I don't know if you guys saw the news but I was looking forward to AT&T adding family data plans in hopes I'd save some cash. Well they announced them today and it's a nightmare. Currently I'm paying $50 for 2 gigs per line, total 4. Under AT&Ts new plan I'd have to pay $85 a month for 1 gig! They aren't making you switch but still wtf?
I'm sick of carriers and carrier phones. I love my vivid but can't deny the fact that with the new features of ICS came new bugs, and it's looking like we're left for dead. The Vivid is hitting eol status on some carriers, and it came out after the Google flagship! And I hate seeing that ugly at&t logo. Freaking ruining the looks of my phone pasted dead center on the bottom of the front. And they lock these phones down so much that hacking them is getting harder to impossible! A couple years ago CyanogenMod was a safe bet but due to ril issues we sure don't have that option.
Updates are only going to get worse. I'm at the point now where if it doesn't have a Nexus in the brand name I can't recommend it. Android phones are slowly but surely becoming the new feature phones. And every device I've had, updates brought new issues with them and the carriers never released any updates to fix those issues. You shouldn't have to root your phone to take care of them!
So for the half assed treatment we get for buying the carrier phones what do we get in return from them? Higher rates with excuses. They claim "due to the high costs of today's smartphone" ah save it! My old Samsung Eternity dumb phone was $450 off contract, a Galaxy Nexus is $350 so how do smartphone costs have anything do do with their nickle and diming? Why does my insurance deductible cost $120 now when my old eternity was only $50 and costs the same amount?
But you know what? When your contract is up or if you own your own phone you don't save anything. So how do smartphone costs have anything to do then? I should get a discount if I choose to not subsidize my phone but nope that's not how they roll.
I don't plan on getting rid of this phone anytime but I may after the next Nexus is announced. I'll see how I like it then. At any rate I'll continue to be an AT&T customer until March of 2014 and then at that point I'll be taking whatever phone I have to a no contract low cost option. I'm sick of carriers and sick of their phones too.
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I used a non-carrier phone for the last year, as well as a carrier-based phone. I had planned to switch to virgin mobile, and bought an LG smartphone. I set it up with Google Voice and Groove IP for calling, rooted it with no worries, loaded it up with free apps and the latest ROMs. It did a great job with email, texting, internet, all the same stuff we do on our Vivids. The only down side was the occasional lack of WiFi. If WiFi is e easy to get to, it is a nice way to go. I got a kick out of showing people my android phone running ice cream sandwich and telling them I paid 0 per month.
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I used a non-carrier phone for the last year, as well as a carrier-based phone. I had planned to switch to virgin mobile, and bought an LG smartphone. I set it up with Google Voice and Groove IP for calling, rooted it with no worries, loaded it up with free apps and the latest ROMs. It did a great job with email, texting, internet, all the same stuff we do on our Vivids. The only down side was the occasional lack of WiFi. If WiFi is e easy to get to, it is a nice way to go. I got a kick out of showing people my android phone running ice cream sandwich and telling them I paid 0 per month.
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Ha I know a guy that uses an old iphone 3g as a wifi only phone. What you do is get a portable wifi hotspot, it's what $25 a month? Keep that in your pocket and you can use wifi for everything! There was a write up on lifehacker back in the day about making a poor man's iphone with a portable wifi hotspot and an ipod touch lol.
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BTW I'm not ripping on the vivid so much as the carrier. I like my phone but I almost regret it just because I'm financially obligated to at&t till 2015 now. I really feel like for a measly 4 gigs on 2 lines. I'm already paying too much and I was hoping with maybe a little relief with shared plans and they totally blow. I really don't get how it's "shared" with a per line fee. Total lunacy! You'd have to be insane to switch.
The phone I don't regret, the upgrade that required 2 more years of service I regret if that makes sense.
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T Mobile. $60 dollars a month, no contract. Includes Unlimited talk and text with 2GB of data. $70 is unlimited talk, text and 5GB and its much better than AT&T. I made the switch and haven't had a dropped call since.
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I'm currently running H20 wireless 60$ dollars a month unlimited talk and text but just with 2g of data it connects on att towers.
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Yeah I think I'll look into straight Talk and t mobile. Hell without the contract, and an unlocked nexus that works on all gsm bands you can go wherever you want
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Unlocked nexus I would get on T-Mobile.Ran it on the vivid just get edge other than that I would be on T-Mobile lol
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Unlocked nexus I would get on T-Mobile.Ran it on the vivid just get edge other than that I would be on T-Mobile lol
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Yeah the nexus has T-mobile and AT&T bands for fake 4G, thats what sucks about carrier phones lol. you really can't take them anywhere else. AT&T and T-mobile phones are interchangeable except for the 3G bands, thats pretty much the main difference. So if you get a T-mobile phone it won't work on AT&T's 3G network, and AT&T's 3G phones won't work on T-mobile's 3G network.
