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T-Mobile releasing branded Kaiser soon!!!!! T-Mo 3G might support unlocked tilt

T-Mobile releasing branded Kaiser soon!!!!!
All this data obtained from the T-mo FCC filings.
Before anyone says that this is the Mda Vario III used in Europe,
it wouldn't make sense for them to file an application with the FCC,
an independent US government agency.
T-mobile actually filed the application in the summer of last year.
05/11/2007 to be exact. So no wonder they are so "hesitant" to
help us out with our unlocked tilt, they want us to buy their version
when it comes out.
Their branded manual. P 118 is important (the pink color might kill the device)
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=791457&native_or_pdf=pdf
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This is the kaiser taken apart.
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=791448&native_or_pdf=pdf
Them testing it (their "Lab" looks like someones old basement)
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=809973&native_or_pdf=pdf
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=809977&native_or_pdf=pdf
ABOUT 3G
A lot of forums and websites say that tilt uses different frequency then T-mo will offer.
These are the specs they have in the manual
WCDMA / GSM / GPRS / EDGE Module Functionality
HSDPA/UMTS: 2100MHz for Europe, 850/1900/2100MHz for USA, 800/1700/2100MHz for Japan.
Up to 1.8Mbps for download; up to 384Kbps for upload.
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, and 1900)
Internal Antenna
Yes
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So maybe one of your guys can figure out if it uses the same frequency as as the tilt
(if it does hallelujah!!!!) then it must support our as well.
Link to all the filings
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...lledFromFrame=N&application_id=740611&fcc_id=

So....why is page 118 important? It talks about gprs, edge, and hotspot at home. Who cares about that crap?
Also, let me point out a MAJOR problem with your post. In HUGE green letters, you state that t-mobile is releasing a US kaiser soon. I don't profess to be a forum master at xda, I'm not, not by a long shot. However, you're making unsubstantiated claims. You don't KNOW they're releasing one at all, let alone soon. I don't mean to be a ****, but stating that they're going to release one 'soon' just seems silly.

Damnn it looks ugly!

moddin said:
T-Mobile releasing branded Kaiser soon!!!!!
All this data obtained from the T-mo FCC filings.
Before anyone says that this is the Mda Vario III used in Europe,
it wouldn't make sense for them to file an application with the FCC,
an independent US government agency.
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Funny .. I thought my Vario III was a T-Mobile Branded Kaiser
Obviously I was wrong
I suspect the original post is probably T-Mobile USA filing to launch their re-badged Kaiser
Probably the idenitica unit to what ships in Europe

pjwilkin said:
Funny .. I thought my Vario III was a T-Mobile Branded Kaiser
Obviously I was wrong
I suspect the original post is probably T-Mobile USA filing to launch their re-badged Kaiser
Probably the idenitica unit to what ships in Europe
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He mentioned that in the original post, assuming people would say it was the EU version of the kaiser(MDA Vario III). It'll probably end up being some sort of 'MDA' in the states, but saying it's 'coming soon' is jumping the gun. These papers were filed with the FCC a year ago, what part of the documentation gives any indication as to WHEN? None of it.
Not to say that I won't look forward to it, because I certainly will. But when people come on and make these crazy claims it gets out of hand quickly. You need more info brotha, stuff can get held up at the FCC for a LOOONNNGGGG time!

InGeNeTiCs said:
He mentioned that in the original post, assuming people would say it was the EU version of the kaiser(MDA Vario III). It'll probably end up being some sort of 'MDA' in the states, but saying it's 'coming soon' is jumping the gun. These papers were filed with the FCC a year ago, what part of the documentation gives any indication as to WHEN? None of it.
Not to say that I won't look forward to it, because I certainly will. But when people come on and make these crazy claims it gets out of hand quickly. You need more info brotha, stuff can get held up at the FCC for a LOOONNNGGGG time!
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plus it wouldnt be an "identical" version of the kaiser, they're going to have to have a modified one, because the next PPC for Tmobile(USA) is going to be AWS compatible(1700mHz). They'd have to modify it.

