Is there currently a simple safe TW rom out there that I can use CWM to flash between it and CM9 nightlies, I really need MHL support occassionally and need would really love to just restore a TW or CM9 nandroid without a bunch of hoops when I need the functionality.
rock_80 said:
Is there currently a simple safe TW rom out there that I can use CWM to flash between it and CM9 nightlies, I really need MHL support occassionally and need would really love to just restore a TW or CM9 nandroid without a bunch of hoops when I need the functionality.
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Every TW Rom is safe if you flash it correctly and make a backup of it. Use abyss 4.2 kernel between flashes and every time you restore your backup. Not when you make the backup.
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Thanks, thats the workflow I'm trying to avoid, so I dont have to worry about forgetting a step and screwing something up
Anyone have an update to this ? Would really like to be able to have a simple no-brainer flash restore between a TW rom and CM10, are there any safe roms to flash between yeat without using abyss in between ?
You can flash any stock gb over cm9 but will have to wipe. You can then flash cm9 back over gb also without the need for an alternative kernel. Is that what you mean?
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rock_80 said:
Anyone have an update to this ? Would really like to be able to have a simple no-brainer flash restore between a TW rom and CM10, are there any safe roms to flash between yeat without using abyss in between ?
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Check this- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30810194
Once on a safe kernel, you can switch roms easily and no need of abyss or GB downgrade.
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Hi all,
I am on LQ3 with Speedmod K3 Kernel and root.
If I want to try out ParanoidAndroid, is it possible to flash a CM9 kernel (like T**r) via CWM, then flash PA (and then wipe both caches and full reset)?
Or, do I still need to flash a GB rom and kernel and then flash PA?
I think the reason for flashing to GB is because CWM is not safe on the stock ICS kernel, but since I'm on Speedmod, that isn't a problem for me.
Or, is there another reason you need to go back to GB?
thanks,
Rich.
Once you go paranoid uts a straight trip to the asylum lmao
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Its all in first post of thread lol
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richlum said:
Hi all,
I am on LQ3 with Speedmod K3 Kernel and root.
If I want to try out ParanoidAndroid, is it possible to flash a CM9 kernel (like T**r) via CWM, then flash PA (and then wipe both caches and full reset)?
Or, do I still need to flash a GB rom and kernel and then flash PA?
I think the reason for flashing to GB is because CWM is not safe on the stock ICS kernel, but since I'm on Speedmod, that isn't a problem for me.
Or, is there another reason you need to go back to GB?
thanks,
Rich.
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The Devs post those instructions for a reason dude.They have tested the methods and only then posted those instructions.If there is a shorter way,they would have surely posted that instead of the longer roundabout way.Also, I think there was a post somewhere mentioning not to go to the CM9 kernel straight from LQ3....but I've forgotten where it was/is .
Best way is to go back to GB and then flash PA---15 minutes extra vs risking bricking your phone----you do the math
how can i flash properly a cm9 or cm10 rom if i'm currently using kingdroid v7.1 and notecore kernel ???
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If you mean notecore kernel.. It is safe to flash roms from there as it has MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled and you can perform all the necessary wipes in order to flash the new rom
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Notecore is safe but not any ics.kernel is safe to flash cm base ROM
Dont understand why op asking someone tried, why someone flash from ics when it can brick device. Just to try brick?
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dr.ketan said:
Notecore is safe but not any ics.kernel is safe to flash cm base kernel.
Dont understand why op asking someone tried, why someone flash from ics when it can brick device. Just to try brick?
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Well if he by "glnote" kernel means stock ics I think this thread should be reported/blocked
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dr.ketan said:
Notecore is safe but not any ics.kernel is safe to flash cm base kernel.
Dont understand why op asking someone tried, why someone flash from ics when it can brick device. Just to try brick?
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i'm sorry cause in a cm10 based thread i asked if it is safe to flash cm10 with notecore kernel and someone said that it's a safe kernel..So what do they mean by that? just finding a way how properly flash cm9 or cm10 if i'm on kdv7.1 ics and my kernel is notecore v13.. sorry for the misunderstanding....
i meant notekernel by gavin..
Notekernel is safe means you can safely wipe, flash CWM, can take nadroid backup/Restore on ICS ROM only.
