I turned off auto HDR, and I still have to hold the camera steady for like a second after capturing a shot or else it will be blurry. Is there any way to enable a faster shutter speed?
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HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.
In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
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HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.
In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
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says he has HDR off. Still experiencing
fatasian said:
HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.
In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
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Like I said, HDR is off. Source: I'm also a photographer.
Hoping this is a bug that gets fixed. The 2014 x is quite a bit faster.
I'm sort of guessing/hoping that moto is putting energy into the new camera stuff for L rather than optimizing for kitkat.
Have you tried changing the aspect ratio? Switching to ART runtime? Trying a different camera app?
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coreywallen said:
Have you tried changing the aspect ratio? Switching to ART runtime? Trying a different camera app?
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I haven't done art, but ive done the others.
the camera is basically useless indoors unless your subject is stationary.
Agreed...For me it was too much as this is my main camera when out and about with my toddler. My S5 still takes better picture for now, so had to return the Turbo..>Will definitely keep an eye on updates etc, because other than that, this phone is beautiful...
Really hoping this gets fixed soon as well. The camera is pretty much worthless as is because of the shutter lag. I tried other camera apps from the market as well and the issue persists.
In fairness I think the N5 camera was worse at release... Source: Someone that knows next to nothing about photography and has low needs and expectations but isn't satisfied with the offering here.
Have you tried using the Google camera app, from the Play Store? I've heard that it has more features and performs better than Moto's camera app.
The camera has the ability to take photos without the shutter delay. This is noticeable when you click and hold to take multi photos. Only the first image has a delay and the rest are pretty fast. Hopefully, a software update will solve the single/first photo issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/camera-touch-hold-multi-photo-option-t2965656
I tried the google camera app from the play store and the problem persists. Also tried every setting in the app on/off. How does a phone of this caliber have shutter lag?
Kayak83 said:
I tried the google camera app from the play store and the problem persists. Also tried every setting in the app on/off. How does a phone of this caliber have shutter lag?
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If you're trying all the settings, try the advanced settings on the moto camera too and report back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2884035
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If you're trying all the settings, try the advanced settings on the moto camera too and report back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2884035
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Not seeing anything that helps shutter speed. Tried a few settings and searched the thread but no improvements to shutter speed/lag anywhere to be found. Hopefully a Lollipop update will "fix."
Right there with you. Its so much worse than my old GS3. My number one complaint with an otherwise fantastic phone.
Restola said:
I haven't done art, but ive done the others.
the camera is basically useless indoors unless your subject is stationary.
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Don't do ART. That has nothing to do with anything here.
timofcourse said:
Right there with you. Its so much worse than my old GS3. My number one complaint with an otherwise fantastic phone.
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Last year's X and Droids had similar issues, from slowness to colors. They were fixed in future updates.
I'm not seeing this problem. Very responsive for me.
I did take the OTA today though.. I didn't see a changelog, but figured it was just for Advanced LTE Calling..
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I'm not seeing this problem. Very responsive for me.
I did take the OTA today though.. I didn't see a changelog, but figured it was just for Advanced LTE Calling..
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There was no OTA update today.
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Hey all
I have been so frustrated with the camera on this phone as it takes barely passable photos in daylight but low light its almost impossible to take photos that are focusd and aren't full of noise. The HDR shot is quite good but nothing special.
Also the photos are a little zoomed in and squashed down if compared against objects you've take the pic of.
So i searched around and came across Lg camera in the market.
It has a free version which seems fully featured which bugs you for purchasing it every now and again. The aspect ratio of the pics is correct and tt takes excellent low light shots especially with flash on and has less noise and focuses perfectly.
Just thought I'd share it see what people thought.
Cheers.
Tried it. Didn't notice a difference. Tried camera zoom fx and all three took the same photo. The autofocus algorithms on this phone are horrible.
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Tried it. Didn't notice a difference. Tried camera zoom fx and all three took the same photo. The autofocus algorithms on this phone are horrible.
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+1 on this, I kinda kiss the old camera app.
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Just tried it. The quality of the pictures doesn't even change.
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Sorry to say but its totally different pics on mine to stock camera. If you cant see the difference then maybe there's a fault on your phones because lg camera is perfect for me in low light and has no focusing issues at all even in a pitch black room with flash on.
