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Sorry for this perhaps a foolish question but here goes:
Will somebody please explain to me what is tablet mode and phone mode? Why do we have to put the note on tablet mode or phone mode? why not together?
THANKS!
it's not foolish, but you might have probably googled the answer yourself, shortly speaking ICS interface is bit different on larger screens (tablets) than on smaller screens (phones), hence two modes - google for details. Now if you turn on the tablet mode on small screen, the text and icons will become really small. Note with it's 5.3" screen sits somewhere in between, so on some ROMs you might switch it to tablet mode, and be still able to see the text and icons, but there is no "must" here, it's your choice. the two ROMs I'm aware of that support tablet mode are CM9 and Paranoid, not sure about stock ones. the way you can change mode is by changing screen DPI from default 320 to afair 213, either by editing build.prop file or using one of the apps available in the market (search phrase: screen density).
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Thanks. I did not even know this pertains to ICS. I am still on GB until brick problem is resolved.
muntinlupa said:
Thanks. I did not even know this pertains to ICS. I am still on GB until brick problem is resolved.
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Should you be tempted to try, I'd recommend CM9, which should be safe to install, provided you follow instructions
p107r0 said:
it's not foolish, but you might have probably googled the answer yourself, shortly speaking ICS interface is bit different on larger screens (tablets) than on smaller screens (phones), hence two modes - google for details. Now if you turn on the tablet mode on small screen, the text and icons will become really small. Note with it's 5.3" screen sits somewhere in between, so on some ROMs you might switch it to tablet mode, and be still able to see the text and icons, but there is no "must" here, it's your choice. the two ROMs I'm aware of that support tablet mode are CM9 and Paranoid, not sure about stock ones. the way you can change mode is by changing screen DPI from default 320 to afair 213, either by editing build.prop file or using one of the apps available in the market (search phrase: screen density).
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When i used i9000 i faound fully tablet ui cm9 rom bright side evulation but now in n7000 i dont find any rom like fully tab ui. Now im using rooted stock rom LQ3. Can i change density from its build.prop and get tab mod?
Sorry for my bad english
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p107r0 said:
the way you can change mode is by changing screen DPI from default 320 to afair 213, either by editing build.prop file or using one of the apps available in the market (search phrase: screen density).
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240 on mine and the latest version of plume has gone to tablet mode. opera is still at phone mode though...
muntinlupa said:
Thanks. I did not even know this pertains to ICS. I am still on GB until brick problem is resolved.
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i thought speedmod's latest kernel resolves the hardbrick issue?
p107r0 said:
it's not foolish, but you might have probably googled the answer yourself, shortly speaking ICS interface is bit different on larger screens (tablets) than on smaller screens (phones), hence two modes - google for details. Now if you turn on the tablet mode on small screen, the text and icons will become really small. Note with it's 5.3" screen sits somewhere in between, so on some ROMs you might switch it to tablet mode, and be still able to see the text and icons, but there is no "must" here, it's your choice. the two ROMs I'm aware of that support tablet mode are CM9 and Paranoid, not sure about stock ones. the way you can change mode is by changing screen DPI from default 320 to afair 213, either by editing build.prop file or using one of the apps available in the market (search phrase: screen density).
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Hay man i change my stock LQ3 rom density 213 n find some apps, play store, lock screen n setting in tab mod. But my toogle bar is vanish, home screen dose not rotate like tab mod & said a massage sestem ui unfortunately stop. Plz help me n sugest me for full tab mod. My build.prop under hear.
