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alright it is with great pain that i am writing this, but i really need some help here. for months i've read the forums, searched for answers, asked little individual questions, IMed with people directly for help... and i'm still having trouble.
i rooted my T-Mobile G1 all the way back when cupcake first came out. everything was great. life was grand. everything ruled. i was a happy android fanboy, talking friends into switching to android, talking crap about iphones... the works... but slowly things started getting slower and slower and slower...
the obvious thing was to wipe and reflash. i was constantly just updating to newer cyanogen roms at that point without wiping. so i wiped to the newest cyanogen at the time (can't remember at this point, but just picture it was like a couple months after cupcake). so things were good again for a little bit, but then it started slowing down again, getting FC's, etc. so a friend recommended i switch to superD... i did, and again, everything was great for a while. i consistently upgraded superD roms (sometimes wiping in between sometimes not). eventually i got to the point where i was on the most recent superD release. it lasted about a day before things started slowing down. examples include when i hit home to exit an application and go to the home screen, the whole screen would either turn black or just show my wallpaper for a good 5 seconds before my home screen would appear, or opening the browser would take like 10 seconds. lots of slow down.
so with the help of a friend i decided to completely wipe and reformat/repartition my sd card. i bought titanium backup but i didn't even bother with it, i said to myself, look, you barely use any of the stuff you have right now, how about just start fresh and reinstall things as you need them manually. so i formatted, repartitioned (using amon Ra's recovery, using the menu option that helps you do it automatically). i made sure i had the most recent radio and spl (this was just a couple months ago), and reflashed the most recent superD (i think its 1.11 if i remember correctly)... again, maybe one day of good performance before everything slowed down. this was also about the time when my battery life started becoming an issue. i'm not exaggerating when i say i couldn't make it home without breaking under 20% battery by the end of the day... and i really don't use my phone THAT much. i'd say i'm a little above average on my usage. i'll get into my widgets and apps in a second, but i really don't use that much stuff...
SO... continuing my story (thanks for sticking with me if you're still reading...). when cyanogens 2.1 for the g1 rom came out (5.0.8d/s) i decided it was time for a change. i reformatted AGAIN, repartioned AGAIN, and flashed 5.0.8. basically, i've got the same story going on. slowdowns, poor battery life, etc.
so here i am with my cyanogen 5.0.8 flashed g1. let me tell you about apps and widgets and stuff. right now i have a regular wallpaper (not live), 14 icons between my 5 screens and just the google search and power management widgets. i used to have calwidget, the genie widget (both news and weather), and the setcpu widgets too, but i decided to take them off to see if it would help with performance. zero help. apps that i either know for sure are always running or i think may have some impact are twidroyd, newsrob, craigsnotif (craigslist notifier), and dealdroid. i don't think any other apps are running and/or do automatic updates for content and stuff like that.
i also use cachemate (purchased) regularly to clear my caches. apps2sd is enabled.
i'm not sure what other information you'd need to help me out, but just let me know and i'll try to give you more details.
right now, i've got slow down like almost all the time. things are constantly pausing, slowing down. i feel like i'm back on my t-mobile mda with winmo5 haha. and forget about it with the battery. i left the house with 90% battery this morning. i went to the gym. went home. picked up lunch. came to work. its been like 4 hours. i currently have 19% battery. all i've done is make 2 phone calls, about a dozen text messages and i've sent 2 tweets (about my battery problem haha). i also used google maps once to look up a number. my wifi and gps is off.
so there we go. really guys, please please please. help me out if you can. any help would be appreciated. i'm so sick of this. and i'm stuck in contract until july 2011. so i'm not getting a new phone any time soon. i gotta figure this thing out.
i really appreciate your help.
thanks.
Dave
OH... and PS... forgot to mention that I just got a new battery this week thinking maybe the battery was just getting old and bad. obviously, no such luck.
I had the same issues till I flashed a SuperD, then everything was fine. I just recently flashed the Froyo from Cyanogen and its like it fixed everything and I'm on a brand new device (knock on wood)!
How old is your G1? Do we know if there are issues with the first run out of the factory? Is that even an issue?
i got the g1 last july. so it was already out for a while at that point. it was new from a store though. i suppose there could be something actually wrong with the phone itself, but i don't know. i was thinking of trying the cyanogen froyo but because its not a stable release yet i figured it would be just this bad or worse...
