Nexus 7 Data Usage/Compression - Nexus 7 General

In the past three days I have monitored my Nexus 7 Data Usage screen particularly while connected to my Lumia 900 via Internet Sharing and in that time I have used 1GB worth of "Tethered Data".
The odd thing is that as of Noon today AT&T is only reporting that around 400MB of Data has been used in that same time frame.
I would typically write this off as a delay on AT&T's reporting, however in the past they have consistently reported accurate utilization within a 24 hour period. For example I have previously connected my laptop via Internet Sharing on my Lumia and downloaded a 700+ MB file and had that information presented to me the next afternoon at the latest on AT&T's website.
With the Nexus 7 I used 800MB+ of the 1GB on Day 1 and yet I still only see a total of 400MB having been utilized.
Is there some type of data compression going on with the Nexus 7/Android/Jelly Bean that I am just ignorant about?
Has anyone else seen this type of variance in Data Usage reported by the Nexus 7 and Data Usage reported by AT&T?

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Data Usage - Rough Guide

Hi folks, I am looking at a driod to replace my WM6.5 unit and up till now I have managed to avoid using anything that needed data, reason... I live in Australia and the telcos know how to charge for data like it was gold.
But as a LOT of the new apps and services require data then I have to look at the plans and make a stab based on expected monthly data usage...
I know, I know, how long is the piece of string......
What I am asking is can people give me a rough estimate of monthly data usage on any network with any apps enabled, I reckon with good and bad I can figure out what may be feasible for my selection.
email usage is light, web next to nothing (for now) and not sure about other services, I have wifi at home so would attempt updates and stuff there rather than OTA
Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers
Hey
Well, not sure of my exact data usage, but it would be sure to increase 10 fold (it did for me at least coming from a blackberry). There is so much stuff that can be gained through apps that use data. Maybe you could tell us the various price ranges for the data plans and decide that way?
Aldo there are tons of apps that will monitor your data and give you alerts and such so the fear or unintentionnaly going over is slim.
Hope this helps.
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Chopes said:
Hey
Well, not sure of my exact data usage, but it would be sure to increase 10 fold (it did for me at least coming from a blackberry). There is so much stuff that can be gained through apps that use data. Maybe you could tell us the various price ranges for the data plans and decide that way?
Aldo there are tons of apps that will monitor your data and give you alerts and such so the fear or unintentionnaly going over is slim.
Hope this helps.
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Thats the problem from my end, none of the telcos are helpful as such, they range from 200mb to 1gb but are ALL different in price, so one charges x for 200mb on y cap and another is double for the same 200mb but a different cap
So what I needed was someone to say what they do on an average month, 2mb, 20mb, 784mb, 3.2gb etc etc, this way i can figure out the cort/benefit ratio of cap/plan v's qouta and extras
It seems to me that many apps I use give my flexibility in this area. The main apps I use that download data are configurable of how often to check for updates. For example, I can set my weather widget to download new info anywhere from every 15 min to every couple hours. Also, syncing with gmail and other google services can be turned on and off so you could only have it on when on wifi. Twitter and Facebook apps also have settings to change how often you have them refresh the data. So if you don't use too many apps or just set all of them to only update manually you can limit your data usage by a lot.