ro.build.product=GT-N7000
ro.tether.denied=false
# Do not try to parse ro.build.description or .fingerprint
ro.build.description=GT-N7000-user 4.0.3 IML74K XXLQ3 release-keys
ro.build.fingerprint=samsung/GT-N7000/GT-N7000:4.0.3/IML74K/XXLQ3:user/release-keys
ro.build.characteristics=phone
# Samsung Specific Properties
ro.build.PDA=N7000XXLQ3
ro.build.hidden_ver=N7000XXLQ3
ro.build.changelist=646962
# end build properties
#
# system.prop for smdk4210
#
rild.libpath=/system/lib/libsec-ril.so
rild.libargs=-d /dev/ttyS0
ro.sf.lcd_density=213
wifi.interface=wlan0
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=15
#wlan.driver.apmode unloaded
media.enable-commonsource=true
persist.sys.storage_preload=1
#
#System property for qemu
#
ro.kernel.qemu=0
ro.lcd_min_brightness=40
#
# ADDITIONAL_BUILD_PROPERTIES
#
ro.opengles.version=131072
ro.sf.lcd_density=213
ro.config.ringtone=S_Over_the_horizon.ogg
ro.config.notification_sound=S_Whistle.ogg
ro.config.alarm_alert=Good_Morning.ogg
ro.config.media_sound=Media_preview_Touch_the_light.ogg
hwui.render_dirty_regions=false
ro.com.google.clientidbase=android-samsung
ro.url.legal=http://www.google.com/intl/%s/mobile/android/basic/phone-legal.html
ro.url.legal.android_privacy=http://www.google.com/intl/%s/mobile/android/basic/privacy.html
ro.error.receiver.default=com.samsung.receiver.error
dalvik.vm.heapstartsize=8m
dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit=64m
dalvik.vm.heapsize=256m
Sorry for my bad English
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jeremy.chan said:
240 on mine and the latest version of plume has gone to tablet mode. opera is still at phone mode though...
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How can u do this? When i edited my stock LQ3 Rom build.prop i falling problems like unfortunately system ui stop, my top toggle bar vanish etc.
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cdaarif said:
Hay man i change my stock LQ3 rom density 213 n find some apps, play store, lock screen n setting in tab mod. But my toogle bar is vanish, home screen dose not rotate like tab mod & said a massage sestem ui unfortunately stop. Plz help me n sugest me for full tab mod. My build.prop under hear.
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As said before I'm not sure about tablet mode on stock ROMs, but to me it seems that - in true explorer's spirit - you've checked it, and it just did not work, which seems possible, considering that Samsung stock ROMs are heavily modified.
I might be wrong, and maybe it's possible to have working tablet mode under stock ICS, but so far have not encountered any proof (did not search for it though)
If you are really desperate for this mode, try either CM9 (have it, use it, and I'm not going back to stock anytime soon) or Paranoid, although my personal opinion - after trying for myself - is that tablet mode does not provide any special excitement, apart from almost invisible icons (as for the text, luckily, CM9 has an option of increasing system font size, so I was able to read the icon labels at least)
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Should you be tempted to try, I'd recommend CM9, which should be safe to install, provided you follow instructions
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Thanks but I don't want to flash firmware daily. The CM9 site does not even have a "stable" or RC build. when this will stop being a WIP job they are not indicating. I only want a declared as stable rom.
muntinlupa said:
Thanks but I don't want to flash firmware daily. The CM9 site does not even have a "stable" or RC build. when this will stop being a WIP job they are not indicating. I only want a declared as stable rom.
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there must be few minor issues pending, otherwise it would already be declared stable, but I'm running it for few weeks, and see no annoyances so far (except for USB mode speed, but it might be a problem on my side) additionally devs are providing nightly updates, so each day it gets little bit better under the hood
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I still did not get the concept of phone and tablet mode. I am on stock GB, while browsing thru XDA app I get a sms from my phone number. Isn't the browsing mode tablet mode and the sms phone mode? Why call the change in display density "tablet" mode? Why not call everything pertaining to telephony as phone mode and all the others are tablet mode?
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I still did not get the concept of phone and tablet mode. I am on stock GB, while browsing thru XDA app I get a sms from my phone number. Isn't the browsing mode tablet mode and the sms phone mode? Why call the change in display density "tablet" mode? Why not call everything pertaining to telephony as phone mode and all the others are tablet mode?
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it's not related to device function, it's related to screen size - tablet have bigger screen, so it is possible to display more things on the screen at the same time, e.g. in Settings you will see main menu on the left, phones with smaller screen will display only one settings item contents
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it's not related to device function, it's related to screen size - tablet have bigger screen, so it is possible to display more things on the screen at the same time, e.g. in Settings you will see main menu on the left, phones with smaller screen will display only one settings item contents
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Thanks for your reply.
As to trying out ICS, not in a hurry,might wait for Jelly bean as the nexus will get it soon-perhaps note will have it?
