Here are my doubts: Captivate on 2.2 no root
1)Is andromeda3 and phoenix unleashed based on android 2.2 or 2.3?(recent versions)
2)I used Odin v1.0 to go back to stock,what is the difference betwen Odin 1.0 and Odin 1.7?
3)Are there any other methods to go back to stock, I have read "Use odin 1.0 in case of emergency"?
4)How can I back up my stock rom after root in the case I want to flash back and unroot?
5)Do I need to go back to stock every time I want to flash a different rom?
6)Andromeda3 has a ursa minor kernel do i need this to install there rom or can i just flash the rom without ursa minor?
7)In the phoenix unleashed thread it says to flash there custom rom use odin to go back to stock,does this mean i have to do the whole back to stock+root again?(Staring from scratch in other words)
8)Will flashing rage patch while using andromeda3 or phoenix unleashed mess something up?
I think that's all please put the same number of the question in front of the answer so I know witch answers witch.Thank you in advanced.
Here are my doubts: Captivate on 2.2 no root (Don't doubt the captivate - it can handle it! Isn't autocorrect great?)
1)Is andromeda3 and phoenix unleashed based on android 2.2 or 2.3?(recent versions)
Andromeda3 is 2.2 based, and as much as I can see, so is Phoenix Unleashed.
2)I used Odin v1.0 to go back to stock,what is the difference betwen Odin 1.0 and Odin 1.7?
They're the same program, just different revisions. I can't say what specifically has changed between the two of the, but my guess would be 1.7 would have more features/bug fixes/etc.
3)Are there any other methods to go back to stock, I have read "Use odin 1.0 in case of emergency"?
Going back to stock will consist of using some version of Odin (one-click or otherwise) to reflash the stock rom to your phone
4)How can I back up my stock rom after root in the case I want to flash back and unroot?
From a rom standpoint, there's no need to back up your stock rom, unless you have settings done a specific way you want. Flashing to stock with automatically put you back at a stock, unrooted state. I would recommend doing a nandroid backup from the CWM recovery menu (assuming you have CWM) and copying the EFS folder to a safe location before moving forwards.
5)Do I need to go back to stock every time I want to flash a different rom?
Need to? No. Is it a good idea? There's debate on this, but in general, it's not a bad idea to flash back to stock (relative to where you are - GB/Froyo/Eclair) before flashing a new rom. It will help keep things tidy.
6)Andromeda3 has a ursa minor kernel do i need this to install there rom or can i just flash the rom without ursa minor?
To the best of my knowledge, it is included in the rom - there's nothing to do on your part, as it will flash with the rom.
7)In the phoenix unleashed thread it says to flash there custom rom use odin to go back to stock,does this mean i have to do the whole back to stock+root again?(Staring from scratch in other words)
If you're still on stock Eclair, you do not need to go back to stock. If you're on something else, you will need to go back to stock, but you shouldn't have to root, as most roms now work without being rooted.
8)Will flashing rage patch while using andromeda3 or phoenix unleashed mess something up?
It won't hurt anything - it just covers a security flaw.
I think that's all please put the same number of the question in front of the answer so I know witch answers witch.Thank you in advanced.
jmtheiss said:
Here are my doubts: Captivate on 2.2 no root (Don't doubt the captivate - it can handle it! Isn't autocorrect great?)
1)Is andromeda3 and phoenix unleashed based on android 2.2 or 2.3?(recent versions)
Andromeda3 is 2.2 based, and as much as I can see, so is Phoenix Unleashed.
2)I used Odin v1.0 to go back to stock,what is the difference betwen Odin 1.0 and Odin 1.7?
They're the same program, just different revisions. I can't say what specifically has changed between the two of the, but my guess would be 1.7 would have more features/bug fixes/etc.
3)Are there any other methods to go back to stock, I have read "Use odin 1.0 in case of emergency"?
Going back to stock will consist of using some version of Odin (one-click or otherwise) to reflash the stock rom to your phone
4)How can I back up my stock rom after root in the case I want to flash back and unroot?