tmobile's 3G is on a different Frequency, so u cant use european 3g phones on usa tmobile, or ATT 3G phones on tmobile or tmobile 3g phones on ATT...
they seem to be on different frequencies so u need the branded cellphone they sell to use the 3G in the US.

th1rt3en said:
plus it wouldnt be an "identical" version of the kaiser, they're going to have to have a modified one, because the next PPC for Tmobile(USA) is going to be AWS compatible(1700mHz). They'd have to modify it.
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You have a point. The manual does state that the 1700 is for Japan, not the US. So does it mean in the US it would pick up on 2100? Or is it a typo?

cdma version?

hi!
i'm an italian user.
what's cdma version?
thanks a lot
bye

By definition look here. If you are located in Europe and , then GSM is the exclusive technology of choice.

cdma
put that on your diamond and you will brick it....you have been warned

Yep, liam is right. the CDMA forum will support all CDMA devices from predominantly North American carriers like Verizon, Sprint, Telus, Alltel, Bell, US Cellular, etc.

why is this thread a "sticky"

sheennick123456 said:
why is this thread a "sticky"
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Probably to stop GSM people from trying to flash CDMA.
Good luck, no one reads stickies!

can i convert my gsm diamond to a cdma ????

hmh79 said:
can i convert my gsm diamond to a cdma ????
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Sure, just change your service to a CDMA provider like Sprint, and order a new phone.

hmh79 said:
can i convert my gsm diamond to a cdma ????
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LMFAO .... try that wiki link in the 2nd or 3rd post?

andrea_p1986 said:
hi!
i'm an italian user.
what's cdma version?
thanks a lot
bye
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THIS is CDMA
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Remember if [Your Device] + ESN = different... J00 ish teh anti cdma-er!
rofll0llersk8chopper

glad to see this section finally opened!
indagroove said:
Sure, just change your service to a CDMA provider like Sprint, and order a new phone.
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haha...
why is this so difficult for GSM users...? lol

SOHKis said:
glad to see this section finally opened!
haha...
why is this so difficult for GSM users...? lol
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Cuz GSM is oldschool and its really the only thing that existed when most people started with the whole phone thing blew up...

indagroove said:
Sure, just change your service to a CDMA provider like Sprint, and order a new phone.
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LOL PROPS HAHAHAHA
that was good

hi ... sry that i ask that question if it is realy already answered .....
but how to proof that my phone is cdma or gsm ?? ... where can i controle it in my phone?

ms17-designe said:
hi ... sry that i ask that question if it is realy already answered .....
but how to proof that my phone is cdma or gsm ?? ... where can i controle it in my phone?
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To proof it, turn your phone off, take the battery cover off, take the battery out and set on counter.
Next, figure out your location, if your in Europe, then no need to do anything else, your GSM. If your in the USA, check and see if your carrier qualifies as one of the following (sprint, alltel, verizon, us cellular, telus, bell) If you are one of these, then your are CDMA.
Now this is the tricky part, if you want to switch from GSM to CDMA, do the following:
indagroove said:
Sure, just change your service to a CDMA provider like Sprint, and order a new phone.
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um...
sim card v. no sim card
wtf?

sim card(gsm)
no sim card(cdma)

what is the difference between gsm and cdma
Maybe this article can provide some information for those who just got interested in their mobile phone. It did it's job for me.

so just to make sure, my Sprint Diamond is a cmda right?

Evan_53 said:
so just to make sure, my Sprint Diamond is a cmda right?
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no, its gsm lol....

[Q] Would the T-Mobile HTC One work on Wind Mobile in Canada?