Here in your case this safety have no concern. Notecore is TW based ICS kernel. You can't flash CM based ROM on any ICS based kernel/ROM.
To flash CM based ROM, get GB ROM/Kernel + CWM and flash CM based ROM using that.
Yes. Flash using pc odin, then root and install cwm, before flashing cm9.
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Notekernel is safe means you can safely wipe, flash CWM, can take nadroid backup/Restore on ICS ROM only.
Here in your case this safety have no concern. Notecore is TW based ICS kernel. You can't flash CM based ROM on any ICS based kernel/ROM.
To flash CM based ROM, get GB ROM/Kernel + CWM and flash CM based ROM using that.
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That is 100% wrong,
you CAN flash CM{9,10} from a safe kernel, be it SpeedMod, franco or NoteCore, exactly the same way you can flash a TW rom from a CM kernel, as long as it's a safe kernel you can do whatever you want.
Now, if you flash NoteCore *after* you flash CM, your device won't boot, however you can always use the recovery to install a CM kernel or just a TW rom.
You do NOT need to flash a whole GB ROM, you can just flash the kernel and boot into it's recovery.
Also, you do NOT need a GB kernel or Abyss to flash anything as long as you have a safe kernel, aka SpeedMod, NoteCore, CM9/10, Thor, etc.
Your statement about flashing a whole GB ROM just to flash CM is misleading and wrong.
I still appreciate all your useful posts.
@PierreTech, it is 100% safe to wipe and install CM from NoteCore.
Steps :
0. Do a nandroid backup or a titanium backup. (optional really)
1. Reboot into recovery.
2. Do a factory reset.
3. Install CM9/10/whatever.
4. If it doesn't include google apps, make sure you have the appropriate zip file and flash it too.
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That is 100% wrong,
you CAN flash CM{9,10} from a safe kernel, be it SpeedMod, franco or NoteCore, exactly the same way you can flash a TW rom from a CM kernel, as long as it's a safe kernel you can do whatever you want.
Now, if you flash NoteCore *after* you flash CM, your device won't boot, however you can always use the recovery to install a CM kernel or just a TW rom.
You do NOT need to flash a whole GB ROM, you can just flash the kernel and boot into it's recovery.
Also, you do NOT need a GB kernel or Abyss to flash anything as long as you have a safe kernel, aka SpeedMod, NoteCore, CM9/10, Thor, etc.
Your statement about flashing a whole GB ROM just to flash CM is misleading and wrong.
I still appreciate all your useful posts.
@PierreTech, it is 100% safe to wipe and install CM from NoteCore.
Steps :
0. Do a nandroid backup or a titanium backup. (optional really)
1. Reboot into recovery.
2. Do a factory reset.
3. Install CM9/10/whatever.
4. If it doesn't include google apps, make sure you have the appropriate zip file and flash it too.
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Hehe dr.ketan I gotta agree this guy... You can use notecore kernel to flash any ICS custom rom... Aosp or tw.. As when you flash the rom via cwm the rom will flash its own kernel... In the case of CM9/10 the proper kernel will be flashed along with the rom overwriting notecore/speedmod..
But I can not agree the tone he does make things clear.. He could just kindly say no dude this works this way or that...
I'm sure you know way more things than me or him but in this little thing they guy its right
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I meant no disrespect to dr.ketan, without his great guide I wouldn't have been able to root my phone.
Oh, i really dont mind. It.is possible i may not knowing everything . My opinion was just based on Instruction on cm9 thread where it is mentioned that cm based rom shudn't flash on ics based rom, and that only thing i took into reference. I never have used any custom rom so may be not aware of fact, but this also be useful if such clearification to be made on installation instruction on op of cm rom thread, as really i m feeling awkward to go against developers instruction.
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@life.eq.null
You finds my statement to flash full rom misleading and wrong, but actually
I already used word 'GB ROM/Kernel' to flash.
That just means either rom or kernel. I never said you need to flash only ROM. I showing you one possibility, if someone on Non rootable GB ROM, then it will not be easy task to flash Full prerooted/rootable ROM to get CWM? in that case it is niether misleading nor 100% wrong.
Now here i am copying text written on CM9 thread installation instruction
Make sure to run CM9 or an AOSP-based ROM : FLASHING FROM STOCK ICS OR ROMS BASED ON STOCK ICS WILL RESULT IN A BRICK!
