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I've noticed that the camera of the IS blur parts of photos a lot. I noticed this problem on subjects with finer details eg. skin, rocks etc. It tends to blur or supress the finer details within the subject making them unacceptably too soft.
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EDIT: I meant to say NOISE REDUCTION
Nothing like this for me ... Pictures are perfect ... I love the cam ... Maybe its cuz u zoom in too much or something.
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Hmmm, I never zoom though.
Or maybe its just our diff opinions ... For me its perfect ... Maybe u expected something better
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chobie said:
I've noticed that the camera of the IS blur parts of photos a lot. I noticed this problem on subjects with finer details eg. skin, rocks etc. It tends to blur or supress the finer details within the subject.
Opinions?
EDIT: I meant to say NOISE REDUCTION
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I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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I hope this is just a software problem and hopefully they could patch it via an update.
nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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I'm no photographer, but I noticed the file size as well, too much compression.
And waaaay to much noise reduction.
Also, you can switch of standard widescreen to normal 4:3 which results in this:
5:3 = 3264 x 1952 = 6371328 = 6.4 megapixel
4:3 = 3264 x 2448 = 7990272 = 8.0 megapixel
Hopefully we can turn off noise reduction and/or compression in the next update. Shouldn't be too hard for HTC to disable stuff right
Yes... I just upgraded from HTC Desire and I found that pics are not as detailed as before...
The compression thing should be an option, like many other DC.
I noticed the same with my IS...
My Camera 360 app's night enhancement mode is unusable now.
My N1 took beautiful sharp pictures of this same spot I took.
Now it's all blocky, soft, and washed out even though I've maxed out the resolution and size.
This makes me mad!
If it can take macroshots well, why can't it take landscape / non-macroshots well too?
1st photo: Nexus One
2nd Photo: HTC Incredible S
nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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Here's the patch for CM7 (N1). Root is required as it is replacing a file in the /system partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011810
k3vink3vin said:
Here's the patch for CM7 (N1). Root is required as it is replacing a file in the /system partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011810
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We dont have root yet though. Makes me sadder =/
HTC should update the firmware and fix this themselves. I wonder if theyll have this problem on Verizon's Incredible 2.
I've send an email to HTC support just out of curiosity of their official response.. Although I don't believe they'll say something significant. Companies tend to defend their choices..
when i load the photos to my laptop, i found all of them a little bit red...
I really can not be satisfied with this so-called 8 mega-pixel camera.
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I've send an email to HTC support just out of curiosity of their official response.. Although I don't believe they'll say something significant. Companies tend to defend their choices..
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got a reply today.. they asked me for samples of photos that show the problem.. I sent them.. let's see..
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got a reply today.. they asked me for samples of photos that show the problem.. I sent them.. let's see..
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The most terrible scenario is using zoom. You would want to move forward a few steps, it entirely defeats the purpose of zoom.
We should rally this and send more samples to them.
What email contact did you guys use?
Hopefully they patch this with the Gingerbread update!
Maybe they had used to the bad quality of camera, because from now on, HTC is really not good at the entertainment field in mobile phone, no matter camera or music.
hey guys i'm on a rooted bionic and i think i might be going crazy. i thought before i rooted that i could change picture quality on my camera. well i went in yesterday and it will only let me choose between 8 mp and 6 mp. if anyone is having this issue please let me know if there isnt an issue would someone please call my boss and tell him i need more sleep. thanks
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hey guys i'm on a rooted bionic and i think i might be going crazy. i thought before i rooted that i could change picture quality on my camera. well i went in yesterday and it will only let me choose between 8 mp and 6 mp. if anyone is having this issue please let me know if there isnt an issue would someone please call my boss and tell him i need more sleep. thanks
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I may be mistaken, but I thought that those two values were the only options?
you might be 100% correct on that lol i just needed someone else to confirm it. thanks.
Underwater Mike said:
I may be mistaken, but I thought that those two values were the only options?
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You can only choose between the two settings. No other options are available on root or non-rooted devices.
