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hi..
I'm using X7500 as a navigation very often.
I have a normal charger - no brand name, cheap one -
connected to the car, operate gps with iGo...
Not charge at all..
I feel the battery getting down faster than do'nt charge..
How about you?
What kind of charger do you use?
If I buy a HTC's one, is it ok for me???
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Connected to the car, not using at all... Charge OK...
But listening to music, using gps... No Charge...
Please, help me...
Daniel_Kwon said:
hi..
I'm using X7500 as a navigation very often.
I have a normal charger - no brand name, cheap one -
connected to the car, operate gps with iGo...
Not charge at all..
I feel the battery getting down faster than do'nt charge..
How about you?
What kind of charger do you use?
If I buy a HTC's one, is it ok for me???
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Connected to the car, not using at all... Charge OK...
But listening to music, using gps... No Charge...
Please, help me...
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Mine comes with the standard package, and is a 2 Amp charger. It charges up very quickly and turn the light around the joystick green very quickly.
When you say it wont charge, are you not getting the orange ring? I know many here have found most aftermarket car chargers dont charge fast enough to keep up when the gps is on.
the orange light is on..
orange light is on.. but, no charge..at all..
what is the original package?
i have checked the battery status using gps..
it's getting lower.. 80% -> 70% ->... 10% with orange light..
^^;
Mine is Dopod U1000, bought from Singapore. The car charger is an item included in the price.
It should show the battery level going up even when using GPS.
If the charger gives you less that 2 amps forget about it. That simple.
I got the one sold by HTC thru Expansys and has 2 amp. Works perfect. Before getting that I tried to use my old charger with was 1 amp. No way.
What exactly is the scoop on this? Is it that they overpower the charging circuit (everyone says they charge the phones faster)? Is there a way to tell you're about to do damage?
I don't use the car charger that came with my Kaiser, I have several generic chargers which all work just fine. However I noticed that when running GPS, although the charge light was on, the battery wouldn't really charge. It wouldn't discharge either, I put it up to the extra drain on the phone's power system.
The other day though, my phone... stopped charging? I was driving (GPS) and the phone suddenly beeped a critical battery warning, the charge light was off... but the power was plugged in and the charger's power light in the cigarette socket was on. It WAS making a connection to the phone: if I unplugged it the screen would go dimmer, if I plugged it back in it would get brighter. But it still seemed to be running off the battery, which was draining regardless. The moment I got to my destination, it all powered off. Is this a forewarning of darker circumstances to come?
from what I've read you should not be using generic chargers. The amperage could differ. Therefore, if the electricity in your vehicle spikes you could be riding with a paper weight.
In addition, it is common that your device will not charge (nor discharge) while running your gps application. I play monopoly often while my phone is in the charger and my device usually doesn't charge while I am playing.
Also, I think the pinout on generic USB chargers are different. The ones that are for Moto Razr / Blackberry phones dont work to charge the phones ( as I have a work blackberry and tried it) It didnt hurt my phone, however it just didnt charge. I have heard of others damaging but if its not made for the kaiser, I wouldn't try it.
I've never had access to Moto Razr / Blackberry chargers. While I can't speak for those, I know generic USB chargers would have exactly the same pinout as the stock Kaiser charger. The amperage supplied may indeed differ, I think that might have explained my issue above. It was almost like the charge circuit 'gave up' since the phone was demanding as much/more power as it was getting.
CrArc said:
I've never had access to Moto Razr / Blackberry chargers. While I can't speak for those, I know generic USB chargers would have exactly the same pinout as the stock Kaiser charger. The amperage supplied may indeed differ, I think that might have explained my issue above. It was almost like the charge circuit 'gave up' since the phone was demanding as much/more power as it was getting.
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My razr charger works perfect with my tilt.. (MOTOROLLA branded - not generic)
Ditto on the motorola razr charger;Have an old razr charger I use it for travelling instead of unplugging my original;works fine!!
+2 on the Motorola branded car charger...charges my Tilt just fine. Now I'm paranoid, though...
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What exactly is the scoop on this? Is it that they overpower the charging circuit (everyone says they charge the phones faster)? Is there a way to tell you're about to do damage?
I don't use the car charger that came with my Kaiser, I have several generic chargers which all work just fine. However I noticed that when running GPS, although the charge light was on, the battery wouldn't really charge. It wouldn't discharge either, I put it up to the extra drain on the phone's power system.
