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Ordered iPhone 4 for wife

I ordered the iPhone from Verizon for my wife and was planning on using it til the thunderbolt cones out. I've been an android enthusiasts for a while I just wondered if I was going to rott in hell for this one, its like going tobthe Christian church and then becoming a satist. Or so I hear. I'm just ready for some good battery life again, I should be ashamed of myself
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Enjoy living in apple's walled playground.
Having an iphone is like being 17, it's awesome but it could be so much better.
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Ifone sucks
Viva Android ;p

Bjork62 said:
Ifone sucks
Viva Android ;p
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I disagree, the iphone has amazing hardware and software and the app store is unrivaled. But it's a shame that Apple doesn't allow for a little more freedom.
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My condolences...
ksizzle9 said:
I ordered the iPhone from Verizon for my wife and was planning on using it til the thunderbolt cones out. I've been an android enthusiasts for a while I just wondered if I was going to rott in hell for this one, its like going tobthe Christian church and then becoming a satist. Or so I hear. I'm just ready for some good battery life again, I should be ashamed of myself
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I don't understand the iPhone hate in the world. The psychologist in me says there must be some jealousy. The iPhone does some things very, VERY well. It's beautifully designed hardware. It's very reliable and generally just works.
That said, there's a few reasons I like Android better:
- Better, less intrusive notification system
- More freedom in what to use - no apps blocked out because of stupid rules (think Google Voice)
- Swype keyboard availability
- Google Maps GPS
But the iPhone has:
- Better Applications, especially games
- Better hardware design (aesthetically) than any Android phone
- Less platform fragmentation and more regular updates
If Apple licensed Swype, and created something other than their pop-up notifications, I would seriously consider switching. No questions. Both are great products and should be recognized as such. Windows Phone 7 is also very nice for those who only need to do what it can do.

I'm surprised you don't hear it said more often but i've always seen the iphone as more of a ladies device, whereas Android is more for the gents.
Is that just me?
Men are generally more practical and we enjoy our tools, (ahem), ladies like to accessorise.

Mark Uhde said:
I don't understand the iPhone hate in the world. The psychologist in me says there must be some jealousy. The iPhone does some things very, VERY well. It's beautifully designed hardware. It's very reliable and generally just works.
That said, there's a few reasons I like Android better:
- Better, less intrusive notification system
- More freedom in what to use - no apps blocked out because of stupid rules (think Google Voice)
- Swype keyboard availability
- Google Maps GPS
But the iPhone has:
- Better Applications, especially games
- Better hardware design (aesthetically) than any Android phone
- Less platform fragmentation and more regular updates
If Apple licensed Swype, and created something other than their pop-up notifications, I would seriously consider switching. No questions. Both are great products and should be recognized as such. Windows Phone 7 is also very nice for those who only need to do what it can do.
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the first two your points for the iphone are subjective. for your third one, Forced updates are not necessarily a good thing.
Here are my subjective counter arguments.
Hardwarewise the iphone is lacking, (Sd card? USB port?) and is easily broken (not to mention antenna fail)
Software wise the iphone is lacking (neutered bluetooth, boring interface) The apps and games are not all that different to android, both markets are being constantly updated.

Apple have to release updates very often , Because its the only one phone apple got , So, they can easily do it but other OEM Cant do for all models

hungry81 said:
the first two your points for the iphone are subjective. for your third one, Forced updates are not necessarily a good thing.
Here are my subjective counter arguments.
Hardwarewise the iphone is lacking, (Sd card? USB port?) and is easily broken (not to mention antenna fail)
Software wise the iphone is lacking (neutered bluetooth, boring interface) The apps and games are not all that different to android, both markets are being constantly updated.
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Sure, I'm being a big subjective, but so are you with "boring interface." The iPhone 4 is glass and metal. Premium materials all around in a way nothing compares to. Neutered Bluetooth? I quit caring about Bluetooth the day I got a smartphone. Bluetooth (when not crippled) is great on dumbphones, but seems to me to have little purpose on a smartphone. As for the "antenna fail" - it's mostly myth. People I know with iPhone 4's are getting great reception. You basically just have to avoid touching it on the antenna breaks - which are easy to see and clear to avoid, and they're not in places where MOST people would touch it in the normal use of the phone. The only way you'd really naturally touch them is if you're gripping the phone with your whole hand.
I'm not saying it's perfect, I love the flexibility of Android. I'm just saying - there's some things that Samsung, Motorola, HTC, etc could learn from Apple on.