From a rom standpoint, there's no need to back up your stock rom, unless you have settings done a specific way you want. Flashing to stock with automatically put you back at a stock, unrooted state. I would recommend doing a nandroid backup from the CWM recovery menu (assuming you have CWM) and copying the EFS folder to a safe location before moving forwards.
5)Do I need to go back to stock every time I want to flash a different rom?
Need to? No. Is it a good idea? There's debate on this, but in general, it's not a bad idea to flash back to stock (relative to where you are - GB/Froyo/Eclair) before flashing a new rom. It will help keep things tidy.
6)Andromeda3 has a ursa minor kernel do i need this to install there rom or can i just flash the rom without ursa minor?
To the best of my knowledge, it is included in the rom - there's nothing to do on your part, as it will flash with the rom.
7)In the phoenix unleashed thread it says to flash there custom rom use odin to go back to stock,does this mean i have to do the whole back to stock+root again?(Staring from scratch in other words)
If you're still on stock Eclair, you do not need to go back to stock. If you're on something else, you will need to go back to stock, but you shouldn't have to root, as most roms now work without being rooted.
8)Will flashing rage patch while using andromeda3 or phoenix unleashed mess something up?
It won't hurt anything - it just covers a security flaw.
I think that's all please put the same number of the question in front of the answer so I know witch answers witch.Thank you in advanced.
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Thank you this is very informative and what i meant by "Here are my doubts: Captivate 2.2 no root" is that my captivate is on stock 2.2 without root just to be clear.
I got one more question:
Whats is the EFS folder?
Im going to tell you my former situation so you can tell me what I did wrong:
I rooted my phone with super one click at the time
I used rom manager it was also supposed to save a backup of my stock rom
Somewhere in the CWM I was supposed to save the stock rom just in case something went wrong(i thought i did it correctly)
I flashed Cognition everything was great
I wanted to eliminate Cog when i went to CWM to find my back up of stock it didnt work it stayed in Cog
I have read that flashing other roms while having a custom rom isnt recommended that you need to go back to stock first
I was stuck on Cog all i did was update to the most current version
Till last week where i got the guts to use Odin to flash back to stock with some fear i might brick my phone
Now im looking to do it all over but do it right and not mess it up only with different rom
DudeWatsThat said:
Thank you this is very informative and what i meant by "Here are my doubts: Captivate 2.2 no root" is that my captivate is on stock 2.2 without root just to be clear.
I got one more question:
Whats is the EFS folder?
Im going to tell you my former situation so you can tell me what I did wrong:
I rooted my phone with super one click at the time
I used rom manager it was also supposed to save a backup of my stock rom
Somewhere in the CWM I was supposed to save the stock rom just in case something went wrong(i thought i did it correctly)
I flashed Cognition everything was great
I wanted to eliminate Cog when i went to CWM to find my back up of stock it didnt work it stayed in Cog
I have read that flashing other roms while having a custom rom isnt recommended that you need to go back to stock first
I was stuck on Cog all i did was update to the most current version
Till last week where i got the guts to use Odin to flash back to stock with some fear i might brick my phone
Now im looking to do it all over but do it right and not mess it up only with different rom
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It actually doesn't sound like you did anything wrong - you may just be looking for things in the wrong places. The CWM backup, if I am correct, doesn't create a quick-swappable backup of your stock configuration. My understanding of how the nandroid backup works is that it creates a snapshot of the phone with a particular rom in place, so that if something bad happens, you can flash back to a clean version of that rom, apply the nandroid backup, and you'll be right back in business with your custom rom (Again, that's my understanding - someone more knowledgeable may chime in and give a better/more correct explanation).
If you made a backup using CWM, you should have a folder on your internal SD called "clockworkmod/backup", with a folder that has the date of the backup on it. I would copy that to somewhere safe (like your computer). Once you've done that, and assuming your phone is functioning normally as a phone, I would use a root-level file explorer (root explorer, adb pull command, etc.) to get a copy the folder "/efs" on your computer as well. (Take a look at the link in my signature about XDA terms and acronyms for what the EFS folder is).
Once you've done this, if you haven't already done so, back up your applications with Titanium backup. Then use the Odin one-click to get back to stock 2.1 Eclair. You won't have root access at that point, but that is not a problem. Once you're there, just follow the directions for the rom you want to flash - most will install without requiring the root permissions. The AIO captivate toolbox in the development thread is a good tool if you want something to walk you through the installation process (although it should really only be used on Froyo roms at this point).