I promise cm5.0.8 has wonderful battery life when no custom apps are installed and not on any network..
so the question is what is your phone doing, and ought it be doing what it is doing.
There are some nice built in tools for this
Applications->running services
And
Applications -> manage applications (check out the filter in the menu from that screen)
You may be surprised by the apps the think they need to constantly have a service running for some painful trivial job the android API has better interfaces for.. if in addition to that you don't need the app uninstall it.
Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.
another example, as i was reading this i was on the phone and i just finished the call and hung up, and i was previously in text messages, it took 12 seconds for my text messages to come up. thats just insane...
as for running services:
- GTalkService <--- I use GTalk all the time
- GenieRefresh Service (Restarting) <--- weird considering I disabled this widget, although I'd LIKE to have it back
- Maps FriendsAppWidgetUpdater (Restarting) <--- never used this in my life
- NewsRob UnreadWidgetProvidor (Restarting) <--- never used the widget before (as a matter of fact, you have to pay to use the widget and i have the free version... weird)
-Twidroyd Background Service <--- understandable, I use this constantly
- AKNotepad Snaptic Update (Restarting) <---- umm... I use this all the time but I don't know why a notepad program would need an updater service running... interesting...
- Swype <---- gotta have that
- CM Updater (Restarting) <--- Don't really think that needs to be on all the time. Can easily manually refresh that...
So that's it. I didn't realize this was included now. Very cool. On older roms I had to use task managers which don't seem to really work. I'm going to stop everything except twidroyd, gtalk and swype right now and see how that does... at the bottom it says Avail: 3.2MB+0.00B in 0 ... Other: 55MB in 4 ... While typing that the Maps FriendsAppWidget just popped back up... I'm gonna see if theres a setting...
In the meantime, does any of this give you any ideas? thank you so much for the advice. Also what does (Restarting) mean?
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Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.
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oh and i have compcache not checked and launcher in memory IS checked... i just tried turning on the compcache option... lets see how that goes...
ok so...
now that i know about those things that were running, i stopped all the ones i don't need, and also went into the apps to see if there was any options for turning off automatic updates, background syncing, etc etc for those things... i'm gonna charge my phone while getting ready to go out and then we'll see how it goes throughout the evening. lets see if i make it home with more than 20% battery left (i'll be gone for like 5 hours). if so then we're on to something here still i find it weird that i can't have a few widgets loaded. but whatever, i'll take a smoothly running phone that lasts all day and i just have to click on icons to get to stuff any day... thanks for the help, i'll let you know how its going tomorrow.
the next day
ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
so back to square one... any ideas guys?
thanks so much for any help you can give me. i really really appreciate it.
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ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
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Um... The compcache instability scares me a bit
Compcache has had issues (maybe still does) where the first time you enable it the phone crashes.. but then works fine with Compcache on reboot. Otherwise it really ought no make the phone unstable. (it may or may not speed things up depending on how memory is being used.. usually however it allows 12MB of memory that is rarely used to be compressed, allowing a little more active memory to be utilized) You may want to look into wiping dalvik-cache both on the internal memory and SD card:
Enter console and run (this will restart the phone)
Code:
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /cache/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /sd-ext/dalvik-cache/*
reboot
if you get an error about no files found thats not an issue; but other errors may indicate a problem.
This may help system stability (with or without compcache) .. but won't do anything about the battery life (nor speed unless something was seriously wrong)
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Unfortunately you will either need to erase all your apps and just run stock CM5 [maybe slowly restore your apps you really need] -- OR -- be very patient and debug whatever application(s) are causing issues on your phone (and maybe complain to the dev for failing to read/understand google's documentation on how to write android applications.. not that some of the google apps haven't quite figured that out until recently)
Thus again the main question is what is running on your phone.. The places I mentioned before allow you to see the services (most of which usually restart if you run the related application again) but not strictly all the details to look for.
Example 1 An widget service is likely holding onto memory starving timer services (those not listed) and swapping out other services (phone/launcher making everything feel slow) At the same time the widget is not very active usually and may not connect to the internet at all; thus may not reduce battery life.
Example 2 An IM client on the other hand may requires a service to keep TCP/IP connections alive, and if not coded properly may be very persistent and cause a slow continual stream of data from your phone requiring a large amount of power to keep the phone on 2G/Edge.