Hardwarewise the iphone is lacking, (Sd card? USB port?) and is easily broken (not to mention antenna fail)
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8 gb internal memory, has a link cable. AT&T had the antenna issue, issue fixed with Verizon version. AT&T network also part to blame on that too. The SD card and USB port are more like features, not actually needed.
Software wise the iphone is lacking (neutered bluetooth, boring interface) The apps and games are not all that different to android, both markets are being constantly updated.
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Bluetooth works just fine for communication, and the interface is to each their own. I like it a lot. The apps and games I've seen and used on Ios are a lot more polished than those on Android. For a good reason though, Apple has control over the apps. Android has an open market. Plus, in my opinion the games on ios are way better. I only thing I like in games that android has that doesn't need root, are emulators.
I like both platforms, I wish frash would be more developed for ios. I might be getting on Verizon and getting one, if not probably gonna get the Thunderbolt if the LTE is only $30 and not $50.

u cant justify a phone that has one button cuz its "simple to use" and then start going around bragging how superior it is technically , its simply a dumbed down toy phone , an overpriced piece of style made for blond women
and if thats what works for you , well that says something about ya

souljaboy said:
u cant justify a phone that has one button cuz its "simple to use" and then start going around bragging how superior it is technically , its simply a dumbed down toy phone , an overpriced piece of style made for blond women
and if thats what works for you , well that says something about ya
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That comment makes no sense whatsoever. An iphone is not simple because it only has one button. It's built that way because that's what the software needs.
even if it's the other way around (software optimized for hardware) the iphone is not a "toy phone". It's as fast and powerful as most android devices.
Apple's guidelines are a different story and it hampers the phone, but as a device, it can go head to head with any current android phone.
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wearmaize said:
That comment makes no sense whatsoever. An iphone is not simple because it only has one button. It's built that way because that's what the software needs.
even if it's the other way around (software optimized for hardware) the iphone is not a "toy phone". It's as fast and powerful as most android devices.
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in short , i believe u meant to say : the revolutionary software is built around one magical button

Guys, seriously, what's the point in arguing this stuff. It just screams of jealousy. The iPhone 4 is great hardware. It's very similar inside to a Samsung Galaxy S. The screen is smaller, but higher resolution - different for different needs. The design is very elegant and classy.
The software? Eh, it's fast and looks good at first. I hate the popup in-your-face notifications though, and it's rather repetitive.
The App Store? This is where I really start to hate the iPhone - the "you can't do that because we say so" attitude. This would be fine if sideloading apps was allowed, but it's not. And THAT is my big issue with the iPhone.
But arguing that the hardware isn't very high end is silly. And the one button isn't even to make it simpler, it's not - having physical buttons is easier. It's to make it more minimalist and look nicer. The same reason by the time Apple finally started including multi-button mice with Macs, they did so once the technology was in place to make it look and feel like a one-button mouse. Sure, the one-button mouse was slow and hard to use. But it looked good. The new Apple mice are amazing though - one physical button, but a touch surface that recognizes where you're pushing on the mouse. Likewise with the new Apple trackpads - one GIANT touch surface with no discernable button, but it works great! The old true one-button Apple mice though were a crime against humanity - and there's a reason almost nobody professional actually used the mouse that came with their Mac in those days.

ksizzle9 said:
I ordered the iPhone from Verizon for my wife
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Why? What did she do wrong?

DirkGently1 said:
I'm surprised you don't hear it said more often but i've always seen the iphone as more of a ladies device, whereas Android is more for the gents.
Is that just me?
Men are generally more practical and we enjoy our tools, (ahem), ladies like to accessorise.
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Yes. It definitely is just you. I'm sorry but that's just unfair of you to say that. I most definitely AM A LADY and, I wouldn't be caught dead with an iPOS. Please don't generalize like that again. Oh and as for your little comment about accessories. I CUSTOMIZE my N1 to my hearts content. I am deeply offended by your comments.
I'm not sure where I sent this from.... or how I did it

souljaboy said:
in short , i believe u meant to say : the revolutionary software is built around one magical button
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It's a button that does the same as the home button on any android device. So android can search or go back using physical buttons, there's no inherent difference that those options are built into iphone UI.
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I completely agree; we like to spend more time tinkering with the phone, customizing it to our liking.
I do see a lot more women with iPhones, and the women that i do see with android phones (galaxy s or whatever), use all stock applications and launchers and maybe have Angry Birds on there or something.