If I scavenge around this site and Google hard enough, I can find this question asked a few times, but none have definitive answers. This is a phone that I'm extremely interested in purchasing, as the Sony XPeria Z and Samsung Galaxy S 4 don't have an appeal remotely close to that of the HTC One's. Wind Mobile is a hard carrier to find phones for it seems, but I'd really love to use this phone on my network. Since the international and LTE variant lack the AWS 3G band to support Wind, would the T-Mobile version be compatible? On T-Mobile's website, it states that the UMTS Band IV is 1700/2100, which should be compatible with Wind's 3G network. I would just like to confirm this is true? Normally, I don't like to start new threads to a simple natured question like this, but I'm pretty much desperate to confirm whether or not I can use this phone. That way I'll know whether or not to get excited, or just stick with my S3. Thanks, it's much appreciated.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=HTC-One-Glacial-Silver

Amartier said:
... Since the international and LTE variant lack the AWS 3G band to support Wind, would the T-Mobile version be compatible?...
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Yes.
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wuZheng said:
Yes.
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Is this tested? Do you own or know someone that actually tested this?

inyallan said:
Is this tested? Do you own or know someone that actually tested this?
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Can anyone confirm this?

Was on wind in the past, yea it's hard to find devices for this carrier because it's strictly on AWS for its data and services.
The HTC One might work...but if I recall correctly you need 1700/1900/2100 frequencies for HSPA+ or something.
If it's anything like the original Galaxy Note, you may have to flash a radio or something to make it compatible with wind IF this phone is pentaband. If it isn't, f forget it because no amount of radio flashing will work if it the hardware doesn't support it.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

Yes it will work I'm using it with wind mobile and mines the T-Mobile version
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2

htc fan89 said:
Yes it will work I'm using it with wind mobile and mines the T-Mobile version
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
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proof? take a pic of your one connected to wind signal
i didnt know it has 1700/2100 for hspa+

DonDizzurp said:
proof? take a pic of your one connected to wind signal
i didnt know it has 1700/2100 for hspa+
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I'm out of country right now, so once I'm back I will post it. By the way t-mobile uses the same bands as wind mobile, apart from having lte also. Other than that there's no differences...T-mobile one has 1700/2100/850/1900

htc fan89 said:
I'm out of country right now, so once I'm back I will post it. By the way t-mobile uses the same bands as wind mobile, apart from having lte also. Other than that there's no differences...T-mobile one has 1700/2100/850/1900
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t-mobile uses something like 1900 LTE since i think last year.. i didnt know they still use AWS/2100

Sorry if that wasn't clear, but the picture is actually linked to dropbox, if you follow it, you'll see that its a screenshot of my TMo HTC One working with the "WIND Home" carrier ID clearly visible.

Anyone know the Stock ROM/or RUU for WIND Mobile??

My S4 Active. Look closely.

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Looking closely .. only thing I'm seeing is that you're on TMO with 4G and 4G/LTE .. is that what you're trying to point out ?

LordGeek said:
Looking closely .. only thing I'm seeing is that you're on TMO with 4G and 4G/LTE .. is that what you're trying to point out ?
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Yes
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537

I read that you can unlock frequencies on factory unlocked phones? It seems to be okay but I would like to double check
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537

At first I thought it was that weird creature in a space suit. Did you get AT&T to give you the code?

joshuadjohnson22 said:
At first I thought it was that weird creature in a space suit. Did you get AT&T to give you the code?
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Yeah it took a week and they had to call me back, but finally got it

I might be in a re-farmed area, but so far I'm getting 4g, and LTE exactly the same as my tmobile iphone 5. Maybe it's already AWS unlocked? How do I tell?

I do want to confirm that I am getting AWS on my factory unlocked S4 Active with no mods. e, 3g, 4g, and LTE. I know this because on my hacked note 2 without the AWS mod i couldn't get all that.