PLEASE NOTE - THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT: If you are going to flash a Gingerbread-based rom (Mosaic, Apex, etc), please read up and follow all directions extremely carefully. Flashing Gingerbread involves flashing the bootloaders on your phone, and if something happens during that portion of the flashing process, you will have a true hard brick - not a clay (recoverable error state), but a phone that you can't use.
jmtheiss said:
It actually doesn't sound like you did anything wrong - you may just be looking for things in the wrong places. The CWM backup, if I am correct, doesn't create a quick-swappable backup of your stock configuration. My understanding of how the nandroid backup works is that it creates a snapshot of the phone with a particular rom in place, so that if something bad happens, you can flash back to a clean version of that rom, apply the nandroid backup, and you'll be right back in business with your custom rom (Again, that's my understanding - someone more knowledgeable may chime in and give a better/more correct explanation).
If you made a backup using CWM, you should have a folder on your internal SD called "clockworkmod/backup", with a folder that has the date of the backup on it. I would copy that to somewhere safe (like your computer). Once you've done that, and assuming your phone is functioning normally as a phone, I would use a root-level file explorer (root explorer, adb pull command, etc.) to get a copy the folder "/efs" on your computer as well. (Take a look at the link in my signature about XDA terms and acronyms for what the EFS folder is).
Once you've done this, if you haven't already done so, back up your applications with Titanium backup. Then use the Odin one-click to get back to stock 2.1 Eclair. You won't have root access at that point, but that is not a problem. Once you're there, just follow the directions for the rom you want to flash - most will install without requiring the root permissions. The AIO captivate toolbox in the development thread is a good tool if you want something to walk you through the installation process (although it should really only be used on Froyo roms at this point).
PLEASE NOTE - THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT: If you are going to flash a Gingerbread-based rom (Mosaic, Apex, etc), please read up and follow all directions extremely carefully. Flashing Gingerbread involves flashing the bootloaders on your phone, and if something happens during that portion of the flashing process, you will have a true hard brick - not a clay (recoverable error state), but a phone that you can't use.
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Thanks again
I don't plan on flashing 2.3 roms until the official 2.3 release come out
Theres a Odin that flashes stock 2.2 instead of 2.1 can I use that one instead?
Theres a Odin that flashes stock 2.2 instead of 2.1
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I wasn't aware that existed - could you please provide a link?
Just to point you in the right direction, at the end of the flashing you're currently doing, what rom do you want to have on your phone?
jmtheiss said:
I wasn't aware that existed - could you please provide a link?
Just to point you in the right direction, at the end of the flashing you're currently doing, what rom do you want to have on your phone?
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Heres the link http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
The rom i want to use is either Andromeda3,Phoenix Unleashed or just go back to Cognition 4.5.3 or Cog 5 when its not in Beta.
DudeWatsThat said:
Heres the link http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
The rom i want to use is either Andromeda3,Phoenix Unleashed or just go back to Cognition 4.5.3 or Cog 5 when its not in Beta.
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Thanks for the link - good to know about that file.
In my opinion, you would have the best luck going back to stock Eclair (2.1). The reason I say this is because it gives you the cleanest path to getting to the custom Rom you want. 2.1 doesn't have the signed 3e recovery problems that can exist with a 2.2 stock rom, so you'll save yourself a lot of hassle there. Plus, the 2.1 stock rom to custom rom path has been followed hundreds of times on this forum, so it's had the chance to get pretty much all the kinks worked out by this point.
Again, just my opinion.
jmtheiss said:
Thanks for the link - good to know about that file.
In my opinion, you would have the best luck going back to stock Eclair (2.1). The reason I say this is because it gives you the cleanest path to getting to the custom Rom you want. 2.1 doesn't have the signed 3e recovery problems that can exist with a 2.2 stock rom, so you'll save yourself a lot of hassle there. Plus, the 2.1 stock rom to custom rom path has been followed hundreds of times on this forum, so it's had the chance to get pretty much all the kinks worked out by this point.
