Here are my doubts: Captivate on 2.2 no root
1)Is andromeda3 and phoenix unleashed based on android 2.2 or 2.3?(recent versions)
2)I used Odin v1.0 to go back to stock,what is the difference betwen Odin 1.0 and Odin 1.7?
3)Are there any other methods to go back to stock, I have read "Use odin 1.0 in case of emergency"?
4)How can I back up my stock rom after root in the case I want to flash back and unroot?
5)Do I need to go back to stock every time I want to flash a different rom?
6)Andromeda3 has a ursa minor kernel do i need this to install there rom or can i just flash the rom without ursa minor?
7)In the phoenix unleashed thread it says to flash there custom rom use odin to go back to stock,does this mean i have to do the whole back to stock+root again?(Staring from scratch in other words)
8)Will flashing rage patch while using andromeda3 or phoenix unleashed mess something up?
I think that's all please put the same number of the question in front of the answer so I know witch answers witch.Thank you in advanced.
Here are my doubts: Captivate on 2.2 no root (Don't doubt the captivate - it can handle it! Isn't autocorrect great?)
1)Is andromeda3 and phoenix unleashed based on android 2.2 or 2.3?(recent versions)
Andromeda3 is 2.2 based, and as much as I can see, so is Phoenix Unleashed.
2)I used Odin v1.0 to go back to stock,what is the difference betwen Odin 1.0 and Odin 1.7?
They're the same program, just different revisions. I can't say what specifically has changed between the two of the, but my guess would be 1.7 would have more features/bug fixes/etc.
3)Are there any other methods to go back to stock, I have read "Use odin 1.0 in case of emergency"?
Going back to stock will consist of using some version of Odin (one-click or otherwise) to reflash the stock rom to your phone
4)How can I back up my stock rom after root in the case I want to flash back and unroot?
From a rom standpoint, there's no need to back up your stock rom, unless you have settings done a specific way you want. Flashing to stock with automatically put you back at a stock, unrooted state. I would recommend doing a nandroid backup from the CWM recovery menu (assuming you have CWM) and copying the EFS folder to a safe location before moving forwards.
5)Do I need to go back to stock every time I want to flash a different rom?
Need to? No. Is it a good idea? There's debate on this, but in general, it's not a bad idea to flash back to stock (relative to where you are - GB/Froyo/Eclair) before flashing a new rom. It will help keep things tidy.
6)Andromeda3 has a ursa minor kernel do i need this to install there rom or can i just flash the rom without ursa minor?
To the best of my knowledge, it is included in the rom - there's nothing to do on your part, as it will flash with the rom.
7)In the phoenix unleashed thread it says to flash there custom rom use odin to go back to stock,does this mean i have to do the whole back to stock+root again?(Staring from scratch in other words)
If you're still on stock Eclair, you do not need to go back to stock. If you're on something else, you will need to go back to stock, but you shouldn't have to root, as most roms now work without being rooted.
8)Will flashing rage patch while using andromeda3 or phoenix unleashed mess something up?
It won't hurt anything - it just covers a security flaw.
I think that's all please put the same number of the question in front of the answer so I know witch answers witch.Thank you in advanced.
jmtheiss said:
Here are my doubts: Captivate on 2.2 no root (Don't doubt the captivate - it can handle it! Isn't autocorrect great?)
1)Is andromeda3 and phoenix unleashed based on android 2.2 or 2.3?(recent versions)
Andromeda3 is 2.2 based, and as much as I can see, so is Phoenix Unleashed.
2)I used Odin v1.0 to go back to stock,what is the difference betwen Odin 1.0 and Odin 1.7?
They're the same program, just different revisions. I can't say what specifically has changed between the two of the, but my guess would be 1.7 would have more features/bug fixes/etc.
3)Are there any other methods to go back to stock, I have read "Use odin 1.0 in case of emergency"?