Example 3 A Task killer an kill tasks that re-spawn, or kill a task in use if it doesn't know better causing things to behave in strange ways.. so can killing services/applications from the setting screens btw.. but at least that is a one off by user decision not a automatic operation in the background. Tasks when re-spawned may require more data from the internet thus more power to 2G/Edge
User: Then the one that causes me the most problems: A user that keeps the phone in his/her pocket rather than surfing the web, checking XDA, or continuously checking the battery level is using the device less thus will have longer battery life. (careful to not fall into this trap)
Other Ideas:
SetCPU: set the sleep CPU low in profiles (sleep for me is 245/160)[/*]
Verify End action: Settings->End Button Behavior->Go to sleep[/*]
Set longer periods between polls in applications that poll the net (example twitter every 10 or 20mins.. not 5)[/*]
Larger net transfers on wifi if available (example tell newsrob to sync on wifi only) wifi drains the battery faster than idle, but is much cheaper if larger amounts of data are involved.[/*]
As you can see many things will impact the system. You will need to find the ones eating your battery
Another helpful screen for debugging this may be Settings->Spare Parts->Battery History and Settings->Spare Parts->Usage Statistics
I get between 4h and 12h batter life under semi-normal conditions. 4h = surfing 3g + tappatalk + games.. 12h check email/tweat if i get one.. otherwise stays in my pocket. I've seen my test phone hang out for days on a 2g network without data. (so you can always set your apn type to mms if you just need it to be a phone for many hours.. mms keeps mms support btw)
Ebuddy (and most other MSN/AIM/ect chat clients is frequently one of the biggest problems on my phone.. so if I need more battery those are the first to go.. and whomever it is can poke me on gtalk/txt/or wait
Good luck in your search.. Took me a while to make cm5 work as long as cm4.. most of it was mis-behaving apps that I either know to shut off when I need longer battery life.. or have found replacements for.. or avoid widget functionality if the widget was misconfigured. (
I have had my phone for about 2 weeks now, and this has been an issue since about day 1. I will set my phone aside while doing other things. When I want to use it I pick it up and press the power button to activate the screen. It seems that about 20% of the time the phone is non-responsive. I can't even receive calls/texts/email while it is in this state. I end up pressing the power button for 10 seconds or pulling the battery to get it to reboot. Everything seems to work fine.
I have heard that this could be a result of a reception issue, and that an update would be released in September to solve this issue. Is this information correct? Has the update already been released? I believe I am running the most current version, 2.1 update 1
Is there a software fix? Do I have a defective unit that needs to be sent in for repair? Is there a setting I need to look at? Any assistance would be appreciated.
you are describing the typical scenario of too many background services and apps running taking up too much resources thus making the phone non reponsive
install Auto Run Killer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8123924&postcount=40
then tick all the apps to disable reboot your phone
then you can choose which apps you really want to let lose for it to run in the background
It's also entirely possible it's faulty though
I don't think it is a matter of apps running because there are no active apps running when I am not using my phone.
I guess I am looking for an answer that tells me that this is an known issue with this model and I wiould be better off with a different product, or if I will be safe to get it replaced/repaired.
Ideally I would love to hear it is only a matter of a software patch or something similar.
go get an iphone
there is no point helping some one that have their mind already set on their own ideas already
Well that was a pretty useless post. The only idea my mind is set on is to get my hands on a dependabel phone, preferably the one I have. You suggested too many apps running, fine, but unless they run automatically on reboot and/or the 'active applications' window that runs by default is inacurate, there aren't too many resources being used and nothing running.
you'll be surprised what runs under the hood
you can run this and find out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8156087&postcount=58
Android System Info
another good thing to disable is the Media Scan
AllGamer said:
go get an iphone
there is no point helping some one that have their mind already set on their own ideas already
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Don't be so quick to assume your suggestion was correct either, AllGamer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775017
Thus far nothing in that thread has suggested taxing the system too far. In fact, hardly installing anything at all from a fresh factory reset still has this problem and no one yet has really worked out why aside Samsung saying the hardware is damaged. I was on the phone to them today, same thing said.
i read that before and the signal theory doesn't hold truth
if that is the case, every time i go to the toilet, or to the stairs in my office building (way deep in the building) you have Zero reception at all, yet I've never experience the freeze on black screen issue.
