted phone
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Foxfi is a great app for free wifi tethering for rooted and unrooted phones
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I got a HTC Hero CDMA (I Guess It's CDMA It's from Sprint), just a few days ago, and I was interested in how to root it & What the root does and how i can benefit if you will from having this phone rooted. Any help would be much helpful. Thank you
-Steven
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Damn I saw your name and I thought that you were posting the answer
Sorry For Posting in the wrong forum. I'm totally New to these types of phones. Any help would be much Appreciated
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Sorry For Posting in the wrong forum. I'm totally New to these types of phones. Any help would be much Appreciated
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Only the 1.5 can be rooted right now. There is a thread in the developers forum that they are using to post their results. I'm sure that when they root it they'll post in there or start a whole new thread.
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I got a HTC Hero CDMA (I Guess It's CDMA It's from Sprint), just a few days ago, and I was interested in how to root it & What the root does and how i can benefit if you will from having this phone rooted. Any help would be much helpful. Thank you
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Here are a couple of links that may help you out
http://lifehacker.com/5342237/five-great-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone
http://androidsocialmedia.com/developments/why-should-i-root-my-android-phone
If you were lucky enough for them to have given you a hero with 1.5 on it still, you will be able to root it now, so check your software version. Rooting gives you several advantages:
1) You don't have to wait for Sprint to get off it's a$$ to fix a bug.
2) Almost every ROM has been stripped of Sprint's bloatware.
3) Apps 2 SD is a big +. You can have a lot more apps because you are no longer limited by the internal memory of the phone.
4) Wireless tether.
5) Easy backup/restore.
The biggest advantage that is a combination of multiple things above is how fast your phone will be. Now, to be fair I will warn you of some disadvantages:
1) For the most part, you are on your own. People in the community will try to help all they can, but for the most part you need to be able to troubleshoot.
2) Technically, it does void your warranty and is not condoned by Sprint. That being said, if you have insurance you can always just pay $100 and get a new phone no matter what.
3) The reason phone manufacturers do not give you root to begin with is that you can do a lot of damage and really screw your phone up. For almost all things there is a simple fix of just restoring to a backup, except for one case: if you flash a bad radio.
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If you were lucky enough for them to have given you a hero with 1.5 on it still, you will be able to root it now, so check your software version. Rooting gives you several advantages:
1) You don't have to wait for Sprint to get off it's a$$ to fix a bug.
2) Almost every ROM has been stripped of Sprint's bloatware.
3) Apps 2 SD is a big +. You can have a lot more apps because you are no longer limited by the internal memory of the phone.
4) Wireless tether.
5) Easy backup/restore.
The biggest advantage that is a combination of multiple things above is how fast your phone will be. Now, to be fair I will warn you of some disadvantages:
1) For the most part, you are on your own. People in the community will try to help all they can, but for the most part you need to be able to troubleshoot.
2) Technically, it does void your warranty and is not condoned by Sprint. That being said, if you have insurance you can always just pay $100 and get a new phone no matter what.
3) The reason phone manufacturers do not give you root to begin with is that you can do a lot of damage and really screw your phone up. For almost all things there is a simple fix of just restoring to a backup, except for one case: if you flash a bad radio.
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Well said...You also forgot...
customization customization customization, oh yeah plus mods and overclock.
Check out this link to see some of the ways you can make your phone look and feel at your leasure. You can use the different themes that have been created or create one ur self once u learn the basics.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668887
So how did it turn out/
I sadly upgraded my phone to 2.1 before I knew you can't root it.. now o guess I will just have to wait until the root comes out de 2.1
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Root for 2.1 was successly acheived yesterday go and enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
Just do not do the OTA (over the air) update being sent out today as it fixes the root exploit....
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I sadly upgraded my phone to 2.1 before I knew you can't root it.. now o guess I will just have to wait until the root comes out de 2.1
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Your wait is over then, because yesterday they finally got Root on this bad boy. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
EDIT- The guy above me beat me to it. Sorry for the double info.
I'm about to get a Moto X on Tuesday. I wondered if there are any dangers of rooting the device? I am not interested (at least not right now) in running a custom ROM on it since it runs so close to AOSP anyway. But I would like to be able to use Titanium Backup with it and a few other things that require root.
I've read there are ways to do it, just not sure if they are safe or not.
As long as you can read and follow directions, there isn't anything to worry about.