I remember the Nexus one Google actually made 2 versions of it because of the bands, but the Galaxy nexus has all GSM bands, which is nice
I work at a junior college with two campuses. One of them is kind of up in the hills, and the *only* signal they get is AT&T, so I am pretty much stuck with that until my job changes. I've been paying about $70/month for two dumb phones, just upped my bill by $30 (minus my discount) for the Vivid. I'm not complaining, but my daughter is moving out and wants to bail on AT&T entirely, probably go Virgin Mobile no contract. That is still the cheapest I have found.
I work at a junior college with two campuses. One of them is kind of up in the hills, and the *only* signal they get is AT&T, so I am pretty much stuck with that until my job changes. I've been paying about $70/month for two dumb phones, just upped my bill by $30 (minus my discount) for the Vivid. I'm not complaining, but my daughter is moving out and wants to bail on AT&T entirely, probably go Virgin Mobile no contract. That is still the cheapest I have found.
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Yeah that's typical of college campuses. I remember my brother had to get Verizon when he went to ball state because no other carrier could get a signal there. My issue with virgin is they run on Sprints network which is cdma and with cdma you pretty much are buying a phone that only works on one network.
Straight Talk seems like the best deal from what I've seen because you basically can get any carriers service without going through the carrier. The Android phones they sell run on sprints network but many people on xda have bought unlocked nexuses and basically gotten service through AT&T without the at&t hassle
See only tmobile does it right in that if you own your phone you save money. If subsiding the phones really are costing at&t and Verizon that much then both should offer discounts or better plans for those who have their own phones and don't opt to bite on early upgrades etc.
Either way I'm stuck with at&t till March of 2014 so I went ahead and grabbed the 3 gig data plan before it goes away in August. Me and my wife were both on the 2 gigs for $25 each plan. In February they killed that plan off in favor of a 3 gig for $30 plan. I kept both our plans at the time as I hadn't yet discovered Google Music and had a hard time even using a gig but now with slacker and Google I'm having to constantly monitor my data and still find myself rationing the last few days of my billing cycle with only 250 megs remaining. The extra gig is just enough really to not have to worry about it. Figure get it now before they do away with it in august!
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I'm selling my Vivid. I've only had it two months, but I need the cash to finance new Galaxy Nexus I got this week. The Nexus is wide open to development and has a thriving (mostly positive) community. AT&T really hobbled the Vivid, which could have been so much more. Whether that's the reason for the negativity surrounding this phone, I don't know, but I don't see myself going back to a carrier phone again.
I like HTC phones, though. I wish it was somehow possible to magically merge the Nexus guts with the Vivid's case and screen. Maybe someday HTC will make a Nexus for Google.
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I'm selling my Vivid. I've only had it two months, but I need the cash to finance new Galaxy Nexus I got this week. The Nexus is wide open to development and has a thriving (mostly positive) community. AT&T really hobbled the Vivid, which could have been so much more. Whether that's the reason for the negativity surrounding this phone, I don't know, but I don't see myself going back to a carrier phone again.
I like HTC phones, though. I wish it was somehow possible to magically merge the Nexus guts with the Vivid's case and screen. Maybe someday HTC will make a Nexus for Google.
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Yeah I do think all the security hurdles cause mysterious issues in roms, then the average xda member gets mad at the developers for not fixing the issues, then the developer snaps back, then mods get involved and the developer gets banned, then the members are like wtf, they get mad back and next thing you know the whole community is in disarray!
At least that's my thoughts.
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I actually wanted a nexus. I was hoping at&t would announce it on contract and I got sick of waiting. Me and my wife were both tired of our lagtivates, and I talked to at&t about early upgrades and got me and my wife both Vivid's. And I swear right after my 30 days Google announced the nexus for 400 bucks on the play store. The word I said when I saw the article started with f and was 4 letters long.
That being said I don't hate the phone its fast, and has a kick ass camera but I also thought I wouldn't be interested in flashing custom roms if I had a nice enough phone. No other way to sum it up than saying this is not a developers phone and in those regards I do regret it a bit, however if I really wanted to get a nexus, well a vivid is worth more than a Captivate ebay anyway.
Other than battery life I got no complaints
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I buy the phones and just use wifi. And I have a free phone for calls only. Bottom line you dont need data to use android. Just wondering how long that will last before they make it mandatory to have a data plan. To make people like me pay for service.?
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Lol carriers. Get a Straight Talk AT&T Sim. $45/month for unlimited talk, text, and 2gb data, no contract. Beats the piss out of AT&T, H2O, and every other carrier and MVNO out there. QFT
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I buy the phones and just use wifi. And I have a free phone for calls only. Bottom line you dont need data to use android. Just wondering how long that will last before they make it mandatory to have a data plan. To make people like me pay for service.?
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You must be on an olllld contract. On newer plans, if they discover you have a smartphone on a "dumb phone" plan, they'll "upgrade" you into the most expensive data plan. AT&T did that to my wife when I dropped her SIM into an old iPhone. She was happy to use it as Wi-Fi only, but got a text saying they discovered the change and were changing her plan.