Again, just my opinion.
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I would gladly take your advice if it makes everything safer and easier but I upgraded my phone using Kies mini to 2.2 so will using odin to flash back to stock 2.1 cause any problems since its a downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1?
DudeWatsThat said:
I would gladly take your advice if it makes everything safer and easier but I upgraded my phone using Kies mini to 2.2 so will using odin to flash back to stock 2.1 cause any problems since its a downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1?
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You shouldn't have any problems with the 2.2-2.1 transition if you use the one click Odin back to stock. The dangerous move is going from 2.3 to any other version, as that involves flashing the bootloaders.
For maximum safety, just include these items on your checklist prior to starting:
- Nandroid backup from CWM
- EFS backup (copying that folder to a safe location)
- Titanium backup of your apps (copy titaniumbackup folder to safe place)
- Back up pictures/music/other items you want to save
Once you've done that, use the one-click Odin to get to a clean stock. From there, you should be good to go with flashing a custom rom. Just make sure you read and follow all directions in the custom roms' post. (If there's nothing there, follow this guide.)
jmtheiss said:
You shouldn't have any problems with the 2.2-2.1 transition if you use the one click Odin back to stock. The dangerous move is going from 2.3 to any other version, as that involves flashing the bootloaders.
For maximum safety, just include these items on your checklist prior to starting:
- Nandroid backup from CWM
- EFS backup (copying that folder to a safe location)
- Titanium backup of your apps (copy titaniumbackup folder to safe place)
- Back up pictures/music/other items you want to save
Once you've done that, use the one-click Odin to get to a clean stock. From there, you should be good to go with flashing a custom rom. Just make sure you read and follow all directions in the custom roms' post. (If there's nothing there, follow this guide.)
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Eh i got it into download mode and i pressed start on odin but i think its stuck did i have to root first and then use odin im kinda scared right now
Edit:its showing a phone a warning sign and a Pc like connect phone to pc
I know it's nerve racking, but as long as you weren't on a Gingerbread rom, you'll be ok. Rooting isn't required - Odin is automatically "rooted".
A quick questions while you're waiting - When you plugged it in, did Odin recognize a phone was attached (did a yellow text box show up saying COM:4 or something similar)? It should look similar to the attached file.
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I know it's nerve racking, but as long as you weren't on a Gingerbread rom, you'll be ok. Rooting isn't required - Odin is automatically "rooted".
A quick questions while you're waiting - When you plugged it in, did Odin recognize a phone was attached (did a yellow text box show up saying COM:4 or something similar)?
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Eh yes its i managed to trouble shoot it and its reboting everything is ok and yes it did show a yellow text box as of right now i just need to pop in the sym and reboot i have succesfully flashed 2.1 i just need to root and get CWM thru Room manager correct me if im wrong.
I'm not that familiar with Rom manager, but the general idea of getting root (maybe through the super one click root application, or from the CWM recovery menu) and installing CWM recovery (however you need to accomplish that) is the right first steps to getting to a custom rom.
Good luck with the flashing process.
jmtheiss said:
I'm not that familiar with Rom manager, but the general idea of getting root (maybe through the super one click root application, or from the CWM recovery menu) and installing CWM recovery (however you need to accomplish that) is the right first steps to getting to a custom rom.
Good luck with the flashing process.
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I just rooted now all I need is CWM and thank you for all your help!
Glad it worked out. Don't be afraid to ask more questions in the future, as a reply to a question you've asked could help someone else with the same question out.
Everything you asked about could have been answered by doing some searches and reading up on these items. Invest the time instead of just posting.
Miami_Son said:
Everything you asked about could have been answered by doing some searches and reading up on these items. Invest the time instead of just posting.
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I did ALOT of searching before thinking of posting this,the reason I did it was because most of the post are from 2010 and I had doubts on if I should use those methods or if there where new ones.This is the Q&A sub-forum right?I did just that ask questions.
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I'm really a noob in hacking my captivate. So please bear with me with all my questions.
I've tried my best to educate myself about different mods, especially clockworkmod and nandroid. But I couldn't understand what each of these does. I did "Backup Current ROM" in ROM manager recently. (1) Is that considered to be a ROM backup that I can use in the future if I want to restore to stock ROM?