OK, can I just ask people to actualy state
HOW MUCH DATA YOU USE PER MONTH
Thank you.
my first month, i have no idea how but i used 3.3gb.
every month after that has been around just under 1gb, except last month when i had to tether my laptop because my home internet was out for a week, the data for that month showed 1.2gb.
I have two widgets, facebook and twitter that sync about every 2-4 hours, i adjust them some times to sync less and i manually sync them if i want to read and am bored. I have newsrob which syncs my google reader articles, sometimes i have that sync every 4 hours sometimes fully manual. I have background data turned on almost all the time and gps turned on always updating my location with latitude, i have gmail and an exchange account syncing for work using ssl. i have last.fm scrobbling all the music i listen to and stream music with it occasionally, not all the time. i browse the web on it quite abit whiel sitting at home and watching movies with the girlfriend as well as look up random facts and other things i come across day to day.
let me know if you need any other input!
I use on average somewhere between 900mb and 1.2gb
Thats streaming Pandora most of the time I'm in my car, using GPS maybe 2-3 times a week and pretty heavy data usage in other ways (i.e web surfing and apps)
I don't do much tethering or downloading of large files. I have tethered a few times but nothing that I would call average.
I used to use about ~2 GB when just using it for Pandora, hulu, and browsing. Now I'm at around 7 GB since I tether.
For comparison, I used 65mb on my bb bold 9000 and now 1gb on my n1. Mostly because its so fast! I do not really stream. I only browse, email, chat and some videos. Its a lot of usage from just browsing
before froyo i ran about 1-1.5 gb a month, now ive tethered a lot and started listening to more music so im up to about 4 gb
silashack said:
OK, can I just ask people to actualy state
HOW MUCH DATA YOU USE PER MONTH
Thank you.
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billing cycle: 7/20 - 8/19
data used: 36Mb
txt (sms to you non american types ): 16
minutes: 13
what I'm using that is data intensive:
google maps- hourly, with two 2 hour driving trips using it
gmail - it pushes all emails
email - check every 15 minutes, two additional accounts
maverick pro - uses gps and data
pandora - no usage this cycle, i usally stream at work, and i'm on vacation this week
normally, if i use pandora, it's for 4-6 hours per day, at roughly 1Mb / 15 mintues
there, hopefully you'll have an idea what a typical nexus user will burn through in a billing period.
I have a 500mb plan, and to date (over a year) I've only come close to that once.
I have Twitter refreshing every 10 minutes, GMail push, Email every 15, and Facebook every 30. Plus some web browsing (of relatively light sites). No video or audio streaming.
On average I'm around 250mb a month now, because we have no wifi at work. When I was in school (wifi on campus, and at home), I never went over 100mb. Usually less than 50.
~600MB monthly.
It consists of me tethering the laptop on the way to work and back ~2 hours a day, mostly. When I didn't use it and just surfed for fun, I'd get ~150MB monthly. When I didn't surf at all, the data apps put me at ~40MB monthly. I'm using Gmail, Gtalk and several smaller-scale apps like Astrid.
THANK YOU THANK YOU to those that actualy posted figures, the plans over here are rather stringent and no way could you support some of the figures you have indicated without incurring signifiacnt costs, I now have an idea that data costs are a priority something I have to factor in to the overall package, and unless the telco has an unlimited plan I have to read the fine print for excess charges VERY clearly.
Thank you once again
I hovered around 7-11gb a month when I was on att wireless. Their footprints issue great in Miami. I swapped to T-Mobile and they suck. Its horrible. I hardly ever touch my phone now. And it shows! I now hover around 300mb-800mb

