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New Nook nicer screen!

I returned my Nook and got a new one and was amazed at how much better the screen is. Mine had a slight bleed at the bottom I wasn't sure if that was all of them or not.
Anyways aside from the bleed gone, the screen is much more vibrant and clear. Just an fyi if anyone has a weird screen don't settle!

Cool, mine has a dead pixel that appeared only 2 days after I purchased it - I've been debating whether or not it's worth the time to reflash back to stock, etc... etc... and exchange it. I think I will.

My first nook had white splotches on the screen. I took it back to the store and the guy wouldn't exchange it. As soon as I told him I wanted my money back he changed his mind and gave me another one. He was a ****.
Then, after a week, the nook started creaking and squeaking all around the bezel. I called to get it exchanged. They said I had to go into the store. I went into the store. They said I had to do it online or on the phone. I called on the phone and argued with some lady for 30 minutes after which she told me that if I sent my current nook back and they didn't think anything was wrong with it, they'd charge me $250. I hung up and called right back and got a woman who was ok and told me the other lady was an idiot. Thanks guys.
I received my third nook in the mail. The A/C charger jack was broken. I couldn't put the jack in. So i called to get this replaced and argued with some guys in India for an hour and finally got a replacement.
I'm on my 4th nook. Barnes and Noble sucks and I will never buy another electronic device from them again.

Yeah I was not impressed with their phone support either. All these companies not only outsourcing to India but only allowing the support person to use scripted conversation is even worse.
I called to deregister a device since I forgot to deregister before returning a NC and the lady was an idiot reading from a script she didn't even understand.
Roku is another horrible company for India scripted phone support.
Unfortunaley India gets beat up a lot by Americans for this when it might not be so bad if the scripts were taken away and they just hired smarter people.

I got mine at best buy, and getting it replaced for the phantom ghost tap issue was easy as pie. The new one works great. The girl at the counter was kinda cute too, so it was like win-win!

indagroove said:
I got mine at best buy, and getting it replaced for the phantom ghost tap issue was easy as pie. The new one works great. The girl at the counter was kinda cute too, so it was like win-win!
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is the return policy at best buy 14 days too?

wpbear said:
Yeah I was not impressed with their phone support either. All these companies not only outsourcing to India but only allowing the support person to use scripted conversation is even worse.
I called to deregister a device since I forgot to deregister before returning a NC and the lady was an idiot reading from a script she didn't even understand.
Roku is another horrible company for India scripted phone support.
Unfortunaley India gets beat up a lot by Americans for this when it might not be so bad if the scripts were taken away and they just hired smarter people.
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When I called BN phone support, they were not in India.

t3rabyte said:
tldr..
I'm on my 4th nook. Barnes and Noble sucks and I will never buy another electronic device from them again.
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My wife and I both got a NC, same store, about a month apart. Both of ours work perfectly.
Don't assume because you had 2 problematic NC's doesn't mean everyone has, or that overall quality is bad. (Yes, I said 2.)

The only issue with my screen is some binding/pinching where the bezel meets the LCD which causes slight bright spots at the bottom edge. I've seen this same issue with lower quality LCD monitors. Otherwise pleased with screen quality. Having worked in electronics manufacturing, I came to learn how variable quality control can be with some manufacturers.

Best Buy has one month reuturns but after that your screwed unless u buy insurance. my 1st NC ate an 8 gig microUSB and started bleeding by the vol. B&N took sent another straight away with postage paid for the return. NO PROB and they do have a vibrant screen from all angles.
a case would keep your nook safe from most screen probs, and be shure to line up your mcards.

EverythingNook said:
is the return policy at best buy 14 days too?
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Technically yes, but they will help with warrenty issues after that date to some degree as well.
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Best Buy has one month reuturns but after that your screwed unless u buy insurance.
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I did buy the insurance, but didn't have to use it even though it was something like 45 days or more after I bought it. I brought it in planning to use the insurance (which is a one time shot apparently), but she told me they could just do it as a warranty exchange since it was so new. I'm not really sure how long they extend it for, but I was happy.

khaytsus said:
tldr...
Don't assume because you had 2 problematic NC's doesn't mean everyone has, or that overall quality is bad. (Yes, I said 2.)
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Wow, yeah, my post was just soooo long.
If you read it, it said I had three bad nooks (Yes, I said 3). I never said everyone has bad ones. I said I won't buy from them again because their support sucks and their products are defective.
Maybe next time you comment on a post, read it first.