Screens too small. I'll have me a nice big android phone any day.
I am currently using a 7 inch gsm/3g tablet as my phone and I love it. fits into my pockets too. zte v9.
Nice hardware. Too small. Like the macbook air.

Apple iproducts going all android loool

Hey, just read the new features in ios5...they really are behind the times innit :-0.
Apparently coming in Autumn to most newer idevices is a pull down notification menu, ota updates, ota syncing, camera shortcut on lockscreen, top volume rocker can be used to snap pics, iphones own version of bbm just for iPhone devices.
I read it and thought wow, they really playing catch up with android, I used to have an iPhone but got bored really quick with their locked down rules and such.
I love my android phone and will be sticking with android for a good while yet but each to their own as is said.
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i read that to and started laughing..... iOS5 = fail

I know but yet the sheep will all say how magical and revolutionary it all is with those updates.
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It just made iOS a worth contender to Android IMO.
iMessage was the only thing that i would deem "magical".
Completely slaughters BBM.

What's perhaps the most frustrating is that Apple is suing Android phone producers left and right, down to the packaging being to similar on phones like the Nexus S.
Yet here, they even copied the 3 little bars! It's a flat out copy of what Android has been doing for years.. they mixed in some WebOS with the swipe to clear, but who knows they could of gotten that feature from CyanogenMod.
Notifications on the lock screen? TouchWiz and Sense 3.0 anybody? It's even more ironic because of the lawsuit with Samsung over "copying".
I mean... come on.

I honestly don't understand why iphones are so hyped up, I'm not the only person to say that they boring, but if u look at the sales sheets u will see that they still flying off the shelves, I know its Apple
But surely just a name can't make that many people go out and buy one?? Like I said I used to have an iPhone, and that probably happened cos I didn't know much about phones, but once I switched over to android and found out all the great stuff u can do with ur phone... It just makes sense to have an android device innit??
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What's perhaps the most frustrating is that Apple is suing Android phone producers left and right, down to the packaging being to similar on phones like the Nexus S.
Yet here, they even copied the 3 little bars! It's a flat out copy of what Android has been doing for years.. they mixed in some WebOS with the swipe to clear, but who knows they could of gotten that feature from CyanogenMod.
Notifications on the lock screen? TouchWiz and Sense 3.0 anybody? It's even more ironic because of the lawsuit with Samsung over "copying".
I mean... come on.
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Ahh, the irony. I believe Google could probably sue Apple for the notification bar.
dazza_84 said:
I honestly don't understand why iphones are so hyped up, I'm not the only person to say that they boring, but if u look at the sales sheets u will see that they still flying off the shelves, I know its Apple
But surely just a name can't make that many people go out and buy one?? Like I said I used to have an iPhone, and that probably happened cos I didn't know much about phones, but once I switched over to android and found out all the great stuff u can do with ur phone... It just makes sense to have an android device innit??
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Had a pal switched form a Desire to a iPhone 4, don't know why he did it.
(before I got myself the Captivate)
1. Brand name, idk (stylish, herd mentality, Job's distortion field)
2. Some want things to just work. They don't bother to tinker and what not.
That's about it IMO.

I see nothing in the iOS update that even a horse talking out its ass could call revolutionary. The Notifications are from Android, without the necessary clear all button, the camera button on a lock screen is still one more button away from a camera then winphone 7, my calander, gmail, and contacts are already all synced OTA to my thunderbolt, G-Tablet, Netbook, and desktop, and the "magical" messaging service will be just like facetime. Nobody I know has ever facetimed in this whole year. Dropbox is also fine for my documents, and no new hardware at all, so I get happier and happier with my thunderbolt with every day.