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Now if my statement is 100% wrong. totally misleading then you should head up to developers of CM9, to edit instruction in more clear way. b'coz here ROM itself said to avoid, no instruction about to use safe kernel mentioned.
I am agree your information may be recent and experience based, even i can say may be better and useful to users who are on safe kernel. But that doesn't make older instruction wrong and misleading, when till now everybody following this instruction which is instructed by developer only.
Regards.
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That's the reason why i'm doubting to flash cm10 over my rom/kernel.. Anyway thanks. Learned a lot
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That's the reason why i'm doubting to flash cm10 over my rom/kernel.. Anyway thanks. Learned a lot
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"Quote:
Make sure to run CM9 or an AOSP-based ROM : FLASHING FROM STOCK ICS OR ROMS BASED ON STOCK ICS WILL RESULT IN A BRICK!"
I think they only talk about the Kernel, not about the whole rom. I flashed many times a cm9 rom on a stock ics rom, but always AFTER flashing through CWM a safe cm9 kernel, or abyssnote4.2.
from ics stock, usually I boot to recovery, apply the cleaning script Sybr, flash my safe kernel (do not reboot, it will work now), do the 3 wipes, then flash new rom cm9 based. then reboot.
Looks like the Stunner ROM thread is dead here. I'm on stunner rom 1.6.26 (kernel version3.0.32-CM-g12ef675) and I want to get on another rom. What all do I have to do in order to get off of Stunner rom safely? What roms would you recommend that I move too and why?
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Looks like the Stunner ROM thread is dead here. I'm on stunner rom 1.6.26 (kernel version3.0.32-CM-g12ef675) and I want to get on another rom. What all do I have to do in order to get off of Stunner rom safely? What roms would you recommend that I move too and why?
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You are on safe kernel so can flash custom roms directly using cwm. But to avoid any issue best is to flash pre-rooted GB rom using odin and then flash any custom rom you like.
My personal fav are Kingdroid, Criskelo and there is no why, I like them does not means others will like them too, it's just matter of personal choice as all roms are almost equally good .
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You are on safe kernel so can flash custom roms directly using cwm. But to avoid any issue best is to flash pre-rooted GB rom using odin and then flash any custom rom you like.
My personal fav are Kingdroid, Criskelo and there is no why, I like them does not means others will like them too, it's just matter of personal choice as all roms are almost equally good .
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Thanks for the reply jeetu1981. Is there a certain Pre Rooted GB ROM that I should use to flash? Or do I download a GB rom and THEN root it? Do I use PC odin or Mobile odin? Seems that since I'm on a safe kernel can I just install a rom using a zip, wiping everything and still be safe? Would that be easier or do you recommend I just flash the GB rom first?
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Thanks for the reply jeetu1981. Is there a certain Pre Rooted GB ROM that I should use to flash? Or do I download a GB rom and THEN root it? Do I use PC odin or Mobile odin? Seems that since I'm on a safe kernel can I just install a rom using a zip, wiping everything and still be safe? Would that be easier or do you recommend I just flash the GB rom first?
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Look at my sig. for pre rooted GB, flash it via odin. For better performance GB is recommended but you can flash any custom rom directly as well (being on safe kernel), try it and if you see any lags or issues in performance then do a fresh flash
And yes, wipe is safe on CM and safe custom TW ics kernels. And I would have directly flashed another rom in this situation
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Looks like the Stunner ROM thread is dead here. I'm on stunner rom 1.6.26 (kernel version3.0.32-CM-g12ef675) and I want to get on another rom. What all do I have to do in order to get off of Stunner rom safely? What roms would you recommend that I move too and why?
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there are two ways..
First
Flash a gb rom or prerooted gb rom via pcodin or mobile odin
Or
As you are on stunner which uses a safe kernel just go to recovery,do wipes,flash rom and reboot.as simple as that...
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Hiya
Was thinking of reverting back to stock ICS 4.0.4 but with all the unsafe kernel stuff going on I was wondering, what is the best way to proceed?
I want to revert because I feel that the stock rom was overall more stable and always "worked", but I dont want to brick my phone and I'd like to be able to change rom if something better comes along
Currently im running the stable GT n7000 release from cynagenmod, with CWM 6.0.1.0
So any pointers?