Hi folks,
I read about this in the Tab Pro forum and found that this helps to make Tab S performance snappier with TouchWiz. If you use another launcher, it will be even more snapier. So here are the steps:
1) Enable developer options by tapping Build Number 7 times. You will find Build Number by Settings -> General -> About Device.
2) Once the developer options are enabled, change Window Animation scale, Transition Animation scale, Animator Duration scale from 1x to 0.5x (see attached snapshot)
Regards,
Kalpesh
Tried all that. I would also try disableing system apps and use greenify to hibernate apps until you open them. I also use nova launcher and changed the speeds to fast. I also use a live wallpaper and its all smooth. What font do you use? This is what my tab s looks like. Im am rooted on stock rom.
guygenius said:
Hi folks,
I read about this in the Tab Pro forum and found that this helps to make Tab S performance snappier with TouchWiz. If you use another launcher, it will be even more snapier. So here are the steps:
1) Enable developer options by tapping Build Number 7 times. You will find Build Number by Settings -> General -> About Device.
2) Once the developer options are enabled, change Window Animation scale, Transition Animation scale, Animator Duration scale from 1x to 0.5x (see attached snapshot)
Regards,
Kalpesh
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That doesn't improve the performance, it just hides some of the lags. It is nice that you try to help people (really, it is), but you should have chosen a different headline.
Anyway, I would advise against changing Animator Duration, with it deactivated Hangouts refused to auto scroll to new messages.
Thats like putting a bandaid on a wound. Want to reduce lag? Find the thread that lists all the system apps you can delete.
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Tried all that. I would also try disableing system apps and use greenify to hibernate apps until you open them. I also use nova launcher and changed the speeds to fast. I also use a live wallpaper and its all smooth. What font do you use? This is what my tab s looks like. Im am rooted on stock rom.
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The font that I use is Rosemary.
android apps are almost all for smartphones only a few apps have extensions that allow you to make better use of your tablet's screen size,
after installing some apps that have a different shape on the tablet i noticed that on mediapad m3 nothing changes, they are the same shape as a larger smartphone,
i wonder and wonder you:
maybe the m3 is not recognized as a tablet or needs to be changed some settings?
There have been quite a few threads or sub-threads on this. the DPI needs to be changed to have the M3 render some apps in their tablet modes, most of the discussions revolve around Chrome (no tabs in original DPI and YouTube). Try running this command from ADB:
adb shell wm density 320 && adb reboot
320 works well for me on Nougat, but you might need to experiment with what works well for you and the version you are on. If you haven't changed your view mode, the change should stick after rebooting, if you have then chances are you will need to use a DPI changing app to update your settings after each reboot.
johje said:
There have been quite a few threads or sub-threads on this. the DPI needs to be changed to have the M3 render some apps in their tablet modes, most of the discussions revolve around Chrome (no tabs in original DPI and YouTube). Try running this command from ADB:
adb shell wm density 320 && adb reboot
320 works well for me on Nougat, but you might need to experiment with what works well for you and the version you are on. If you haven't changed your view mode, the change should stick after rebooting, if you have then chances are you will need to use a DPI changing app to update your settings after each reboot.
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thanks for the reply, i already knew the change of DPI,
maybe i have not explained the problem well, so let's take an example:
if you install Metatrader 5 on smartphone and on a true tablet you will see two different shape on display while on mediapad m3 i see the same shape no difference,
the same problem occurs each time i install an application that must appear on a tablet differently from a smartphone
There is no general "tablet" identifier, but apps decide based on screen size / resolution / dpi if they change their layout or not: https://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html#qualifiers
So changing the DPI is the currently best option.
(Perhaps some apps tweaked this by overwriting these qualifiers for certain models based on the device identifier.)
fluxxis said:
There is no general "tablet" identifier, but apps decide based on screen size / resolution / dpi if they change their layout or not: https://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html#qualifiers
So changing the DPI is the currently best option.
(Perhaps some apps tweaked this by overwriting these qualifiers for certain models based on the device identifier.)