Rooting your device void warranty and can brick your device if you don't follow the directions correctly or if you play with something you don't understand. But if you follow directions then you will be fine with nothing to worry about.
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I was in the same boat, wanting to use root only for TBU, Tasker, and the occasional wifi tether.
Don't be in a rush, the phone works pretty good in stock form. When you're ready, read the forums, follow directions, and you'll be fine. There are a couple threads devoted to the topic, I used Hashcode's TWRP method for unlocked bootloaders without problem (after unlocking which was a little bit of a PITA).
I'm no stranger to rooting and flashing roms. I'll admit to being intimidated a little by the Moto X forum posts since it seems that our phone is a little trickier than what I'm familiar with.
FWIW, battery life on this phone is awesome compared to my Gnex and it seemed to get even better when unlocked and rooted. Also, Xposed is awesome.
Good luck!
The real danger of rooting (other than voiding warranty, etc.) is potential user stupidity.
Root access still requires the user's permission. Whenever root access is requested by an app you will be prompted to grant access. If you get reputable apps from the play store this usually won't be an issue. If you are downloading APKs from less trustworthy sources all bets are off.
Malware often runs without root, and it's usually better this way because requesting root access without an obvious need is a big warning sign.
brian Marshall said:
The real danger of rooting (other than voiding warranty, etc.) is potential user stupidity.
Root access still requires the user's permission. Whenever root access is requested by an app you will be prompted to grant access. If you get reputable apps from the play store this usually won't be an issue. If you are downloading APKs from less trustworthy sources all bets are off.
Malware often runs without root, and it's usually better this way because requesting root access without an obvious need is a big warning sign.
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I completely agree with this. Personally, I have rooted all of my previous phones (Droid 2, HTC Rezound) but have not done so for this one. With the speed in which updates are released, and the fact that the phone is basically stock Android, I haven't felt the need to root it.
Also, you might find this post by me interesting: How to backup and restore app data without Root. The only real root feature I typically used was for backing up, but Helium + ADB can do all of this for you.
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I completely agree with this. Personally, I have rooted all of my previous phones (Droid 2, HTC Rezound) but have not done so for this one. With the speed in which updates are released, and the fact that the phone is basically stock Android, I haven't felt the need to root it.
Also, you might find this post by me interesting: How to backup and restore app data without Root. The only real root feature I typically used was for backing up, but Helium + ADB can do all of this for you.
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Yeah, I run LookOut for one but for another I never grant root access unless I specifically want it to DO something that requires it.
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the phone is basically stock Android, I haven't felt the need to root it.
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Agreed. Occasionally I'll think to my self that I'll get around to rooting it, but honestly I don't feel like I need to.
I kinda want to try out xposed, but there's almost zero motivation otherwise.
Thanks everyone for the replies, I appreciate it.
If your one of the many that got in on the Cyber Monday deal for the Moto X 2nd Generation then you may be like me and want to root this phone. Does anyone know if this is possible yet? I can't find anything on it yet so figured I'd start a thread on it.
There are actually a few threads on this already (general & q/a). No luck on root yet...
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There are actually a few threads on this already (general & q/a). No luck on root yet...
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Maybe after the deal a few devs got a hold of these and we'll see it soon. Fingers crossed here
Do I return this or hold off for root?
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Do I return this or hold off for root?
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My $0.02... If root is really important to you, return it.
I just need the wireless tether that's the main reason and custom roms of course.
We need to start a bounty thread for rooting the VZW version.
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We need to start a bounty thread for rooting the VZW version.
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I agree, it's really the only thing stopping me from activating my brand new Moto X 2014
So we don't have any ROM for XT1096 ?
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So we don't have any ROM for XT1096 ?
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Correct. I wouldn't count on ever getting root for this phone. If root is that important to you, you should probably go a different route.
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Correct. I wouldn't count on ever getting root for this phone. If root is that important to you, you should probably go a different route.
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How confident are you on this? I didn't think there were any phones that root was not possible on. I really don't want to keep the iPhone 6 but I don't have much longer before my return period is up. The only good thing is I have tethering with it
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How confident are you on this? I didn't think there were any phones that root was not possible on. I really don't want to keep the iPhone 6 but I don't have much longer before my return period is up. The only good thing is I have tethering with it
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Well I mean I can't say that it will never happen, but these newer phones are a lot more secure and locked down than android phones were a couple years ago. That, and the fact that most users of this phone purchased it because of the amazing motorola features that it comes with, so many users don't have the need or want for custom ROMs.
