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Nook Color Teardown

There's a gallery of NC teardown pics at zdnet. XDA isn't letting me post the link because i'm not verified, so maybe someone else can.
This was inevitable, but I hadn't been able to find it until today. I thought others might be interested as well.

http://www.zdnet.com/photos/nookcolor-teardown/487636 here it is
From the pictures I see a good possibility for a bigger battery, or even adding a second one. Lots of room, it won't be pretty but something could be fashioned to fit.

lionclaw said:
There's a gallery of NC teardown pics at zdnet. XDA isn't letting me post the link because i'm not verified, so maybe someone else can.
This was inevitable, but I hadn't been able to find it until today. I thought others might be interested as well.
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http://www.zdnet.com/photos/nookcolor-teardown/487636?tag=content;get-photo-roto
Looks good.

Nice to see some more details about the NC coming out, I have yet to find a *detailed* list of the real hardware specs though.. most of the "tech specs" list mention supported ebook formats...
I ordered one of these the other day via a relative in the US and hopefully will be getting it next week some time.
I will miss the haptic feedback though so am wondering if it will be possible to replace the useless mono speaker with a motor from a mobile phone or something..
/mrintegrity

Cool idea. But it'll only work for typing and maybe apps that have clicking sounds. Still, it should work just fine. Of course you'd have to attach it to the inside real tight. Duck tape won't do

devis said:
Cool idea. But it'll only work for typing and maybe apps that have clicking sounds. Still, it should work just fine. Of course you'd have to attach it to the inside real tight. Duck tape won't do
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Thanks, my mind is kinda running over with ideas actually
From the teardown pics the internals seem pretty basic and there is hopefully a good bit of space. I would love to know if there are any available usb / jtag / etc headers available though.
If not I was thinking also about the possibility of modifying the usb connector with a switch and a usb 3g dongle inside, I just don't know if there is a 3g dongle that is not based on mini pcie though.
As for the haptic feedback I guess you can just assign a "sound" to everything that should produce feedback.
What about the accellerometer, is that sufficient to control cars in steering wheel based games?
/mrintegrity

To answer your very last question yes.. I have Asphalt5 running and won my first race.

mrintegrity said:
Thanks, my mind is kinda running over with ideas actually
From the teardown pics the internals seem pretty basic and there is hopefully a good bit of space. I would love to know if there are any available usb / jtag / etc headers available though.
If not I was thinking also about the possibility of modifying the usb connector with a switch and a usb 3g dongle inside, I just don't know if there is a 3g dongle that is not based on mini pcie though.
As for the haptic feedback I guess you can just assign a "sound" to everything that should produce feedback.
What about the accellerometer, is that sufficient to control cars in steering wheel based games?
/mrintegrity
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The usb dongle would have to support android. To my knowledge there isn't one... but physically it is possible to stick it inside. They aren't that big, just look big cause of the plastic casing.
I think realistically, for now a bigger battery should be the first thing attempted, given the OS limitations we'd face with other mods. It would also allow us to run the NC at 800 mhz at all times via setcpu.
Sent from my NookColor

devis said:
... for now a bigger battery should be the first thing attempted, given the OS limitations we'd face with other mods. It would also allow us to run the NC at 800 mhz at all times via setcpu.
Sent from my NookColor
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Well, I haven't even got mine yet. I can see on the tracking page that it's "delivered" but my dad is away for the weekend so it will be monday before he even sends it to me! I am in Sweden so it will probably take another 5 days after that
/mr

norkoastal said:
To answer your very last question yes.. I have Asphalt5 running and won my first race.
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What version of Asphalt are you running? Does it stretch correctly or is it stupid and square in the middle?

isolated_epidemic said:
What version of Asphalt are you running? Does it stretch correctly or is it stupid and square in the middle?
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Hd for the Tab.. You'll need to install spare parts to toggle off compatibility mode to get fullscreen.

norkoastal said:
Hd for the Tab.. You'll need to install spare parts to toggle off compatibility mode to get fullscreen.
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Did you download from the Gameloft site? I couldnt get the version from my G2 to get past the license check, and the only other version I've tried is a pirated 3.13 version. I would be glad to pay for it if I knew it would work.
Tried disabling the compatibility mode and the top of the screen is blank and I have to press high to get selections to work.

EDIT: I figured it out. You have to load a version made for Samsung Galaxy Tab or Galaxy S. I downloaded a version from Gameloft.com with Galaxy Tab selected as my phone and the game displays fine. If you purchase from their website you have to do some trickery. When they text you a download link, just type the link address from your phone in a browser on the Nook Color and the download should start and install the game.
isolated_epidemic - I'm having the same issue as you with Asphalt, as well as some of the other GameLoft games. Does anyone have a solution for this?

