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http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/16/android-2-0-screenshot-walkthrough/
check this out
This isn't really news to most people here and it also doesn't directly have anything to do with development, at least not in the way of helping anyone get a ROM out.
Looks like the droid to me. Also I'm not sure if this is actually built by google or just something from motorola/verizon.
Yeah that looks like the new verizon version of Android that will suck because its on verizon. it will be locked down where Rooting wont be a possibility. Nice pics though.
**** looks sick, but itll be much sicker when cyan gets his hands on it
Wow, you are all quite against Verizon, huh? I've been with T-Mobile now about 15 years, but they still do not have very good service when I am here in my house. I have to fight to get more than 1 bar, and when I do I need to stand in one spot and not move or my call drops, 3G is a joke here too. In using a Verizon phone the past few days it has 2-3 bars here in my house, and no issues with data. I have considered moving over since they are offering up that Android phone in the next few days, but if you are saying that it will be limited badly I will not go.
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Yeah that looks like the new verizon version of Android that will suck because its on verizon. it will be locked down where Rooting wont be a possibility. Nice pics though.
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Actually from what I hear, Verizon's not touching the phone (aside from their logo stamped on it). They are not touching the OS. Full GPS, Wifi, etc. I look forward to seeing if anyone can root this =) (it's only a matter of time, really... haha)
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Wow, you are all quite against Verizon, huh? I've been with T-Mobile now about 15 years, but they still do not have very good service when I am here in my house. I have to fight to get more than 1 bar, and when I do I need to stand in one spot and not move or my call drops, 3G is a joke here too. In using a Verizon phone the past few days it has 2-3 bars here in my house, and no issues with data. I have considered moving over since they are offering up that Android phone in the next few days, but if you are saying that it will be limited badly I will not go.
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Hey Tom I am in AZ also and I was with the big V for a very long time. They have wonderful service probably the best, now with that said...I did leave once T-mobile brought the G1 to this world. I got fed up with Verizon's crappy cell phones that they put out along with the crappy software every single one of there phones run. They block everything so you are not able to do anything cool and awesome to the phone. If I know Verizon they are not going to want you or let you do anything to there android phone that might give you something for free. So rooting a phone lets you do so much to a phone like teather, which verizon will block in a heart beat cause they want to charge you an additional $15 to let you do that. Verizon also only lets you use 5gigs of data before they start charging you extra (overage fees). Verizon also has there own apps store which they will make you use. Read this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/verizon-to-its-smartphones-thou-shalt-have-no-other-app-store-b/
I have switched to Tmobile and I dont regret it I never look back. I love my G1, I love the things I am able to do with it. I dont know where you live but I am not in the Phx area, I am in a 2G area and I always have 3 or 4 bars. And data out here even for 2G its not that bad.
Last Verizon is like Microsoft they hate anything Open Source they will do anything to Kill Open Source. They want there dirty little hands on everything you do on there network/product.
Hope this helped.
Anyone know wat was there test phone?
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Motorola Droid by all accounts.
More here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/174219
it can't "just be on verizon" this is ANDROID 2.0 ECLAIR - which should be available to ALL "google experience" android users OTA from their carriers.
ps - too bad the moto droid is a FUGLY BEAST - WHAT IS THAT EXTRA PIECE THTAT STICKS OUT THE BOTTOM AND CURVES UP WITH VERIZON WRITTEN ON IT? WHY DOES IT EVEN EXIST? The phone is HORRENDOUSLY designed, and i literally want to throw it against the concrete as hard as I can everytime i see pics of it.
FUGLY.
BEAST.
Thread should be moved...but HAVE YOU SEEN the broadcast tv commercials for the motorola DROID? Totally pwns the Iphone
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Wow, you are all quite against Verizon, huh? I've been with T-Mobile now about 15 years, but they still do not have very good service when I am here in my house. I have to fight to get more than 1 bar, and when I do I need to stand in one spot and not move or my call drops, 3G is a joke here too. In using a Verizon phone the past few days it has 2-3 bars here in my house, and no issues with data. I have considered moving over since they are offering up that Android phone in the next few days, but if you are saying that it will be limited badly I will not go.
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Outside of major metro areas Tmob can be lacking in towers, i live about 30mins outside of philadelphia and tmob is great, but 20 mins down the road its gprs only, some areas are edge, so they have upgrades yet to do.
Verizions tech. Was upgradeable to 3g where gsm needed more expensive equip. To go 3g, but the switch to 3.5/4g will be easier for gsm than the wcdma towers.