My first NC was defective. It had a bad accelerometer and/or a bad power button. Essentially, if you set it down occasionally it would act as if you pressed and held the power button and then tapped OK to shut down the tablet.
Here's a vid I took of it to convince the BN store staff I wasn't going nuts:
YOUTUBE DOT COM/watch?v=Zfit4oG4WaA
I'd bought the extended warranty but this happened within the first week of ownership. I talked to the manager of the store where I bought it and she swapped it for a new one and applied the warranty to NC #2. I'd heard the phone support was horrible, so made it a point to buy it locally. I'm glad I did.
I'm loving my new one. I'm going to Hawaii in a week and, for the first time in my life, will be travelling without a laptop. All I'm taking is my NC and a BT keyboard for it.

Are you sure you had a problem? Because khaytsus bought one for himself and his wife and didn't have any issues LOL
Wow, good thing the store owner was helpful. The guy on staff at my local BN refused to do anything and said all returns or exchanges definitely needed to go through the website.
I'm still not happy with my current Nook. The panel below the "N" button is depressed on both sides. But I'm sticking with it for now.

Backlight bleeding is pretty much the norm for any LCD screen. I've seen it on desktop monitors, TVs, laptops, tablets...etc. It will exist on even on the top of the line models and "best" brands.
If you just have only some slight backlight bleeding, I would discourage you from trying to exchange it. You're likely to get something worse like dead pixels.

I spent half an hour one the support line a second ago because my USB cable fried. The lady tried to have me enter my credit card number for some reason so I could buy "NOOKBooks". I argued with her for about 5 minutes and then she told me all I need to enter is my shipping address. She said that they would mail the replacement cable free of charge in 24 to 48 hours.
I didn't spend anytime on hold even though the automated message said that they are flooded with tech support calls.

wpbear said:
it might not be so bad if the scripts were taken away and they just hired smarter people.
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Smarter people ask for a lot of money (if they are paying more money then whats the point of outsourcing) even in India only those who can't really find another job for themselves take up job's in call center's.

well I just returned my nook with a transformer incoming... i sure hope it has as good of a screen or ill prob end up another nook. lol

2nd Nexus returned....refund time.

I'm sorry to say my second Nexus 7 despite initially looking good has now popped the left side of its glass and displayed a stuck green sub-pixel. I'm really disappointed as I think its a fantastic device apart from the poor QC. I may try and buy later if I see on this forum that ASUS have got there act together.
Good luck to all who are trying to get a decent unit.

Poor QC, overinflated expectations for a entry level device, or a newly registered shill poster.

I replaced mine through the play store and its perfect. Maybe I just got lucky.
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CrazyPeter said:
Poor QC, overinflated expectations for a entry level device, or a newly registered shill poster.
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LOL! I dont think expecting the glass to be stuck to the body of the device is an 'inflated expectation'? regardless of price point. Tosser :laugh:

Yeah I'm pretty sure the front is not supposed to fall off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
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He is right. My first nexus had screen lift. My second had a faulty LCD and my third has screen lift again.
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Same here, my second replacement is good, glad i did it instead of putting up with a creaky raised screen
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haloimplant said:
Yeah I'm pretty sure the front is not supposed to fall off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
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Some of them are built so the front doesn't fall off at all... just some aren't prepped quite as safe as some of the others

Here is a thought... A crazy one I know but here you go....
Instead of constantly replacing a newly released device because of minor screen lift that does not effect normal use how about taking a chill pill, breathing in and out and relaxing?
Mine has screen lift and it still works great! Me? I will wait a few months and replace it once the flaw is fixed in manufacturing and there has been enough time to filter out all the flawed still in stock versions...