I fought with all four carriers about this. None of them will sell you a smartphone anymore without forcing you into a data plan. They claim that people were buying smartphones without data plans, and then complaining when they got charged for using data. Jerks.
The only thing I like about buying phones on carrier is that they are piss cheap, and I have trouble justifying 4x the cost for a phone from overseas.
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Lol carriers. Get a Straight Talk AT&T Sim. $45/month for unlimited talk, text, and 2gb data, no contract. Beats the piss out of AT&T, H2O, and every other carrier and MVNO out there. QFT
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Actually, ST's data is unlimited, not 2GB, for that price.
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I think carriers subsiding days are numbered honestly, largely thanks to Google and the cheap tablet wars, as cell phone hardware is getting cheap and then Verizon wants to sell you a locked down Motorola that takes a year to get an update for $300 on contract, but you can get a nexus, have your updates instantly and only pay $50 more! It's not just the nexus that's cheap either, that new sexy Motorola Atrix HD is only $450 no commitment. I mean if you absolutely have to have a gs3 or one x yeah subsiding is your best bet but there are quickly becoming a alot of good phones for $350 to $500.
I'm ready for it to end. If subsiding ends and people start wanting to hold on to their phones, manufacturers will make less phones, and support them better. I can't fault any manufacturer right now for not having jelly bean as without source they can't do anything, but 6 months to a year is a bit much and to stop supporting a phone like ours when it's only been out like 8 months, but I'm tied to it for at least 18 months, well that's just lunacy!
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to stop supporting a phone like ours when it's only been out like 8 months, but I'm tied to it for at least 18 months, well that's just lunacy!
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I find it ridiculous how a lot of the phones are made to barely even last through 6 months of light use, and you end up having to 1) Cheat the company out of a replacement. or 2) Pay for another phone without the contract discount, and still be stuck with that company. Straight Talk looks really really appealing, I've been dying for a good enough reason to sell my Vivid, and go Galaxy Nexus and being able to switch from at&t to a cheaper/better alternative whenever I want without buying a new phone would be great.
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Have you guys seen this? Doesn't totally surprise me. I figured it would happen sooner or later. Still makes me sad though.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...plans-for-existing-subscribers/?tag=cnetRiver
as soon as it happens, I'm cancelling my contract (since they violated the TOS), and jumping ship to an MNVO.
I don't mind not having unlimited data so as far as my bill reflects that.
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as soon as it happens, I'm cancelling my contract (since they violated the TOS), and jumping ship to an MNVO.
I don't mind not having unlimited data so as far as my bill reflects that.
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Please forgive my ignorance, but what is an MNVO?
I don't know if they would be violating the TOS. I'm pretty sure the contracts that we all signed gave them the right to change any damn thing they want, whenever they want to.
This move has probably been planne for since 4g was a but a twinkle in their eye.
I'm pretty sure we'll have to wait out our "upgraded" contracts until the original end dates. And they're betting that by then, we'll have gotten used to the "upgrades."
I just love that have the nuts to call this an upgrade. Freaking hilarious.
well from what ive read, it's for customers with a 3G phone going to a 4G phone. I think if you don't upgrade from them you should be able to keep it. Looks like if the Nexus line expands and is sold through the google play store, im buying my phones straight from google
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well from what ive read, it's for customers with a 3G phone going to a 4G phone. I think if you don't upgrade from them you should be able to keep it. Looks like if the Nexus line expands and is sold through the google play store, im buying my phones straight from google
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that how i'm reading it too, it doesn't sound like i will be required to change my data plan until i upgrade again.
The way it will likely work is that as 3G unlimited contracts expire, Verizon will push subscribers to upgrade their devices to smartphones on company's 4G LTE network. These customers will then have to sign up for the data share plans.
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that how i'm reading it too, it doesn't sound like i will be required to change my data plan until i upgrade again.
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Probably. But that's the velvet glove. Do we know anything about the iron hand inside? If Verizon's spiel is "Upgrade to 4G LTE" and the customer's response is "No thanks", will Verizon counter with "Upgrade to LTE or else find another provider"?
The mindset I'm sensing behind killing off grandfathered unlimited is that they want all of their customers capped, and if you won't be capped, you won't be their customer. They're playing chicken, and most of their affected customer base will be the first to flinch.
They updated their plan...
http://m.cnet.com/news/57436642
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When does this take into effect
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When does this take into effect
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Verizon hasn't said anything more exact than "this summer".
Class action lawsuit.
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They updated their plan...
http://m.cnet.com/news/57436642
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Yeah, looks like they've opened a loophole in their plan. You lose your grandfathered unlimited if you buy a subsidized new phone (i.e., renew contract). So, if you craigslist or ebay a phone, and convince Verizon to activate it, you'll keep the unlimited data. (Or, if you like giving money to Verizon, buy the phone new from them.)
