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Jerky performance problem, is it RAM or too many apps etc?

Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone experience jerky performances.
I have about 10 pages of apps installed mostly games and stock apps.
When I use advance app killer, usually i see stock apps eg. facebook, browser, ebook, etc.. When I kill them all, performance doesn't improve much.
If the 10 pages are the reason, any way to know which is running in background and sucking up resources?

The performance of your Gtab is jerky coz of the apps that run in the background even if you close them they restart.. u cn use startup auditor app to increase performance... if all fails hard reset nd install only required Apps not the apps u don't use but run behind nd eat up RAM nd battery
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a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error

I was in a similar situation until I last had to factory reset my Tab due to the whole issue with Google Apps Google Accounts not having access to Google Checkout on the Android Market.
Installed over 100 apps on my first day with the Tab (over-excited, I know ), and realized that my Tab started to lag when opening the app drawer. The problem became most apparent when I shut down or rebooted the Tab; it would literally take minutes to boot up, and often it would freeze and force close my launcher several times in a row.
I chalked it down to having too many apps, but later read that many apps start themselves up on boot even if they had no reason to (e.g. Amazon, Aldiko, etc.)
I've since only installed apps that I would really use throughout the day, but would you guys say that so long these apps do not run on startup (say I disable them using the Autostarts app), I can install a hundred or even two hundred apps without the boot up lag?

So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?

From my RAM manager, I see like 180+ to 200mb out of 400+mb. I think that's the remaining RAM ?
Anyone knows the stock RAM out of the box?

It might be because carriers pre load crap on them
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Installed the free startup app and found the culprits ... GAMELOFT games. They are huge in size and think they eat up the memory in background/at startup.
After disabling, all back to normal.

olyloh6696 said:
a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error
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Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
bzie said:
So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?
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Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.

TheATHEiST said:
Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.
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wow. i never knew of such app. please share.

olyloh6696 said:
wow. i never knew of such app. please share.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1

StarLog said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1
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cheers!
sorry outta 'thanks'

facebook goes mad!

This morning I noticed that my NS suffered a heavy slowdown in web page rendering, got laggy keyboard and the whole system was draining battery like hell! So I opened the "show CPU usage" tool that figured out that the "Facebook.katana" process was using a HUGE part of the CPU. I FC'd it and everything went right as usual... anyone else suffering from this kind of bug?

Yes, It Happened to me too. FC seems to fix it. I'm now not getting any push notifications from the app. Are you?

I have this installed
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zomut.watchdoglite
And Facebook kept popping up from time to time for overcpu utilization.

I found it best just to use another application, Facebook s app has always been the suck
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I use the browser as it doesn't suck like the apps.

That watchdog app is a lifesaver!

i will install watchdog and see what happens... thanks
tho, the fb app worsens day by day...

lately I realise one thing, if I use the back button on the FB app, seems like it will not trigger the watchdog, however it will if I use the home button to "quit" the facebook app.

[Q] The problem(s) with the facebook app running all the time

Why does the Facebook app always seem to be running in the backgound?
Even after a reboot, the app is running - usually 2 diferent services - media upload and notification checker or something.
With an X8, there's not much spare RAM, so to have facebook take up anywhere from 8mb to 16mb of ram is a problem for me.
Is there a way to stop this background activity without having to go to Applications>Running Services>STOP all the time, or, is there an alternative to the facebook app that behaves itself better?
Thanks
Impster

impster said:
Why does the Facebook app always seem to be running in the backgound?
Even after a reboot, the app is running - usually 2 diferent services - media upload and notification checker or something.
With an X8, there's not much spare RAM, so to have facebook take up anywhere from 8mb to 16mb of ram is a problem for me.
Is there a way to stop this background activity without having to go to Applications>Running Services>STOP all the time, or, is there an alternative to the facebook app that behaves itself better?
Thanks
Impster
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Yes it's old bug I try to log off from facebook but it's always back to running services. I fix that with unistall, if I need fb I install it direct from SD:cyclops:

I just uninstalled both facebook and twitter, and will try seesmic for a while.

impster said:
I just uninstalled both facebook and twitter, and will try seesmic for a while.
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Ohh yes, I forgot. I use SEESMIC on gcr and after log off there are not backgreound apps from seesmic :good::laugh:

What I do is I "freeze" the app.
That means the app is installed , but it can not run in the memory.
When I need the app again , I simply "defrost" it.
That way I am able to use the app whenever I want and I can simply and quickly switch between Freezing and Defrosting.
I use this application free on Google Play called "Chef's Freezer"

best to use facebook through the browser using opera mini is faster

jose385 said:
best to use facebook through the browser using opera mini is faster
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That's what I do. I've just put a bookmark on my homescreen.
Sent from my X8 to your screen

Chris95X8 said:
That's what I do. I've just put a bookmark on my homescreen.
Sent from my X8 to your screen
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friencaster app is also good, better than the official app
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[Q] Does the Battery Doctor works for you ?

Whenever I use this app **** it doesn't work properly, here is some bugs:
The widget is ****ed up! You click on the bottom and it says it closes 6 apps, the turn out: it doesnt close any ****. My apps keep running, and on settings I configure it to close way more apps than 6. but doesnt work..
Properly configured I go to optimize to close 42 apps. Ok, I know some of them are from android and android properly blocks that even though Im rooted and I grant the permission.
But some apps don't even close.. like facebook, cleaner...
Do that on your own. Close the apps with the Battery doctor app then go check apps that's running, and they will be there!
What is happening ?
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Liooh said:
Whenever I use this app **** it doesn't work properly, here is some bugs:
The widget is ****ed up! You click on the bottom and it says it closes 6 apps, the turn out: it doesnt close any ****. My apps keep running, and on settings I configure it to close way more apps than 6. but doesnt work..
Properly configured I go to optimize to close 42 apps. Ok, I know some of them are from android and android properly blocks that even though Im rooted and I grant the permission.
But some apps don't even close.. like facebook, cleaner...
Do that on your own. Close the apps with the Battery doctor app then go check apps that's running, and they will be there!
What is happening ?
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Test DU Battery Saver is best

keeps running...
Also, DU doesnt have the lowering CPU usage function --'

I personally use Greenify (non-root) with Automated hibernation enabled. Works fine for me and keeps those apps that sick the battery hibernated. I've not used Battery Doctor, and possibly won't since it sounds like some of the malware I remove off client unit's at work.

Battery "saver" apps usually end up doing the opposite... Wasting.
Except Greenify, when used properly. ?
Just my 2 cents.
Also, no need for the language... This is an all ages site remember. ?

Nasty Facebook Wakelock

I can't seem to shake this wakelock! It has persisted between 2 clean rom installs and 2 kernels. Can anyone advise?

I killed it by doing this:
1. Install Greenify
2. Greenify Facebook
3. Go into Greenify and if Facebook has been woken by that process (kind of hit or miss. You have to catch it at the right time), select Facebook and icons will appear in the top right corner of the screen
4.. Select the icon that looks like a pair of scissors to prevent it from being woken by that process
5. Profit

I have an even better solution: don't install Facebook.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I have an even better solution: don't install Facebook.
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Is that really necessary? Why would you click the thread title if you where not interested? I understand the need for debatable topics, but darn, fishing for them seems to go on a lot on XDA. I get its invasive permissions, I do. So, I see your angle, sir. Perhaps recommending a better app that doesn't have said invasiveness?
OP: I tried Fast for Facebook, but its a bit buggy, and pro version is paid. I uninstalled it because attaching photos inside a webkit window in an app doesn't work for Messenger for some reason. It's a lot easier on your battery, beast of a battery it is in our Nexus.
Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot about Trillian! Trillian is really really good for Messenger, but a bit buggy for Messenger groups. It's still good for getting a hold of your contacts, though, without having your microphone and camera turned on and bugged for no reason. Picture attachments work too, they open a direct server link in Chrome and auto-attach to the chat window so that you can see them.
Alternative Facebook solutions anyone? This guy needs help not having his phone wiretapped. XD
Not going to lie, Greenify is gold! I love the xposed module, too.