TheDub said:
What's perhaps the most frustrating is that Apple is suing Android phone producers left and right, down to the packaging being to similar on phones like the Nexus S.
Yet here, they even copied the 3 little bars! It's a flat out copy of what Android has been doing for years.. they mixed in some WebOS with the swipe to clear, but who knows they could of gotten that feature from CyanogenMod.
Notifications on the lock screen? TouchWiz and Sense 3.0 anybody? It's even more ironic because of the lawsuit with Samsung over "copying".
I mean... come on.
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I was thinking the same things as well. They blatantly copied Android notifications yet they are quick to sue others over icons.
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I've got an iPhone 4 and the reason I switched from Android to iOS was basically because iOS does everything I need it to do and it does it very smooth. The apps look ten times better on iOS IMO too. I'm still a huge Android fan but iOS just works the way I want my phone to work. Nice and simple.
The only thing I'm looking forward to is the iMessage or whatever. Everything else has no real effect on me. I do think the reminder thing is pretty cool though but I'll never use that.
No doubt iFanboys will argue that the notifications are better on iOS now when clearly Android is miles ahead. Seems like Apple are just following behind now. Sure most of the apple fanboys don't even care about that, after-all, it's Apple right?
One thing I was dissapointed in was no change to multi-tasking. Oh well, there's always jailbreaking.

Reading these updates strangley annoyed me... Hmmm
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MacaronyMax said:
Reading these updates strangley annoyed me... Hmmm
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+9999999999000!
-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-

Remember though "If you don't have an iPhone 4, you don't have an iPhone 4" which gives you an idea of what their target market is...

Lmao xD
xaccers said:
Remember though "If you don't have an iPhone 4, you don't have an iPhone 4" which gives you an idea of what their target market is...
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Also... What next?! How about Wallpapers, which get this..... Move!!!
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Except they will call them animated wallpapers instead of live wallpapers.
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still no flash support=epic fail

All I gotta say is lame
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Definatly underwhelming. Not a single thing announced for iOS today that I can't currently do with my thunderbolt, dropbox, and google services.

just bought an iphone 4s! (compare to my droid)

So i went out and bought an iphone 4s...
here is a quick comparison between this phone and my android galaxy s2
first of all, camera on the ip4s is lightyears beyond the sgs2... samsungs are simply cheap in my opinion. but thats just me.
phone has way more apps than android, and better quality too. that was a nice upgrade
The touch screen (although incredibly small) is way more responsive, and has way better color, and a lot sharper. This was noticeable. The difference was night and day. All android phones seems to has this problem though.. not good color. :/
And siri is amazing. I can’t believe how smart this application is…. Cutting edge. I wish my sgs2 had something similar built in.
The speaker quality on the ear piece and the loud speaker were also superior quality.
The radios also are better than any android phone I have ever used. No LOS!
My final verdict is android needs to step up their game. Sure the new ICS phone is coming out, but it will still lag! It irritates me that I have been missing out for so long on all the freedom and variety of apps available with iOS!!
anybody else have a similar experience? 
don’t turn this into a flame thread either.

Cool story
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K Rich said:
Cool story
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if you aren't going to be serious then don't reply

If you are looking for a similar experience how about you check out 1 of the other 50 threads on the topic. You obviously don't know much with your title (compare to my droid). Droid is a branding used by verizon. Android is an operating system. Great story though.

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if you aren't going to be serious then don't reply
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What's the "experience"? That one phone is better than another for you?
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Did he just use the words freedom and iphone in the same sentence? lolol
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Lol + 1 made me laugh
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If you don't want to make this into a flame thread that is next to impossible. Firstly almost the entire populace here hates the iPhone, or just apple. Secondly, whilst i will belive some of your points and they are valid, the others are downright trollish. e.g. "Sure the new ICS phone is coming out, but it will still lag!", have you ever used a galaxy nexus? Have you ever used ICS? If not, then why the heck do you have such an idea of which you have no basis of experience from?
I doubt it will lag seeing as i own a sgs 2 and this thing can't lagg on me. So why should a galaxy nexus with "better" firmware and practically equivalent hardware lagg?
Point being, all i see this thread as is a way to start a flame war.

hottubtimemachine said:
anybody else have a similar experience? 
don’t turn this into a flame thread either.
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Why would we? It looks like you're already trying so hard!
Lots of your points just don't make any sense. Especially things like saying the colours look better on an iPhone than on Super AMOLED Plus. Isn't that the main selling feature of the Amoled displays?
Anways, glad you're happy with your purchase. Not too glad that you cannot compare phones at all. But hey, you win some you lose some.