same goes with walmart, it's true, most walmart warehouse like buildings have extremely poor cell phone reception inside.
assuming that signal is the cause issue is true, then installing this app will prevent that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8172580&postcount=59
Mobile Signal Widget
I'll highly recommend this app for anyone experiencing the issue and are under the impression the signal issue is the cause of the frozen black screen
AllGamer said:
i read that before and the signal theory doesn't hold truth
if that is the case, every time i go to the toilet, or to the stairs in my office building (way deep in the building) you have Zero reception at all, yet I've never experience the freeze on black screen issue.
same goes with walmart, it's true, most walmart warehouse like buildings have extremely poor cell phone reception inside.
assuming that signal is the cause issue is true, then installing this app will prevent that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8172580&postcount=59
Mobile Signal Widget
I'll highly recommend this app for anyone experiencing the issue and are under the impression the signal issue is the cause of the frozen black screen
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I see no truth in the signal claim I've said why in the other thread. But this is the point, it is an issue a few of us are having from all over the place but as of yet there is absolutely no distinguishable pattern. As I say, a completely fresh phone with official firmware and no installs also has the problems. It's a very frustrating situation because no one can conclusively point to software or hardware yet. Samsung keep saying the same thing, send it in, send it in..
it's true the only way to diagnose those will require to be hands on, and run tests to pin point exactly what is causing that.
Eclair doesn't have the option to auto upgrade, so that's definitely not it
Lag is likely, but what, or which stock apps can cause so much lag?
signal even when the phone is having a hard time switching and scanning for a new signal it shouln't keep the phone unresponsive for such a long period of time unless it's lagging
my Old Treo did that, anytime it lost signal and regained signal there was a minor pause, or a looooooong pause if the phone was lagging
if this is the same case with the SGS we just need to figure out which App is running in the background that is dragging the entire system down.
it could be the internal SD which might have become defective, thus locking up the phone, similar to those people that can't get past the boot screen
i can't think of any other plausible causes at the moment.
Well, I can tell you: having experienced the problem a number of times, it is almost certainly not the lag scenario you have described - this is a proper lock-up. My guess (since it does appear to have some correlation to cell switching, or other signal-related issue) is a bug in the baseband drivers, or something similar, resulting in a panic. I might see if there's any way to get a dump out of this thing to prove it, but at the moment it's just a guess, so I'm not going to tell you that's the definitely the reason, or that you're stupid if you don't agree, even though I'm more qualified to do so, since I've actually experienced the problem.
AllGamer said:
go get an iphone
there is no point helping some one that have their mind already set on their own ideas already
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Android is designed to not need auto task killers. It is purely a myth that they are needed whatsoever. This is linux we're talking about here, not windows.... It's possible he has a single app installed causing the issue, but the ideal fix would be to figure it out one app at a time and get rid of the faulty app.
Perhaps not random, but possibly keyboard related. I believe I have experienced at least three, perhaps more reboots at various times. I just had one a minute ago when I opened my keyboard from a sleep state (dark screen). My lockscreen had what looked like a Droid X background which caught my attention, then after a couple of seconds, it rebooted.
As I mentioned, this has happened at least twice before, but always when I was trying to do something and (I believe) involving the keyboard. I've never had it reboot in the middle of anything, so the impact is negligible. Add to that how FAST the D3 reboots, it's a very minor annoyance. My old Tbolt used to do that as well, but the reboot time was probably three or four times as long, and it sometimes did it in the middle of something.
Has anyone else experienced this? If you have, sound off and perhaps we can get Moto's attention. If it's just me, then that's great news and I doubt I'll do anything about it since the impact is so minor.
It's hard not to notice since it makes the "Droid" noise when it reboots. Assuming you don't have the same sound assigned to a notification of course.
I noticed it yesterday once (and I just got the phone then too ;-; ), and it was while I was opening the camera app, I decided to open the keyboard for some reason (I don't know why), the phone locked up for a minute and then just rebooted. I also had a temporary lockup while opening up the keyboard while opening Handcent, but it regained responsiveness after about 15 seconds. For me it happens to be something to do with the keyboard while opening apps. We need more people to reproduce this problem so we can get down to the root cause :|
Got two droid 3`s in my house and haven't experience any random boots.
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Happened to me while talking on the phone a few times. Got a replacement and it happened again. Never with the keyboard though. Very troubling especially with the second handset.