Going back to stock will consist of using some version of Odin (one-click or otherwise) to reflash the stock rom to your phone
4)How can I back up my stock rom after root in the case I want to flash back and unroot?
From a rom standpoint, there's no need to back up your stock rom, unless you have settings done a specific way you want. Flashing to stock with automatically put you back at a stock, unrooted state. I would recommend doing a nandroid backup from the CWM recovery menu (assuming you have CWM) and copying the EFS folder to a safe location before moving forwards.
5)Do I need to go back to stock every time I want to flash a different rom?
Need to? No. Is it a good idea? There's debate on this, but in general, it's not a bad idea to flash back to stock (relative to where you are - GB/Froyo/Eclair) before flashing a new rom. It will help keep things tidy.
6)Andromeda3 has a ursa minor kernel do i need this to install there rom or can i just flash the rom without ursa minor?
To the best of my knowledge, it is included in the rom - there's nothing to do on your part, as it will flash with the rom.
7)In the phoenix unleashed thread it says to flash there custom rom use odin to go back to stock,does this mean i have to do the whole back to stock+root again?(Staring from scratch in other words)
If you're still on stock Eclair, you do not need to go back to stock. If you're on something else, you will need to go back to stock, but you shouldn't have to root, as most roms now work without being rooted.
8)Will flashing rage patch while using andromeda3 or phoenix unleashed mess something up?
It won't hurt anything - it just covers a security flaw.
I think that's all please put the same number of the question in front of the answer so I know witch answers witch.Thank you in advanced.
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Thank you this is very informative and what i meant by "Here are my doubts: Captivate 2.2 no root" is that my captivate is on stock 2.2 without root just to be clear.
I got one more question:
Whats is the EFS folder?
Im going to tell you my former situation so you can tell me what I did wrong:
I rooted my phone with super one click at the time
I used rom manager it was also supposed to save a backup of my stock rom
Somewhere in the CWM I was supposed to save the stock rom just in case something went wrong(i thought i did it correctly)
I flashed Cognition everything was great
I wanted to eliminate Cog when i went to CWM to find my back up of stock it didnt work it stayed in Cog
I have read that flashing other roms while having a custom rom isnt recommended that you need to go back to stock first
I was stuck on Cog all i did was update to the most current version
Till last week where i got the guts to use Odin to flash back to stock with some fear i might brick my phone
Now im looking to do it all over but do it right and not mess it up only with different rom
DudeWatsThat said:
Thank you this is very informative and what i meant by "Here are my doubts: Captivate 2.2 no root" is that my captivate is on stock 2.2 without root just to be clear.
I got one more question:
Whats is the EFS folder?
Im going to tell you my former situation so you can tell me what I did wrong:
I rooted my phone with super one click at the time
I used rom manager it was also supposed to save a backup of my stock rom
Somewhere in the CWM I was supposed to save the stock rom just in case something went wrong(i thought i did it correctly)
I flashed Cognition everything was great
I wanted to eliminate Cog when i went to CWM to find my back up of stock it didnt work it stayed in Cog
I have read that flashing other roms while having a custom rom isnt recommended that you need to go back to stock first
I was stuck on Cog all i did was update to the most current version
Till last week where i got the guts to use Odin to flash back to stock with some fear i might brick my phone
Now im looking to do it all over but do it right and not mess it up only with different rom
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It actually doesn't sound like you did anything wrong - you may just be looking for things in the wrong places. The CWM backup, if I am correct, doesn't create a quick-swappable backup of your stock configuration. My understanding of how the nandroid backup works is that it creates a snapshot of the phone with a particular rom in place, so that if something bad happens, you can flash back to a clean version of that rom, apply the nandroid backup, and you'll be right back in business with your custom rom (Again, that's my understanding - someone more knowledgeable may chime in and give a better/more correct explanation).
