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Jerky performance problem, is it RAM or too many apps etc?

Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone experience jerky performances.
I have about 10 pages of apps installed mostly games and stock apps.
When I use advance app killer, usually i see stock apps eg. facebook, browser, ebook, etc.. When I kill them all, performance doesn't improve much.
If the 10 pages are the reason, any way to know which is running in background and sucking up resources?

The performance of your Gtab is jerky coz of the apps that run in the background even if you close them they restart.. u cn use startup auditor app to increase performance... if all fails hard reset nd install only required Apps not the apps u don't use but run behind nd eat up RAM nd battery
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a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error

I was in a similar situation until I last had to factory reset my Tab due to the whole issue with Google Apps Google Accounts not having access to Google Checkout on the Android Market.
Installed over 100 apps on my first day with the Tab (over-excited, I know ), and realized that my Tab started to lag when opening the app drawer. The problem became most apparent when I shut down or rebooted the Tab; it would literally take minutes to boot up, and often it would freeze and force close my launcher several times in a row.
I chalked it down to having too many apps, but later read that many apps start themselves up on boot even if they had no reason to (e.g. Amazon, Aldiko, etc.)
I've since only installed apps that I would really use throughout the day, but would you guys say that so long these apps do not run on startup (say I disable them using the Autostarts app), I can install a hundred or even two hundred apps without the boot up lag?

So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?

From my RAM manager, I see like 180+ to 200mb out of 400+mb. I think that's the remaining RAM ?
Anyone knows the stock RAM out of the box?

It might be because carriers pre load crap on them
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Installed the free startup app and found the culprits ... GAMELOFT games. They are huge in size and think they eat up the memory in background/at startup.
After disabling, all back to normal.

olyloh6696 said:
a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error
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Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
bzie said:
So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?
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Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.

TheATHEiST said:
Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.
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wow. i never knew of such app. please share.

olyloh6696 said:
wow. i never knew of such app. please share.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1

StarLog said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1
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cheers!
sorry outta 'thanks'

[Q] [stock rom] uninstalling softwares

which software/process did you uninstalled from your stock rom?
which is safe to uninstall?
did it made your phone better?

I uninstalled f-secure.. I can't say there is any differents.
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SNS, email, car home, weather and clock, preloaded apps. For me battery life has increased. Now always get 30+ hours from it without worry
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yoavtabakman said:
which software/process did you uninstalled from your stock rom?
which is safe to uninstall?
did it made your phone better?
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Uninstalled:
o F-Secure
o Car Home
o LG Email (installed stock android e-mail instead, it actually works with Exchange.)
o PC Suite
o On Screen Phone and related services
o LG Launcher (don't do this unless you're sure you'll not need to factory reset.)
o SNS (Twitter/Facebook, official apps are better.)
o All LG-widgets except for Messages and Calendar.
o Voice Search
If you're unsure if uninstalling an app will mess up your phone, just freeze it instead. (If you're using Titanium Backup, which you should, you can get it to remove it from the Market and app-screen as well, making it appear completely uninstalled. If your phone doesn't do anything strange for a week then it's probably safe to uninstall it for real.)
::Trym

thanks TrymHansen...
i do have Titanium backup pro. i'm a veteran of the galaxy i7500, so i did alot of freezing and uninstalling.
i opened this thread to compile a list of safe prof uninstalling so everyone will benefit
from it.
your reply is great contribution in that cause.

How you uninstalled all these apps?

Optimus2XPrime -
1. you need to have root (read how to in the Development sector).
2. you need to install any uninstalling tool from the market (Titanium backup for example).
3. you need to be very careful with what you uninstall so the phone will still be usable.
4. advice - uninstall stuff thet you read others have and reported it's fine...

yoavtabakman said:
Optimus2XPrime -
1. you need to have root (read how to in the Development sector).
2. you need to install any uninstalling tool from the market (Titanium backup for example).
3. you need to be very careful with what you uninstall so the phone will still be usable.
4. advice - uninstall stuff thet you read others have and reported it's fine...
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1) done
2) downloaded
3-4) will be done
P.S some minutes after my post I found the answer

what does freeze do ?

removes selected app from app drawer and cannot be started by user and/or system. like they are uninstalled, but still there, occupying few megabytes. can easily be un-freezed from Titanuim