Data Usage

I'm 10 days into my monthly usage and already I've used 1.5gb, but I hardly use the phone. Is anyone elses' that high?
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I'm 10 days into my monthly usage and already I've used 1.5gb, but I hardly use the phone. Is anyone elses' that high?
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There's a bug with WP7 that causes excessive data usage. Read about it in the main WP7 general section. There's a thread with a link to the story there.
After talking to the tmobile rep, he suggested I use WiFi, but that has a bug also lol.
I primarily use Wifi as it's available 90% of my day. I have the 200mb limit through TMo so I had data turned off for the first 20 days or so except when I needed it. The last 10 days I left it on and closely monitored my usage and I'm at 52mb. Now, I'm not d/l videos and trailers or streaming music, just email and web browsing. I'm thrilled by how little data I've used so far. Going four or five links deep into ESPN or Yahoo amounts to fractions of a mb.
And when I have both WiFi and Data enabled, I've never had an issue of it using data rather than Wifi.
They(tmo) said to monitor this and report back...they said Microsoft is looking for feedback and that's why I started this thread .

[Q] Setup continuously uploading data?

I just recently had a thorough look at my data usage (last 2 months I've been mainly on wi-fi, but going back to work soon..) and I've noticed the Settings process has consumed massive data since December.
I snagged a different app (Traffic Counter) that showed a little more detail. According to it, Setup, Settings, and Clock have uploaded 14.4MB since lastnight, and SIM Toolkit has uploaded 6MB and downloaded 4.6MB.
According to My Data Manager which I've had running for the full biling cycle, this is accounting for 1/3 - 1/2 of my usage over mobile and wi-fi. Any idea why my phone is uploading so much data (back to At&t I assume)?

Atrix HD AT&T Smart Wifi using data?

Hello all.
I work at a Best Buy in the mobile department. Today I had a lady come in and show me that her Atrix HD had used 85 MB of her 200 MB data package. She told me that in the previous month her phone had exceeded her allowance and that she was only two weeks through her current month, and that with her old phone she had barely used the 200 MB at all.
I checked the data usage settings and found out that AT&T Smart Wifi accounted for 60 MB of that 85 MB of usage.
What I would love is if anyone of you have the Atrix HD on the stock ROM with that app, for you to go into your settings and check to see if Smart Wifi is using inordinate data like her phone is. The reason why is simple: AT&T bundled the app into a software update for the phone and made it uninstallable. The average user is not going to figure out how to stop the app from chewing up data like that, so it's potentially costing a lot of people money. If you see similar data usage to what I'm describing, I would love it if you could post screenshots. I want to tip off the tech sites if I can corroborate this, because if this is a real issue and it goes public, we have a chance to make AT&T fix it.
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Hello all.
I work at a Best Buy in the mobile department. Today I had a lady come in and show me that her Atrix HD had used 85 MB of her 200 MB data package. She told me that in the previous month her phone had exceeded her allowance and that she was only two weeks through her current month, and that with her old phone she had barely used the 200 MB at all.
I checked the data usage settings and found out that AT&T Smart Wifi accounted for 60 MB of that 85 MB of usage.
What I would love is if anyone of you have the Atrix HD on the stock ROM with that app, for you to go into your settings and check to see if Smart Wifi is using inordinate data like her phone is. The reason why is simple: AT&T bundled the app into a software update for the phone and made it uninstallable. The average user is not going to figure out how to stop the app from chewing up data like that, so it's potentially costing a lot of people money. If you see similar data usage to what I'm describing, I would love it if you could post screenshots. I want to tip off the tech sites if I can corroborate this, because if this is a real issue and it goes public, we have a chance to make AT&T fix it.
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Nothing on my Atrix HD shows AT&T apps using data at all, but I also skipped that portion of setup and use T-Mobile on my AT&T model.
thelastholdout said:
Hello all.
I work at a Best Buy in the mobile department. Today I had a lady come in and show me that her Atrix HD had used 85 MB of her 200 MB data package. She told me that in the previous month her phone had exceeded her allowance and that she was only two weeks through her current month, and that with her old phone she had barely used the 200 MB at all.
I checked the data usage settings and found out that AT&T Smart Wifi accounted for 60 MB of that 85 MB of usage.
What I would love is if anyone of you have the Atrix HD on the stock ROM with that app, for you to go into your settings and check to see if Smart Wifi is using inordinate data like her phone is. The reason why is simple: AT&T bundled the app into a software update for the phone and made it uninstallable. The average user is not going to figure out how to stop the app from chewing up data like that, so it's potentially costing a lot of people money. If you see similar data usage to what I'm describing, I would love it if you could post screenshots. I want to tip off the tech sites if I can corroborate this, because if this is a real issue and it goes public, we have a chance to make AT&T fix it.
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I disabled mine. I don't know about the app itself using data (although it might download lists of AT&T access points or something), but I did see someone over on AtrixForums.com say that it seemed to make their home WiFi connection unstable when it was running. They were seeing cases where their home connection would disconnect and then subsequent data would be over the carrier connection. I tried it on for a while and generally didn't see that issue, but I saw a blip or two where it looked like the Smart WiFi app may have put the AHD's WiFi to sleep causing it to flip back to carrier data... Between that and the fact that I saw little value to the app, I disabled it.
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I disabled that crap. Dumb app....
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I use smart WiFi, but it's not in my list of apps using data. In that same list, you can disable background data if you have a data limit set. I've disabled background data for every app in the list, and it's made a HUGE difference in my data usage. Only used 114 mb this month, and the billing cycle ends in 2 days...
Deep rooted in the mAtrix HD...
http://android-gz.com
I had to disable it also, it was disabling my wifi leading to crazy data usage.
+1 , Smart Wifi was acting like a Smart Ass , i deleted it too .