Interesting. I wonder how many upgrading customers who want the new-new shiny and don't pay much attention to contract plan dynamics will miss that distinction and lose their unlimited access without fully realizing it?
Yup im switching to tmobile! This is such bs!! Tmobile will b the only carrier left with "unlimited" data, after verizon pulls this stunt!!! Oh well, tmobile @ least has the one series phones. Suck it verizon!!
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Please forgive my ignorance, but what is an MNVO?
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Its fake cellphone company, Basically the mvno just runs a billing system but "borrows" the cellphone network from someone like Att.
virgin mobile is an example of an mvno as they run off of the sprint network
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator
Just upgrade now, or get a new one off cl like someone already stated
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Wow, ridiculous. Does your greed know no bounds, Verizon?
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So Verizon will no longer offer unlimited data plans to customers, but you can keep yours. When getting a new phone however you must purchase it in full. THat means around 500dollars per phone usually.
Motorola is also releasing updates now to their unlocked devices and locking them.
**** Verizon and Motorola.
My next phone will be a HTC or Samsung on (insert network name here that offers best data plan). i wont be bullied anymore. This is beyond ridiculous.
Just buy phones locally then. Plus, off contract phones are better then being locked down.
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So Verizon will no longer offer unlimited data plans to customers, but you can keep yours. When getting a new phone however you must purchase it in full. THat means around 500dollars per phone usually.
Motorola is also releasing updates now to their unlocked devices and locking them.
**** Verizon and Motorola.
My next phone will be a HTC or Samsung on (insert network name here that offers best data plan). i wont be bullied anymore. This is beyond ridiculous.
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Will it looks like after that happens if i need a new phone and have to buy it out right then i will just swich to straight talk because 45 a mouth unlimited talk text and web that beats ne paying the BIG V 400 mouth any ways so i think i will unlock my droid 3 now thanks for the info man
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Just buy phones locally then. Plus, off contract phones are better then being locked down.
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yea i know, i used to live in europe and thats the way my parents bought them for me. but im a college student, i dont have half a G to spend on a nice phone :/ i wish these big corporations would stop tryin to mess us over. They have all the coverage so they can do what they want now.
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Will it looks like after that happens if i need a new phone and have to buy it out right then i will just swich to straight talk because 45 a mouth unlimited talk text and web that beats ne paying the BIG V 400 mouth any ways so i think i will unlock my droid 3 now thanks for the info man
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how is the coverage with straighttalk though? the plans seem to much of a great deal to not have some drawback somewhere. otherwise why are they not leading the market lol
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So Verizon will no longer offer unlimited data plans to customers, but you can keep yours. When getting a new phone however you must purchase it in full. THat means around 500dollars per phone usually.
Motorola is also releasing updates now to their unlocked devices and locking them.
**** Verizon and Motorola.
My next phone will be a HTC or Samsung on (insert network name here that offers best data plan). i wont be bullied anymore. This is beyond ridiculous.
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I think you have a couple of misconceptions going on there. You are confusing the brand of phone and the carrier. It's verizon billing you for data. Motorola has nothing to do with that. Buy an HTC or Samsung phone on Verizon and the price for data is the same as if you bought a Motorola phone. Buy a Motorola phone on a different carrier and the price for data on that phone will be the same as any other phone on that carrier.
Also how do you figure $500 per phone? Currently I'm one of the people grandfathered in on an unlimited data plan. That's $30 per month for unlimited data. So over the course of a 24 month contract, I'll actually pay $720 for data. People who are not grandfathered are still paying the same $720 over 24 months but are only getting 2 GB per month. Since 2 GB is plenty for me, it doesn't much matter.
The only difference with the new plans coming out this summer is that data is charged per account rather than per phone. If you add a tablet for example, you don't necessarily have to pay for any more data if both devices together stay within the cap. The thing is everyone is panicking and complaining before we even know what the caps will be and what the price will be for each tier.
For example if it were still $30 for two gigabytes I could actually save $30 per month. currently my wife has her $30 and I have my $30 for a total of $60 between us. But we each on our own have never exceeded 900 MB so we could switch to a pool of 2 GB total to share between us and end up paying half as much total. but we need to know the facts and figures to make those comparisons...
And right now, everyone complaining doesn't have any more idea than I do.
I'm just done with Verizon. I'm going with prepaid now. :|
Lol ratman you read my post wrong. Ill explain
Motorola sent a update locking an unlocked phone. Im assuming the trend dwill continue as they havent started unlocking phones they said they would. But instead doing the opposite and locking unlocked phones..
Seperately, verizon is getting rid of unlimited or 2gb data plan. You can keep it if you already have it but if you want to get a new phone (using it for your unlimited) you must buy it completely. Meaning around 500 dollars. Thats how much phones actually cost if you dont buy with a plan.