In more rural areas around here verizion has very good service.
Philly metro was one of the first few tmob areas to go 3g, but at my house I still suffer with 9600baud gprs, its just a tad faster than my old 2400baud amiga modem strapped to my brown C=64(i think i just gave away my age)
There is tons of info on cell tech, google it.
Bhang
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Philly metro was one of the first few tmob areas to go 3g, but at my house I still suffer with 9600baud gprs, its just a tad faster than my old 2400baud amiga modem strapped to my brown C=64(i think i just gave away my age)
Bhang
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Don't feel bad, I am right there with ya! Remember Mach5 or the Fast Boot carts? lol C-64 was a fun machine. load "*" ,8,1
Can't wait to try put a Droid and see what it can do.
Tom
I have been looking and looking but i cannot find anything. All i can find is the Blackberry Torch but i would like to stay here on XDA. I have had the Nexus one and i really dont want it again.
The Samsung Captivate just doesnt stand out to me. Its just like the N1 and is to big IMO. I really like the Desire Z but its T-mobile, so what are my choices here? I want something new that is not an Iphone with Android.
Dude, Moto Flipout. Case closed.
good day.
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Dude, Moto Flipout. Case closed.
good day.
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No thats to small i wouldnt even be able to use 3g then
htc Desire @D what about the motorola droid x?! sorry dont know much about at&t since I live in the uk
ATT oversold
The problem is not the phone it is the carrier. They oversold the bandwidth on the 3g-net and That is why I do not have them anymore. They kick you down to 2g all the time and in the west where I am they are King of dropped calls That is why i am on T Mobile. They have problems but my connection it typically 2.5mb download and 1.5 up on average
I have to agree with oka1. Not only do they kick you down to 2g, they charge you for chunks of data instead of an unlimited plan. And after the exclusive contract with Apple dries up, I don't know how much longer they can stick around.
If anything, stay away from the crackberry. Worst selling phone in the history of smartphones (besides the Kin lol)
Honestly, if you are in-between contracts, I'd switch. T-Mobile has a lot of good things going for it (HSXPA compatible with ALL 3g phones, unlimited data, flexpay plans, etc), and it's still considered one of the smallest carriers in the US. And, let's not forget how the G1 debuted on T-Mobile
If you're the patient type, I'd wait until AT LEAST December to purchase a new phone, as anything you buy now will be obsolete by January (what with all the craze about dual-core processors up to 1.5 GHz).
I haven't had any problems with speed or dropped calls with the Tilt 2. I've had it for about 3 months now, first tilt before that no probs either.
But like the others here have said, a lot of it depends on your location.
Ugh I just bought the Moto Bionic yesterday and I am already unhappy with it compared to my Samsung Charge. The overall speed of the phone is great( doing basic task not requiring the internet, but when I start searching from the Android Market or trying to search the internet, it takes forever to load anything. Second, the reception is awful, I would get full bars and 4gLTE all the time with the Samsung Charge at the house, but now using the Moto Bionic it gets maybe 1 bar and switches between 3g and 4g within the Houston area. I also have been having issues of just loading the android market, sometimes it literally wont load or Ill try and download an app and it will get stuck on downloading and not actually install the app. The having a locked bootloader does not help Moto's cause. I hate the bloatware that comes on phones and I should have the option if I want that crap or not. My Samsung Charge shows similar results in speed when Rooted and running PBJT/CWM7/ and Gummy Charged. I am returning the phone today also because the verizon sales rep lied to my mom and said she was not permitted to the trade in old phone for smart phone 100$ gift card. I am going back to the Charge today, Good luck on the bootloader! if y'all do decrypt it Ill be glad to jump back to this phone just for the processing power and to see what the Devs can do with so much power.
call verizon customer service,and explain to them whats going on and they will help you more then the store will.
Bleh... 1 day? Really? How can you really judge a phone completely after one day?
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I took your advice and called support. They said I just need to go to the store and put everything back to how it was, and it would cost me 35$ restocking fee, but maybe theyd be lenient to me because the sales person lied....
well my main issue was the sales rep said I was not eligible for the 100$ gift card bc he wanted the sale instead of me ordering it off their website, I guess I should have checked the website for my mom but she came home and said she wanted a new phone. So I am also returning it to get that 100$ gift card for my mom. and plus read what I wrote about it, Ive been playing with the phone all day. I also don't like the fact that it has a locked bootloader. Hopefully they will drop the encryption on the bootloader so the devs can have fun. The Samsung Charge is a badass phone too!