Agreed. I too have an SGS II and to say it's laggy is silly. The SGS II is the fastest phone to date. It was rated #1 device on Consumer Reports and Editor's Choice on a well known web site. This guy's post made me laugh so hard I spilled my coffee. Seeing the words freedom and IOS in the same sentence is histerical.
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I got confused at the part where he said it had more freedom than Android ? Lmao ,
Max. (From my Galaxy 2)

Gotta love the noobs.
Have YOU hugged a noob today? <3
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National hug a noob day! Lmao xD
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Gotta love the noobs.
Have YOU hugged a noob today? <3
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Max. (From my Galaxy 2)

well thats just my experience.
the music player on the iphone seemed to be a little better too. but again, just my observation. people get so defensive it's kinda funny seriously, haha.
does anybody know any good roms for the ip4s?
EDIT*** trollololol
i'm kidding you guys... i hate iphones. just wanted to mix up the pot a little. i have an evo, and will never own an iOS product. lawl
i think the troll post was a little too obvious... it was the part about the display color wasn't it? llooool
screw apple.

hottubtimemachine said:
well thats just my experience.
the music player on the iphone seemed to be a little better too. but again, just my observation. people get so defensive it's kinda funny seriously, haha.
does anybody know any good roms for the ip4s?
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FML!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hottubtimemachine said:
i think the troll post was a little too obvious... it was the part about the display color wasn't it?
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No mate. It was this bit...
hottubtimemachine said:
So i went out and bought an iphone 4s...
here is a quick comparison between this phone and my android galaxy s2
first of all, camera on the ip4s is lightyears beyond the sgs2... samsungs are simply cheap in my opinion. but thats just me.
phone has way more apps than android, and better quality too. that was a nice upgrade
The touch screen (although incredibly small) is way more responsive, and has way better color, and a lot sharper. This was noticeable. The difference was night and day. All android phones seems to has this problem though.. not good color. :/
And siri is amazing. I can’t believe how smart this application is…. Cutting edge. I wish my sgs2 had something similar built in.
The speaker quality on the ear piece and the loud speaker were also superior quality.
The radios also are better than any android phone I have ever used. No LOS!
My final verdict is android needs to step up their game. Sure the new ICS phone is coming out, but it will still lag! It irritates me that I have been missing out for so long on all the freedom and variety of apps available with iOS!!
anybody else have a similar experience? 
don’t turn this into a flame thread either.
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Lmao
No hug for you then
Max. (From my Galaxy 2)

What a fail at trolling lol
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Cool story bro, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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I was just having a little look on an iForum

Not trolling or otherwise causing trouble, I'm not even regged on it.
It appears that quite a lot of iPeople were wishing that they had a gesture typing keyboard.
But the apple ecosystem, with its far superior apps has the answer!
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/swype-input-method-swipe-to/id529025189?mt=8
Look at the reviews for it lol,
Sample review:
Fail
*****
by timothymh
Do not buy. Or, as this app would say, "di nut but."
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Quality apps man, think I might switch to Apple now.
You actually need to type into an app like notepad on a Windows PC, then copy and paste your gesture typed text into where you wanted it.
I wonder why there isn't a decent swype keyboard on iOS? I suppose apple themselves are maybe too scared to implement it into their OS because they won't want people to think they are copying android. Mind you - notifications anyone....
Wonder why there isn't a 3rd party one though...?
Edit: just noticed the thread was from Nov lol, but there's a new one. Watch the video and get a laugh...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZArlrNFys5g&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Who cares really. This has nothing to do with android and or the nexus 7.
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jetbruceli said:
Who cares really. This has nothing to do with android and or the nexus 7.
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Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't post when I've been drinking vodka lol
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knuckles1978 said:
Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't post when I've been drinking vodka lol
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Firstly: I love vodka.
Second: This makes me love my gs3 and nexus7/hate crapple even more!
(My keyboard auto-corrected "crapple" with cripple. It's like it knows..)
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Apple is for non techy types that just wanna go buy their phone and use it. Done. Stable, simple.....and boring.
But to each their own.
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kj2112 said:
Apple is for non techy types that just wanna go buy their phone and use it. Done. Stable, simple.....and boring.
But to each their own.
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Correction. Flip phones are for the non techy. Apple is for people who think their techy.
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iOS doesn't allow 3rd party keyboards. Also, they will only allow web browsers that use a certain type of rendering, or something like that... Apple is running themselves into a ditch by locking our new ideas like that.
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BlackFire27 said:
Correction. Flip phones are for the non techy. Apple is for people who think their techy.
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Lol
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Apple will probably incorporate a gesture keyboard into a future iOS revision, call it "the best gesture keyboard invented ever" and then sue Google/Samsung/Swype for violating Apple patents.