The other day though, my phone... stopped charging? I was driving (GPS) and the phone suddenly beeped a critical battery warning, the charge light was off... but the power was plugged in and the charger's power light in the cigarette socket was on. It WAS making a connection to the phone: if I unplugged it the screen would go dimmer, if I plugged it back in it would get brighter. But it still seemed to be running off the battery, which was draining regardless. The moment I got to my destination, it all powered off. Is this a forewarning of darker circumstances to come?
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That is the exact same thing I am experiencing with my Tilt.
Tilt is charging from a generic car-to-USB and USB cable.
I start TomTom.
Charging works fine for a while.
Then suddenly the charging stops and the battery is drained.
I found only two ways to get it to charge again:
1. Turn off device with TomTom charging; hold Tilt against cool air flowing from AC; plug into charger (while still off) ... then the phone turns on and charges.
2. Take out the battery; put it back in ... start phone.
It does seem that either the phone can draw power faster than a USB charger can supply it or the use of wifi and gps whilst charging overheats it. I particularly see this behavior when I'm running tomtom and navizon. The phone seems to remain charging longer in cooler weather or if I point an air vent at it. My current no wifi woes started after an occurrence of just this behaviour the other day.
RAZR chargers don't have enough current and it doesn't keep a positive charge when using the GPS. It says it's charging but ultimately it goes down. Sometimes it stops charging and I had to unplug it and plug it back in. Use a charger made for the Kaiser. The charger from my brother's bluetooth GPS works fine though.
I have a generic USB cigar lighter adapter which I have been using to power mine with no problem. The only way I can see a charger frying a phone is if there is a voltage spike that isn't regulated.
The charger needs to be rated with an output of 5v 2amps which is what the electric charger is rated at. Bought one off ebay for $6. Most car chargers are rated quite a bit lower (400ma).
As the previous post states, some chargers are rated at under 500ma. This is not enough to change the Kaiser... I find that the Blackberry charger works fine, but sometimes takes a very long time to charge as the current isn't quite enough. I have a generic one at about 1000ma and that works fine.
USB from a PC is normally 500ma sustained.
I think there's another thread or 2 about this somewhere. I've been having the same problem with the Kaiser not charging via generic and razr car chargers.
After seeing the other thread I bought an HTC charger from ebay - at least it looks like one and is advertised as one! The sticker on the 'real' HTC charger only says 0.5 amp (same as the others are rated), but charges no problem with TomTom going.
I tried measuring the current using different chargers and PowerGuard and I think there is a definite difference (although not an easy thing to interpret). I notice the cable is significantly heavier on the real HTC charger (also coiled and tends to drag the phone from where I mount it a little). Others have said the pinouts are different too.
I looked for a 2amp charger but couldn't find one (if anyone knows a source?).
It's an intriguing problem but a 'real' HTC charger seems to fix it.
The other thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406771
There were a range of brodit car mounts with built-in chargers that bricked the kaiser. I bought one and it instantly blew it's fuse. I replace the fuse and it blew my kaiser up instead.
Assuming it was the kaiser I had it replaced, only for the charger to blow it up again.
Since then I contacted dsldevelopments (UK Distributor) who replaced it with an updated model. I have not had any issues after that.
I had this problem (Kaiser not charging in the car when GPS is on) and resolved it totally by getting the offical HTC car charger. Although output is 0.5A it is rated to 2A - my previous generic car charger was only rated to one amp and that would work fine as long I wasn't using GPS but once I ran GPS it just couldn't cope. Definately resolved this problem with the official HTC car charger (got mine of flea bay for £8)
cheers
Barney
I've had no problem with designed-for-Moto chargers and ones specifically designed to charge over USB from a dumb charger.
The problem is that drawing more than 100 mA without negotiating a connection with a PC violates the USB specification. Many manufacturers have gotten around this by finding other ways to signal the presence of a "dumb" charger, telling the phone it can draw more than 100 mA.
In the case of Mini-USB devices like the Motos, Blackberries, and HTC devices, the Mini-USB connector has a fifth pin that is normally not connected. If the charger plug grounds this pin, it signals to the device that it is permitted to draw more than 100 mA without a PC connection.