If you made a backup using CWM, you should have a folder on your internal SD called "clockworkmod/backup", with a folder that has the date of the backup on it. I would copy that to somewhere safe (like your computer). Once you've done that, and assuming your phone is functioning normally as a phone, I would use a root-level file explorer (root explorer, adb pull command, etc.) to get a copy the folder "/efs" on your computer as well. (Take a look at the link in my signature about XDA terms and acronyms for what the EFS folder is).
Once you've done this, if you haven't already done so, back up your applications with Titanium backup. Then use the Odin one-click to get back to stock 2.1 Eclair. You won't have root access at that point, but that is not a problem. Once you're there, just follow the directions for the rom you want to flash - most will install without requiring the root permissions. The AIO captivate toolbox in the development thread is a good tool if you want something to walk you through the installation process (although it should really only be used on Froyo roms at this point).
PLEASE NOTE - THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT: If you are going to flash a Gingerbread-based rom (Mosaic, Apex, etc), please read up and follow all directions extremely carefully. Flashing Gingerbread involves flashing the bootloaders on your phone, and if something happens during that portion of the flashing process, you will have a true hard brick - not a clay (recoverable error state), but a phone that you can't use.
jmtheiss said:
It actually doesn't sound like you did anything wrong - you may just be looking for things in the wrong places. The CWM backup, if I am correct, doesn't create a quick-swappable backup of your stock configuration. My understanding of how the nandroid backup works is that it creates a snapshot of the phone with a particular rom in place, so that if something bad happens, you can flash back to a clean version of that rom, apply the nandroid backup, and you'll be right back in business with your custom rom (Again, that's my understanding - someone more knowledgeable may chime in and give a better/more correct explanation).
If you made a backup using CWM, you should have a folder on your internal SD called "clockworkmod/backup", with a folder that has the date of the backup on it. I would copy that to somewhere safe (like your computer). Once you've done that, and assuming your phone is functioning normally as a phone, I would use a root-level file explorer (root explorer, adb pull command, etc.) to get a copy the folder "/efs" on your computer as well. (Take a look at the link in my signature about XDA terms and acronyms for what the EFS folder is).
Once you've done this, if you haven't already done so, back up your applications with Titanium backup. Then use the Odin one-click to get back to stock 2.1 Eclair. You won't have root access at that point, but that is not a problem. Once you're there, just follow the directions for the rom you want to flash - most will install without requiring the root permissions. The AIO captivate toolbox in the development thread is a good tool if you want something to walk you through the installation process (although it should really only be used on Froyo roms at this point).
PLEASE NOTE - THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT: If you are going to flash a Gingerbread-based rom (Mosaic, Apex, etc), please read up and follow all directions extremely carefully. Flashing Gingerbread involves flashing the bootloaders on your phone, and if something happens during that portion of the flashing process, you will have a true hard brick - not a clay (recoverable error state), but a phone that you can't use.
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Thanks again
I don't plan on flashing 2.3 roms until the official 2.3 release come out
Theres a Odin that flashes stock 2.2 instead of 2.1 can I use that one instead?
Theres a Odin that flashes stock 2.2 instead of 2.1
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I wasn't aware that existed - could you please provide a link?
Just to point you in the right direction, at the end of the flashing you're currently doing, what rom do you want to have on your phone?
jmtheiss said:
I wasn't aware that existed - could you please provide a link?
Just to point you in the right direction, at the end of the flashing you're currently doing, what rom do you want to have on your phone?
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Heres the link http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
The rom i want to use is either Andromeda3,Phoenix Unleashed or just go back to Cognition 4.5.3 or Cog 5 when its not in Beta.
DudeWatsThat said:
Heres the link http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
The rom i want to use is either Andromeda3,Phoenix Unleashed or just go back to Cognition 4.5.3 or Cog 5 when its not in Beta.
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Thanks for the link - good to know about that file.