You'd have to get a third party camera app like camera 360 or vignette to change that stuff
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You'd have to get a third party camera app like camera 360 or vignette to change that stuff
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I am now using Camera360 and I just have to say the quality of the pictures is worlds better then the Motorola app. The colors are more accurate and not washed out, and the focus is quicker. All in all the pictures I am getting with Camera360 are on par with my Panasonic Lumix camera, and the ones with the Motorola app (well they kind of sucked). But anyway, Camera360 was the best 3.99 (or 2.99 I forget) I ever spent. For anyone complaining about the Motorola camera, PLEASE give Camera360 a shot. The program doesn't use all of the screen because it is not qhd compatible yet, but the finished photo is still worth it. MUCH better
Side note: The "paper camera" app is pretty cool if you can't draw to save your life but want some memories that look awesome like that. I found it today & thought it was pretty awesome.
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I am now using Camera360 and I just have to say the quality of the pictures is worlds better then the Motorola app. The colors are more accurate and not washed out, and the focus is quicker. All in all the pictures I am getting with Camera360 are on par with my Panasonic Lumix camera, and the ones with the Motorola app (well they kind of sucked). But anyway, Camera360 was the best 3.99 (or 2.99 I forget) I ever spent. For anyone complaining about the Motorola camera, PLEASE give Camera360 a shot. The program doesn't use all of the screen because it is not qhd compatible yet, but the finished photo is still worth it. MUCH better
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I gave Camera360 a shot. It was way too buggy for me. The viewfinder kept going black on several occasions. It also didn't want to quit when I tried to exit the camera a few times.
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I have to say that after battery life (I knew from the moment the specs leaked, that 2300 mah wouldn't be enough) that the camera quality has been my biggest dissapointment, the phone has a HARD time focusing, the picture quality it's mediocre/sometimes decent and it really doesn't make sense since google is making a big deal out of the camera.
Check out the tag line for the nexus 5 on the play store: "Nexus 5 helps you capture the everyday and the epic in fresh new ways. It's the slimmest and fastest Nexus phone ever made, powered by Android 4.4, KitKat."
If you go the official nexus 5 website you will find lots of info about how good the camera is : http://www.google.com/nexus/5/
or the commercial ... it's all about the camera
Anyway, according to Joshua Topolsky, The Verge's Chief Editor, there's hope and we will get an update trying to fix what's broken, do you guys think it will really make a difference? Or is this camera simply a poor camera? Here's the quote:
"Representatives from the Android team say that software is to blame for the weak performance, not hardware, and reps tell me that a fix is coming to deal with the issues in the upcoming weeks. I've even seen an early build of the new software, and while it's only a minor improvement — autofocus is a hair faster, but still inconsistent, and picture quality hasn't changed — it's nice to see Google already at work.
Of course, there's no set date for a fix at this point, and I don't know how much the camera can actually be improved through software, but if the Moto X is any kind of example, there might just be a solution to this very disheartening problem."
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/4/5062724/google-nexus-5-review
I don't have any issues with the camera. The iverge is so pro apple it isn't even funny anymore
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I've found no quality issue, in fact the opposite, though focus is slow
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Used HDR+ and took great photos for me. Also, have seen The Verge post a bunch of BS, not sure why people even read that crap.
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ishamm said:
I've found no quality issue, in fact the opposite, though focus is slow
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This is the deal. The camera is quite good but the issue is the focus is too slow. They need to fix that part.
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The verge are right in this case. The focus is awfully slow. Google pioneered the instant capture feature on the galaxy nexus, dont know why they abandoned it on the nexus 4 and 5.
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I don't have any issues with the camera. The iverge is so pro apple it isn't even funny anymore
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That's just not true, and you are very biased, it seems. Like others have said, there is significant lag in the camera focus and my Nexus 5 can take much much better photos than my Nexus S, but not any faster. And that is not okay.
I get the impression that all the effort on the software side so far has gone into HDR+
My experience playing around with it is that HDR+ not only improves detail in bright/dark areas, but it also results in sharper images overall. (This is contrary to what I have found with other HDR implementations which have resulted in blurrier images). Of course sometimes you don't want to use HDR (Maybe you want to photograph a figure silhouetted against the sunset for example).
Whilst I didn't buy the N5 as a replacement for an SLR, hopefully the non-HDR mode can be improved. After all, the best camera is the one you have with you.
(I also agree regarding the camera focus. At the very least, an option to pre-focus would make a huge difference!)