If you get a charger that does not ground this pin, an HTC device will not charge rapidly, if at all. (Typically only charges slowly when screen is off). This is why you get two cables when you order a single MiniSync from BoxWave, for example. They give you one "Sync and charge from PC" cable (no pin grounded) and one "Charge only" cable (pin grounded for dumb chargers). (If the pin is grounded it interferes with data communications for most devices.)
I use a motorola charger, which is fine if you do not use GPS.
when I use the GPS after some time the battery is very hot and stops load, but if I put the cell in front of the AC, just cools again to load.
I think the problem is due to protection from overheating battery
Belkin Charger
I grabbed a Belkin charger for my KRAZR/RAZR phones and it seems to work just fine, even with GPS running. My official Moto one also works fine with the tilt in GPS mode.
I do notice, though, that no matter what I'm using to charge it with, with GPS it gets hot. Since Li-Ion batteries are supposed to stop charging at a certain temp, it's possible that the combination of a lower grade charger and the heat generated by using GPS/WiFi/Cell at the same time (or any combo of the three), might be the issue.
My HD2 has just killed it's second car charger, grr! Has anyone else had this problem with generic micro USB chargers? Or genuine HTC ones?
The power light comes on in the charger but nothing happens on the phone. My car holder charger was in 2 sections, a mini USB cable to the cradle and then a converter to micro USB in the cradle. If you swap the mini USB cable the rest works, but with the broken cable, the cradle power indicator still lights up.
Thanks in advance if anyone's had the same problem or got some advice.
dizzi141 said:
My HD2 has just killed it's second car charger, grr! Has anyone else had this problem with generic micro USB chargers? Or genuine HTC ones?
The power light comes on in the charger but nothing happens on the phone. My car holder charger was in 2 sections, a mini USB cable to the cradle and then a converter to micro USB in the cradle. If you swap the mini USB cable the rest works, but with the broken cable, the cradle power indicator still lights up.
Thanks in advance if anyone's had the same problem or got some advice.
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How hot is the phone?
If it is too hot (usually from a car charger in a hot environment), the Leo will not charge. The HD2 will blink green and orange.
Hello dizzi141,
Same problem here, already one car charger down. I have a red led burning on the car charger but nothing happens on the device ...
Grtz
My charger is working but charger is getting very hot and it charging the phone very slowly like 7-10 min one percent (%1) any way to fix this problem?
It's not a heat thing as far as I can tell, it works one minute and then next time it's dead. The phone doesn't recognise it's plugged into a charger even.
So the led is not blinking at all? (when plugged in to charger)
Shure that its your htc hd2 killing and not the car ? Cheapass chargers suks bigtime
Power consumption
Could it be that your generic charger is rated at 500mA and the HD2 can draw somewhere between 1500 and 2000mA ?
That might blow a fuse (or burn up the voltage regulator if unfused) in the "el-cheapo" car charger..
Personally, I'm using a 1000mA USB adapter from dealextreme.com
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.34040
and a standard USB cable.
Works perfectly for me.
(Sure, I might get the orange/green LED, but that's because of heat. I get that with original charger too, if it's too hot when I charge.)
Just my two cents...
I used to have a lower power generic car charger but it blew after a couple of months of occasional use.
For 'peace of mind' I brought the official HTC one as advised in the accessories section of their website, it's still working fine now after about 3 months of occasional use (just have to wiggle it around a bit to make a good connection in the socket sometimes).
I do have to align the screen mount to an aircon vent on the dash to keep it cool though, it overheats in no time - and that's just uk heat!
I haven't had any problems with heat or charging. I use this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882021129 , you can get them pretty cheap if you watch their email promos.
I'd agree with Bonzo.
I have tested few chargers (Samsung branded including ).
Everything what was not marked as 1A (1000mA) output was useless.
i use the origininale htc`s car chargers.
they work flawless.
CC-C200 for the hd2
i had a CC-C100 before.
I didn't see this in any other posts, so I thought I'd ask.
I have a aftermaket car charger that does not show "slow charging" but when I am using google maps, it will slowly drain the battery, but if I use a power inverter and use the ac adaptor and cable that came with the phone, it charges faster than the screen, gps, and maps can use it up.
does anyone know of a car charger that is up to this challange?
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I didn't see this in any other posts, so I thought I'd ask.
I have a aftermaket car charger that does not show "slow charging" but when I am using google maps, it will slowly drain the battery, but if I use a power inverter and use the ac adaptor and cable that came with the phone, it charges faster than the screen, gps, and maps can use it up.
does anyone know of a car charger that is up to this challange?