Is that a slothtronaut? Cosmosloth? I didn't know NASA sent those things up.

burhanistan said:
Is that a slothtronaut? Cosmosloth? I didn't know NASA sent those things up.
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LOL yes Slothstronaut

TwoStroker37 said:
I do want to confirm that I am getting AWS on my factory unlocked S4 Active with no mods. e, 3g, 4g, and LTE. I know this because on my hacked note 2 without the AWS mod i couldn't get all that.
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I am only getting 3G on T-Mobile and I'm in a TMO 4G area that has not been re-farmed. I wonder how you are getting 4G??
Edit: I am not able to use the AT&T S4 guide to unlock frequencies as my device reboots when trying to enter the setup menu provided in the instructions.

kevroc said:
I am only getting 3G on T-Mobile and I'm in a TMO 4G area that has not been re-farmed. I wonder how you are getting 4G??
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I'm getting AWS. No idea how. I was told the ATT sim unlock code opens it up like how you hack the NVRAM tag on the N2/S4
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

TwoStroker37 said:
I'm getting AWS. No idea how. I was told the ATT sim unlock code opens it up like how you hack the NVRAM tag on the N2/S4
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Yes, I got the unlock code from them yesterday and the first thing I did was to pop my TMO sim in. Only 3G for me. So then I check my apn settings and configure it for fast.tmo but that doesn't even connect up, had to us EPC.tmo for the 3g to connect.
Did you have to mess with your APN settings?

It took about 3 minutes after putting the SIM in for it to auto configure. Then rebooted and data came online all bands. APN is epc.
Maybe you need a different SIM?
Sent from my S4 Active

TwoStroker37 said:
It took about 3 minutes after putting the SIM in for it to auto configure. Then rebooted and data came online all bands. APN is epc.
Maybe you need a different SIM?
Sent from my S4 Active
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I'd have to second the notion that you might need a new SIM.

I've been taking screen shots. I've had every data possible. e, 3g, h+, 4g, and LTE. The ATT unlock code definately unlocks the AWS flag in the NVRAM.

TwoStroker37 said:
I've been taking screen shots. I've had every data possible. e, 3g, h+, 4g, and LTE. The ATT unlock code definately unlocks the AWS flag in the NVRAM.
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Checking in too. I used an unlocked on eBay for my AT&T Active. Threw in my T-Mobile SIM, settings automatically updated and I as good to go. 4G/LTE. I am in a refarmed area (PDX).

TwoStroker37 said:
Yeah it took a week and they had to call me back, but finally got it
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When I got the code from AT&T it took less than 10mins and I don't even have AT&T. But now they got a new rule about giving unlock codes I had to call twice because the first person wouldn't give me the code but the second did.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Hands down, best wallpaper I've ever seen. I looked closely, as instructed, but couldn't look at anything else but that grinning sloth in astronaut gear.

CPA Poke said:
Hands down, best wallpaper I've ever seen. I looked closely, as instructed, but couldn't look at anything else but that grinning sloth in astronaut gear.
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S4 Active on T mobile with 4G and LTE (aws). It actually gets better signal at my house than my Tmobile Iphone 5 (edge) and my S4A will get H+.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8wr5yJBCv1qkwvzpo1_1280.jpg

[Video] Verizon On my nexus 5

Took the sim out of my Verizon s4 and was determined to get this N5 up and running on big red.
I have full lte after a lot of tweaks that I probably shouldn't post right now do to what it could possibly do to a phone.
If you are a Dev and think you can do more with this let me know and I'll get you to where I'm at. I'm just a themer with basic dev knowledge. As you can see there is no signal to text or call. I've had bars a few times but that's it. As you see I'm on L. I had to crop one screen on phone because of upload size restrictions.
Youtube video Screencast:
http://youtu.be/gsqtxGojofM
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Looks interesting so far. I can't recall whether this device supports VZW's frequencies. If not, calls may never work.
I'll assume you modified the APN for VZW. Did you try modifying the radio?
If you post what you did to get data working, other members may have some additional suggestions to get you moving again.

its been gotten to, the lte connecting. but it's the calling ability that cant be done. i dont remember what all really came about, but i do remember thst the calling ability is the real issue. the nexus 5 doesnt have the ability to make phonecalls via lte. if you search the forums here, maybe you can find the thread.

simms22 said:
its been gotten to, the lte connecting. but it's the calling ability that cant be done. i dont remember what all really came about, but i do remember thst the calling ability is the real issue. the nexus 5 doesnt have the ability to make phonecalls via lte. if you search the forums here, maybe you can find the thread.
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I'm no expert but I don't see why it can't. With some kind of modification to radio or whatever.