I have experienced reboots with the camera and camcorder apps lagging, and just general issues with those apps anyway.
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I haven't had it happen since I originally posted until today. Today it rebooted in my pocket.
Perhaps it could just be a heat issue. I noticed that another thing along with my other conditions I posted was that the phone felt really hot.
Immolate said:
Perhaps not random, but possibly keyboard related. I believe I have experienced at least three, perhaps more reboots at various times. I just had one a minute ago when I opened my keyboard from a sleep state (dark screen). My lockscreen had what looked like a Droid X background which caught my attention, then after a couple of seconds, it rebooted.
As I mentioned, this has happened at least twice before, but always when I was trying to do something and (I believe) involving the keyboard. I've never had it reboot in the middle of anything, so the impact is negligible. Add to that how FAST the D3 reboots, it's a very minor annoyance. My old Tbolt used to do that as well, but the reboot time was probably three or four times as long, and it sometimes did it in the middle of something.
Has anyone else experienced this? If you have, sound off and perhaps we can get Moto's attention. If it's just me, then that's great news and I doubt I'll do anything about it since the impact is so minor.
It's hard not to notice since it makes the "Droid" noise when it reboots. Assuming you don't have the same sound assigned to a notification of course.
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The Droid 3 has a dual core 1 ghz processor processor built inside which is why it starts up so fast. Its probably having these problems because of the new android OS gingerbread 2.3.2 because of how new this operating system is. The first phone designed with the new OS for verizon wireless was the sony xperia which produced surprisingly a very good battery life with the processer designed for gaming built inside that phone.this reminds me of the first droid on Verizon the Motorola Droid A855 where there where some flukes where it would freeze up every now and then. But there were updates that eventually solved the problem. Because this is a relatively new OS there is deffinittely going to be some flukes in the software and there will be updates to solve these most likely coming soon. And especially as more and more users are buying this phone.
justinsaunders57 said:
The Droid 3 has a dual core 1 ghz processor processor built inside which is why it starts up so fast. Its probably having these problems because of the new android OS gingerbread 2.3.2 because of how new this operating system is. The first phone designed with the new OS for verizon wireless was the sony xperia which produced surprisingly a very good battery life with the processer designed for gaming built inside that phone.this reminds me of the first droid on Verizon the Motorola Droid A855 where there where some flukes where it would freeze up every now and then. But there were updates that eventually solved the problem. Because this is a relatively new OS there is deffinittely going to be some flukes in the software and there will be updates to solve these most likely coming soon. And especially as more and more users are buying this phone.
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1. Everyone knows that it's dual-core.
2. It runs Android 2.3.4. (Hence no root yet)
3. To the OP, no reboots. Had it since the 13th.
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I haven't seen another reboot since the 28th but I did have the odd experience last night of not being able to get a new wallpaper to take. In fact, I noticed that it had one of the stock wallpapers on it, the diagonal black and grey bars, but couldn't change it. Then this morning I thought about it and rebooted the phone. The last wallpaper I'd tried to change it to came up on reboot. Interesting but not alarming... unless it starts doing that frequently.
FYI I haven't noticed it running hot at any point.
Thanks for all the input everyone.
Probably seen it do it half a dozen times. IIRC it's not a full reboot, just the Android stack (i.e., same Linux kernel instance).
Have a logcat of one and don't seen anything that suggests where the problem is..just a whole bunch of "com.xxxxxx.xxxx has died" followed by normal restart log messages.
Odd that you all are experiencing this. I have not had a single reboot.
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This issue is starting to cause me a good bit of frustration. Most of the time it occurs when waking the phone (sliding out keyboard seems to make it particularly likely). Also seeing complete freezes now which require battery pull.
Phone is now more than 30 days old. It was purchased online. Anyone know the odds of getting a *NEW* (not refurbished) if attempting to return it now? I'm still pretty certain this is a software issue, but may try replacing it in the chance it isn't.
I went into wifi settings and chose to forget all the connections. No more random rebooted.
rustynutzz said:
I went into wifi settings and chose to forget all the connections. No more random rebooted.
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I wouldn't count on that being the issue.
I've had the problem out in the field (not connected to WiFi) and have had random reboots as well.
Heres a tip for troubleshooting this issue which i 90% guarantee - factory reset your phones put zero apps on them and tweaks, use it for a week and see if u get a reboot.