If so, (2) what is the different between that backup method and Nandroid method? I didn't do Nandroid backup because I don't understand how to install it.
(3) If not, am I screwed? Cause I already performed several mods: Voodoo lagfix and ATT app removal. But my captivate is running fine.
I just wanna make sure I can restore back to my Stock ROM when 2.2 update is available. (4) Do I need to restore stock ROM in order to receive and install 2.2 update?
Please educate me on this matter. Thanks!
I use nandroid once I installed a firmware or ROM and apps (Titanium Backup User apps + System data and restored on the ROM Missing Apps + Data) to make a backup.
Now I can restore Nandroid and all my settings/apps are there.
Use Titanium backup to get your apps/settings onto a newly flashed firmware or ROM.
2 good options... My favorite is to use rom manager to do a rom backup.
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hwibowo said:
I'm really a noob in hacking my captivate. So please bear with me with all my questions.
I've tried my best to educate myself about different mods, especially clockworkmod and nandroid. But I couldn't understand what each of these does. I did "Backup Current ROM" in ROM manager recently. (1) Is that considered to be a ROM backup that I can use in the future if I want to restore to stock ROM?
If so, (2) what is the different between that backup method and Nandroid method? I didn't do Nandroid backup because I don't understand how to install it.
(3) If not, am I screwed? Cause I already performed several mods: Voodoo lagfix and ATT app removal. But my captivate is running fine.
I just wanna make sure I can restore back to my Stock ROM when 2.2 update is available. (4) Do I need to restore stock ROM in order to receive and install 2.2 update?
Please educate me on this matter. Thanks!
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1) clockwork mod and nandroid (ROM Manager) are the same thing.
2) as clockwork stands RIGHT NOW (should be changing soon), backing up your current ROM does NOT change your kernel or modem. clockwork is also incompatible with voodoo (you have to disable voodoo to use clockwork, and you can restore voodoo once you're done)
3) to restore to stock "out of the box" state, you will need to use the odin one-click downloader for the Captivate.
4) the process for updating to 2.2 is unknown at this time, we won't know more until the option starts rolling out.
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1) clockwork mod and nandroid (ROM Manager) are the same thing.
2) as clockwork stands RIGHT NOW (should be changing soon), backing up your current ROM does NOT change your kernel or modem. clockwork is also incompatible with voodoo (you have to disable voodoo to use clockwork, and you can restore voodoo once you're done)
3) to restore to stock "out of the box" state, you will need to use the odin one-click downloader for the Captivate.
4) the process for updating to 2.2 is unknown at this time, we won't know more until the option starts rolling out.
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Thanks alot! That clears a lot of my confusion.
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3) to restore to stock "out of the box" state, you will need to use the odin one-click downloader for the Captivate.
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Thing is, this isn't EXACTLY "out of the box" state. This is a new install of the stock ROM, but it's missing some things that are on the original phone like the file with the easy to get unlock codes.
What I would like to do is backup the entire device as is when it comes out of the box. Basically create an image of the existing device. That way, if I have to revert at any point I know I'm not just reinstalling the stock ROM, but actually reverting to this phones original state.
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Thing is, this isn't EXACTLY "out of the box" state. This is a new install of the stock ROM, but it's missing some things that are on the original phone like the file with the easy to get unlock codes.
What I would like to do is backup the entire device as is when it comes out of the box. Basically create an image of the existing device. That way, if I have to revert at any point I know I'm not just reinstalling the stock ROM, but actually reverting to this phones original state.
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Hmmm, good question. The only way to back up that I know of is to use ROM Manager. Since that requires rooting the "damage" may already be done.
The date of the kernel is different from the stock one as well, someone else tried to flash the original stock kernel but said while Odin showed the kernel took, the phone still shows the same with the different date. It would be nice if there was a way to get a completely original stock ROM, so if you have to exchange or something at ATT. I don't know how in depth they get at the store so maybe we'd be able to get away with just the Odin One-Click and they will accept it. If they check the kernel date though, you're screwed. Either way though, once the update comes out, rest assured that someone will post it on here for those of us not running completely original out of the box stock, which I always appreciate.