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Hiya
Was thinking of reverting back to stock ICS 4.0.4 but with all the unsafe kernel stuff going on I was wondering, what is the best way to proceed?
I want to revert because I feel that the stock rom was overall more stable and always "worked", but I dont want to brick my phone and I'd like to be able to change rom if something better comes along
Currently im running the stable GT n7000 release from cynagenmod, with CWM 6.0.1.0
So any pointers?
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If your on ics better be in safekernel like notecore, speedmod, or goku.
Flash gb rom first and do the 3 wiping before flashing the ics, use pc odin. This is clean install, its the best way before installing an ics.
Just flash ics using pc odin.
And dont forget to be on safe kernel after flash.
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Hi i'm new here, just installed Carbon Rom JellyBean v1.7 Release and the kernel is from the ROM itself (3.0.31-CM-g209ebe6)
Question is:
1) Can i install SpeedMod N7000 Jelly Bean Kernel on that ROM?
2) If yes, Can this ROM be installed with ANY N7000 Kernel?
Big thanks and sorry if i'm being too noob
And excuse my english, too
No, the speedmod is for the Touchwiz based [TW] ROMs. Carbon ROM is CyanogenMod [CM] based. So not all kernels can be installed on any ROM, when u read a kernel thread, you'll have the compatibility of the kernel with ROMs written in that. Never flash any kernel on an incompatible ROM, may lead to a brick.
Oh i see. So is it okay if i install CM9 Kernel on a CM10.1 ROM?
I am not sure about tthat, but better not flash it on CM10 as most likely it won't work, CM 10 is a totally new version. Better not try it.
No. You cant flash different version kernel on different roms. CM10.1 only supports CM10.1 kernels. Currently there are NX kernel and Asylum kernel for this.
Remember never flash different kernel on different rom. This will brick your device.
Alright thanks. Any recommendations of kernel that can do over clock and gaming ? Currently my Real Racing 3 just plays at 12fps.. That's unplayable for me. Thanks before
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NX kernel for CM based ROMs, check out the various kernels in the Android Development thread... Many CM based ROMs will have the CPU frequency option in the performance control menu. Careful, overclocking can have adverse effects, may fry up the motherboard...
Thanks, that kernel should have increase my performance right?
But signal problem was reported if i'm not mistaken. So i'm a bit confused as i do a lot of phone calls.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192893&highlight=nx+kernel Read the features of the kernel in this thread. No there wont be any connectivity issues, NX kernel or the CM kernel are stable ones. If there are some issues, then flash a stable version of those kernels.
OK, when the process is successful, will i lose my data?
If you just flash the kernel then no you won't. You lose the data only if you do a Factory reset (Data wipe from the recovery). You have already installed Carbon ROM now just go to recovery and flash the .zip kernel file.
Then what about if i want to Change ROM , but it requires wiping data. If i restore the CWM backup , then it'll get to the previous ROM, no?
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Then what about if i want to Change ROM , but it requires wiping data. If i restore the CWM backup , then it'll get to the previous ROM, no?
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Yes, you can backup and restore CWM
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Yes, you can backup and restore CWM
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NO, i mean this:
I have ROM A , i backup via CWM then i flash ROM B. To flash , i must wipe data. Then i wipe data.
If i restore backup from CWM, will i get ROM A or still ROM B ?
excuse my poor english
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NO, i mean this:
I have ROM A , i backup via CWM then i flash ROM B. To flash , i must wipe data. Then i wipe data.
If i restore backup from CWM, will i get ROM A or still ROM B ?
excuse my poor english
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If your ROM A is completely backed up. Yes after wiping data and restoring you will get ROM A and ROM B will be completely gone
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If your ROM A is completely backed up. Yes after wiping data and restoring you will get ROM A and ROM B will be completely gone
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So to backup contacts apps etc.. Can I use ROM Toolbox's app manager? Thanks
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Yes you can, back up contacts using google account or even via apps like go backup. Apps back up can be done via Titanium Backup, it is very convenient.
Well then thanks guys , really appreciate your help
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NO, i mean this:
I have ROM A , i backup via CWM then i flash ROM B. To flash , i must wipe data. Then i wipe data.
If i restore backup from CWM, will i get ROM A or still ROM B ?
excuse my poor english
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Rom a.
Sorry, bit late off the mark, didn't see the second page :sly:
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