phishfi said:
iOS doesn't allow 3rd party keyboards. Also, they will only allow web browsers that use a certain type of rendering, or something like that... Apple is running themselves into a ditch by locking our new ideas like that.
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Good, and Good riddance to them aswell !
They haven't had anything innovative since, well pretty much the first iPad/iPhone series.
And the phone itself hasn't changed at all since the 4.
SDA_Lord said:
Apple will probably incorporate a gesture keyboard into a future iOS revision, call it "the best gesture keyboard invented ever" and then sue Google/Samsung/Swype for violating Apple patents.
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And this is exactly what they will do. EXACTLY.

Wilks3y said:
Good, and Good riddance to them aswell !
They haven't had anything innovative since, well pretty much the first iPad/iPhone series.
And the phone itself hasn't changed at all since the 4.
And this is exactly what they will do. EXACTLY.
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Apple has always been the same. Their computers were the same...a couple variants...minor changes from year to year. And no one else can use their os. Well...hardly anyone uses their PC's as a result. They managed to make one good phone...and year after year make very slight changes. Ipad now too.
But thanks to the phones and ipads they make money. Cause the tech unsavvy go with the flow.
But they gotta be the least innovative company on earth. Slowly people are seeing this and slowly apple will die off...unless they make serious changes to their ideals.
Rim is becoming, or became, similar.
Android as things are today will take over the mobile world in time.
Again.....unless apple and even rim change their tunes.
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................Apple suck
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Completely agree, with your two word post People say 'apple just works'.
The fact is, now android can be simple, and 'just works' if thats what you want it to do, but the possibilities are there to do whatever the hell you like to your device, as they should be when you've just paid a large amount of money for it.
You can leave it standard and simple (does anyone?), or mod it to within an inch of its life. I do understand though that there is a market for technically unsavvy fashionistas who think that the latest iDevice elevates them somehow into a superior being. Sad really. My experience. My opinion. Based on people I know personally. Not all of the iPhone owners I know, some are just ignorant lol
All locked down is just boring, jailbreaking your iPhone makes it run slower lol, and you still can't do whatever you like with it.
Android is, and has always been the way forward to me. Nothing to do with blind brand loyalty. I didn't mean to make this an Apple hate thread or anything.
Do not even get me started on the way that apple go about conducting their 'business'. It should be criminal.
I once owned an iPod for about a month. Then I was enraged with iTunes. I then bought an iRiver HP120. Man, let me tell you that the sheer sound quality of that thing with good 'phones made hairs stand up on the back of my neck every time I used it. Drag and drop heaven too.
I never bought an Apple device again, and unless they change their ways something silly, never would again. But even then, the way in which they conduct business has put me off for life.
Don't tell me that's fanboyism.

What's with the iphone 6 ???

Compared to say the S5, or Note 4 ?
I was shocked last weekend when my friends and I had some bbq afternoon... All 10 of them had a shiny iphone 6 !
Mind you these people don't know sh ite about rooting and stuff like that, they just take pictures and post them on instagram and sh itbook, even my cousin and her husband... am I the only one who loves Android and Samsung? or they have not seen the light yet????

Lol. I just look at the sheeple and laugh.
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Mind you, these are the same people that will take their laptop to an "expert" when they have a virus.