[Q] Amazon AppStore wrong scale?

I did a search and couldn't find anything about this.
This drives me crazy. The Amazon AppStore has such tiny text and pictures, almost totally unusable without some reading glasses on. Ive compared what it looks like on the Note to the Galaxy Nexus (which has a very similar resolution) and it's displayed correctly on the latter.
Any tips or tricks to get it to look right? Is it just a bug with the app? Should I file a bug report to Amazon?
What it looks like compared to on the nexus:
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It's not really a bug per-say. Since the Galaxy Note has the same resolution as most tablets Amazon's app treats it as such. So it is technically displaying properly but since we have a 5.3 inch screen and not a 7-10in like on most android tablets we have to kinda squint our eyes. You could try reporting it to Amazon but I'm not sure if it will yield to anything.

GallardosEggrollShop said:
It's not really a bug per-say. Since the Galaxy Note has the same resolution as most tablets Amazon's app treats it as such.
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wtf are you talking about? amazons own kindle fire is 1024x600 vs 1280x720 on the galaxy nexus and i just showed you in a picture that it renders fine on the nexus. if the nexus is a special case then the note should also be a special case. you cannot go by resolution to determine the screen size. and this is the only app ive run into with this problem.

evil-doer said:
wtf are you talking about? amazons own kindle fire is 1024x600 vs 1280x720 on the galaxy nexus and i just showed you in a picture that it renders fine on the nexus. if the nexus is a special case then the note should also be a special case. you cannot go by resolution to determine the screen size. and this is the only app ive run into with this problem.
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is wtf really necessary? he was correct. it's by screen res. the nexus being a lower res means nothing. if anything it helps his argument.

rquinn19 said:
is wtf really necessary? he was correct. it's by screen res. the nexus being a lower res means nothing. if anything it helps his argument.
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Exactly...
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evil-doer said:
wtf are you talking about? amazons own kindle fire is 1024x600 vs 1280x720 on the galaxy nexus and i just showed you in a picture that it renders fine on the nexus. if the nexus is a special case then the note should also be a special case. you cannot go by resolution to determine the screen size. and this is the only app ive run into with this problem.
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This also happens with the Netflix app on the note.
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rquinn19 said:
is wtf really necessary? he was correct. it's by screen res. the nexus being a lower res means nothing. if anything it helps his argument.
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can you even read? how does that help his argument. he said a high res means its seen as a tablet. the galaxy nexus has a higher resolution than amazons own tablets. thats 100% opposite of what he is saying.
wtf indeed.

evil-doer said:
can you even read? how does that help his argument. he said a high res means its seen as a tablet. the galaxy nexus has a higher resolution than amazons own tablets. thats 100% opposite of what he is saying.
wtf indeed.
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The Marketplace installed on the Kindle Fire isn't the same as the one installed via the apk you can download.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWptYuPRd6o

evil-doer said:
can you even read? how does that help his argument. he said a high res means its seen as a tablet. the galaxy nexus has a higher resolution than amazons own tablets. thats 100% opposite of what he is saying.
wtf indeed.
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If you want people to help you, you really shouldn't be rude to people - especially those who aren't being rude to you. You don't have to agree with his answer, but being a jerk about it simply makes others not want to help you.
Programs have no idea how big your screen size is. They do, however, know your screen resolution. It is not unreasonable for programs to say, 'okay, you have this many pixels, I'm going to maximize use of them.'.
Now, as you noted, there is the issue where you can have an extremely high density display (imagine this on a 300+ dpi retina display). And of course, eyesight varies. Making 'phone exceptions' as you implied it's doing for the Nexus is possible but long term wise that's a bad way to go. You'd have to arbitrarily decide what people want for that device.
What they should do, like all programs should do, is have a 'font size' type of setting, so people like me can live happily the way it is now, and people like you can set it to the 'phone layout' that you want.
tl;dr: Log a enhancement request with Amazon.
- Frank

rquinn19 said:
The Marketplace installed on the Kindle Fire isn't the same as the one installed via the apk you can download.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWptYuPRd6o
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and? what? thats AGAIN not my point or related to my question or this argument. THE GALAXY NEXUS has a high resolution display similar to the note and has the same downloaded amazon market the note uses and displays it correctly.