Isnt there any free software ? titanium is paid one
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Netuser said:
Isnt there any free software ? titanium is paid one
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There is the free version (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&feature=search_result)
and the pro one which costs, try the free one

But in description it says only pro can freeze app. Not true ? anyway going to install to test
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Ok i took Pro version as this app seem neccessary.
I freezed some of app, SNC, Car home, F secure, I would like to Freeze Facebook for Lg as I already have official app which is better i think and updated. But when go in Batch Freeze i only see 1 Facebook app, which one is this ? :S
Also why I have 2 Music app ? Music 1.0 Music 2.2.2 what is this ?
thanks

Netuser said:
Ok i took Pro version as this app seem neccessary.
I freezed some of app, SNC, Car home, F secure, I would like to Freeze Facebook for Lg as I already have official app which is better i think and updated. But when go in Batch Freeze i only see 1 Facebook app, which one is this ? :S
Also why I have 2 Music app ? Music 1.0 Music 2.2.2 what is this ?
thanks
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to Freeze LG Facebook, Freeze "SNS".
Music 1.0 vs 2.2.2 - One is the music widget, one is the player.
::Trym

Thanks
phone seems faster and less lag after freezing sns, car home, fsecure and voice search. Dont know if it is placebo lol
Any other usless app i can block ?
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I froze all of this
alarm/clock 1.0
weather/klok 2.2.2
lg home 2.2.2
todays information 2.2.2
sns 1.0
backup 2.0.0.205
email 1.0
f-secure
lg keyboard
music (flash nomusic in stat bar)
fireworks live
christmas live wall
polaris
smartshare
app advisor
news and weahter
analog clock
remotecall
fm radio + widget
speach recorder
calendar + widgets
carkit
memo + widget
yahoo news
bookmarks + widget
clock widgets
message widget
music widget
mirror
start screen tips
todays planning

Mjuksel said:
I froze all of this
alarm/clock 1.0
weather/klok 2.2.2
lg home 2.2.2
todays information 2.2.2
sns 1.0
backup 2.0.0.205
email 1.0
f-secure
lg keyboard
music (flash nomusic in stat bar)
fireworks live
christmas live wall
polaris
smartshare
app advisor
news and weahter
analog clock
remotecall
fm radio + widget
speach recorder
calendar + widgets
carkit
memo + widget
yahoo news
bookmarks + widget
clock widgets
message widget
music widget
mirror
start screen tips
todays planning
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I actually uninstalled all of that. I also uninstalled:
Remote input service
Remote screen service
Remote uinput service
LG PC Suite
LG on screen phone
user dictionary <-- this is for use with the LG keyboard
(Except the mirror. I like the mirror. )

wao thats a long list
Can you tell me what is widget or app that do that weather animation in backgroud when we unlock or update the weather ? as i like it alot i dont want to freeze it
Can i freeze the SMS app without any problem ? i am using handscent as default sms app
thanks

Netuser said:
wao thats a long list
Can you tell me what is widget or app that do that weather animation in backgroud when we unlock or update the weather ? as i like it alot i dont want to freeze it
Can i freeze the SMS app without any problem ? i am using handscent as default sms app
thanks
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its not SMS, its S N S Facebook/Twitter/Myspace app
if you want to freeze the SMS app, you need to freeze MMS.apk

[Q] How to stop applications at startup

Hi
i have stock kernel and gingerdx 021.
I am wondering how can i stop applications from autorunning when my phone reboots? (ex: dsp manager, yahoo messenger, facebook)

pesky_89 said:
Hi
i have stock kernel and gingerdx 021.
I am wondering how can i stop applications from autorunning when my phone reboots? (ex: dsp manager, yahoo messenger, facebook)
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some apps just turn on by itself. some apps will eventually close itself after a period of time,thats android. the best way to prevent that is by freezing the apps when u dont use them. u can freeze an app using titanium backup pro or another app called antek,if im not mistaken...

what exactly freeze means? for example if i freeze yahoo messenger so that it wont start at startup, will i be able to use it without defrosting it?

Mate best way is to use an application called autostarts

For system apps, use App Quarantine
For user apps, use AutoKiller
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[Q] need app

Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..

Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Log off your Facebook account
NikosGREECE said:
Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Task killer can harm your phone
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dagger said:
Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..
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IAmNice said:
Of freeze them!
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NRG001 said:
Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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Thanks guys for checking my post
But the problem is that i need this apps but i just want them to start whenever i want not whenever they wont
I cant freez fb because the synced contacts will be gone
And sure thing I wont be using task killer
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NRG001 said:
Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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task killer does not harm your phone
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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open the app once..go in settings force close it.. it wont start again till you connect internet..

I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
Officially corp via w8

Mockingbird said:
I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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hehe I need it to sync contacts
leecorp said:
Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
Officially corp via w8
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I'm using it also thanks buddy
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cybervibin said:
So i saw many posts on which people have asked as to which task killer should be used !
and then i stumble upon this site which provided me the details,
*I HAVE NOT WRITTEN THIS*
sources-by Chris Hoffman
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
Android Doesn’t Manage Processes Like Windows
Most Android users are familiar with Windows. On Windows, many programs running at one time – whether they’re windows on your desktop or applications in your system tray – can decrease your computer’s performance. Closing applications when you’re not using them can help speed up your Windows computer.
However, Android isn’t Windows and doesn’t manage processes like Windows does. Unlike on Windows, where there’s an obvious way to close applications, there’s no obvious way to “close” an Android application. This is by design and isn’t a problem. When you leave an Android app, going back to your home screen or switching to another app, the app stays “running” in the background. In most cases, the app will be paused in the background, taking up no CPU or network resources. Some apps will continue using CPU and network resources in the background, of course – for example, music players, file-downloading programs, or apps that sync in the background.
When you go back to an app you were recently using, Android “unpauses” that app and you resume where you left off. This is fast because the app is still stored in your RAM and ready to be used again.
Why Task Killers Are Bad
Proponents of task killers notice that Android is using a lot of RAM – in fact, Android stores a lot of apps in its memory, filling up the RAM! However, that isn’t a bad thing. Apps stored in your RAM can be quickly switched to without Android having to load them from its slower storage.
In summary, you shouldn’t use a task killer – if you have a misbehaving app wasting resources in the background, you should identify it and uninstall it. But don’t just remove apps from your phone or tablet’s RAM – that doesn’t help speed anything up.
Empty RAM is useless. Full RAM is RAM that is being put to good use for caching apps. If Android needs more memory, it will force-quit an app that you haven’t used in a while – this all happens automatically, without installing any task killers.
Task killers think they know better than Android. They run in the background, automatically quitting apps and removing them from Android’s memory. They may also allow you to force-quit apps on your own, but you shouldn’t have to do this.
Task killers aren’t just useless – they can reduce performance. If a task killer removes an app from your RAM and you open that app again, the app will be slower to load as Android is forced to load it from your device’s storage. This will also use more battery power than if you just left the app in your RAM in the first place. Some apps will automatically restart after the task killer quits them, using more CPU and battery resources.
Whether RAM is empty or full, it takes the same amount of battery power – decreasing the amount of apps stored in RAM won’t improve your battery power or offer more CPU cycles.
hope u understood!
words of wisdom by fellow-mates
go into settings - apps and see how many running apps you have. now go to cached apps and see there, how many apps there are. you see? nearly 50% of those apps discovered by you in the processes are apps that you didn't opened ever but they are still opened and running. why? because that's how linux manages its resources. instead of having free ram for no use (what's the point of having 14gb of ram when you only use 1gb), linux fills all the ram blocks with useful apps or apps that you are running frequently so that when you call that app, it will bring it on the screen almost instantly. this my friend, is called multitasking.
and no, you are wrong. if you use a task killer killing the apps every 10 minutes, the cycles the whole system does - opening again apps and caching them, task killer closing them - results in much more functions done by CPU => more battery spent. even if you say that the battery life its the same, you are wrong. when using a task killer IT MIGHT drain your battery with 0.1% per hour. it's not that much, but IT EXIST.
oh and yeah, one thing: android has its own task killer. that's why you don't need one app to kill your other apps. because android its doing it by itself. if you don't believe me, strip down one kernel, open the init.rc file and find the values for task killer.
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
Sent from my X8 using xda premium
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I don't know if this is helpful or not but I'm trying to help you. I don't recommend you to use an application to block apps from starting on their own because it will ruin how Android managed it memory consumption. Since you've talked that Facebook app takes about 50MB of RAM I recommend you to use this instead of Facebook official app.
Hope I helped you.