I've been trying to read as much as I could about loading custom roms, but I haven't found a guide that explains everything. I've gone through all the stickies but I haven't gotten a clear idea of flashing roms.
In the past, I've rooted my captivate and then downloaded the Titanium backup manager. But after wanting to go back to stock, my phone completely died using Odin to go back to JF6 and then doing an OTA update.
So before experimenting with my phone again, I want to be sure I know exactly what I'm doing. So is there a detailed guide on about using custom roms? Such as, what exactly is the update.zip file? When should I create a copy of it? What is Clockwork? If I want to revert back to stock, how do you go back to JH7 instead of JF6?
Not really, not for the level of detail you are looking for.
I'd recommend trying before you know everything . Just make sure make sure you have download mode working via the 3 button combo
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Update.zip is what android automatically uses in recovery mode - clockwork is an update.zip that leads you into a super cool recovery mode that lets u do more.
U don't really need to mess with it.
Just install ROM manager and it will handle it
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Thanks!! If you flash one ROM and want to switch to another, do you have to use odin to go back to stock? Or can you use a rom manager to flash a different one on?
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Thanks!! If you flash one ROM and want to switch to another, do you have to use odin to go back to stock? Or can you use a rom manager to flash a different one on?
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Most of the time you can do it on top, but its considered a safe measure to go back to stock. Also make sure you disable lagfix if you have one or else it will screw everything up.
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Most of the time you can do it on top, but its considered a safe measure to go back to stock. Also make sure you disable lagfix if you have one or else it will screw everything up.
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If you are going back to stock, disabling lagfix isn't necessary. Everything is completely overwritten. It's only necessary if you don't go back to stock and just upgrade instead.
I'm interested in this too - First Android device and being on a tiny bit of a learning curve...
Reading through the forums here, I see the popular safety first consensus seems to be Odin back to stock, then root/ROM Manager and on with the next ROM. Fair enough, I have no problem with that, but I'd like to know the reasoning?
So lets say I try to go from my current Cog 2.1.6 (voodoo disabled) to the latest Cognition 2.4.1 beta (or any other ROM) via ROM Manager. What disasters "will" befall me? What disasters "might" befall me? Why?
You may or may not get frequent crashes if you do not flash to stock first.
Just make sure you can get into download mode. Everything else will work out
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I have been reading for days and days. i am a noobie and i hope i don't try anybodies patience. I have not been able to find a basic enough answer to my possible delima. I rooted my captivate installed titanium backup and rom manager. I then flashed cwm and was successful. so I down loaded cognition to my computer and put it on my sd card. I turned off my phone took out my sim card and external sd card. i turned the phone back on in recovery mode and I wiped all, then got into cwm and installed cognition. It is great, but i am worried about when it degrades over time and i get the itch again to flash my rom that i made a grave mistake. i am pretty sure that i don't have a stock backup to go to before my next flash and if i download one from the internet then it won't be rooted and i will have to go through the whole process all over. i do have a backup of cog v3.04 on my sd. I wil want to flash another rom pretty soon but don't quite know how to proceed but am tempted to just do the same process i did to put cog on,(put the zip file on my sd and manually boot into recovery get into cwm and install new rom zip. any help would be appreciated. thanks in advance.
It is easy, and you never have to root again.
You have a file on your sd
update.zip
As long as you have this on your sd you can get into clockwork. When on stock just get into recovery and reinstall packages twice
To get back to stock you need to use odin. depending on your build number determines which odin is best. Build number can be located under the battery, something like 1008
Flashing stock is not as needed as some say. I have flashed several roms without going back to stock.
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thanks for fast reply
wow that was fast, i should have posted days ago,all of that reading was running my head around in circles. Just one more question. If i use odin don't i lose root. I also have read many warnings about flashing custom roms without returning to stock, but logically that makes me think i would have to root the stock rom every time before flashing the new rom. Maybe thats a dumb question but i am just trying to be careful and delay my first softbrick experience. thanks again.
Saving the update.zip gives you clockwork recovery without root. You can flash another rom straight from there.