You can also set infinity focus which eliminates all need to focus at all so for me lg camera fixes the problem
Also the aspect ratios in the photos on stock camera are totally different when compared to lg camera so maybe you need to compare the pictures side by side. Lg camera is true to the scene, Google camera squashes everything down. Also the Google camera is zoomed in further than lg camera.
My phone has no focusing issues with this app now.
Camera zoom fx isn't really a camera app more of a toy but anyway hope it helps someone as its sorted the camera form me and I'm very picky.
Ill update the thread with comparisons over the weekend to highlight the difference between the two cameras
check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 out
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check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 out
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That is for video...
There are many camera apps.I like camera zoom.. Works well..
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But I take it only the stock camera app supports photosphere?
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Ill update the thread with comparisons over the weekend to highlight the difference between the two cameras
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Please do!
I tried lgCamera as well as other camera apps and saw no significant difference.
There are several aspects to the bad pictures problem.
- One is the limitations of the camera module which no app can fix.
- Then there's camera calibration. The LG Optimus 4X HD has the same camera module
but produces photos with less noise. There's room for improvement here but it is most
likely going to happen with a firmware update.
- Proper metering and scene evaluation will no doubt increase the picture quality.
Manual control is one avenue to peruse this but I haven't come across and app that
gives exclusive control over ISO and shutter speed. Some apps let you select one and
then automatically adjust the other.
Check out Camera FV-5.
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If you cant see the difference then maybe there's a fault on your phones because lg camera is perfect for me
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this just made me lol
because you cant see anything that means your phone must be faulty!:laugh:
The camera app itself doesn't really matter.
All the actual focusing/picture taking/etc is done by the kernel module. There is a userspace driver which translate commands from the camera API (its just ends up being a string that defines parameters in plan text) and based off of that it tells the kernel module to make those changes/perform those actions. It even defines the jpg compression quality and whatnot, so there isnt much the actual app itself does.
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The camera app itself doesn't really matter.
All the actual focusing/picture taking/etc is done by the kernel module. There is a userspace driver which translate commands from the camera API (its just ends up being a string that defines parameters in plan text) and based off of that it tells the kernel module to make those changes/perform those actions. It even defines the jpg compression quality and whatnot, so there isnt much the actual app itself does.
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Level of compression certainly is set by the app. My FV-5 files are twice the size at the same resolution.
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Level of compression certainly is set by the app. My FV-5 files are twice the size at the same resolution.
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The camera app *suggests* the compression it would like, it doesn't do the compression itself. The userspace module instructs the camera kernel module to do the compression, and the build in DSP in the Qualcomm chip does the actual compression.
TeamAlpha said:
Check out Camera FV-5.
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this is a great app!!
but how to solve "widescreen viewfinder" no effect
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Check out Camera FV-5.
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But it wants too many permissions.
Knowing that one of the week parts of this phone is the camera... is it the software or the hardware?
Is it better with third-party camera apps?
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Knowing that one of the week parts of this phone is the camera... is it the software or the hardware?
Is it better with third-party camera apps?
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it is the software that is causing this problem.
WolfsFang said:
it is the software that is causing this problem.
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so third party apps? what's a good camera app for it?
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so third party apps? what's a good camera app for it?
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It's actually mostly a firmware problem, which basically means that it has to do with the camera drivers. You can overcome some issues with third party software, but some of it won't be fixed without a firmware update.
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so third party apps? what's a good camera app for it?
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For me i like camera JB+, it is $1.99 but it is worth it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moblynx.camerajbplus
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For me i like camera JB+, it is $1.99 but it is worth it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moblynx.camerajbplus
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Damn, this made a HUGE improvement..
you may give it a try as third part apps remain a supplementary services which may not deliver the same productivity as the original was
I don't think the camera is as bad as everyone says it is. It definitely could be better, but it's not terrible.
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I don't think the camera is as bad as everyone says it is. It definitely could be better, but it's not terrible.
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It's not terrible but it has a big purple overlay and has focusing issues. It likes to autofocus and adjust white balance, and we can't turn that off. Find a light source and open up the camera app and slowly bring the lamp into the frame of the camera. You will start to see it adjusting to the light.
Check out this album of 3 pictures I took yesterday, all I was doing was moving the center of the camera up to get more of the sky, and it totally darkened the field below: http://imgur.com/a/vfGXO
All of those photos in that album, were taken in a minute time span.
There is definitely something wrong with the camera.
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It's not terrible but it has a big purple overlay and has focusing issues. It likes to autofocus and adjust white balance, and we can't turn that off. Find a light source and open up the camera app and slowly bring the lamp into the frame of the camera. You will start to see it adjusting to the light.