Thanks man I got it now its bad to do such a thing
^_^
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[Q] Contact Storage using HIGH CPU

Hey guys,
I did a through scan over the internet, and seems like I'm the only one with this issue, and Please guys help me to find a solution. You are the only guys i can really count on, and that is the reason why i post all my problems here.
Few days back i realized my phone keeps heating - while charging, standby, and the battery keeps draining no matter whether i charge it or not.
So i use this DU Battery saver and it showed "Android Core Apps" using the most Battery, so when i click it, it pops up the contact storage app which is running and when i force stop it, the phone seems to be fine for a few minutes. I also realized that my contact list is lagging recently with this issue.
So today i decided to clear data, and cache of contact storage, and then restore my contacts through a .VCF file which i did, but even though contacts were imported, no single contact was shown on phone. So i decided to factory reset my phone after backing up all data and therefore i reset my phone WITHOUT CLEARING THE INTERNAL STORAGE and it seem to fix the issue. But i restored all my contacts and apps and now again. the issue is back. It heats the phone and i have to stop the contact storage app and everytime i use the phone or go on my contacts, the phone starts to heat and kill the battery.
So guys... what should i do??
My phone is a Sony Xperia Z1 running android 4.4 and is not rooted.

thanu10 said:
But i restored all my contacts and apps and now again. the issue is back.
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It seems, that you have installed a app which cause the heating and the high CPU use.
Delete every unimportant App.
You can post a list of your installed Apps and maybe we find the cause together.

DuZzEr said:
It seems, that you have installed a app which cause the heating and the high CPU use.
Delete every unimportant App.
You can post a list of your installed Apps and maybe we find the cause together.
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Thanks man, means alot. Yes i thought so too, but i uninstalled all the recently ins installed apps. Here's a list of apps i got
B1 Free Achiever
Fun Run
gStrings
Mobogenie
TuneIn Radio Pro
Firefox
Clean Master
Zedge
Dolphin Browser
Libon
Kik
PVSTAR
Tubemate
Perfectly Clear
SMS Backup+
Yahoo Mail
Whats App
Viber
SwiftKey
Bike Race
Spotify
Alpha Clock
SnapChat
Skype
LightFlow
Outlook.com
Yahoo Mail
MX Player
Messenger
Dropbox
DU Battery Saver Pro
AR Effect
CPU Monitor
There u go, I did not include the Apps that came with the phone, because i did not have any issue till last week

thanu10 said:
Thanks man, means alot. Yes i thought so too, but i uninstalled all the recently ins installed apps. Here's a list of apps i got...
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B1 Free Achiever [ok][keep]
Fun Run [ok][game]
gStrings [ok][keep]
Mobogenie [harmful][remove]
TuneIn Radio Pro [ok][keep]
Firefox [ok][decide Dolphin or Firefox, 3 browsers unecessary]
Clean Master [ok][keep, don't use too often]
Zedge [ok][remove]
Dolphin Browser [ok][decide Dolphin or Firefox, 3 browsers unecessary]
Libon [ok][keep]
Kik [ok][keep]
PVSTAR [ok][remove, use web]
Tubemate [ok][remove, use web]
Perfectly Clear [ok][keep]
SMS Backup+ [ok][keep]
Yahoo Mail[ok][remove]
Whats App[ok][keep]
Viber[ok][keep]
SwiftKey[ok, but privacy problems. See http://www.xda-developers.com/android/swiftkey-and-google-keyboard-ever-heard-of-user-privacy][depends]
Bike Race [ok][game]
Spotify [ok][keep]
Alpha Clock [ok][remove]
SnapChat[ok][keep]
Skype[ok][keep]
LightFlow[ok][keep]
Outlook.com[ok][keep]
MX Player[ok][keep]
Messenger[ok][keep]
Dropbox[ok][keep]
DU Battery Saver Pro[ok][unecessary because of Stamina feature, remove]
AR Effect [ok]
CPU Monitor [ok][keep]
Many of your apps are unnecessary, uninstall some stuff you don't need. First bracket is whether its harmful or not. Second bracket is suggestion to remove. If your phone is still slow after removing mobiegenie and some apps, try following the second bracket.