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How confident are you on this? I didn't think there were any phones that root was not possible on. I really don't want to keep the iPhone 6 but I don't have much longer before my return period is up. The only good thing is I have tethering with it
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Tons of phones. My S5 was out for a solid year until geohot came out and saved the day with towel root. This phone could easily never gain root.
Yeah. I think too many ppl are being too negative about root. It might not happen today but I think it will eventually. If Devs can root any of the Samsung Knox filled crap phones than we should have more faith.
Btw, there is a bounty thread started so donate if u can, give a dev more reason to help us.
While I'm missing having a rooted phone, the x doesn't need it IMHO. That's not saying I would root this bad boy immediately though. I'm just happy right now with 5.0. I have other devices rooted to hold me over anyways.
No no not negative. Just being frank with someone who thought every android phone automatically gets root.
I'm optimistic. I pledged money as well.
CF Autoroot Possibly?
Has anyone tried the latest CF Autoroot? It works on other Moto X 2014 editions...
Perefin said:
Has anyone tried the latest CF Autoroot? It works on other Moto X 2014 editions...
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Your bootloader has to be unlocked to run CF-Autoroot.
Where is the link for the CF Autoroot
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Has anyone tried this ?
http://androidbiits.com/android-5-0...-rom-motorola-moto-x-2nd-gen-xt1096-tutorial/
So I dropped my Galaxy S4 and destroyed the display, rendering it useless. Then I ordered a Nexus 6 and its amazing! I love it. I had rooted my S4 successfully and I had some root apps running, which I came to love and now I'm having trouble to live without them.
I want to root my Nexus 6, but my mom won't let me. She says she wants to learn more about the risks.
I don't understand her reasoning because rooting a Samsung on Verizon is extremely tricky compared to a Nexus, and I was able to do that without any problems. From what I can tell the risk is very low for a Nexus, and it's hard to completely brick as long as you don't go flashing the wrong stuff and I probably won't go flashing anything fancy until there are some more ROMs for Marshmallow. And if I ever do physically break it, its really easy to go back to stock and make it like it was never even messed with. I've tried to tell her this but she won't listen.
If anyone has a minute, can someone confirm and possibly reinforce my statement? I'd love to root this baby in the next few days. Thanks!
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So I dropped my Galaxy S4 and destroyed the display, rendering it useless. Then I ordered a Nexus 6 and its amazing! I love it. I had rooted my S4 successfully and I had some root apps running, which I came to love and now I'm having trouble to live without them.
I want to root my Nexus 6, but my mom won't let me. She says she wants to learn more about the risks.
I don't understand her reasoning because rooting a Samsung on Verizon is extremely tricky compared to a Nexus, and I was able to do that without any problems. From what I can tell the risk is very low for a Nexus, and it's hard to completely brick as long as you don't go flashing the wrong stuff and I probably won't go flashing anything fancy until there are some more ROMs for Marshmallow. And if I ever do physically break it, its really easy to go back to stock and make it like it was never even messed with. I've tried to tell her this but she won't listen.
If anyone has a minute, can someone confirm and possibly reinforce my statement? I'd love to root this baby in the next few days. Thanks!
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Tell her that you won't use a phone with restrictions. Give the phone back. Be strong, don't complain. Just leave the phone alone.
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So I dropped my Galaxy S4 and destroyed the display, rendering it useless. Then I ordered a Nexus 6 and its amazing! I love it. I had rooted my S4 successfully and I had some root apps running, which I came to love and now I'm having trouble to live without them.
I want to root my Nexus 6, but my mom won't let me. She says she wants to learn more about the risks.
I don't understand her reasoning because rooting a Samsung on Verizon is extremely tricky compared to a Nexus, and I was able to do that without any problems. From what I can tell the risk is very low for a Nexus, and it's hard to completely brick as long as you don't go flashing the wrong stuff and I probably won't go flashing anything fancy until there are some more ROMs for Marshmallow. And if I ever do physically break it, its really easy to go back to stock and make it like it was never even messed with. I've tried to tell her this but she won't listen.
If anyone has a minute, can someone confirm and possibly reinforce my statement? I'd love to root this baby in the next few days. Thanks!