Bars are not a good indicator. Also the Bionic has 4 bars and not 5 like the Charge so you are not comparing Apples to Apples. I just cam from the Charge and noticed the same thing However speeds are the same and actually my uploads are consistently faster. I was on the fence big time. While I was at the store 4 people came in with Charges that were burning through SIM cards and Verizon doesn't know why. The Charge is a good phone I think you'll be happy either way.
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well my main issue was the sales rep said I was not eligible for the 100$ gift card bc he wanted the sale instead of me ordering it off their website, I guess I should have checked the website for my mom but she came home and said she wanted a new phone. So I am also returning it to get that 100$ gift card for my mom.
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The $100 trade in is valid in store as well online. However to qualify you must be upgrading from a feature phone to a smart phone, not smart phone to smart phone. Fine print is your best friend! Also if you are using an upgrade from another line(alternate upgrade), you will most likely not qualify.
No one lied to you, but your Rep did fail to explain the program properly.
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Bleh... 1 day? Really? How can you really judge a phone completely after one day?
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When the HP Touchpad launched, I picked one up on launch day, took it home charged it and returned it after 5 hours. Not a phone, but...
I didn't want to "setup my accounts" on the floor model...I had to take it home.
Ironically I not only feel the Bionic has better reception I can prove it. Both my wife, and a buddy at work have Charges and there's a night and day difference with the quality of radios.
Not saying the Charge is not a great phone, its just not as good when it comes to connectivity.
I feel there might be something wrong with your Bionic
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Tornlogic said:
Ironically I not only feel the Bionic has better reception I can prove it. Both my wife, and a buddy at work have Charges and there's a night and day difference with the quality of radios.
Not saying the Charge is not a great phone, its just not as good when it comes to connectivity.
I feel there might be something wrong with your Bionic
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I tend to agree with this post. The Bionic radio is leaps ahead of both the Samsung and HTC 4g LTE devices. I don't know anyone with an LG Revolution so I can't comment on that one.
I actually find HTC (Thunderbolt) to have the better radio as opposed to the Droid Bionic. LG Revolution was the best to me hands down. Best reception everywhere. Consistent LTE everywhere I went.
Cnt5189 said:
Ugh I just bought the Moto Bionic yesterday and I am already unhappy with it compared to my Samsung Charge. The overall speed of the phone is great( doing basic task not requiring the internet, but when I start searching from the Android Market or trying to search the internet, it takes forever to load anything. Second, the reception is awful, I would get full bars and 4gLTE all the time with the Samsung Charge at the house, but now using the Moto Bionic it gets maybe 1 bar and switches between 3g and 4g within the Houston area. I also have been having issues of just loading the android market, sometimes it literally wont load or Ill try and download an app and it will get stuck on downloading and not actually install the app. The having a locked bootloader does not help Moto's cause. I hate the bloatware that comes on phones and I should have the option if I want that crap or not. My Samsung Charge shows similar results in speed when Rooted and running PBJT/CWM7/ and Gummy Charged. I am returning the phone today also because the verizon sales rep lied to my mom and said she was not permitted to the trade in old phone for smart phone 100$ gift card. I am going back to the Charge today, Good luck on the bootloader! if y'all do decrypt it Ill be glad to jump back to this phone just for the processing power and to see what the Devs can do with so much power.
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Bars are not any kind of indicator of signal strength. Use the DB to see that and in my studies it is actually the best of the LTE crop thus far. (No shock since Motorola always does this) Bootloader I understand and the rest of the issues aren't known Bionic issues from what I have read and it sounds like problems with your google account or something.
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I actually find HTC (Thunderbolt) to have the better radio as opposed to the Droid Bionic. LG Revolution was the best to me hands down. Best reception everywhere. Consistent LTE everywhere I went.
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Don't use the bars as judgement they are wrong use actual signal strength. After seeing all the LTE phones in action Bionic has the lowest DB by leaps and bounds..
DO a factory data reset before you judge the handset. There is some bad juju in your phone and this will purge it.
RMD
I haven't been all that happy with the Bionic to date either, but it's not due to reception. I have issues with the screen (my first Pentile experience, and it sucks), battery (had to get the extended battery, now my phone's a fat a**), camera quality and shutter speed is awful and lastly no CM7 support.
I went from Sprint/EVO to the Bionic, and while I was frustrated with the Sprint service and coverage, I was happy with the EVO. I had it setup perfectly, it ran great and I miss the camera.
The Bionic on LTE is 3 to 5 times faster than the top speeds I was able to accomplish on Sprint's network, but I'm missing the better camera and form factor of the EVO.