I believe you still can upgrade for free however on your plan
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yea i know, i used to live in europe and thats the way my parents bought them for me. but im a college student, i dont have half a G to spend on a nice phone :/ i wish these big corporations would stop tryin to mess us over. They have all the coverage so they can do what they want now.
how is the coverage with straighttalk though? the plans seem to much of a great deal to not have some drawback somewhere. otherwise why are they not leading the market lol[/QUOTED
Straight talk has good coverage there is one drawback after you go over 2 gb of net they slow your speed down but its still fast as hell even when they do my bro has it and uses it for the net with his laptop with his droid 3 and same speed as me if not faster and so its a good deal but to get good phones like the razer droid 3 and iphone you have to buy them out right and also somthing cool you can have any att phone and you do not have to get it unlocked they have a sim that works with it!
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Lol throttling is alot better than having a cap. Honestly that is not an issue to me. But thanks man your a god for that info, im going to look more into it and see if that is a good alternative. Sounds great so far :]
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yea i know, i used to live in europe and thats the way my parents bought them for me. but im a college student, i dont have half a G to spend on a nice phone :/ i wish these big corporations would stop tryin to mess us over. They have all the coverage so they can do what they want now.
how is the coverage with straighttalk though? the plans seem to much of a great deal to not have some drawback somewhere. otherwise why are they not leading the market lol
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I currently use straight talk service with my droid 3 and it is awesome. With the droid 3 you get the option to get an att or a tmobile based sim card and you get all their normal coverage.
Looks like straight talk just earned a new customer :] well once i get my job lmao
When the time comes, I'll probably pay full price for my next phone. I just won't purchase it from Verizon. I'll buy something that'll work on their network, but without the stupid locked bootloader or bloatware.
I just got done reading an article from USA Today that was talking about how users who have grandfathered data will be forced to select one of Verizon's shared family plans or tiered plans if or when they go to upgrade their device.
I really despise Verizon for this and will be heading to sprint if I have to give up unlimited data. If they think they will make more money from this move, I suggest everyone leave Verizon and show them the error in their ways.
And just wait, they are trying to eliminate unlimited data for home internet also and the head of the FCC supports limited data. Online gaming and video will suffer and our country will wonder why businesses will struggle. Who's going to let their kids play online games when they have to watch their data usage. Bad news for companies like Sony who have the PS3 and online gaming and bad news for online video streaming companies like Netflix.
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In the end though, I really can't see Verizon being too negatively affected by all of this. The heavy duty users will either pony up the extra cash (because of Sprint's shoddy coverage) or leave and bog down another carriers network.
I have unlimited data right now, and I rarely go over 2GB and I've never been over 4. I stream music pretty often, use fox-fi for thether, and spend a good bit of time on my phone.
Does it suck? Yea. Will it get me to switch? Probably not. I guess it depends on what the pricing structure looks like. I'm intrigued by the idea of the shared data plans too.
Cut off will be June 27th 1159pm to keep it for one last contract.
New plans are expensive! http://solutions.vzwshop.com/shareeverything/pdf/verizon_share_everything_plan_details.pdf
I love Verizon...I have 2 lines on my account (both Bionics) one has the 10GB plan and my wife has the 6GB + mobile hotspot and our monthly bill is around $215/month. Plenty of data for that price.
Peace.
Your on xda, and still paying for the hotspot service? We're the reason Verizon started offering the tethering service in the first place once they realized we were already doing it for free.
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Believe me I love FoxFi. My wife is a by the book type person.
She uses the hotspot feature for work as a necessity. No matter how many times I tell her that I'm 99% sure she wouldn't get caught using FoxFi she comes back and says that what if they do? I need this for work! I then just sigh.
I think if they are going to force limited data plans on us, at least give an exemption for apps such as Netflix. You will eat your plan up real fast just by streaming a couple movies.
Also include services such as slacker radio and Pandora into the exemption.
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So if we have grandfathered unlimited data (we been on verizon for years) do we keep it as long as we dont upgrade or buy phones off contract (like ebay)?
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So if we have grandfathered unlimited data (we been on verizon for years) do we keep it as long as we dont upgrade or buy phones off contract (like ebay)?
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This is precisely how to keep unlimited data.
If Verizon sells you a subsidized phone, that's where they get to force you into a new contract.
If you buy a phone at full retail price from Verizon, or buy a used phone from a place like eBay or Swappa your unlimited data is safe.
Even if you're sitting on something like a Samsung Fascinate, you can go on Craigslist and buy a Razr Maxx, head to a Verizon store, and get a free SIM card to continue service on the Razr Maxx. Nothing on your plan changes except a line item or two for $0.00 indicating that you have 4G Unlimited instead of 3G Unlimited.
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This is precisely how to keep unlimited data.
If Verizon sells you a subsidized phone, that's where they get to force you into a new contract.
If you buy a phone at full retail price from Verizon, or buy a used phone from a place like eBay or Swappa your unlimited data is safe.
Even if you're sitting on something like a Samsung Fascinate, you can go on Craigslist and buy a Razr Maxx, head to a Verizon store, and get a free SIM card to continue service on the Razr Maxx. Nothing on your plan changes except a line item or two for $0.00 indicating that you have 4G Unlimited instead of 3G Unlimited.