Yeah the text is small. So what? Be happy us in the USA even have access to it. The free app a day is a great benefit.
When the ATT Note launches and its more common Amazon will get around to fixing it.
Enjoy.
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ChodTheWacko said:
If you want people to help you, you really shouldn't be rude to people - especially those who aren't being rude to you. You don't have to agree with his answer, but being a jerk about it simply makes others not want to help you.
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its kind of hard to keep my cool when people arent even reading what im saying, REPEATEDLY. saying "wtf" isnt being rude, its not name calling. YOU calling me a jerk, thats name calling.

evil-doer said:
its kind of hard to keep my cool when people arent even reading what im saying, REPEATEDLY. saying "wtf" isnt being rude, its not name calling. YOU calling me a jerk, thats name calling.
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I wasn't referring to that, I was referring to the 'Can you read?' question.
People are trying to help you, although it's obvious they are making some incorrect assumptions. Anyway, I have no further comments on this thread.
- Frank

ChodTheWacko said:
I wasn't referring to that, I was referring to the 'Can you read?' question.
People are trying to help you, although it's obvious they are making some incorrect assumptions.
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there were no assumptions needed, everything was in black and white to read.
this was a second person joining in that didnt read a damn thing. telling me off and saying im wrong. can you not see how this would aggravate me?
i really dont think theres any chance of either of these people helping me.

I think they were disagreeing with you, but not trying to be 'telling you off'. That's my opinion, however. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this.
You might be interested in knowing that earlier versions of the Amazon appstore used the 'phone interface' on the Galaxy note. If I recall, it was only fairly recently that an appstore update changed the store to 'tablet mode' on the Note.
I remember thinking 'oh.... wow. hmm' when it happened. I flirted e-mailing them a letter of protest, but I got used to it.
- Frank

evil-doer said:
wtf are you talking about? amazons own kindle fire is 1024x600 vs 1280x720 on the galaxy nexus and i just showed you in a picture that it renders fine on the nexus. if the nexus is a special case then the note should also be a special case. you cannot go by resolution to determine the screen size. and this is the only app ive run into with this problem.
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Why not? Other apps do - Netflix on the Note (as has been mentioned later), for example renders pretty much like my Galaxy Tab 10.1 - very different to the same app on my phone, and I think it is far better.
Whilst I appreciate the small scale of the Amazon AppStore may be a problem for some, personally I much prefer it. If they suddenly changed tomorrow to use the "phone" interface from the Nexus, I would be considering that to be an "issue", though I fully appreciate that the smaller size would definitely be a real problem for someone with less than perfect vision.
Personally, I think that GallardosEggrollShop was 100% correct when he said it was related to the resolution of the Note. The fact that it looks different on the Nexus is because they made a specific exception for the Nexus, but that doesn't change the general rule.
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Yeah the text is small. So what? Be happy us in the USA even have access to it. The free app a day is a great benefit.
When the ATT Note launches and its more common Amazon will get around to fixing it.
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Good point here - the Note has not be launched in the US, unlike the Nexus, so why would Amazon specifically code an exception for the Note, when the AppStore is not supposed to be available outside the US?
However, even when the AT&T Note is launched, it possibly won't be fixed because the AT&T device will likely identify itself differently to the regular international Note.
Regards,
Dave

I just installed the midnote ice cream sandwich rom (which is quite usable as a daily driver), and interestingly the appstore has revered back to the 'phone' interface.
I have kind of mixed feelings about this.
As I said in earlier posts, it would be nice to have the option of selecting.
- Frank

Moved To Q&A​
Please post all questions in the Q&A section​

Initial Impressions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bm2PLW_0-c&list=UU25TmsJidl31Hbf5PVckK8Q&index=1&feature=plcp
Plese check it out and let me know what you think.

good first impressions. surprised to see how well the nexus 7 screen looked when it was streaming the movie. UI looks very snappy. looking forward to your full video review. Right be a good idea to show off some tegra3 optimized games like Dead Trigger. also on how fast the stock chrome browser is.

Knether said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bm2PLW_0-c&list=UU25TmsJidl31Hbf5PVckK8Q&index=1&feature=plcp
Plese check it out and let me know what you think.
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I like the video. Simple enough to cover the basics of the tablet (screen, video, jellybean, etc.) and a simple comparison against the fire. The video didn't go too much in depth against the Fire but that'd be a separate video in itself.

Which rooting video was that you were talking about? Can't find one myself.

thebobp said:
Which rooting video was that you were talking about? Can't find one myself.
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This one maybe, I don't have my Nex7 yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q6uBd38hm0

Great video but its not identical to the phone layout. Email and contacts and many other Apps run in tablet mode.
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I got mine on Friday and love it fast, smooth, simply a beast.

blackhand1001 said:
Great video but its not identical to the phone layout. Email and contacts and many other Apps run in tablet mode.
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I did misspeak you are correct.
I'll be sure to bring that up!