Shutter is slow... but it takes decent shots
It's no secret that Google needs to work on their camera software.
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It's no secret that Google needs to work on their camera software.
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Working in a software company, I can imagine how this goes...
"Who wants to work on auto-awesome." - "Yay!"
"Who wants to work on photo-sphere." - "Yay!"
"Who wants to optimize the shutter lag." - "..."
Also, your lunch looks much nicer than my work canteen pizza
flonker said:
Used HDR+ and took great photos for me. Also, have seen The Verge post a bunch of BS, not sure why people even read that crap.
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The same here, very surprised by picture quality in low light using HDR+ (for landscape mainly)... I mean im sure there are better cameras but for a phone im impressed
But i've a weird problem don't know if software or hardware but the camera app stay black screen when opened from the lock screen. it happened many times, i had to put my pin code kill the app and launch again to get the camera app working again.
Anyone got the same issue?
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This is the deal. The camera is quite good but the issue is the focus is too slow. They need to fix that part.
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As a result, it's turned my shots into unfocused poo
At least the shutterlag and slow focus should be fixable, though. I hope.
I'm not expecting Note 3-level of camera, but it'd be nice if we could have say... 70% of the Note 3's camera performance.
Here's one I took and then used Snapseed. The hw is quite capable. https://plus.google.com/101858146614640675194/posts/1jwmHP58BUk
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I'm finding the camera very usable with good results.
However, try using video mode and pinch to zoom. Does this cause Camera to freeze for seconds for others, either recovering eventually or crashing out?
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Apolyxon said:
That's just not true, and you are very biased, it seems. Like others have said, there is significant lag in the camera focus and my Nexus 5 can take much much better photos than my Nexus S, but not any faster. And that is not okay.
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haha, I am about as unbiased as they come. I have all apple everything including an iPhone 5, macbook pro, apple tv's, Droid Maxx and now Nexus 5. I have no brand loyalty at all. Let me make myself clear to you, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE CAMERA OR THE QUALITY OF THE IMAGES THAT COME FROM IT.
I hope that is clears things up for you. And by the way, everything I said is my own opinion. I never said you didn't have issues, I said I wasn't having issues. As for the iVerge, that is pretty common knowledge.
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haha, I am about as unbiased as they come. I have all apple everything including an iPhone 5, macbook pro, apple tv's, Droid Maxx and now Nexus 5. I have no brand loyalty at all. Let me make myself clear to you, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE CAMERA OR THE QUALITY OF THE IMAGES THAT COME FROM IT.
I hope that is clears things up for you. And by the way, everything I said is my own opinion. I never said you didn't have issues, I said I wasn't having issues. As for the iVerge, that is pretty common knowledge.
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Since you have those items, why don't you compare the camera shutter lag to those other phones?
You can always say that for you it's not a problem - and that might very well be as you say, but you'll never be able to deny that there might be people that want to capture "that moment" and with that lag it's just infeasible.
If your camera does not have any worse lag than say the iPhone 5s, please make a video so we can see for ourselves.
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Since you have those items, why don't you compare the camera shutter lag to those other phones?
You can always say that for you it's not a problem - and that might very well be as you say, but you'll never be able to deny that there might be people that want to capture "that moment" and with that lag it's just infeasible.
If your camera does not have any worse lag than say the iPhone 5s, please make a video so we can see for ourselves.
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I have no problem capturing the moment, but I am also a photographer as well so I have learned to anticipate.
Again, I don't need to make video's or prove to you, I have said FOR ME, I have ZERO issues with the camera. It is fine by me.
Definitely needs to be fixed.
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Since you have those items, why don't you compare the camera shutter lag to those other phones?
You can always say that for you it's not a problem - and that might very well be as you say, but you'll never be able to deny that there might be people that want to capture "that moment" and with that lag it's just infeasible.
If your camera does not have any worse lag than say the iPhone 5s, please make a video so we can see for ourselves.
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The shutter lag is insane for a phone with these specs. I used Camera FX and it's much better, but all the images come out very dark.
blazeoc said:
I have no problem capturing the moment, but I am also a photographer as well so I have learned to anticipate.
Again, I don't need to make video's or prove to you, I have said FOR ME, I have ZERO issues with the camera. It is fine by me.