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Just tell her your grandma`s phone is rooted too
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Tell her that you won't use a phone with restrictions. Give the phone back. Be strong, don't complain. Just leave the phone alone.
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If I did that then she would get pissed and just take the phone away... Stock is better than no phone at all. If I give her some evidence then that would most likely do the trick. I've learned that if I go about things in smart ways and don't get angry, I get what I want more often. Thanks though
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Just tell her your grandma`s phone is rooted too
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Lol... My grandfather's phone actually is rooted. He's got sprint though and they're better when it comes to fixing rooting.
Your mother is just being cautious. Yeah, the chances of brick on nexus phones are slim, but that depends on how much you know about rooting and such; or how well you can follow instructions to the letter. And, like any other phone, Nexus' can be very expensive to fix if damaged too much (hard brick). Especially with the Marshmallow update, anything can go wrong. If you're confident in what you're doing, go for it. Otherwise, listen to your mother.
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If I did that then she would get pissed and just take the phone away... Stock is better than no phone at all. If I give her some evidence then that would most likely do the trick. I've learned that if I go about things in smart ways and don't get angry, I get what I want more often. Thanks though
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No, be consequent, the phone is yours or not. You can not change the idea that there risks. Because there is a risk.
You could change the strategy. The risk is not the rooting process. The risk is the person that roots the phone. Show/tell her that you know all the howto's. You must give the impression you are an expert.
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Your mother is just being cautious. Yeah, the chances of brick on nexus phones are slim, but that depends on how much you know about rooting and such; or how well you can follow instructions to the letter. And, like any other phone, Nexus' can be very expensive to fix if damaged too much (hard brick). Especially with the Marshmallow update, anything can go wrong. If you're confident in what you're doing, go for it. Otherwise, listen to your mother.
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Yeah but compared to rooting an S4 a nexus is not risky at all... And wugfresh toolkit works on Marshmallow so that makes it even easier
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Yeah but compared to rooting an S4 a nexus is not risky at all... And wugfresh toolkit works on Marshmallow so that makes it even easier
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I didn't know the toolkit could now root Marshmallow. I could've sworn using it would brick the phone. If the root toolkit can do it, by all means go for it
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I didn't know the toolkit could now root Marshmallow. I could've sworn using it would brick the phone. If the root toolkit can do it, by all means go for it
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This page has mixed answers... One guy said it worked but another got bootloop. But a boot loop is easy to get out of and that seems like the worst thing that happened
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Yeah but compared to rooting an S4 a nexus is not risky at all... And wugfresh toolkit works on Marshmallow so that makes it even easier
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Last remark. Arguments won't change the idea's of your mother. Tell her you should be very happy when your phone is rooted. Because of the customizing possibilities, like the use of layers.
Happiness is a state of mind and you will remember many many years later the fun of using a smartphone that was rooted. Thanks to your mother.
first off, it is EASY to brick a nexus, especially if you go the toolkit route. why? because when you use a toolkit you never learn how to do anything, like fixing your device, or how to actually root properly. that said, if you do decide to go that way, ill expect to see a thread titled.. "my mom was right about me bricking my n6".
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This page has mixed answers... But a boot loop is easy to get out of and that seems like the worst thing that happened
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Still a hassle though. Luckily, I've never heard of anyone hard-bricking a nexus
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first off, it is EASY to brick a nexus, especially if you go the toolkit route. why? because when you use a toolkit you never learn how to do anything, like fixing your device, or how to actually root properly. that said, if you do decide to go that way, ill expect to see a thread titled.. "my mom was right about me bricking my n6".
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In that case, it's always wise to learn both methods. From my experience, as long as you unlock the bootloader and enable USB debugging, the root kit is foolproof
It's possible her concern isn't about bricking but data security risks?
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Still a hassle though. Luckily, I've never heard of anyone hard-bricking a nexus
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In that case, it's always wise to learn both methods. From my experience, as long as you unlock the bootloader and enable USB debugging, the root kit is foolproof
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both methods? theres is only one right method, pressing a button isnt a method. but, once you learn the proper method, feel free to use a toolkit. the problem is that a lot of newbies use toolkits, then run into easily fixable problems that they cant solve.
and it appears that you dont read much, as very many have bricked their nexus. most common way recently is by running into a bootloop without having your bootloader unlocked nor the option to unlock it enabled. thats a 100% brick, and its happened to very many people.