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I actually find HTC (Thunderbolt) to have the better radio as opposed to the Droid Bionic. LG Revolution was the best to me hands down. Best reception everywhere. Consistent LTE everywhere I went.
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Hopefully you are judging via Settings -> About phone -> Network -> Signal Strength, rather than via BARS and coverage indicator on the home screen.
Of all the feature phones and smart phones I have, Moto has been consistently been the best at pulling signal (comparing RSSI values, not "bars"), Samsung the worst, and LG somewhere lower than middle (there have been one or two exceptions to this).
If the Thunderbolt (which I have) gives better reception than the Bionic (should be here today or tomorrow), I will be shocked. Especially because my TB isn't as good pulling 3G/EVDO signals as even my HTC Incredible. And my Droid X and original Droid pulls better signal than the Incredible.
NOTE: RSSI values are measured in -dBm so the more negative, the worse the signal. And it is logarithmic, not linear, so the difference between -93 dBm and -94 dBm is greater than the difference between -70 dBm and -71 dBm.
devikta said:
I haven't been all that happy with the Bionic to date either, but it's not due to reception. I have issues with the screen (my first Pentile experience, and it sucks), battery (had to get the extended battery, now my phone's a fat a**), camera quality and shutter speed is awful and lastly no CM7 support.
I went from Sprint/EVO to the Bionic, and while I was frustrated with the Sprint service and coverage, I was happy with the EVO. I had it setup perfectly, it ran great and I miss the camera.
The Bionic on LTE is 3 to 5 times faster than the top speeds I was able to accomplish on Sprint's network, but I'm missing the better camera and form factor of the EVO.
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The stock camera app blows, common knowledge.
Camera itself is fine.
The battery lasts a good 15-18 hours light use. And should do 10-12 heavy use.
While the screen isn't the best color wise, it sure has good power draw.
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The stock camera app blows, common knowledge.
Camera itself is fine.
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Sorry for the noob question, but what's a better alternative camera app for the Bionic?
Agreed, i got my bionic the day it came out and i too was a little apprehensive at the laggyness for certain apps but now having it for a few weeks i have used the force and tweaked this beast into something extraordinary and am very happy indeed.
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Im rocking -76dBm 0 asu. I guess it is a whole lot better than judging bars, I see what you mean. Im kind of a phone noob but coming to great understanding with the device, Im keeping the Bionic hoping for the unlocked bootloader! cross your fingers!
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I actually find HTC (Thunderbolt) to have the better radio as opposed to the Droid Bionic. LG Revolution was the best to me hands down. Best reception everywhere. Consistent LTE everywhere I went.
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I have both the Thunderbolt and Bionic. Side by side the Bionic gets better connection and download speeds. I have tested them again and again with same results....
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Hey guys How everyone doing?
I see that you guys dont got a Q&A Section over here, so I decided to drop this here. Today i'm heading over to the store to switch from Sprint to Verizon.Needless to say Sprint service has only gotten worse over the years. Been with them for almost 10 years now (be 10 yrs in Janurary). AnyWhoo, I got a couple of questions for you guys, pretty straight forward, and Sorry in advance if this was the wrong place for this. But basically im coming from the EVO 3D (EVO 4G Previous to that) and I understand that the Razor is being released in early November, But I need to switch today cause between the TErrible 3G, and Data and such, I need my phone for work. My Co-Worker has Verizon and tells me that his Data coverage is amazing. So im thinking of picking up the Bionic, seeing that its the latest and greatest out right now on Verizon, But Ive been reading around for the past 24hrs that alot of people have there 3G/4G signal just cut off. Now I dont really lose my 3G (5 miles north of Boston) here, but the data speeds are just so slow that I cant really do anything most of the time. I got ROOT and all of that good stuff of course, but trying all the different Tweaks and Radios and such can only help so much. So my Question is, Is the Bionic Plagued with losing its 3G/4G signal out of no where constantly? I figured I'd ask you guys before I did anything today. Thats the one thing that worrys the most. Of course im also worried about root and such, cause over at the EVO 3D DEV section we got some great DEVin going on right now, But I really gotta focus on more important things than that right now. Any advice would be great fellas! I really appreciate it, and once again SORRY if this was put in the wrong place
Jon
I refuse to read this until you break some of this up into paragraphs....this is ridiculous.
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WOW.....Gee thanks for the help Brotha!!! that was so helpful in many ways. DO you really have that much trouble reading it? Jesus, DO you want me to add 10 periods between each word LOL?