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This is wrong. That is how it used to work before, now if you attempt to activate a new phone you will be forced to choose new plan options before they will activate it, regardless of where you got your phone. Welcome to the new Verizon.
I will probably be forced off of Verizon at some point. I am already paying $245 a month for 2 androids with unlimited talk, text, and data with insurance and a $3/month slacker radio subscription.
While the data limitations would be no concern to my girlfriend, I am at 5.341gb for the month, with another week left in the month. They are already getting enough money from us every month.
With the changes, I will be forced to cancel my slacker subscription because I use it mainly while driving and won't be able to do that anymore. I don't mind paying $3 a month for being able to listen to music I like while driving. This is an example of why limited data plans have an economic impact on other companies.
I don't know, but I think $245 a month is enough. Is business really that bad for them that they have to try to push for $300 a month? This is why corporate America is seen as greedy.
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Does this include prepaid also?
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The shared data plans are a complete rip anyway. From what I read, they charge you for the pool, than the first device, than the second device. That means that I would pay the same I pay now for my plan's two devices and only get 4GB of data for the two of them to share. I know exactly what I am going to do when I get my next upgrade; I won't upgrade.
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Believe me I love FoxFi. My wife is a by the book type person.
She uses the hotspot feature for work as a necessity. No matter how many times I tell her that I'm 99% sure she wouldn't get caught using FoxFi she comes back and says that what if they do? I need this for work! I then just sigh.
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I understand your point. Your wife sounds like someone who should be paying for it since its for work.
Its the average user whom I think its overpriced for. I don't use it myself too often, but I did pay $10 for easy tether so I can hook up through USB and share my data with my computer when I need to. Since I don't typically need other people using my data, I rarely use wifi tether since it kills your battery faster.
I don't just oppose limited data based on my data usage though. I look at the bigger picture. It will slow down technology growth and may put some businesses out of business. Any business that uses bandwidth will be impacted. Customers will be less willing to pay for services that they could be charged twice for using (the service and the data overage charges, Netflix, slacker radio, etc). Even app developers will be impacted because people will be less willing to download as many apps to try out.
Some flashers may impacted as well. Some of us download the roms directly on to our phones. Our data plans would be eaten up a lot just by keeping up to date with the roms.
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Sadly when I first found out about shared family plans I thought it would save me money but it seems to get an amount of data equivalent to what the three basic data packages on my account have i will have to pay a good bit more.
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nullness said:
This is wrong. That is how it used to work before, now if you attempt to activate a new phone you will be forced to choose new plan options before they will activate it, regardless of where you got your phone. Welcome to the new Verizon.
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Okay then. Debunk this article which contains an official statement from Verizon
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...d-data-says-exactly-what-we-already-told-you/
What to do.... I don't think Sprint is an option. Go to AT&T? Is it worth paying list price just to keep unlimited data? Since I am not upgrading soon, I will have the benefit of lots of examples.
ronaldheld said:
What to do.... I don't think Sprint is an option. Go to AT&T? Is it worth paying list price just to keep unlimited data? Since I am not upgrading soon, I will have the benefit of lots of examples.
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AT&T was the first to eliminate unlimited data. They are worse than Verizon. At one point in time, they had their phones locked to where you could only install apps from the android market. They stopped that when Amazon released their own app store and their users couldn't install the Amazon app store, or any of the apps from it.
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Okay then. Debunk this article which contains an official statement from Verizon
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...d-data-says-exactly-what-we-already-told-you/
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That article is a month old...read more recent statements from them.
If you are in a Sprint 4G area, go for it.
I had to have an Airave device just to make a phone call.
Sprint changed their billing, I opted out with no etf's(a moto photon and a nexus s4g, about one month old), went to Verizon, signed on, came home, had full bars of 3G, and a week later they flipped the switch and I now have 4G.
I sent an open signal text to my old Sprint rep showing her the 4G and strength. WHat else could she do?
Okay, I really want this device now. I used the Galaxy Nexus before, liked it, but wasn't a big fan of the camera/battery/slower processor comapred to my Evo 4G LTE. I'm impressed that for once a Nexus Device has cutting edge hardware. So I guess this means I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
Yuhfhrh said:
It's not fair :'(
My grandparents live in a rural area and its where I spend about 1/4 of the year. Tmobile and Att are GPRS, but Sprint and Verizon have 3g. Its the only internet there and I need reliable internet for work. I can't get the new Nexus.
I know I'm in a small boat of people but I'm still going to post my sob story. I just love the Nexus program.