Data Usage Inaccurate and Uploading Data When Not?

For the past several months I've noticed this but now I want an answer or solution.
My phone is rooted and I have GravityBox installed so I can use the network traffic monitor tweak, among other things. Something I've noticed is that after a reboot, and I guess periodically throughout the day, I'll have a strange upload happening for up to about 2 minutes.
I've checked the data usage for both cellular and WiFi and I've found that neither of them are accurate to the usage listed for the apps. For cellular it is saying that I've used 1.2GB over the course of the pay period. I've checked with my network and my phone has only actually used 280MB so far into the pay period, which closely lines up with my calculated 290MB after adding up all the app usages. The same is also true for WiFi data usage as well, I'm not as concerned as I have no cap, but it says that I've used 12GB however adding up the individual apps only comes out to 3GB. So this would imply nothing is actually being uploaded.
I thought maybe it is an app or process hitting a local socket on loopback for one reason or another, but I just checked with using ping to send large 32kB packets 100 times a second to the loopback and no change in the network traffic monitor at all.
So something is being uploaded after all, or maybe ping's traffic isn't included? The upload rate might clue something in, as it is always 10-15MB/s, which is higher than my broadband upload speed. I don't know, I'd just like my data usage to be accurate so I don't have to worry about using it up for the month.
Anyone else experience the same thing?
Goggle Play Services and Android Services are constantly pinging, uploading whatever.
A minimum of 2/1 to up to 4/2 or more a minute at idle. That's with Google Transport, Framework, all cloud and social messaging disabled or removed. I started using Karma Firewall, blocking the former to reduce battery consumption... it worked.
I'm using a stock load so that's as deep as I can easily peer into the Android mess.
I also block numerous Samsung, other 3red party apps as well as Playstore. I temporarily lift the package and/or firewall block as needed. Near zero usability issues, a great reduction of wasted bandwidth and aminimum 1-3% increase of battery life.
Google Firebase is yet another worthless hog along with all Google, Samsung, App and carrier feedback... gone.
The typical Android is a hornet's nest of unwanted internet activity and an orgy of user data leaks.
Google is the biggest offender of all; a scope storage wolf in sheep's clothing.
Unacceptable.
Namelesswonder said:
For the past several months I've noticed this but now I want an answer or solution.
My phone is rooted and I have GravityBox installed so I can use the network traffic monitor tweak, among other things. Something I've noticed is that after a reboot, and I guess periodically throughout the day, I'll have a strange upload happening for up to about 2 minutes.
I've checked the data usage for both cellular and WiFi and I've found that neither of them are accurate to the usage listed for the apps. For cellular it is saying that I've used 1.2GB over the course of the pay period. I've checked with my network and my phone has only actually used 280MB so far into the pay period, which closely lines up with my calculated 290MB after adding up all the app usages. The same is also true for WiFi data usage as well, I'm not as concerned as I have no cap, but it says that I've used 12GB however adding up the individual apps only comes out to 3GB. So this would imply nothing is actually being uploaded.
I thought maybe it is an app or process hitting a local socket on loopback for one reason or another, but I just checked with using ping to send large 32kB packets 100 times a second to the loopback and no change in the network traffic monitor at all.
So something is being uploaded after all, or maybe ping's traffic isn't included? The upload rate might clue something in, as it is always 10-15MB/s, which is higher than my broadband upload speed. I don't know, I'd just like my data usage to be accurate so I don't have to worry about using it up for the month.
Anyone else experience the same thing?
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I'm actually experiencing this for the past few days, have you found a solution yet? I literally tried everything. From clean flashing my rom, trying different kernels, firmwares etc. I checked my data usage its registering via phone settings, but not on my broadband settings. I'm having 5-8mbps uploads every 4-8 mins (it varies).

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