Check out this album of 3 pictures I took yesterday, all I was doing was moving the center of the camera up to get more of the sky, and it totally darkened the field below: http://imgur.com/a/vfGXO
All of those photos in that album, were taken in a minute time span.
There is definitely something wrong with the camera.
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Did you have HDR on?
I tried the JB+ camera and didn't find it to be an improvement. I was hoping for a lot more options to adjust the image before capture.
I get the best results (stock camera) with HDR set to OFF, Touch to Focus DISABLED. White balance is jacked up unless you're in sunlight.
http://imgur.com/a/C514k <--- these are straight off of the camera
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Did you have HDR on?
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I did not for these pictures.
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I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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incisivekeith said:
I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app
RErick said:
Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app
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The OG Note has a much better camera with default settings, in my opinion. What main settings get you good pics on the Note 3?
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Highest quality, image stabilization on, auto mode. Just play with it, it has iso and exposure settings too. I have taken some really sweet long exposure shots with it propped up on a rock that look like they've been taken with slow exposure film.
Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.
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Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.
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Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.
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Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.
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Mine goes to 12.8MP (4128x3096). I did notice it didn't do 4k video recording, but I can't find any third-party apps that do that. Does it maybe vary device to device? Might be worth trying out... I know the max MP stated for the Note 3 is 13 but for all I know that's an averages thing. I don't mind losing 0.2MP, since for all I know the full 13 is like I said just raising up.
Anyone have any suggestions for any camera apps that are quick and have low shutter lag? I'm not looking for any fancy effects or anything, just an ability to take photos quickly.
I noticed that the default Moto Camera has a lot of shutter lag.
jamesino said:
Anyone have any suggestions for any camera apps that are quick and have low shutter lag? I'm not looking for any fancy effects or anything, just an ability to take photos quickly.
I noticed that the default Moto Camera has a lot of shutter lag.
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I would also be interested if you find out anything. I've tried the Google stock camera as well, but not sure it's any better. Other possibilities are VCSO Camera or Camera FV-5. Whatever you try and find out, I'd appreciate your thoughts on it. I've tried both, but couldn't say for certain if it was quicker and haven't sat down to methodically test them.
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I would also be interested if you find out anything. I've tried the Google stock camera as well, but not sure it's any better.
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+1
I was taking pictures at a family BBQ and the lag on the stock camera was between 1 and 3 seconds. Half the pics don't even have the person I was photographing in them. By the time it shot the pic, they had already moved on.
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I was taking pictures at a family BBQ and the lag on the stock camera was between 1 and 3 seconds. Half the pics don't even have the person I was photographing in them. By the time it shot the pic, they had already moved on.
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Heh, I totally feel you. I have a 10 month old kid that I want to get pictures of while he's doing things, and the shutter lag means lots and lots of blurry pictures. I've often wondered, why is it that we cannot simply pull stills from video? For example, engage a "high-speed camera mode" that captures video for a brief period (~1-3 seconds) and breaks it up as stills that you can then choose. I imagine the image quality in the stills is poor and that you don't notice it while it's in playback mode, but less-than-ideal stills may still be better than blurred single shots. Just a thought... my knowledge of photography is very poor, so I imagine there are definite reasons why this hasn't been done, but I am curious.
What do you think is the beat camera app for the nexus 6??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2917061
What's your favorite Camera App(s)?
how many times has this question been asked? and how many threads on this are there? did you bother to search?
snap camera seems the fastest... not sure on the quality of the HDR
#notaphotoexpert
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What do you think is the beat camera app for the nexus 6??
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For the N6? Manual Camera! Lovin this app! It's still a work in progress, but it is a very cool app.
Manual Camera
Other articles on the app:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/1...ext-purchase-if-you-own-a-nexus-5-or-nexus-6/
http://androidcommunity.com/manual-camera-brings-dslr-experience-to-your-android-phone-20150116/
http://www.androidauthority.com/manual-camera-control-picture-580907/
I switched from Manual camera to Camera FV-5, which also uses the new APIs (so it can output DNG). It is a lot more polished and stable than Manual Camera.
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For the N6? Manual Camera! Lovin this app! It's still a work in progress, but it is a very cool app.