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That really sucks, but yeah, I think Google itself has said that it did not like how the Verizon Galaxy Nexus turned out. In the end, if anyone's been there through the Galaxy S, or S2, or S3, we do know that carrier's influence really does bring down phones, such as a slower processor or bloatware or lack of features. Still, they could have opted for some type of CDMA model but I'm not sure whether they need to work directly with Verizon/Sprint to make it happen.
filmaker said:
Okay, I really want this device now. I used the Galaxy Nexus before, liked it, but wasn't a big fan of the camera/battery/slower processor comapred to my Evo 4G LTE. I'm impressed that for once a Nexus Device has cutting edge hardware. So I guess this means I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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Yeah, I'm kinda bummed about this as well. I'm on Ting, which rides Sprint's network (and occasionally Verizon's voice network), and this phone annihilates everything else in the price range. The best unsubsidized option at $300 at the moment is the Samsung Galaxy Victory, which while capable, isn't exactly a phone to get excited about--while the SGSIII clocks in starting at $530. The Nexus line has been really appealing as far as price/quality goes. I was really hoping this would end up on Sprint so I could send a well-built phone out to my mom in the sticks where LTE probably won't rear it's ugly head for another few years.
Oh well, I suppose I can take solace from the fact that I couldn't get this phone even if I'd stuck with Verizon.
I've been on Cingular then T-Mobile for 4 years. Ported to Verizon just for the Galaxy Nexus. Now I'm paying the ETF and porting over to at&t. No real problems with Verizon, its just their LTE network is abysmal on battery...and I work for at&t so I get a good discount on service. Just waiting for a good reason to switch.
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I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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You'll be glad once you do too, unless you are living in some area where there is no access to T-Mobile 3G. Otherwise its so much better.
eksasol said:
You'll be glad once you do too, unless you are living in some area where there is no access to T-Mobile 3G. Otherwise its so much better.
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Haha yeah, Sprint has been getting better for me, however their speed still sucks when compared to AT&T and T-mobile in my area. Plus, my plan is nearly $100, when I seriously just want text and data lol, I don't care about talking. And also, I find it annoying being on a CDMA network because all these great phone come out, and I have to wait a pro-longed time period to get my hands on one.
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Okay, I really want this device now. I used the Galaxy Nexus before, liked it, but wasn't a big fan of the camera/battery/slower processor comapred to my Evo 4G LTE. I'm impressed that for once a Nexus Device has cutting edge hardware. So I guess this means I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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I am switching from Sprint for this very reason. Tired of missing out on all the good phones aaaaaannnnnnnd Sprint service is horrible in centrel florida
drew_grant said:
I've been on Cingular then T-Mobile for 4 years. Ported to Verizon just for the Galaxy Nexus. Now I'm paying the ETF and porting over to at&t. No real problems with Verizon, its just their LTE network is abysmal on battery...and I work for at&t so I get a good discount on service. Just waiting for a good reason to switch.
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If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
Entropy512 said:
If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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Been there done that. 2GB of data and I got warning calls. Don't expect them to be good at all!
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Entropy512 said:
If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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I'll be doing the same thing, but I may ride the T-Mobile side of the service for faster 3G.
mattlgroff said:
Been there done that. 2GB of data and I got warning calls. Don't expect them to be good at all!
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I have went over 5gb's a month on ST and never experienced slow down or ever had a warning message
Entropy512 said:
If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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I am planning on leaving sprint to for this devices. Any ideas on what a good carrier to switch too? Without worrying about going over your data limits
eep2378 said:
I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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If T-Mobile coverage is a good option for you Solevei and Simple Mobile are 2 very good alternatives. Solevei doesnt throttle till 4gb and SM states it doesnt throttle at all as long as you play "nice" with the network.
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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There would be (hefty) early termination fees. A nice thing is that even if she has the Verizon version, it can handle GSM.
eep2378 said:
I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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Forewarning on those who want to jump to StraightTalk.
StraightTalk has occasional issues where you will lose Data connectivity and the only solution is to restart hoping it has returned. Happened a lot to my girlfriend and dropped them on September. Rumor has it AT&T is throttling mvno networks or some sort. I haven't heard them fixing the issue but
Reference:
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2012/08/persistent-data-problems-frustrating.html
There are links to various forums there with the same complaint. Try and see if the issue is fixed.
People think T-Mobile will be good and rosy until they actually make the switch to T-Mobile.
I say this... T-Mobile is a good carrier if they have good service where you live and you don't ever leave your area.
But, if you try doing ANY kind of traveling, good luck. I loved T-Mobile when I first got them. I didn't travel much. Then, I started traveling because I got a new job, and I was almost always roaming, had crap service, and tons of dropped calls.
That lasted about a week and then I paid the ETF and got the heck out of there.
No problems on Verizon. Love them, never a dropped call, LTE service almost everywhere I go... Just wish they would stop thinking they're making their users experiences better...THEY AREN'T!
Not sure where you travel, I have always had T-Mobile and travel all over. I cant think of a single time I didnt have good connectivity or service. Any good sized city probably already has "4G" and smaller ones have excellent coverage. I suppose if you find yourself outside of the city you may run into issues, I never have in 5+ years.
ctfrommn said:
Not sure where you travel, I have always had T-Mobile and travel all over. I cant think of a single time I didnt have good connectivity or service. Any good sized city probably already has "4G" and smaller ones have excellent coverage. I suppose if you find yourself outside of the city you may run into issues, I never have in 5+ years.