I gave you a thumbs up! All these videos, I still cannot believe how snappy that tablet looks. Cannot wait until tomorrow.

Anyone find the tablet/Jellybean UI a pain?

Meaning the ergonomics, if you will, of having to reach to the top of the device for so many system and app functions.
The design makes no sense to me.
If most of us hold devices with our thumbs at the bottom of the device,why aren't most all features functions and controls positioned at the bottom?
Compared to my Galaxy Note...this is a relative pain to use.

It's a 7" tablet not a phone...what do you expect?

Just grow extra long thumbs... chicks dig it.

Montaberne said:
Just grow extra long thumbs... chicks dig it.
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This ^

The problem is we DON'T have a tablet JB UI. What we have stock, is a PHONE JB UI, the (almost) same one as Galaxy Nexus. People have been rooting to change (lower) the LCD density, which forces the N7 to give us the table UI. See this
This is stupid on Google's end. They should have given us the tablet UI out of the box. We want a TABLET! Not a 7" phone that doesn't make phone calls!

ikeny said:
The problem is we DON'T have a tablet JB UI. What we have stock, is a PHONE JB UI, the (almost) same one as Galaxy Nexus. People have been rooting to change (lower) the LCD density, which forces the N7 to give us the table UI.
This is stupid on Google's end. They should have given us the tablet UI out of the box. We don't want a 7" phone that doesn't make phone calls!
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Why do people keep saying this, or at the least stating it this way?
Only the launcher is in this phone-type mode. The apps remain the same as their tablet counterparts.
rockky said:
Meaning the ergonomics, if you will, of having to reach to the top of the device for so many system and app functions.
The design makes no sense to me.
If most of us hold devices with our thumbs at the bottom of the device,why aren't most all features functions and controls positioned at the bottom?
Compared to my Galaxy Note...this is a relative pain to use.
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Tablets are typically meant to be held with one hand, and operated with the other. I'm not quite sure what you mean entirely, but you are not supposed to operate a tablet device using solely your thumbs.

Eclair~ said:
Why do people keep saying this, or at the least stating it this way?
Only the launcher is in this phone-type mode. The apps remain the same as their tablet counterparts.
Tablets are typically meant to be held with one hand, and operated with the other. I'm not quite sure what you mean entirely, but you are not supposed to operate a tablet device using solely your thumbs.
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This.
On a 7 inch "tablet", use of portrait mode is much more common. As such, the presentation of the phone UI probably made more sense for Google, as opposed to the tablet UI.
Regardless, devs are hard at work to let you use the tablet UI without changing the DPI.

The launcher isn't exactly the phone style, either. The Android people are calling it the hybrid UI. Basically, you can't just use the same UI you would use on a 10" tablet in a 7" tablet.

Eclair~ said:
Why do people keep saying this, or at the least stating it this way?
Only the launcher is in this phone-type mode. The apps remain the same as their tablet counterparts.
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It's not just the launcher. The notification area, and the layout of the Setting page, are different in the tablet mode.
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aristurtle said:
The launcher isn't exactly the phone style, either. The Android people are calling it the hybrid UI. Basically, you can't just use the same UI you would use on a 10" tablet in a 7" tablet.
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I, for one, much much rather use the UI for a 10" than this hybrid UI for my N7.

ikeny said:
It's not just the launcher. The notification area, and the layout of the Setting page, are different in the tablet mode.
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I know, I should have specified this as well.
Though, it is just starting to annoy me that people keep calling the Nexus 7 a giant phone of sorts, when the apps you download from the market are the same exact tablet apps you will be getting on larger devices. As long as developers recognize 7" as a tablet device - you will not be getting the layout of a phone app on the Nexus 7. Calling it a giant phone is not a correct way to describe this, and is an obvious dramatization of this entire setup.

Eclair~ said:
Why do people keep saying this, or at the least stating it this way?
Only the launcher is in this phone-type mode. The apps remain the same as their tablet counterparts.
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Indeed.

I personally love the "Hybrid" UI I feel like it works and looks great. Wouldent change anything other then adding Nova Launcher for Landscape when I need it on the homescreen
Sent from my Nexus 7

str8killinya said:
I personally love the "Hybrid" UI I feel like it works and looks great. Wouldent change anything other then adding Nova Launcher for Landscape when I need it on the homescreen
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Same, although the stock launcher is much better IMHO then nova.
When nova merges all the jellybean changes I will switch back
The only thing that bugs me about the N7 is landscape is really wonky having the buttons in the center.
It would be awesome if you flipped to landscape it turned into the 10" ui

The apps don't always remain the same as the tablet counter part. See screenshot of our Play Store app after forcing N7 to tablet mode.