I like my Bionic and all (and the coverage is certainly better than the ATT garbage I came from) but I would recommend seriously considering the Nexus Prime. (Screw the RAZR.) If you've been with Sprint for a decade, are you sure that you absolutely cannot wait another 2-4 weeks for a clean, unlockable phone?
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I like my Bionic and all (and the coverage is certainly better than the ATT garbage I came from) but I would recommend seriously considering the Nexus Prime. (Screw the RAZR.) If you've been with Sprint for a decade, are you sure that you absolutely cannot wait another 2-4 weeks for a clean, unlockable phone?
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well that was my original intention. But the one thing i was worried about was AVAILABILITY for the galaxy nexus. I figured id would have to be a member of verizon in order to pre-order the nexus. So I thought maybe ill get the bionic for now until the galaxy nexus came out. But things with sprint has just gotten to bad lately. Its a tough decision, but now u got me second guessing LOL. that may be the best thing i think. Thanks for the feedback!!!
This is just my experience, but I have noticed the data has been dropping a lot lately. I lost data yesterday, but after I turned the phone on the off it came back.
My only issue with doing that is when I power down & restart I lose apps, which gets old. Then I have to download all again.
Its frustrating paying $110+ a month for something that loses data & forces me to reinstall apps.
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In. my opinion the bionic is a dirty phone and would recommend it to anyone the data is blazing fast and I very rarely have any data drops and I have to be in the middle of nowhere for that to happen. And with the fact that you can't add an extended battery to the razr this phone is just plain better.
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In. my opinion the bionic is a dirty phone and would recommend it to anyone the data is blazing fast and I very rarely have any data drops and I have to be in the middle of nowhere for that to happen. And with the fact that you can't add an extended battery to the razr this phone is just plain better.
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But the data drops aren't from spotty network, they're from a goofy radio. So, to me that is a toss-up. You can live in a prime coverage area, like me, and still have issues. The upcoming patch is supposed to fix the problem on all phones, but I will believe it when I see it. MOT has already backpedaled on the bootloader issue, so I would not be surprised to see them do so on a 100% radio fix.
As I said, I would not even consider the RAZR. I replaced the battery on my iPhone six times (no kidding), so the idea of not being able to swap a batt without disassembling the handset drives me nuts, even if it does take less than 10 minutes.
If you are able to get a Bionic now and trade to a Prime when they come out, then you really have nothing to lose. For someone who does not have that option, though, waiting a few extra weeks would be advisable IMO.
Another vote for waiting for the Galaxy Nexus. I really like my Bionic, but Motorola has already said, by releasing the Razr, that the Bionic isn't its priority anymore, and given the number of issues many are having with the phone and the locked bootloader, I'm tempted to say that if you can wait and get the GNex, you should. My 14 days ran out before the GNex was announced, but otherwise, I would've made the jump.
Also, skip the Razr altogether. It's a slightly improved Bionic with no user-replaceable battery. Don't bother.
I made the switch from Sprint to Verizon in July (to lock in the unlimited data plan - had to pay an ETF for that but it was worth it - I had an Evo 4G). Service and speeds are amazing, but as other posters have stated, I get the data drops like once a day. Usually, a flip to Airplane mode and back fixes the problem. I am sure it is bad radio code, not a bad network.
I started with a Droid Charge through Costco with the hope of being able to swap it out for the Bionic. As luck would have it, Costco eagerly replaced the Charge with a Bionic for both me and my wife because the Charge had such crappy bluetooth that would drop all the time for many of their customers. There was no argument when we went back in.
Now Bionic: I love the Webtop mode and for that reason would probably stick with Motorola, but my work may be different than yours. I'm typically in an office setting that has a lot of network lockdowns. Having a 'second computer' over which my employer has no control is very nice.
My concerns regarding the Nexus are two-fold: 1) I don't know if they will use the same crappy file system that they used on the Charge or if Google had complete control over the software down to that level of detail. It could also be that ICS uses a whole new file system - I just don't know - I am only pointing it out as an area I would research if I were making the same purchase decision as you are.
2) Development for the Charge was limited. With Google's impending purchase of Moto, I expect accelerated development on Moto products.
Finally, with regards to the Razr: Cool, but no replaceable battery means no battery pulls when things go wrong. I stand taller than 4'8" so an extra 5mm of phone thickness in my pocket is not an issue.
Hi Jon,
I've had EVERY carrier over the past few years, and I can say, Verizon is by far the best. In todays day in age where data is everything... Verizon brings it. Even 3G I would still sometimes get 1.5mbps, and now with LTE 4G, its amazing.