Then each week after add a single tweak or app(install/uninstall/freeze), may take a yr for some of us since we can't seem to stop downloading random badly coded apps lol...
-smc
For me at least SMC, I've had random reboots from stock during the first week. I'm putting it down to bad software for now.
I usually get 1 a week, sometimes less.
tliebeck said:
This issue is starting to cause me a good bit of frustration. Most of the time it occurs when waking the phone (sliding out keyboard seems to make it particularly likely). Also seeing complete freezes now which require battery pull.
Phone is now more than 30 days old. It was purchased online. Anyone know the odds of getting a *NEW* (not refurbished) if attempting to return it now? I'm still pretty certain this is a software issue, but may try replacing it in the chance it isn't.
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The same thing was happening to me, the whole rebooting and I went to Verizon for a replacement and got a refurbished DROID 3 Not a New :\
I really hope they fix this because its really bugging me. >:\
-eXsoR
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I get a random reboot usually once a week or sometimes twice a week. It depends on how often I use my camera too.
Hello everyone.
I'm running on cocore 9.8 and ikaster's pure vanilla rom, with hungarian baseband. I would say I'm moderately satisfied with the phones performance most of the time. I mean apps run smoothly, except when I have a program running(lets say WAZE, facebook, clash of clans, or even poweramp) and I get a call. This makes the phone lag hard, if it manages to proceed to showing the dial screen in time, and I get to actually pick up the phone, it still lags for about 5-10 second while the calling party is waiting for me to join the conversation. What I must say could be really embarrassing and annoying. What I am looking for is a solution for this. What I thought about, is to set up a process what clears my memory, or exit the application running right when the call comes in. Since 95% of the time I'm not doing anything uninterruptable on the phone (clash of clans or facebook) I wouldnt mind shutting down Everything for a call. Because it's a phone afterall, and I want to be able to pick it up.
I'm also ready to switch rom's if it is necessary to obtain better multitasking or prioritizing, if it's worth the hassle. I've been reading the hyped roms lately, but the responses are pretty mixed, and I'm not confident enough it is worth spending hours on installing a different rom(i know installing takes minutes, but costumizing, installing applications, and generally getting familiar with the new stuffs could take a whole bunch of time), I would love to try them all, but I just dont have the time to mess around with it. Besides I have work calls to make quite often. I'm aware that you are not allowed to recommend any rom (try it for yourself is the policy), but I would like to know if you think I could get better experience if I switch maybe to the indian baseband or the latest italian, or go with cm 10.2, even if there is any way to fix this problem.
How i got along with the phone is that I clean the background applications mostly after I'm done using the phone for now, this way it responds fine, and works alright. But sadly I can't do that when a call comes in. I don't even understand why this is have to go this way, since what I've read is that the OS should deal with the background applications and ram management, but somehow it doesnt seem to work as smooth as it should and it often requires manual cleaning. Also i do not use task killers (i've read they do more harm than good), I do it manually long pressing the home button.
again what i see as the easiest and 'best' option is to find a way to make the phone do this automatically whenever a call comes in, and possibly do it before the ram gets filled up and the phones goes numb.
Thank you for your help in advance
I bought a used Droid Bionic off eBay cheap as a temporary replacement for my broken Samsung S3 to last until contract renewal time. But, this thing is just a turd. It's a PITA to use.
I'm running SlimKat in Slot 1. That's the only custom ROM I have installed. But it's just as slow if I boot the stock rom (and was before I rooted or did any customizing).
When I get a call, it rings several times before the screen wakes up so I can answer it. A couple times, the call has gone to voicemail before the screen woke up so I could answer the call. The capacitive buttons light up, it vibrates, the ringtone plays, but the screen stays dark until the 3rd ring.
Sometimes it takes 10 or 15 seconds just to get the keyboard to come up when I touch a text entry box. Doesn't matter what app or what keyboard I use.
Sometimes it takes so long for it to respond to a touch that I don't know if it registered my touch so I touch the screen again then a few seconds later it registers both touches which totally screws up whatever I was trying to do and I have to start over.
Sometimes I just want to throw this thing against a brick wall. It would be very satisfying to watch it shatter into pieces. It's frustrating me so much, I'm seriously thinking of borrowing a friend's old iPhone... Just typing that made me feel dirty, but that's how bad it is.