Eclair~ said:
Though, it is just starting to annoy me that people keep calling the Nexus 7 a giant phone of sorts, when the apps you download from the market are the same exact tablet apps you will be getting on larger devices.
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It was only excusable before the Hybrid UI's features were announced. I actually had the largest thread regarding the "phone" UI. Now that I have a Nexus 7, I'm all for Hybrid UI. It just feels right.

Tablet ui is great.
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Does the tablet automatically switch to tablet ui if the dpi is set to like 160?

Caliyork said:
Does the tablet automatically switch to tablet ui if the dpi is set to like 160?
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Short answer: YES
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749501

I use the keyboard a LOT....so end up using in portrait much more than landscape because it's much easier to use the keyboard from there. ALL of the Google apps and MANY other apps have their menu/settings icon is at the top right of the device.
If I'm lead designer?....everything is at the bottom.

I guess I'm banking on ParanoidAndroid porting over.... Allows a bit of app to app customization of this stuff

[Q] TF701 - old launcher?

Hey all. I was wondering if the TF701 has the ability to change launcher to the one seen on the TF300 (notifications and time bottom right hand side)? I have seen images of the former on Asus' site with both launchers, but I cannot figure out how to get it to use the TF300 layout (which I prefer). Any help would be appreciated
PS: I have tried to attach some screenshots from the Asus website showing what I mean. This may be explainable but I am in no way a techie so bear with me

Aclam said:
Hey all. I was wondering if the TF701 has the ability to change launcher to the one seen on the TF300 (notifications and time bottom right hand side)? I have seen images of the former on Asus' site with both launchers, but I cannot figure out how to get it to use the TF300 layout (which I prefer). Any help would be appreciated
PS: I have tried to attach some screenshots from the Asus website showing what I mean. This may be explainable but I am in no way a techie so bear with me
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You mean the tablet interface with the pull up window at the bottom right.
Asus decided to use the phablet interface and I also don't like it.
On the TF700 on JB you can choose between the 2, but on the TF701 not.
Really would like that ASUS give us the choice on a next update too.

Snah001 said:
You mean the tablet interface with the pull up window at the bottom right.
Asus decided to use the phablet interface and I also don't like it.
On the TF700 on JB you can choose between the 2, but on the TF701 not.
Really would like that ASUS give us the choice on a next update too.
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I agree, the centered buttons are awkward to get to when the tablet is on the dock and the notifications bar is just plain ugly.
What I don't get is why ASUS shows the tablet using both launchers when it can only use the one.
Anyway, thank you for helping me!

Unfortunately on jb4.3 Asus removed the old 4.1 launcher GUI. I'd say it's gone for good. The framework needs to be modeled to bring it back.
But really it's Google's fault as they only want one unified interface for phones, tablets and phablets.......

Snah001 said:
You mean the tablet interface with the pull up window at the bottom right.
Asus decided to use the phablet interface and I also don't like it.
On the TF700 on JB you can choose between the 2, but on the TF701 not.
Really would like that ASUS give us the choice on a next update too.
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I honest to goodness cannot stand the new notification pull down. It's inconvenient and horribly ugly. I much prefer the interface on the 700. I keep hoping ASUS will wake up and realize how ugly and horrible it is and fix it. And I'm not sure the performance improvement of the 701 makes up for it, either. It makes me sad.

Aaroneious said:
I honest to goodness cannot stand the new notification pull down. It's inconvenient and horribly ugly. I much prefer the interface on the 700. I keep hoping ASUS will wake up and realize how ugly and horrible it is and fix it. And I'm not sure the performance improvement of the 701 makes up for it, either. It makes me sad.
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I love it! :good:
If you want, you can change it in settings back to stock android pulldown (on top left)...

Yezariael said:
I love it! :good:
If you want, you can change it in settings back to stock android pulldown (on top left)...
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Well, notifications are top-left, settings are top-right.
I personally like the asus-way of doing it (pull-down-middle) which has all of this unified more.
Nothing can beat the way it was done on the 700 though, have to agree on that.
Would also be interested in a way of bringing this back.

About a month ago I sent an inquiry to ASUS regarding this, they got back to me within 2 days telling me to email customer services. I did that, but have heard nothing since. I still use 4.2 on my tablet as I haven't upgraded it - is there any hope for me?
Thank you for your input