The price of Verizon is kind of "Eh" but, when I'm sitting on the Naval base (which gets horrific signal) and I can still pull 10-15mbps down, I can say I'm one happy guy.
The only thing that concerns me about Verizon is their policies on things, ie: Bootloaders, Rooting, etc. If I were you. I'd wait until the Nexus becomes available. If you go on craigslist, there are people willing to sell their old phone PLAN to you, as in those old unlimited data ones. HIGHLY suggest going there. I have had friends do that recently with NO issues.
Either way, As much as I love Sprint's phones (EVO 3D being OC'ed to 1.8Ghz) Verizon's reception is incredible nationwide If you have any questions, PM me!
I just realized that I neglected to address your real question. I recently switched from AT&T to Verizon, and the difference in network has been night and day. I went from getting 100kbps down on a good day with AT&T to consistently getting 500kbps+ with 4GLTE, and I've only dropped one call in the month+ I've had the phone. Switching to Verizon was among my better decisions I've made lately.
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Another vote for waiting for the Galaxy Nexus. I really like my Bionic, but Motorola has already said, by releasing the Razr, that the Bionic isn't its priority anymore, and given the number of issues many are having with the phone and the locked bootloader, I'm tempted to say that if you can wait and get the GNex, you should. My 14 days ran out before the GNex was announced, but otherwise, I would've made the jump.
Also, skip the Razr altogether. It's a slightly improved Bionic with no user-replaceable battery. Don't bother.
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I believe the Bionic is still a priority. They're advertising it during NFL games that it comes with free NFL network. The average user doesn't really care about a lot of what we talk about on here. Some people will prefer the bulk of the Bionic, and others will prefer the Razr.
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I would definitely recommend waiting for both the razr and galaxy nexus to be released, then going to the store and giving 5 minutes to each phone. I like my bionic, but I regret not examining it more closely before buying it. But with that being said, the battery life on this is amazing with the extended battery, and that is a critical factor for most. How would you like to have a droid razr that only lasts half a day? Sure it looks pretty, but what's the point if it's off half the time. As for the galaxy nexus, samsung is on fire now, so I have no doubt that it'll be the best phone you can have.
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Hey guys How everyone doing?
I see that you guys dont got a Q&A Section over here, so I decided to drop this here. Today i'm heading over to the store to switch from Sprint to Verizon.Needless to say Sprint service has only gotten worse over the years. Been with them for almost 10 years now (be 10 yrs in Janurary). AnyWhoo, I got a couple of questions for you guys, pretty straight forward, and Sorry in advance if this was the wrong place for this. But basically im coming from the EVO 3D (EVO 4G Previous to that) and I understand that the Razor is being released in early November, But I need to switch today cause between the TErrible 3G, and Data and such, I need my phone for work. My Co-Worker has Verizon and tells me that his Data coverage is amazing. So im thinking of picking up the Bionic, seeing that its the latest and greatest out right now on Verizon, But Ive been reading around for the past 24hrs that alot of people have there 3G/4G signal just cut off. Now I dont really lose my 3G (5 miles north of Boston) here, but the data speeds are just so slow that I cant really do anything most of the time. I got ROOT and all of that good stuff of course, but trying all the different Tweaks and Radios and such can only help so much. So my Question is, Is the Bionic Plagued with losing its 3G/4G signal out of no where constantly? I figured I'd ask you guys before I did anything today. Thats the one thing that worrys the most. Of course im also worried about root and such, cause over at the EVO 3D DEV section we got some great DEVin going on right now, But I really gotta focus on more important things than that right now. Any advice would be great fellas! I really appreciate it, and once again SORRY if this was put in the wrong place
Jon
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The radio CAN go wonky, but it seems to be only when you are in a mediocre LTE area or otherwise are switching between LTE and CDMA connections. If stability is more important to you than speed, I've found that if I set my radio mode to CDMA only, the connection is rock solid. As an added plus, the battery lasts MUCH longer without the LTE radio going!
EDIT: Also, the speed is very acceptable, even on 3G/CDMA. I had a Sprint Photon 4G and 3G throughput often didn't break 200Kbps in either direction. With my Bionic, i regularly get 600Kbps+.
Dude I've had the same dilemma. After my fiasco with Epic 4g Touch with terrible reception and slow internet (where my EVO was doing just fine) I left Sprint and signed my soul out to Verizon.
I also couldn't wait for Galaxy Nexus which I'm gonna get eventually.