With the new kernels that are out flashing stock is not needed as the built in recovers understand ext 4. I flash stock occasionally for no real reason. If I am making a major change like going from js3 base to armani base I tend to flash stock, if for no other reason piece of mind
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Okay ... I have the Samsung Droid Charge and I'm quite comfortable flashing ROMS/Kernels/CWM Odin etc.
My wife has my old original Verizon Moto Droid (stock) and it is starting to act up a little. I'm thinking of flashing a ROM onto it to update things and see if it acts any better.
Like I said; I am comfortable using Odin and CWM on my Charge. What's different with the Droid? What will I need to accomplish the tasks? Is there an Original stock ROM available I can revert back to if things don't work out or she doesn't like it?
It looks like there's a Windows based app instead of Odin? I am running Win7-64 bit on my desktop.
Any pointers getting me headed in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
MERRY CHRISTMAS !!
Steve
Edit: Understand this is my wife's phone. I need to know what I am doing before I attempt it .... I screw up her phone and it ain't gonna be a Merry Christmas around the Chopstix household ... ~;-p
You could use superoneclick v 1.7 to root it, you can install cwm recovery on it and flash a rom, I would reccomend project elite for its great stability. If anything ever goes wrong you can sbf back to stock
I just Flashed Cyanogen Mod 7.1.0 on my stock OG droid and it rocks. Some pointers that I couldn't find in the rest of the forums:
Like mentioned above, you have to use superoneclick 1.7 (or revert back to 1.6 if the frk76 -the latest update- has put it self on the phone)
I used "mybackup root" (free in the market) to back up my apps and data (messages, call logs, pictures, and music). Worked great.
I logged into my google account to back up contacts, calendar, etc. Also worked great.
Here is the part that everyone has a problem with: Rom Manager.
The stock ClockworkMod Recovery (2.5.0.1) in Rom Manager does not work for the OG Droid. I was able to get it to work though by going to "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" at the bottom on the Rom Manager screen and flash ClockworkMod Recovery (3.1.0.2).
After that it was smooth sailing. Remember to perform a Nandroid Back up, do a factory reset/wipe data, and what ever else the ROM you are installing suggests you do. I had to do a recovery a couple of times figuring out that SPRecovery won't work for Flashing new ROMS.
Hope it works and Merry Christmas!!!
taptaptouch said:
You could use superoneclick v 1.7 to root it, you can install cwm recovery on it and flash a rom, I would reccomend project elite for its great stability. If anything ever goes wrong you can sbf back to stock
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sbf back to stock ... could you expand on that? I don't know what it is. The Motorolas are obviously quite different than the samsungs when doing this stuff ...
Edit: I am having trouble finding the links for downloading the superoneclick, CWM and the ROM. Odin isn't used on this phone? What will I use to install CWM? Project Elite sounds like the one I would want. Stability is key above advanced tools and eye candy. It's for my wife and it will be used as a phone and messaging only pretty much. Maybe a few pictures. I would want the market and all apps she might want to be still accessible.
sbf back to stock= making a Nandroid backup and recovering it in case there is a problem with your ROM install. Did you do that when you flashed Odin onto your Charge? As long as you have your stock ROM backed up, you can go back to it at any time. This can all be accomplished with CWM.
As far as I can tell, Odin is for Samsung devices only. If this is incorrect, someone please set me straight.
CWM is a utility inside the "ROM Manager" app, which is available in the Market.
Here is the Superoneclick Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
I'm just getting started in the custom romming thing, so I couldn't recommend a good bare bones ROM. Good luck in your research!
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sbf back to stock= making a Nandroid backup and recovering it in case there is a problem with your ROM install. Did you do that when you flashed Odin onto your Charge? As long as you have your stock ROM backed up, you can go back to it at any time. This can all be accomplished with CWM.
As far as I can tell, Odin is for Samsung devices only. If this is incorrect, someone please set me straight.
CWM is a utility inside the "ROM Manager" app, which is available in the Market.
Here is the Superoneclick Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
I'm just getting started in the custom romming thing, so I couldn't recommend a good bare bones ROM. Good luck in your research!