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[/COLOR]Mind you, these are the same people that will take their laptop to an "expert" when they have a virus.
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exactly right, they abuse me when they get a virus on their laptop...

iPhones are just popular because they are easy to use and are updated often and quickly. It's a painless process to upload your music, movies and photos. iOS has a huge app library with very nice quality apps. The phones look great and perform well. Using one iPhone means you pretty much know how to use any iPhone. This is unlike Android where music management is a nightmare. The Play store is flooded with low quality apps and poor support. Using one Android phone means you know nothing about all the other Android phones. In short, to the non tech geek iPhones are the go-to. They are popular because they are easy to use. It also helps that Apples products are usually a status symbol.
The downside to not having Android is your limited in customization of ROMs or kernels. That doesn't mean you can't customize iOS. You just can't go as far as you can with Android.
Android Phones gives you more freedom.
Apple iPhones gives you less headaches.

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iPhones are just popular because they are easy to use and are updated often and quickly. It's a painless process to upload your music, movies and photos. iOS has a huge app library with very nice quality apps. The phones look great and perform well. Using one iPhone means you pretty much know how to use any iPhone. This is unlike Android where music management is a nightmare. The Play store is flooded with low quality apps and poor support. Using one Android phone means you know nothing about all the other Android phones. In short, to the non tech geek iPhones are the go-to. They are popular because they are easy to use. It also helps that Apples products are usually a status symbol.
The downside to not having Android is your limited in customization of ROMs or kernels. That doesn't mean you can't customize iOS. You just can't go as far as you can with Android.
Android Phones gives you more freedom.
Apple iPhones gives you less headaches.
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Could not have said that better IPhone is perfect when you just want the phone that works without much hassle. Android is perfect when you love tweaking and playing with your phone and not actually use it that much Because with a android you are never satisfied, there is always something more to tweak, change rom and other stuff so for me it always ends with just messing with it. To much time tweaking and flashing to find the perfect setup

Although the tweaking and flashing is a massive plus with Android for me, an even bigger plus is the ability to download files like mp3s and pdfs etc from the net or a torrent and play them straight away. With IOS you can't. Android is much more like a true mini pc compared to IOS. That's why I could never go back to IOS.

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Although the tweaking and flashing is a massive plus with Android for me, an even bigger plus is the ability to download files like mp3s and pdfs etc from the net or a torrent and play them straight away. With IOS you can't. Android is much more like a true mini pc compared to IOS. That's why I could never go back to IOS.
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Oh yeah, the mp3 download is a big factor for me. My friends ask me where I buy music. I said it's free and I use my phone, and showed a friend once... he just kept quiet. If you reverse the situation, I'm sure they'd be bragging.

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Oh yeah, the mp3 download is a big factor for me. My friends ask me where I buy music. I said it's free and I use my phone, and showed a friend once... he just kept quiet. If you reverse the situation, I'm sure they'd be bragging.
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you dont have to buy anything

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Yep it's called stealing ....
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Ive a app called xender which sends all the mp3 & videos from android to iphone without any hassle otherwise I would have said bye bye iphone.I think iphone should reduce some restrictions,would gather more android users.
What do you guys think?
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RISHI RAJ said:
Ive a app called xender which sends all the mp3 & videos from android to iphone without any hassle otherwise I would have said bye bye iphone.I think iphone should reduce some restrictions,would gather more android users.
What do you guys think?
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Me, NOT at the moment. I am so used to android, just like my PC vs Mac, and my Canon DSLR vs Nikon...
But time will tell, now that Samsung started rolling phones that have irreplaceable battery and no SD card support...

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Yep it's called stealing ....
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Nope i meant it goes same for both os.

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Nope i meant it goes same for both os.
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Given the way the OP phrased his post - I think we were both accurate But yes you are right. There are plenty of people accessing content they haven't paid for on iOS too.