I don't see anybody else complaining. What's wrong with my phone?
HeathicusF said:
I bought a used Droid Bionic off eBay....
....I don't see anybody else complaining. What's wrong with my phone?
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Have you tried running LagFix (from the Play Store; I am unable to post a link)? My phone slowed significantly over time while running CM11 nightlies; I occasionally boot into stock and run LagFix and it does clear up a fair number of slowdowns. This seems the most likely cause which would impact both stock and slot performance.
It's not ROM but the battery that makes phone slow over the time... Old battery creates static charge and unable to generate enough discharge to run the phone.
Replace the battery with the new one.. And you are good to go...
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I tried LagFix, but got an error saying it was incompatible.
My battery does die awfully fast, so I've ordered a replacement. I have doubts about that fixing the slowness, but I needed a new battery anyway so it won't be a total loss if it doesn't work.
HeathicusF said:
I bought a used Droid Bionic off eBay cheap as a temporary replacement for my broken Samsung S3 to last until contract renewal time. But, this thing is just a turd. It's a PITA to use.
I'm running SlimKat in Slot 1. That's the only custom ROM I have installed. But it's just as slow if I boot the stock rom (and was before I rooted or did any customizing).
When I get a call, it rings several times before the screen wakes up so I can answer it. A couple times, the call has gone to voicemail before the screen woke up so I could answer the call. The capacitive buttons light up, it vibrates, the ringtone plays, but the screen stays dark until the 3rd ring.
Sometimes it takes 10 or 15 seconds just to get the keyboard to come up when I touch a text entry box. Doesn't matter what app or what keyboard I use.
Sometimes it takes so long for it to respond to a touch that I don't know if it registered my touch so I touch the screen again then a few seconds later it registers both touches which totally screws up whatever I was trying to do and I have to start over.
Sometimes I just want to throw this thing against a brick wall. It would be very satisfying to watch it shatter into pieces. It's frustrating me so much, I'm seriously thinking of borrowing a friend's old iPhone... Just typing that made me feel dirty, but that's how bad it is.
I don't see anybody else complaining. What's wrong with my phone?
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Not sure what you are doing to your Bionic to make it so slow. Mine is by far no speed demon but definitely not slow. Do you have a lot of unnecessary crap such as widgets, themes, etc.. running?
matriX1218 said:
It's not ROM but the battery that makes phone slow over the time... Old battery creates static charge and unable to generate enough discharge to run the phone.
Replace the battery with the new one.. And you are good to go...
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That is debatable.
mikemikemikexxx said:
Not sure what you are doing to your Bionic to make it so slow. Mine is by far no speed demon but definitely not slow. Do you have a lot of unnecessary crap such as widgets, themes, etc.. running?
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Not at all. The only widget I use is the calendar widget. I use Nova launcher, trimmed down to one home screen. No themes. No games. Only a handful of apps and most of those are utilities (ES File Explorer, Swifkey, Dropbox, XBMC remote, an alarm clock, etc.). Facebook is the only social media app.
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Not at all. The only widget I use is the calendar widget. I use Nova launcher, trimmed down to one home screen. No themes. No games. Only a handful of apps and most of those are utilities (ES File Explorer, Swifkey, Dropbox, XBMC remote, an alarm clock, etc.). Facebook is the only social media app.
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That is bizarre, must be Slim Kat. I am on CM M8 and while it does have some minor slow downs sometimes but nothing what you describe.
(A good time to update SafeStrap if you are not on the newest version)
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I tried LagFix, but got an error saying it was incompatible.
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LagFix has to be run from the stock install, rather than from a custom rom slot; it will then work only on the /data partition, which is normal.
Concerning the delay in pulling up the screen for an incoming call, I also have that same issue inconsistently on CM11 nightlies - it's often the third pulse of the motor before the screen wakes up. I haven't found a good solution to this, as it seems to be related to the phone being in deep sleep with the second core hot-unplugged. You may be able to increase the responsiveness at the cost of battery life by increasing the minimum processor speed or using a different governor, but I haven't experimented with this systematically enough to make a recommendation.
I found a solution!!
A new Samsung Galaxy S5 will be here tomorrow.
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Battery effecting speed seems quite farfetched. If you say it's "static charge" that really means nothing. Maybe you mean it won't source enough current. Therefore effecting processor speed? If so then plugging in would fix you up.