In my opinion, you would have the best luck going back to stock Eclair (2.1). The reason I say this is because it gives you the cleanest path to getting to the custom Rom you want. 2.1 doesn't have the signed 3e recovery problems that can exist with a 2.2 stock rom, so you'll save yourself a lot of hassle there. Plus, the 2.1 stock rom to custom rom path has been followed hundreds of times on this forum, so it's had the chance to get pretty much all the kinks worked out by this point.
Again, just my opinion.
jmtheiss said:
Thanks for the link - good to know about that file.
In my opinion, you would have the best luck going back to stock Eclair (2.1). The reason I say this is because it gives you the cleanest path to getting to the custom Rom you want. 2.1 doesn't have the signed 3e recovery problems that can exist with a 2.2 stock rom, so you'll save yourself a lot of hassle there. Plus, the 2.1 stock rom to custom rom path has been followed hundreds of times on this forum, so it's had the chance to get pretty much all the kinks worked out by this point.
Again, just my opinion.
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I would gladly take your advice if it makes everything safer and easier but I upgraded my phone using Kies mini to 2.2 so will using odin to flash back to stock 2.1 cause any problems since its a downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1?
DudeWatsThat said:
I would gladly take your advice if it makes everything safer and easier but I upgraded my phone using Kies mini to 2.2 so will using odin to flash back to stock 2.1 cause any problems since its a downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1?
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You shouldn't have any problems with the 2.2-2.1 transition if you use the one click Odin back to stock. The dangerous move is going from 2.3 to any other version, as that involves flashing the bootloaders.
For maximum safety, just include these items on your checklist prior to starting:
- Nandroid backup from CWM
- EFS backup (copying that folder to a safe location)
- Titanium backup of your apps (copy titaniumbackup folder to safe place)
- Back up pictures/music/other items you want to save
Once you've done that, use the one-click Odin to get to a clean stock. From there, you should be good to go with flashing a custom rom. Just make sure you read and follow all directions in the custom roms' post. (If there's nothing there, follow this guide.)
jmtheiss said:
You shouldn't have any problems with the 2.2-2.1 transition if you use the one click Odin back to stock. The dangerous move is going from 2.3 to any other version, as that involves flashing the bootloaders.
For maximum safety, just include these items on your checklist prior to starting:
- Nandroid backup from CWM
- EFS backup (copying that folder to a safe location)
- Titanium backup of your apps (copy titaniumbackup folder to safe place)
- Back up pictures/music/other items you want to save
Once you've done that, use the one-click Odin to get to a clean stock. From there, you should be good to go with flashing a custom rom. Just make sure you read and follow all directions in the custom roms' post. (If there's nothing there, follow this guide.)
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Eh i got it into download mode and i pressed start on odin but i think its stuck did i have to root first and then use odin im kinda scared right now
Edit:its showing a phone a warning sign and a Pc like connect phone to pc
I know it's nerve racking, but as long as you weren't on a Gingerbread rom, you'll be ok. Rooting isn't required - Odin is automatically "rooted".
A quick questions while you're waiting - When you plugged it in, did Odin recognize a phone was attached (did a yellow text box show up saying COM:4 or something similar)? It should look similar to the attached file.
jmtheiss said:
I know it's nerve racking, but as long as you weren't on a Gingerbread rom, you'll be ok. Rooting isn't required - Odin is automatically "rooted".
A quick questions while you're waiting - When you plugged it in, did Odin recognize a phone was attached (did a yellow text box show up saying COM:4 or something similar)?
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Eh yes its i managed to trouble shoot it and its reboting everything is ok and yes it did show a yellow text box as of right now i just need to pop in the sym and reboot i have succesfully flashed 2.1 i just need to root and get CWM thru Room manager correct me if im wrong.
I'm not that familiar with Rom manager, but the general idea of getting root (maybe through the super one click root application, or from the CWM recovery menu) and installing CWM recovery (however you need to accomplish that) is the right first steps to getting to a custom rom.