Manual Camera
Other articles on the app:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/1...ext-purchase-if-you-own-a-nexus-5-or-nexus-6/
http://androidcommunity.com/manual-camera-brings-dslr-experience-to-your-android-phone-20150116/
http://www.androidauthority.com/manual-camera-control-picture-580907/
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Manual camera capture in 4:3 and you cant change quality and HDR seems very broken or non functional.
Very slow shutter rate, aosp and google camera is so much faster, Manual Camara not worth it at all.
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Manual camera capture in 4:3 and you cant change quality and HDR seems very broken or non functional.
Very slow shutter rate, aosp and google camera is so much faster, Manual Camara not worth it at all.
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It seems you have missed the idea of the app. It's called MANUAL CAMERA!
You don't change "quality" settings. You don't have HDR mode. Those are AUTOMATIC modes. This is a MANUAL application that allows you to adjust MANUAL settings like ISO, Shutter Speed, Over/Under exposure, white balance, etc. If you want all the "programmed" or "automatic" settings that come in the camera app, then use the camera app!
And if your shutter rate is slow, it's because you have a SLOW SHUTTER SPEED selected!!!!
Complaining about an app that is doing what it's supposed to do, is epitome if stupidity!
ARGH!!!!!!!
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The app works perfectly fine on my Nexus 6 and I really like the manual options. Too bad it's not possible to edit the raw images on the phone yet.
And the low fps isn't a problem on a phone for me because the auto focus isn't that fast anyway.
A timer for timelapse photos could be a nice feature.
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Edit RAW with Photo Mate R2 in PlayStore.
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Manual Camera was updated to v2.1 today, and it is now showing as incompatible on the N6. Anyone else seeing this?
seem problem incompatible N6
Edit : the fix should be available for download in an hour or two in play store
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i have a noob Q, why is it until now there is no app for Android for slo-mo? or like funny faces camera with voice changer like in the iOS, is it from android itself or the hardware or the developers ?
because i see the apps for iOS and i just wonder just WHY !
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i have a noob Q, why is it until now there is no app for Android for slo-mo? or like funny faces camera with voice changer like in the iOS, is it from android itself or the hardware or the developers ?
because i see the apps for iOS and i just wonder just WHY !
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Google kinda dropped the ball on it. Hopefully it will be functionality added in at some point.
core issues with N6 video before slo-mo can happen
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i have a noob Q, why is it until now there is no app for Android for slo-mo? or like funny faces camera with voice changer like in the iOS, is it from android itself or the hardware or the developers ?
because i see the apps for iOS and i just wonder just WHY !
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My sense is there are some very serious issue preventing slo-mo. That is, slo-mo you want to share because it would be close to garbage as it stands.
I shoot video frequently and was very unhappy when I got my N6.
- signal to noise (S/N) is not good on this device at this stage of the game. It simply is noisy, and it is correctable in software. Until then, slo-mo will be very nasty if anyone is brave enough to try to encode it.
- exposure compensation in video mode is poor - if you shoot a video of a person sitting in front of a blank wall (or a sky) and slowly pan up and down - you can see the exposure compensation "clicking" in stairstep manner as the device adjusts to brightness changes. It needs to be silky smooth or video looks like crap. It can be corrected in software.
- you can workaround the exposure issue by using a third party app which locks exposure compensation - but shooting video with locked exposure compensation is not a good solution.
my opinions.
@warriorpluto I couldn't agree more...I was hoping that there be at least a working port of maybe lenovo, sense 6 camera,z2 or z3 camera...maybe when more devices get lollipop well be able to enjoy the nexus camera...but I suppose for now the google camera shall do for now lol smh
Z camera is good enough. The only one u can take picture wit no lag. But no HDR .
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Manual Camera
Geko-x said:
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Manual Camera just came out a few weeks ago, but it's by far been the best for me (a camera junkie).
It's best used if you're used to the settings on a DSLR, but has an awesome auto setting and the fastest auto-focus i've seen yet on the N6.
So is the best camera app "Camera FV-5" with Cinema FV-5?
Just cleaned up in here. You guys can take the political debate to a different forum, please. I have absolutely no idea why this subject got brought up in camera thread (actually I do, but I'll deal with the certain member(s))......on a development site.
No need to discuss what I just cleaned in here. Please keep it on topic.
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Manual Camera just came out a few weeks ago, but it's by far been the best for me (a camera junkie).
It's best used if you're used to the settings on a DSLR, but has an awesome auto setting and the fastest auto-focus i've seen yet on the N6.
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I liked the Manual Camera, but there is no option for video mode and front camera mode..