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thanks for your contribution, something strange happens that i explain:
also my bank offers an app that has a different shape depending on where it is installed and installing it from google play to the mediapad m3 comes on the tablet version, unfortunately the layout is not compatible with the screen but changing the dpi the issue is solved and the app becomes fully usable, while the metatrader 5 app does not seems to recognize mediapad m3 as a tablet and it installs with the shape of the smartphone.
maybe i understand where the issue is:
i belive that mediapad m3 has a wrong package installer or a bug in it.
I came to this conclusion after this test:
i download the apk file on pc then transfers it to old consumer tablet and also to mediapad m3,
so i manually installed it in both
then i saw that in the mediapad m3 had been installed the smartphone version while in the “old tablet” had properly installed the tablet version,
what do you think?
@johje, @fluxxis, i was confusing, i was thinking in wrong way, i apologize, your suggests was right
There is a choice of display settings in system settings. You can choose small, medium or large.
Probably this setting changes the logical resolution of the display. Small is the right setting, after reboot the tablet behaves as a tablet should.
antisztar said:
There is a choice of display settings in system settings. You can choose small, medium or large.
Probably this setting changes the logical resolution of the display. Small is the right setting, after reboot the tablet behaves as a tablet should.
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Hi... so we have to change display settings in the small view and launch the adb command?
In another thread I read the chance of modify the minimum value from 640 to 720 dpi in the developer settings.
What's the right choice?
Thanks.
Hi !
Have you some features that you wish to be included on Emui 8.0 but you have to find an app to make it happened ?
There is my list :
Caffeine > Caffeinate
More Quick Tiles options > Shortcutter Quick Settings
AdBlock > Blokada and Yandex
Merged Storage (or move apps to SD) > not found yet :crying:
Change DPI of the UI > not found yet :crying:
A good Dark/Black Theme that don't mess with the UI > Change DPI of the UI > not found yet :crying:
Don't hesitate to share !
Change DPI
You can change DPI by activating developer mode.
Thanks but it cause me glitches with several settings, did you found a stteing witch make it more compact and without bug?
EtienneHD said:
Hi !
Have you some features that you wish to be included on Emui 8.0 but you have to find an app to make it happened ?
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Multiple user accounts, it's such a shame Huawei crippled that option when it's supported by the underlying operating system. No workaround that I know of...
Wish there was an auto setting for the backlight...
First world problem I know but it's not ideal to have to adjust brightness yourself
There is merged storage. Its just not clear how to do it. Go into settings, then storage. Underneath the SD Card option there is an option called storage settings, default location. Change it to SD card, the tablet will reset and you will now have joint storage. Works fine for me. Having the 16gb version with only 7gbs available was a real shocker for me. I wouldn't have purchased it, if i had known this. I mean, seriously, why do they need over 8 gigs for the OS+install files?
Anyway, I slapped in a 32gb card, did the above and all my apps install on the SD card now.
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There is merged storage. Its just not clear how to do it. Go into settings, then storage. Underneath the SD Card option there is an option called storage settings, default location. Change it to SD card, the tablet will reset and you will now have joint storage. Works fine for me. Having the 16gb version with only 7gbs available was a real shocker for me. I wouldn't have purchased it, if i had known this. I mean, seriously, why do they need over 8 gigs for the OS+install files?
Anyway, I slapped in a 32gb card, did the above and all my apps install on the SD card now.
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I suppose you are not speaking seriously. Have you checked your internal storage before and after installing some apps?
There's no way you can merge the memory. Wish it was that easy.
adilk4747 said:
You can change DPI by activating developer mode.
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Hello, screen are too big.
DPI can be changed on Smallest Width ?
What is good value ? And how can be saved on reboot ?
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What is good value ? And how can be saved on reboot ?
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Tried few values between around 700, but UI gliched a bit, camera UI was broken and few buttons were on top of each other.
If anyone have a valid value we would appreciate it.
Thanks for answer.
This low DPI for 1920x1200 screen are not serious from Huawei...
I set 720 dp. Settings menu are glitched.
jesjimher said:
Multiple user accounts, it's such a shame Huawei crippled that option when it's supported by the underlying operating system. No workaround that I know of...
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Exactly, very useful for a tablet, especially when you have a kid. A shame…
beerfly said:
Tried few values between around 700, but UI gliched a bit, camera UI was broken and few buttons were on top of each other.
If anyone have a valid value we would appreciate it.
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Hello,
Values 679 to 754 glitches settings menu.