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Look this thread is about issues with the Nexus 5's camera. What good are you doing when you tell people "It's not that bad guys! You just have to anticipate the 1-2 seconds lag, I learned it too!"
It's just ignorant to tell people there is no issue with the camera at all, because you yourself can work around the lag issue. You do see that this might annoy people, especially normal users?
I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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incisivekeith said:
I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app
RErick said:
Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app
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The OG Note has a much better camera with default settings, in my opinion. What main settings get you good pics on the Note 3?
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Highest quality, image stabilization on, auto mode. Just play with it, it has iso and exposure settings too. I have taken some really sweet long exposure shots with it propped up on a rock that look like they've been taken with slow exposure film.
Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.
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Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.
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Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.
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Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.
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Mine goes to 12.8MP (4128x3096). I did notice it didn't do 4k video recording, but I can't find any third-party apps that do that. Does it maybe vary device to device? Might be worth trying out... I know the max MP stated for the Note 3 is 13 but for all I know that's an averages thing. I don't mind losing 0.2MP, since for all I know the full 13 is like I said just raising up.
I turned off auto HDR, and I still have to hold the camera steady for like a second after capturing a shot or else it will be blurry. Is there any way to enable a faster shutter speed?
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HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.
In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
fatasian said:
HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.
In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
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says he has HDR off. Still experiencing
fatasian said:
HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.
In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
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Like I said, HDR is off. Source: I'm also a photographer.
Hoping this is a bug that gets fixed. The 2014 x is quite a bit faster.
I'm sort of guessing/hoping that moto is putting energy into the new camera stuff for L rather than optimizing for kitkat.
Have you tried changing the aspect ratio? Switching to ART runtime? Trying a different camera app?
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coreywallen said:
Have you tried changing the aspect ratio? Switching to ART runtime? Trying a different camera app?
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I haven't done art, but ive done the others.
the camera is basically useless indoors unless your subject is stationary.
Agreed...For me it was too much as this is my main camera when out and about with my toddler. My S5 still takes better picture for now, so had to return the Turbo..>Will definitely keep an eye on updates etc, because other than that, this phone is beautiful...
Really hoping this gets fixed soon as well. The camera is pretty much worthless as is because of the shutter lag. I tried other camera apps from the market as well and the issue persists.
In fairness I think the N5 camera was worse at release... Source: Someone that knows next to nothing about photography and has low needs and expectations but isn't satisfied with the offering here.
Have you tried using the Google camera app, from the Play Store? I've heard that it has more features and performs better than Moto's camera app.
The camera has the ability to take photos without the shutter delay. This is noticeable when you click and hold to take multi photos. Only the first image has a delay and the rest are pretty fast. Hopefully, a software update will solve the single/first photo issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/camera-touch-hold-multi-photo-option-t2965656
I tried the google camera app from the play store and the problem persists. Also tried every setting in the app on/off. How does a phone of this caliber have shutter lag?
Kayak83 said:
I tried the google camera app from the play store and the problem persists. Also tried every setting in the app on/off. How does a phone of this caliber have shutter lag?
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If you're trying all the settings, try the advanced settings on the moto camera too and report back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2884035
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If you're trying all the settings, try the advanced settings on the moto camera too and report back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2884035
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Not seeing anything that helps shutter speed. Tried a few settings and searched the thread but no improvements to shutter speed/lag anywhere to be found. Hopefully a Lollipop update will "fix."
Right there with you. Its so much worse than my old GS3. My number one complaint with an otherwise fantastic phone.
Restola said:
I haven't done art, but ive done the others.
the camera is basically useless indoors unless your subject is stationary.
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Don't do ART. That has nothing to do with anything here.
timofcourse said:
Right there with you. Its so much worse than my old GS3. My number one complaint with an otherwise fantastic phone.
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Last year's X and Droids had similar issues, from slowness to colors. They were fixed in future updates.
I'm not seeing this problem. Very responsive for me.
I did take the OTA today though.. I didn't see a changelog, but figured it was just for Advanced LTE Calling..
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I'm not seeing this problem. Very responsive for me.
I did take the OTA today though.. I didn't see a changelog, but figured it was just for Advanced LTE Calling..
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There was no OTA update today.