as an ex-iphone user (went from S1 to iphone 4 then iphone 5, back to S3 and every samsung since then) i have a similar view on them.
iPhones are simple to understand - not simple to use. there is always one way to do something, and thats it.
For many people thats preferable to feeling like an idiot when there is 10 ways to do something. go to android and watch a movie "oh it didnt work" - you tell them to try BS player or MX player and they just throw their hands in the air, because the built in video player is holy and sacred.
The reason for the simplicity is simple: On apple, every last thing is designed to come from itunes, and be played by the apple stock apps. there is one source to get the content, one app to play them, and the only thing that seperates the users is how much money you have to throw at the apple ecosystem - once someone has spent a few hundred bucks on iTunes content they'll never leave, because they add that value to offset the cost of a new phone. $900 iphone? pfft,i have $2K in iTunes, it might as well be free!"
on android, you can buy them from a dozen sources, pirate them, copy them from your PC - and you have infinite playback options. its simply too complex for people who bought the phone without knowing *WHY* they bought that phone, since they dont use most of its capabilities anyway. These are the common iSheep, the people who bought it because it's cool and looks fancy, but use it like a nokia.
Everyone i've converted from apple to samsung has followed the same path as well "why? this does the same things as my iphone, but the iphone is prettier and has itunes" - they do a direct comparison without even considering what the phone can do BEYOND the iphones capabilities. Showing them the S-pen, or directly playing files off my NAS/PC over wifi, or MHL/HDMI, or the note 4's super fast charging blows them away.
the iphone is the baseline, and they're so used to having just ONE choice that when presented with two or three or 10, they simply treat all the options as the same.
"i hate android" means "i used one android phone once, and they're all the same right?" - this also goes for themes, keyboards, stock apps and so on.

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they're so used to having just ONE choice that when presented with two or three or 10, they simply treat all the options as the same. "i hate android" means "i used one android phone once, and they're all the same right?"
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Pretty much. I was really over whelmed when I came back to Android. I was used to things just working out of the box. Now I have to rebuild my music collection from Google Play as that is eaiser then attempting to transfer from iTunes. Took a few days before I got the hang of flashing and building from source. Things have changed as if you keep in mind my iPhone is now just a really expensive GameBoy Advance and remote. My Note 4 is my daily driver.

So, on iPhone there is no proper PGP support, no NFC APIs (so no support for secure tokens such as Yubikey, or even NFC tags), no low level network APIs (so you can't implement your own protocol, such as OpenVPN).... (I could go on and on)
It seems like a no-go to me, it is pretty much locked down as well, even though you actually purchased the device you can't do anything on it that's not endorsed by Apple, that's why I strayed away from the iPhone in the first place (I used to own an iPhone 3GS, that's until I swiched to android and never came back).
As someone that works in IT, and need to handle sensitive data, iOS is just not the system for me.

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As someone that works in IT, and need to handle sensitive data, iOS is just not the system for me.
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But that's the thing of course. If you work in IT, you most probably want an android. However if you don't know sh*t about IT, which 98% of the people don't, an iphone really might be the better option. You dont have to worry about battery drains, wakelocks, background apps running, viruses, etc. It just does what it's supposed to do when a monkey operates it.
But if you're in IT, you most likely want to do some more stuff, go more in depth and then Android is clearly the OS of choice.

I like iphone coz everybody knows when u have an iphone.But you have to tell that you have a Note 4 coz there are hell lot of samsung mobile with similar looks.Also there is atleast 1 year surity that apple will not release another phone with similar looks.Also with some restrictions removed like access to files or install from external source could make apple on top.But guess this is how ios will be.Although I can now play movies & songs from external source by an app called xender atleast making it usable
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For me is simple, if I use iPhone I will become dump, if I use android I will be generous because android is for geek not for dump. Yes lol most of the people use apple iPhone but they are totally useless in technology. There are a lot of iPhone user who even don't know simple problems in smart phone world. My company have a lot of previous ios user try to use android and return back to iPhone because very simple problem in android (simple problem for android user) is bothering them, that android user can solve the problem in just few second. I have a lot of friends using iPhone and always come to me with some simple problem I just laugh and says only one word..... useless guys. They always says iPhone is very smart.. ha ha.. i always says ..yes you are dump and go study first.
I am not insulting them, I just want them to not blind and open eye, Technology is changing, iPhone is good but not perfect, android is good but not for normal user same as window phone.

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For me is simple, if I use iPhone I will become dump, if I use android I will be generous because android is for geek not for dump. Yes lol most of the people use apple iPhone but they are totally useless in technology. There are a lot of iPhone user who even don't know simple problem problem in smart phone world. My company have a lot of previous ios user try to use android and return back to iPhone because very simple problem in android (simple problem for android user) is bothering them, that android user can solve the problem in just few second. I have a lot of friends using iPhone and always come to me with some simple problem I just laugh and says only one word..... useless guys. They always says iPhone is very smart.. ha ha.. i always says ..yes you are dump and go study first.
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I do not intend to be rude, but in english the word dump means something different to the way you are using it. Perhaps you meant the word dumb?