Good luck with the flashing process.
jmtheiss said:
I'm not that familiar with Rom manager, but the general idea of getting root (maybe through the super one click root application, or from the CWM recovery menu) and installing CWM recovery (however you need to accomplish that) is the right first steps to getting to a custom rom.
Good luck with the flashing process.
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I just rooted now all I need is CWM and thank you for all your help!
Glad it worked out. Don't be afraid to ask more questions in the future, as a reply to a question you've asked could help someone else with the same question out.
Everything you asked about could have been answered by doing some searches and reading up on these items. Invest the time instead of just posting.
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Everything you asked about could have been answered by doing some searches and reading up on these items. Invest the time instead of just posting.
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I did ALOT of searching before thinking of posting this,the reason I did it was because most of the post are from 2010 and I had doubts on if I should use those methods or if there where new ones.This is the Q&A sub-forum right?I did just that ask questions.
Ok I got a quick question and the searching I've done really hasn't turned up anything definitive. I've got andromeda 3 right now and a back up from rom manager from when my cappy was stock running 2.2 and just rooted running either possibly onix or speed mod kernel that I made before I went with andromeda and, I also have a stock kernel backup from sgs kernel flasher.... I know I was very paranoid before my first rom flash. My question is if I wanted to go back to stock at some point should I just use clockwork to restore the nandroid I made with rom manager and flash the kernel after with sgs kernel flasher or should I do an odin 1 click to get to stock 2.1 then use mini kies to go back to 2.2. I guess it wasnt too short, really I just wanna know is one way 'safer' than the other to go back to stock if I decided too.
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There is a cwm flashable stock image in dev somewhere, I don't have it bookmarked sorry. I always use ODIN to go stock. Doing a nandroid backup wasn't backing up all the files like it should back in the day. Not sure if it is now, but I never relied on it. I haven't used kies in months, no need to do a stock update. But, really, the only reason you would want stock is if you're selling it, warranting it, or something where you need stock on it. AdamOutler is working on heimdal. I think there is stock version of it. But as far as bootloaders go, you're on 2.2, now. ODIN brick is ok. I've had a few. Jig will solve it.
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I guess, to answer your question, ODIN is fine going from any 2.2 rom to stock 2.1. The trouble is going from 2.3 to 2.2 or 2.1. Then the bootloaders change. If something messes up in the process, you're screwed.
Ok thanks that's what I've been trying to figure out, and yeah I have no reason to wanna go stock but its just for future reference, wanted to sell *gasp* or need to have it repaired. Who knows maybe i'll throw my back up at it at some point just to see what happens and see if it really was a full back up and I'll search for what you mentioned. Kies has worked the one time I used it so maybe I'll try that for fun and see if it goes alright again. Really I'm just looking for the fastest way to go back which if it goes alright should be my rom manager back up. Thanks for mentioning the deal with 2.3 roms from the forum threads I've read it seemed kinda risky to make the jump so I've stuck with 2.2 roms so far.
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hello
im on 2.3.6 now and fancy a change because when i click phone or messages it keeps closing and its starting to do my head in.
which rom should i go for?
could you guys point me in the direction of a good guide were i can flash with odin.
iv flashed both my phones a few times but im still a noob
thanks guys/girls
CyanogenMod (7) was fairly simple to flash and it was my first rom on the phone. I'm currently on Team ICSSGS' rom -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398223
The latest release was pulled pending wifi fixes, but I'm using it and it's working great for me.
Just need to be rooted and running CWM to flash it.
was looking at that before
ill wait till they fix it and put it back up
how do i flash it.
i dont have a clue i only know how to use odin. and to be honest i think my 3 year old son could work it lol
does anyone know a good rom that i can flash with odin no messingvaround that looks something like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1460786&highlight=2+3+6
just looking for something a little different but stalble as well
I think for the majority of the roms now you need to be rooted and have CWM installed. CM7 is a very nice rom, and not hard to install. It runs 2.3.7 iirc, and worked great for me.