I set Smallest Width at 678 dp.
I used face unlock on my 2014 Nexus 9. It's a shame they have REMOVED this feature from original android. I was thinking of getting a MediaPad M5 Pro AND a Mate 20 Pro. I'm glad I have bought this cheaper tablet before. I'll never buy anything else from huaweii again.
EtienneHD said:
A good Dark/Black Theme that don't mess with the UI > Change DPI of the UI > not found yet :crying:
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Pitch black theme for emui 8 in playstore, not noticeable bugs (if u dot touch rare sides in android settings menu, etc)
I'm about to buy this tab but can anyone tell me if this tab is upgradeable to pie version? I heard from rumors we gonna get pie.
No Screensaver on my Device
I bought the Huawei MediaPad T5 10 3GB/32GB and I am not able to find a Setting to activate a Screensaver.
Is my Tablet broken ?
Hey all, just got the 4gb t5. My first one had a backlight issue but new one seems pretty good!
My main issue was the size of the items on screen and the launcher. Lawnchair and lawnfeed solved the launcher easy enough but thought I'd share how I got to the item scaling menu.
I used the app quickshortcutmaker:
- Add widget to desktop, choose quickshortcutmaker
- Change search mode to normal
- Search for 'vision' and only one option should pop up, select that
- You can choose to make this a shortcut, or you can just hit test and it will open up the vision settings window.
- Choose view mode and said the item size down a notch!
This changes the display to be a little smaller without any glitches.
Hope this helps someone out!
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I can't find the option in developer menu. Can you share please? Thanks
It's called "smallest width" in developer options, but doesn't stick after a reboot. If you use the method I put above you should get the smallest ui and without bugs, and it seems to hold when I turn the tablet off then on
Increase value in system - > dev options - > smallest width
EtienneHD said:
Hi !
Have you some features that you wish to be included on Emui 8.0 but you have to find an app to make it happened ?
There is my list :
Change DPI of the UI > not found yet :crying:
A good Dark/Black Theme that don't mess with the UI > Change DPI of the UI > not found yet :crying:
Don't hesitate to share !
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Increase value in system - > dev options - > smallest width
hi guys... somebody here knows correct values (if possible) of DPI so that on our NOTE 9, apps will simulate the tablet interface?
jd14771 said:
i just set my dpi to 600 and chrome and a few others changed to tablet mode. Not all apps will "change" though.
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thanx for the reply sir.. you did not have any issues with app crashing at 600?
tried 600.... but gboard and even samsung keyboard is not usable anymore.hahaha
I have always used 576...( I use a larger font size)
The only app that caused trouble is Samsung keyboard but I use SwiftKey anyways... Swift key beta can be resized specifically to your needs...
With 576 I have never seem tablet mode
Just tested.... Default samsung won't turn to tablet mode with any dpi change...
Techvir said:
I have always used 576...( I use a larger font size)
The only app that caused trouble is Samsung keyboard but I use SwiftKey anyways... Swift key beta can be resized specifically to your needs...
With 576 I have never seem tablet mode
Just tested.... Default samsung won't turn to tablet mode with any dpi change...
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too bad we cannot maximize the use of our screen size... really would love tablet mode....
jd14771 said:
So, usually I use 500 DPI min width because that is the lowest DPI I can set that fools Beautiful Widgets into thinking I have a tablet. That way I can use the larger tablet widget. After comparing things with a screenshot today, im using 549dp now as the keyboard fits better.
But I set my phone back to 600 again and I was able to use chrome beta, chrome, Google phone, settings, Gboard.
Please note I only have Samsung files and Samsung note left installed when it comes to Samsung's apps, the rest have been uninstalled and replaced with googles version. I got tired of using 2 app stores to keep apps updated, and Samsung apps scaled terribly.
At the 3nd I also attached a picture of what 500 DPI looks like 9n google chrome. Seems every app has its own value that transitions design from phone to tablet. I prefer the phone layout of Chrome with DUET enabled so that the menu bar is at the bottom.
Fun Fact, you can force dark more on chrome using chrome://flags on Android.
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thanx sir for the help... nice find with the tips
at 600 dpi... gboard layout is very much different.which i think is not gud (my opinion)
thanx for the screenshots bdw ?