St3rdroids said:
I'm no expert but I don't see why it can't. With some kind of modification to radio or whatever.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47378482&postcount=18

simms22 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47378482&postcount=18
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Explains why I get signal and it goes away. I happen to have an active imei on Verizon I'll check it out.

geez, if you could get me to that point it be so sweet.

coolguy71261 said:
geez, if you could get me to that point it be so sweet.
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Calls won't work for two reasons 1) I don't think Verizon uses VoLTE yet, and 2) calls still use 1x, just like Sprint, and you have to have the MEID (IMEI minus last digit I believe) in Verizon's database. Technically it should work on Page Plus and I think I saw a thread here on how to flash it for PP. I'm kind of surprised Verizon LTE works as most of the bands for Verizon's LTE don't coincide with the N5 IIRC. I could be wrong about that though. Also it's probably like any other GSM carrier, once you activate the SIM card in a carrier based phone, you can stick it in another phone and it should just activate. The only reason you have to change IMEIs is for the EVDO/1x backwards compatibility.

MrObvious said:
Calls won't work for two reasons 1) I don't think Verizon uses VoLTE yet, and 2) calls still use 1x, just like Sprint, and you have to have the MEID (IMEI minus last digit I believe) in Verizon's database. Technically it should work on Page Plus and I think I saw a thread here on how to flash it for PP. I'm kind of surprised Verizon LTE works as most of the bands for Verizon's LTE don't coincide with the N5 IIRC. I could be wrong about that though. Also it's probably like any other GSM carrier, once you activate the SIM card in a carrier based phone, you can stick it in another phone and it should just activate. The only reason you have to change IMEIs is for the EVDO/1x backwards compatibility.
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Volte should be working by q2015 everywhere

coolguy71261 said:
Volte should be working by q2015 everywhere
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Hmm, we'll see how it works then.

MrObvious said:
Hmm, we'll see how it works then.
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i may return to big red, im currently testing out net 10

Posted a video of me getting data after a fresh wipe and install of L.

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/08/26/verizon-volte-hd-voice-launch/

I really need to remember to watch OP's video when I get home. This is very exciting. So to get data, you had to activate a Verizon device and swap SIMs, right? After that, the only thing not working is the CDMA voice? So in theory, if the above poser's link is correct (Verizon rolling out VoLTE soon) I could actually switch to them?
It's Verizon so I probably wouldn't do it permanently, but it would be cool to try for a month, if for nothing more than a proof of concept or neat trick. Hope Verizon does that soon.

This just won't work bro, not on CDMA.
I worked for Sprint and their system is the same.
The SIM card is strictly for LTE, everything else goes over the CDMA network, which requires server authentication.
Even when VoLTE will roll out, that authentication will remain in place.

People have got data in the past. Its voice that's the issue.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

he can get voice & sms on it, though not via the sim card number;
I replied to the video with -
"..though it won't be your Verizon mobile number;
you could try using ring.to / grooveIP for voice / sms via the lte connection..
I use that as a back up number on sprint, mostly for lte , wifi , evdo routed calls,
even gsm / hspa+ & wifi when sim swapped out of the country on my nexus 5.
after editing the echo settings, it should work wonders thru that Verizon lte connection.."

rootSU said:
People have got data in the past. Its voice that's the issue.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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just thought of something, real simple..
the cdma radio authentication is what's stopping the nexus 5 from being on Verizon,
but... **does the lte band need the same authentication**?
let's just say, on my nexus 5, with the new google voice hangouts / sprint number integration,
i go through the dialer into settings to toggle **lte only** which disables the cdma radio,
pop in a Verizon unlimited data sim, in an area with verizon's band 4..
over the top, voip service on lte..?
~shrugz shoulderz~