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Because most likely it is a 800ma-1amp charger. Get a 2 or more amp charger... very extensive car charger thread here....
My father bought one of these for his G2:
http://www.amazon.com/Vehicle-Charger-Dual-Output-Universal/dp/B00C9D5EJI
I'm not sure where he ordered it from.
I tried it out on my G2 with Waze running, screen on, and GPS running. No slow charge indicator. I left work with the battery at 69%, drove for a little over 20 minutes, and ended up at 81%. That's a nice fast charge with all of that running. I'll try it sometime with bluetooth and pandora on as well, but I imagine it'll keep up.
I purchased one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009KY4AMG/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Make sure you have a micro usb cable that can handle it as well. My old cable had the "slow charging" notification but once I switched it out for the one that came with the phone, it went away.
hope that helps.
I just buy a car charger for iPad and it works perfectly with 2.1A max. Screen on 100% light, battery turn 60% to 80% on 40min.
Hi everyone
I bought myself two Samsung wireless chargers (double pack) and tried them with the original Samsung S6 edge quick charger, with my old Sgs2 charger cable and with a cheap no name charger cable.
With all setups I have the same problem: almost every night at some point the qi charger starts blinking an stops charging. Both of them do. I do not know if it has anything to do with receiving messages or high cpu loads (when syncing/backup apps kick in at night) but this is really annoying.
I am not using any case or anything. Pure S6 edge. Right side up.
Does anybody have any idea? I mean, shouldn't it work properly?
Mine does that too with my Note 5. When I take it off it keeps blinking blue until I disconnect the cable. Seems like those chargers are not that good.
The only way I can Wireless Charge mine is using the Fast Charger that came with it. Using any other charger in the QI charger does not seem to work.
I have the same problem, i'm using the wall charger and cable that came with my phone, same problem at some random point the wireless charger starts blinking and stops charging, i think the problem its in the cable cause i move the cable around a bit and starts charging again, the weird part it's that this does not happens when i charge the phone directly from the cable.
will be sending mine back. really poor product. unusual for samsung
no idea how this made number one qi charger on amazon. completely unreliable
I bought a qi charger from ebay and i had the same problem with you, while was charging was disconnected. Finally i use my s6 edge stock charger and cable i connected it with the chinese charger and all perfect.. I send message to ebay seller with this problem and his gave me back partial refund...
I'm solved that issue with a blackberry cable.
Using standard plug and cable for my qi charger and when I put my s6 edge on have no problems at all strange how some do and some don't get it
tried cheap chinese cable, tried original samsung slow charging cable and tried the original fast charging cable that came with the s6 edge. all showed the same behaviour. i bought the double pack so got two qi chargers and both behaved the same.
maybe it is a software thing?
whatever it is, it renders the wireless charging capability useless
officiallyme said:
tried cheap chinese cable, tried original samsung slow charging cable and tried the original fast charging cable that came with the s6 edge. all showed the same behaviour. i bought the double pack so got two qi chargers and both behaved the same.
maybe it is a software thing?
whatever it is, it renders the wireless charging capability useless
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Try to find another phone to test on your qi chargers.. if the same problems just forget that wireless charging excists.. if not sell it and buy another one..
currently trying the choetech and so far it works flawlessly. i wonder why samsung messed up their chargers so badly
officiallyme said:
Hi everyone
I bought myself two Samsung wireless chargers (double pack) and tried them with the original Samsung S6 edge quick charger, with my old Sgs2 charger cable and with a cheap no name charger cable.
With all setups I have the same problem: almost every night at some point the qi charger starts blinking an stops charging. Both of them do. I do not know if it has anything to do with receiving messages or high cpu loads (when syncing/backup apps kick in at night) but this is really annoying.
I am not using any case or anything. Pure S6 edge. Right side up.
Does anybody have any idea? I mean, shouldn't it work properly?
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Yea mine did that to so I purchased DreamQi Wireless Charging Dual Alarm Clock w/ Bluetooth by VoltNow and just let it charge overnight with no problems. Its not fast charging but my S6 edge charges from 0 to 100 in about 1.5 hours with no charging issues when I have a notification or its fully charged.
wireless charger
I tried the Samsung flat round wireless, didn't work most of the time, exchanged it for the Tylt slanted upright, works flawlessly every time.