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T-mobile works fine all over Califoronia, from SD to the norcal. Verizon has the best network service but then again they cost almost double of what t-mobile users are paying. T-mobile users also have unlimited data and up to 5GB of 4G.
Also with simcard base phone, they can be re-used all over the wordl and have higher resell value. You can only sell a verizon phone to verrizon customer.
Not sure if this should go here or not.. But I've been watching the One since it was announced.
And I'm currently on the old $30/month plan from Tmo with an HTC Amaze..
Unfortunately I to get the one from Tmo the require $379 down which is a lot of money at once and will also up my bill to $70
But I also have the option to get one someones Sprint plan and get a One for $99...
But just looking thought the forum, its looking like the GSM One is getting better Dev support
Along with Google ports.
An another possible problem that comes to mind... is CDMA..
I was on sprint awhile ago and Had a HTC Hero and the battery drain was HORRIBLE compared to the my Magic. Not sure if that is still an issue with the new LTE stuff...
But yeah, my real question is, should I go for the Sprint One or hold out a bit and get the Tmo One?
Vonrottes said:
Not sure if this should go here or not.. But I've been watching the One since it was announced.
And I'm currently on the old $30/month plan from Tmo with an HTC Amaze..
Unfortunately I to get the one from Tmo the require $379 down which is a lot of money at once and will also up my bill to $70
But I also have the option to get one someones Sprint plan and get a One for $99...
But just looking thought the forum, its looking like the GSM One is getting better Dev support
Along with Google ports.
An another possible problem that comes to mind... is CDMA..
I was on sprint awhile ago and Had a HTC Hero and the battery drain was HORRIBLE compared to the my Magic. Not sure if that is still an issue with the new LTE stuff...
But yeah, my real question is, should I go for the Sprint One or hold out a bit and get the Tmo One?
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To my knowledge, you're not going to have a significant battery difference between CDMA and GSM. Updates will almost always be slower for us in the Sprint world because GSM variants tend to be more common worldwide, but the devs here work plenty hard. I'd check the forum though yourself to see if there're any ROMs you actually like the look of instead of taking someone else's word on how "good" dev is.
Price-wise, you might be better off going prepaid on T-Mobile, but then you'd need an unlocked GSM One, and that's dicey stuff.
Tmo is the way to go imho. I thought about getting the one when I got my nexus....it's about the only phone I'd consider other than my nexus. I chose the nexus because of the bang for your buck factor and dev support. I'm happy with my choice but I still love the one! Really a beautiful phone, with the guts to match....good luck
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Get tmo. Gsm gets a lot more love
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Yeah, go Tmo. Once you go CDMA, you shall never escape...
T mobile if you can afford it.
You can fully convert it to GPe or dev unlocked edition. It gets more support.
I read somewhere that only Sprint has working Google Wallet, though.
Coverage wise, it depends. Tmo is fantastic here (at least, the HSPA was), but Sprint doesn't even cover some of the places it says has "Good/better 3g".
As someone above said, you should check out the prepaid plans. It might be cheaper/better in the long run if you buy unlocked and just put in a prepaid card. Even if you will go over the data/minutes, the overages may still be cheaper than a contract.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans Check out the $30 one at the bottom. Only 100 mins, but 5GB data.
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pbedard said:
Using my sprint one on T-Mobile lte
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What PRL are you using to get that?
Thanks
pbedard said:
Using my sprint one on T-Mobile lte
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Yeah right
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flex360 said:
Get tmo. Gsm gets a lot more love
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Yep. I think we'd all have T-Mobile over Sprint if we had our choice. But we all have reasons... It's cheaper to stay on Sprint, etc...
tyler.durden said:
Yep. I think we'd all have T-Mobile over Sprint if we had our choice. But we all have reasons... It's cheaper to stay on Sprint, etc...
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Personally I'm staying on Sprint because they are making moves to make a triband network, as opposed to tmo which is a single band network. But at the moment Sprint is just terrible.
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I got mine 2 weeks ago from tmo and they only ask me to pay $100 down and $70 monthly
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xedualMCx said:
I got mine 2 weeks ago from tmo and they only ask me to pay $100 down and $70 monthly
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Tmo base everything off of your credit check when they run it. For example, my cousin was told he he had to put down $500 and I was told $100.
However I chooses to come back to Sprint because I think they have good things coming ahead and plus Tmo service here where I live is little to nonexistent
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I'm on the $30 plan right now. But to finance a phone for me its 3xx down and sixty something a month.
And those 100 minutes burn up FAST.
In the long run sprint is actually going to be cheaper because I'm getting on an existing plan for 20-30 a month for unlimited everything.
But I'm still not sure I want to go CDMA...
I live in Columbus so coverage for both sprint and tmo is great..
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