Wiki for installing:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S:_Full_Update_Guide
i flashed my phone with another rom but didnt like it so i flashed it back to the value pack 2.3.6 jvu and then rooted it with this http://www.androidauthority.com/root-galaxy-s-gt-i9000-android-2-3-6-xxjvu-48441/
but i cant uninstall all the stock apps with super manager app. last time i flashed it i could do it. but didnt use that guild and cant find it now.
so as its not rooted i cant flash with the one you have mentioned
is jvz better?
I never ran 2.3.6, I went right from a stock update at 2.3.1 (iirc) to the 2.3.7 in CM7. You should just install CWM using Odin, do a full backup using Titanium Backup and a Nandroid backup in CWM. Then flash anything you want to try.
Also, for backing up contacts, I've read not to use Titanium, use an SMS/Contacts Backup... Titanium has worked for me though.
Not bothered about backing my stuff up. only need my contacts there on kies
might try a flash with clocks recovery when i get home.
i like the rom im on but i doont have full root access as i cant delete atock apps like i could before. i need to delete them to change file format to exr4. says i dont have room if i don't delete them
I all ready have cwm so do.i.just download the cm7 zip file and extract it on my internal memory card then reboot into cwm and flash
Oops double post
Flashed it but it runs really really skow looks good tho.
search continues ha ha
Kies still connects to your phone with custom roms and such? I was lucky if it worked with the stock firmwares.
Did you do a full data wipe? CM7 ran pretty quick on my phone. Maybe try SetCPU to speed things up a little.
Titanium with root access can remove stock apps too.
ye i did a full wipe.
i tried clocking it to 1200 and still ran slow.
ICS ran a little slow as well.
flashed a few now with cwm getting quite addictive.
would like to try a few more but mega uploads comes up with some security thing saying its been removed blah blah blah
MegaUpload was shut down a little while ago now. Should be lots of Roms listed in the forums here, with active downloads I would hope.
So I bought a Samsung Galaxy S from ebay, which had been rooted, and is currently running Jelly Bean with apex launcher.
I have had so many problems and had to flash the new rom on it countless times now and I'm sick of losing everything every time and never trusting my phone. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong?
I had a notification for an update for Apex Launcher a couple of days ago through the play store, so I updated it. It then would kept failing, and telling me "Apex Launcher is not responding". It wouldn't even respond long enough for me to turn it off normally... I had to take the battery out in order to turn the power off.
This was not the first time Apex had crashed on me so I thought I'd download Go Launcher instead. It all seemed fine, however it started to randomly rearrange all my icons and then wouldn't let me customise it at all - couldn't add new app shortcuts, widgets, or rearrange anything whatsoever.
I decided to factory reset and wipe the caches etc and flash the original rom on it for now, but not sure if I should try and remove Apex somehow and use something else or if it's the rom I'm using or what?!
Would anyone be able to help??
sorry forgot to mention that I am almost a complete noob at this and flashing a new rom is about the only thing I can do, I have no idea what all the different roms are etc I just flash the one that was already saved on the memory card that came with the phone!
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sorry forgot to mention that I am almost a complete noob at this and flashing a new rom is about the only thing I can do, I have no idea what all the different roms are etc I just flash the one that was already saved on the memory card that came with the phone!
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downlaod a more stable ro(cm9 maybe or ics rom,I dont know because I dont have i9000 but i9001),just go to i9000 android development and download a rom.Then install it in recovery but before installing wipe everything(data,cache and dalvik),u will see that in how to install section.Just follow the instructions
Hey,
Start from the beginning.
Download JVZ or JPU rom (Gingerbread of Froyo), flash via Odin. It is really simple. Root it and install CWM.
Next Download pure CM10, install it via CWM. Only the your system will be clean and fresh.
Hey
If u hav I9000 then downgrade to 2.3.6(link given below..)..that should solve ur issues..