Not installing Facebook is a viable solution to the OP's wakelock. In fact, it's the most sensible solution, since you can still access Facebook using a browser. Seriously, do you really need to know how many people are posting useless crap on your facebook wall?
So yes, stating the obvious is absolutely necessary.
EDIT: Just to make this clear, Facebook is a resource hog, which is why not installing it is the sensible move. Permissions have little to do with it.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I have an even better solution: don't install Facebook.
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LupineDream said:
Is that really necessary? Why would you click the thread title if you where not interested? I understand the need for debatable topics, but darn, fishing for them seems to go on a lot on XDA. I get its invasive permissions, I do. So, I see your angle, sir. Perhaps recommending a better app that doesn't have said invasiveness?
OP: I tried Fast for Facebook, but its a bit buggy, and pro version is paid. I uninstalled it because attaching photos inside a webkit window in an app doesn't work for Messenger for some reason. It's a lot easier on your battery, beast of a battery it is in our Nexus.
Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot about Trillian! Trillian is really really good for Messenger, but a bit buggy for Messenger groups. It's still good for getting a hold of your contacts, though, without having your microphone and camera turned on and bugged for no reason. Picture attachments work too, they open a direct server link in Chrome and auto-attach to the chat window so that you can see them.
Alternative Facebook solutions anyone? This guy needs help not having his phone wiretapped. XD
Not going to lie, Greenify is gold! I love the xposed module, too.
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that was my solution to a Facebook wakelock years ago. when I never used Facebook for months, it used 10-25% of my battery, daily. so I uninstalled it. I've haven't been happier about it since. now I only use Facebook in the browser. anyways, did you know that Facebook is ranked at top 5 most hungry resource hog android apps?

Did anyone know if you use Facebook in chrome it will still push notifications?
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I keep my Facebook app because I like it. What I do is freeze it with titanium backup when I'm not using it and unfreeze it when I want to use it.

Try metal.
I used to only use Facebook thru chrome. You cannot
Share things or get updates as it is just a web site
Metal is for Facebook and twitter. Very light app.
It is in play store. Get it.

Can't greenify
Same issue here. Even greenify can't hibernate Facebook and messenger

On Chrome for Android, you can set websites to send you notifications as if they're a native app... What I do is click the dot menu, then tap "Add To Home Screen". Then I move the FB Website icon to my SOCIAL folder.
Then I go back to the 3 dot menu, select settings (while on the Facebook website), go under advanced and you will see " Site Settings". Give the FB Website permission to send you notifications through Chrome... And viola.
As for the greenify.... From what I can tell, somehow the FB app can refuse to be greenified... Look in Better Battery Stats and you'll see that FB is constantly running a bug report service... (At least that's what I've seen). What I used to do, before I got rid of it all together... Was just seipe to close it as soon as I was done with the app. That was a bit much in my mind. So I went the web browser route

Imranhakro said:
Same issue here. Even greenify can't hibernate Facebook and messenger
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1. Select Facebook/Messenger
2. Select the icon that appears in the top right corner that looks like a pair or scissors
3. Facebook/Messenger will no longer be woken by that service

Thanks so much for getting some resources together, guys!
Yeah, those push notifications for Facebook are annoying. Clear cookies and cache, log out of Facebook on Chrome, use Firefox browser instead, disable and greenify chrome (only when needed for webkits). I am going to try metal, but I love Trillian for Messenger at least. I was looking for an app solution, seeing as m.facebook.com doesn't have all of the functionality of regular Facebook.
When I get done rooting my device I'll make a video on this start - finish. Gonna give myself a 2A rapid charge so I can clear battery stats right off the gate - Nexus 6.

LupineDream said:
Thanks so much for getting some resources together, guys!
Yeah, those push notifications for Facebook are annoying. Clear cookies and cache, log out of Facebook on Chrome, use Firefox browser instead, disable and greenify chrome (only when needed for webkits). I am going to try metal, but I love Trillian for Messenger at least. I was looking for an app solution, seeing as m.facebook.com doesn't have all of the functionality of regular Facebook.
When I get done rooting my device I'll make a video on this start - finish. Gonna give myself a 2A rapid charge so I can clear battery stats right off the gate - Nexus 6.
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Have you considered just using Facebook.com and checking the option for request desktop site? It's a hassle unless you can somehow get it to stick for each visit. But that would give you the full site.
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Yoinx said:
Have you considered just using Facebook.com and checking the option for request desktop site? It's a hassle unless you can somehow get it to stick for each visit. But that would give you the full site.
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If you've got the Firefox Android browser, there is an add-on for "request desktop website" automatically for your specified websites. That might work.