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No I haven't used nandroid even though some on Charges do. Odin isn't something you install on your phone. It is a computer based program that you use as an interface between the computer and phone to flash 'tar' files to your phone. ROMS will come in a file format with a .tar.md5 file extension and you use Odin to flash them. There are complete stock 'Odin' ROMS out there that you can use to flash your phone back to stock. This is the fail-safe route I have used when learning to flash that saved me from a few bricked phones. I am leery of flashing her Droid without having the same abilities available to me. A nandroid backup isn't going to do any good if the phone pukes half way through a flash and gets bricked. Or am I incorrect in that statement?
I've seen mention of a windows based app here that I assumed was something akin to Odin. Is there a fail-safe fall back to a stock rom for this phone should you need to recover from a bricked state? I'd hate to flash the wife's phone without knowing going in that I have the ability to recover from a bad flash.
CWM is stand alone on the Charge. You can install it with Odin or other methods such as adb (which I am not familiar with). But getting it through an app is fine too. I would assume there are then zip files available for updating to a more recent version of cwm after a version is on the phone. CWM is also embedded into many ROMs available so that when you flash a ROM via Odin, CWM is on the phone when you boot.
What is the button sequence for entering recovery on the Droid?
Power Key + X on the keyboard.
I assume you have a physical keyboard on this droid.
Don't let these guys scare you off. If you can flash your charge then you should have no problem with an og Droid . I just fixed my sister inlaws the other day . it took me 20 min. Here's a guide anyone could follow . Root Droid 1 - regardless of OS version (driod forums . net ) (I'm not allowed to post the link for some reason) And also I would recommend project elite or cyan 7, both work great.
Okay. So, I've just acquired a Galaxy Tab off eBay. It's on it's way to me, so I thought I'd burn up a few cycles and go download some goods for flashing as soon as I get it.
The setup: ROM version is Gingerbread. Assume Stock ROM. Model is P1000 (Unlocked GSM).
The question is this. I am completely confused as to what I need to do, and I'd like someone to point me in the right direction. With other devices, I would just root, install custom recovery and voila. Non-stock device. Does this same rule apply with the Galaxy Tab, or is it a new ball game?
Basically, what is the easiest way of getting a custom ROM onto my Galaxy Tab? Do I need to use ODIN and co? Or can I do it all via recovery? Is there any n00b guides that explain installing your first ROM?
I don't want to jump through hurdles that I could have avoided. So, that's why I'm asking you for help. Put me out of my confusion, get a +1 thanks in return. Sounds good, no?
Thanks again. Your help is appreciated.
good day sir.
basically is the same with otherdevices,
root it, install clockworkmod, download and install roms
you will need to flash via odin first because stock rom of gtp1000 have limited options in the recovery mode.
after that, all flashings can be done vie clockworkmod recevery... for your convenience search for these ff. keywords:
overcome kernel
overcome rom
zergrush
cm9 rom
humberos.
no need for thanks buton, i just want to ask you to refrain posting posts in the development forums if you think your post will not contribute to the development, too many assholes there beating each other up and flooding the forum of bullshits.
thanks.
Alright, thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it! Seems to be making sense now...
So, basically, with any ROM I flash, I must use ODIN to flash the kernel? Or will the ROM take care of that? I heard the kernel is mixed in with the recovery system, so I'm a little unsure as to what the go is.
no u just need o flash a kernel with clockworkmod recovery and all succeding flashings be it rom, kernel or anything else canbe done using clockworkmod recovery. of course there are exceptions if the developer specifically requires u to flash via odin
You should follow the Overcome Guide for your first flash, it is comprehensive and easy peasy, lemon squeezy
There are some pics missing in the linked page, I have a cached copy from google that you can refer to also.
GL.
Make back up or the original or current rom
I would like to flash my tab with a custom rom, but I also want to be able to revert or go back to the original rom. My question is how you back up your current or original rom so you could restore it back to its original condition? CMIIW but Titanium back up only back up the apps and stuffs but not the rom, or is it?
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I would like to flash my tab with a custom rom, but I also want to be able to revert or go back to the original rom. My question is how you back up your current or original rom so you could restore it back to its original condition? CMIIW but Titanium back up only back up the apps and stuffs but not the rom, or is it?
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Please do not hijack my thread. You should make another thread for that - and that's what CWM is used for - making backups!