Not that I'm condoning defying your mom's explicit wishes, but she's not even going to know if you root it. Better to ask forgiveness after than permission before...
If you learn to do everything manually and not use a toolkit then it is quite hard to brick a Nexus device. BUT, I've not rooted my last two (N5 and this N6) as there's no point these days.
Bricking will occur if you try and take a short cut or don't follow instructions.
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both methods? theres is only one right method, pressing a button isnt a method. but, once you learn the proper method, feel free to use a toolkit. the problem is that a lot of newbies use toolkits, then run into easily fixable problems that they cant solve.
and it appears that you dont read much, as very many have bricked their nexus. most common way recently is by running into a bootloop without having your bootloader unlocked nor the option to unlock it enabled. thats a 100% brick, and its happened to very many people.
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I mentioned unlocking the bootloader and enabling USB debugging when using the root kit
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I mentioned unlocking the bootloader and enabling USB debugging when using the root kit
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id even unlock my bootloader even if i never rooted.
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id even unlock my bootloader even if i never rooted.
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Mine is always unlocked also
Alright guys, I've been out of this for a while. Actually...I'm on my rooted Note 7 right now lol.
So I'm looking for user input on what I can still do if not rooted? Phone comes tomorrow btw.
What I'm most interested in is what can still be done without root.... Disabling/freezing apps? Changing notification layout/symbols? Etc.
I know about the 80% charge thing... Could that ever be bypassed btw?
I know this is kind of a big question but I haven't had to do anything since rooting the 7 and I've been sitting here waiting for the 8. There's just so much to catch up on so I'm hoping you guys can help me either understand more of what's new or just give your .02
Thanks all!
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Saafir said:
Personal preference really. You can do just about as much without root as you can with. You can always try root out and go back if you wish. This root method does not permanently break Samsung Pay, so Odin back to stock if not satisfied. I haven't rooted since the last OTA update. Mainly because it's a wonky method. If it was true root, I would say go for it hands down... but yeaaa
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I agree with Saafir! It all about your preference. I have the Note 8 rooted for testing purposes. It is not a true root and a lot of the rooted apps do not work. Plus you cannot have a custom recovery since the boot loader cannot be unlocked at the moment.
Saafir said:
Personal preference really. You can do just about as much without root as you can with. You can always try root out and go back if you wish. This root method does not permanently break Samsung Pay, so Odin back to stock if not satisfied. I haven't rooted since the last OTA update. Mainly because it's a wonky method. If it was true root, I would say go for it hands down... but yeaaa
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Does going back to stock bring back 100% charging?
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jlechner said:
Does going back to stock bring back 100% charging?
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I believe it does. Haven't seen any reports of it not going back to 100% when going back to stock.
I personally have not rooted. There are ways to do what I need to do without root. Just make sure that if you choose to root and will be using the SamFail v2.5 root method, read all that you can and search. Try not to ask questions over there unless they haven't been asked. You will get flamed big time.
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fogame said:
I believe it does. Haven't seen any reports of it not going back to 100% when going back to stock.
I personally have not rooted. There are ways to do what I need to do without root. Just make sure that if you choose to root and will be using the SamFail v2.5 root method, read all that you can and search. Try not to ask questions over there unless they haven't been asked. You will get flamed big time.
Don't mind helping if you get stuck somewhere.
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Roger that.
Yeah, thankfully this wouldn't be my first root rodeo by any means.
I mostly use root for bloatware removal and a handful of xposed modules. Xposed isn't working yet anyways so hopefully there'll be a future with that (or at least some form of alternatives.)
Thanks for the info guys!
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Me personally i love rooting my phones to get a personal touch. But for once I really don't need to root this phone right now. Because i can still get the hotspot for f*** and use nova for a different launcher and they have most things for me to customize like screen savers, different ringers get rid of some annoying toasts popups except for the vol up warning which I can live with. Plus the Samsung pay is the deal breaker for me right now for rooting. Because it is convenient especially when I forget my wallet while at work or a quick run to the junk food store. Till there is a work around like on the note 4 for android pay I used to own before I upgraded to the 8 I'll be a lame stockboy.
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There Is no need to root the n8.. but give it a try .. my two cents is the device seem slower and the apps that you install for root you wouldn't really miss. The Pro of rooting is you can change system files around to your liking and add futures that normal you wouldn't get for free. For example, I would have to pay Sprint to use spam identifier caller ID that normally Samsung would give you for free....