Now. I didn't want to get an expensive temporary phone so I went for LG Revolution. God I'm glad they have that 14 days exchange policy. What a piece of junk.
So now I've got Bionic and I'm temporarily happy.
Now the important stuff.
I drive truck all over the country and all I can say about Verizon coverage is wow. I don't know what a dropped call is and I can watch Hulu almost everywhere.
The infamous LOS happened to me every now and then on that POS Revolution (Stock unrooted). Now I read that this is happening on Bionic too. So it must be the network problem then. Nothing we can do about that I'm afraid.
It didn't happen yet on my new Bionic but I've gotten it 2 days ago.
Rooted and de-bloated today so we'll see.
BTW. I don't believe Galaxy Nexus will come out according to leaks. (11.10)
Similar leak said Motorola Razr will come before (10.27) and now it's for pre-order on VZ website saying "Will ship by 11.10.11.
I think Galaxy Nexus will follow that pattern and it will go on pre-order 11.10 and will start to ship 2-3 weeks from that date.
But I would be more than thrilled if I'm being wrong.
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Hey guys How everyone doing?
I see that you guys dont got a Q&A Section over here, so I decided to drop this here. Today i'm heading over to the store to switch from Sprint to Verizon.Needless to say Sprint service has only gotten worse over the years. Been with them for almost 10 years now (be 10 yrs in Janurary). AnyWhoo, I got a couple of questions for you guys, pretty straight forward, and Sorry in advance if this was the wrong place for this. But basically im coming from the EVO 3D (EVO 4G Previous to that) and I understand that the Razor is being released in early November, But I need to switch today cause between the TErrible 3G, and Data and such, I need my phone for work. My Co-Worker has Verizon and tells me that his Data coverage is amazing. So im thinking of picking up the Bionic, seeing that its the latest and greatest out right now on Verizon, But Ive been reading around for the past 24hrs that alot of people have there 3G/4G signal just cut off. Now I dont really lose my 3G (5 miles north of Boston) here, but the data speeds are just so slow that I cant really do anything most of the time. I got ROOT and all of that good stuff of course, but trying all the different Tweaks and Radios and such can only help so much. So my Question is, Is the Bionic Plagued with losing its 3G/4G signal out of no where constantly? I figured I'd ask you guys before I did anything today. Thats the one thing that worrys the most. Of course im also worried about root and such, cause over at the EVO 3D DEV section we got some great DEVin going on right now, But I really gotta focus on more important things than that right now. Any advice would be great fellas! I really appreciate it, and once again SORRY if this was put in the wrong place
Jon
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The 27th was always the pre-order date for the RAZR, a few sites got it confused.
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Dude I've had the same dilemma. After my fiasco with Epic 4g Touch with terrible reception and slow internet (where my EVO was doing just fine) I left Sprint and signed my soul out to Verizon.
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Same for me with the Samsung epic 4g touch. Just crap of a phone samsucks when it comes to udates on their firmware even my wife has the nexus s great software updates. Horrible firmware and software fixes from Samsung. Galaxy nexus will suffer from samsungs lack of updates for fixes and issues. Look at the Droid charge. I just switched from sprint 2 weeks ago and took over someones unlimited plan and bought my bionic happy now
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The 27th was always the pre-order date for the RAZR, a few sites got it confused.
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The leak shows the release date for Razr as 10.27.11 (Engadget) and it became available for pre-order that date. (or was it 29th?) the same way it shows release date for Galaxy Nexus as 11.10.11.
By way of extrapolation, Galaxy Nexus will be availale for pre-order 11.10.11.
And again, I'd LOVE to be wrong.
I've heard of this and it finally hit me about two weeks ago. After about a week of being on unofficial .905 with a motofail root my 4G stopped. I tried progressive measures until finally just doing a factory reset and flashing stock .902. After that still no 4G. Then I let the phone stock update to .905, still no 4G (i mean literally never and I live right next to a strong Verizon 4G tower.
After the .905 update i tried pulling the sim and then rebooting, changing Android ID with Titanium, then reinstalling sim while subsequent reboot was ongoing. After doing this twice I got 4G with full bars for about ten minutes before going back to 3G. After that I could never get 4G again no matter what.
So last night I updated to the ICS 33 build hoping for a change. Nothing. I did a clear data and change Android ID, pulled sim a million different ways. It's just not going to happen for me. This phone has never been wet, abused, or had a custom ROM, btw.
So i called Verizon this morning and here is where my question comes in. I was honest with then on all that I've done to the phone and their basic response was: "we know the Bionic has an LTE issue and will send you another free at no cost right now." That's pretty awesome, but I'm now worrying about protecting the phone from losing LTE ability again. I really like the ICS leak and want to install it as soon as I get the new phone, but I don't want anymore LTE problems.
Are there any strong theories on why this happens? Anything to avoid? I'm leaning toward thinking it may be a hardware thing affecting a certain batch and then convoluted by the refurb tendencies of the day. Does that sound logical?
On a side note, if anyone has something they want tested let me know. I can do it to the 4G crapped phone before returning.
I had an issue with one Bionic where the 4G drivers kept disappearing, and then finally one day never came back. They replaced my phone. It happened once on my new phone when I first had it, but hasn't occurred since. I personally think the 4G radio gets burned out and shuts down, but have no way of proving it.
Insane! Just got done doing done housework and now i have LTE; the usual 4-5 bars.
I am now thoroughly confused. It hasn't worked once in over a week.
So now i get to see how the battery on 2233 holds up with LTE. Running 905 with 3G only was a treat in that one respect. I was getting 33 hours typically. That's with checking news and Facebook like 30 times a day, at least a call an hour, steady Wordfued games, Bluetooth/GPS on all the time.
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So now i get to see how the battery on 2233 holds up with LTE. Running 905 with 3G only was a treat in that one respect. I was getting 33 hours typically. That's with checking news and Facebook like 30 times a day, at least a call an hour, steady Wordfued games, Bluetooth/GPS on all the time.
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You will love .2233!
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Lol, and i get a new phone now anyway. I did have a couple scratches in the old gorilla glass.
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The more i think about it the more fishy it sounds. My 4G was nonexistant for two weeks yet now it works great. I had been on 2233 for over 12 hours by that point and fine numerous reboots. Just convenient is all I'm saying.
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Ive been going through the LTE thing too. Called lvl2 tech today (nice guy cant say bad things about them) and about 40 minutes later i get Lte back...
on the phone he didnt know anything about known issues.. but.. he thought my area had a saturation issue.
I hadnt seen this thread before just now. All the pieces come together.
Im itching to move to ICS but am concerned about GPS reliability as i use mine for geocaching.
Im running the .230 leak still and have no issues at all. I havent moved to any newer leak for that reason. Im stable and everything seems to work.
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4G is not a Bionic issue
Verizon can say what they want - but the 4G issue is localized.
I travel a lot - from VA to PA frequently, and out to Denver regularly. A couple months ago 4G just went away (note that Richmond and Denver both have extensive 4G coverage).
I can get 4G in Newport News, VA, but not in Richmond, Denver, or anwhere between Richmond and PA (like DC or any of Eastern MD, or Delware). These are all places where I used to get 4G consistently.
I've tried multiple reboots. Nope - only place I now get 4G is Newport News. I also have firends/coworkers on Verizon (my company uses it), and NO ONE can get 4G in Richmond any more, on any phone.
My 4G cut out this morning in a certain area...I typically get 4G in that area and it is on an extended 4G coverage area. I noticed my phone lost 4G rather than switch over to 3G. I saw it go from blank to 1X to 3G and never recovered to 4G. I am currently in a 3G area atm and won't know if something's changed til i go home where I will pass thru the extended 4g then 4g.
In Boston I frequent a few areas and for over 2 WEEKS 4G would not function near one of my haunts. It used to be 4 bars and had decent speeds, then all of a sudden whenever I was in the area my phone would keep switching from 4G to 3G, but if I walked a couple blocks down the street I had a full 4G signal again and data worked perfectly. After the first week the problem became even worse, the phone would get stuck with a white 4G symbol and would keep toggling from white to blue but never got a connection and thus the only way I could use data in the area was to use wireless. Again if I walked a couple blocks down the street I had a full 4G signal and perfect data. Then one day the problem just went away.
I've heard similar stories from others around the country so it appears Verizon is having serious localized issues with some of the LTE towers. This happened in late June through the first week of July and I haven't experienced the problem since.
I should note I also did have the issue where 4G stopped working completely when I installed one of the leaked GB builds and the solution in that case was pulling the SIM card, rebooting, then replacing the SIM card and all worked again after about 10 minutes.
currently in middle of Fresno, CA and no 4g...
I had major 4G issues with my Thunderbolt.... I just bought a Bionic and now I am having the same issues.
Luke
I rebooted my phone in a 4G area this morning. The 4G icon popped up briefly and then quickly disappeared to the 3G icon. I never had 4G problems before and now this is happening. I am annoyed but not to the point where I need to switch phones.