When I picked up my first one and it had screen lift, I was disappointed and angry. When I exchanged for a second one and it had screen lift and a non-functioning touch screen, I was just angry. When I picked up my third one with screen lift I just shrugged. Yesterday I picked up my fourth one with screen lift and a loudly popping speaker and I just laughed :silly:

There must be bad lots or something?
On my first unit I bought at staples and everyone I know local has no issues and no replacements. I have been and will keep looking for issues on them but so far so good.

raqball said:
Here is a thought... A crazy one I know but here you go....
Instead of constantly replacing a newly released device because of minor screen lift that does not effect normal use how about taking a chill pill, breathing in and out and relaxing?
Mine has screen lift and it still works great! Me? I will wait a few months and replace it once the flaw is fixed in manufacturing and there has been enough time to filter out all the flawed still in stock versions...
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Yeah, what is up with people, expecting a product without defects? That is just weird.
Hopefully those people get filtered out of the gene pool and we can live in a peaceful future were defects are accepted as normal.

Ravynmagi said:
Yeah, what is up with people, expecting a product without defects? That is just weird.
Hopefully those people get filtered out of the gene pool and we can live in a peaceful future were defects are accepted as normal.
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Learn to read....
I said nothing about a defect being acceptable..
You may now remove foot from mouth...

raqball said:
Here is a thought... A crazy one I know but here you go....
Instead of constantly replacing a newly released device because of minor screen lift that does not effect normal use how about taking a chill pill, breathing in and out and relaxing?
Mine has screen lift and it still works great! Me? I will wait a few months and replace it once the flaw is fixed in manufacturing and there has been enough time to filter out all the flawed still in stock versions...
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I'll bet that what actually happens is you'll send yours in, and you'll receive a refurb with EXACTLY the same problem. But you're so Zen-like about the whole thing, you'll just smile and go through the process over and over and never lose your cool. I envy your calm.
Of course, you'll have to hope the defect is obvious immediately, because every time you connect a new device to your Google account (and granted, one should put a hard limit on how many defects one accepts before considering the product to be junk) you'll use up a Google Music activation. And we can only deactivate 10 devices in a year. A big deal? Maybe, if you go through freaking defective products like this trying to get one that works decently.
Oh, and that will be another device that shows up in your list in Google Play that you can't delete. You'll remove it from the menu, but it'll be sitting there, taunting you.
Oh, and maybe you open an ebook on the defective that's limited to 3 devices, and then you can't open the book on your new one. And maybe the "remove from device" option isn't there, so you have to go through Google to get things fixed. But hey, relax, right?
If you're happy to sit on a defective device for months with the hope that it'll be better fixed later, knock yourself out. For some of us, the Nexus 7 is a special device, being the only Nexus tablet, and we just want one without defects. This whole preachy routine really does get a bit old.

raqball said:
Here is a thought... A crazy one I know but here you go....
Instead of constantly replacing a newly released device because of minor screen lift that does not effect normal use how about taking a chill pill, breathing in and out and relaxing?
Mine has screen lift and it still works great! Me? I will wait a few months and replace it once the flaw is fixed in manufacturing and there has been enough time to filter out all the flawed still in stock versions...
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Here is a rational thought.
How about a device should not have a so called minor screen lift issue. That moves around when you touch you the screen. That when you pick up the device and hold it the damn thing feels like it is falling apart and about to simply break.
Only a fool would accept that and keep the device. It doesn't affect normal use? What are you smoking? A touch screen device with a defective screen doesn't effect normal use? So you're going to keep a bad crappy device for a couple of months because hell I don't know why. So everybody else should keep their as well.
These devices currently have a ton of QC issues. Fact. People will report and discuss them. The only trolls are the people that keep saying people reporting issues etc must be trolling.

wynand32 said:
I'll bet that what actually happens is you'll send yours in, and you'll receive a refurb with EXACTLY the same problem. But you're so Zen-like about the whole thing, you'll just smile and go through the process over and over and never lose your cool. I envy your calm.
Of course, you'll have to hope the defect is obvious immediately, because every time you connect a new device to your Google account (and granted, one should put a hard limit on how many defects one accepts before considering the product to be junk) you'll use up a Google Music activation. And we can only deactivate 10 devices in a year. A big deal? Maybe, if you go through freaking defective products like this trying to get one that works decently.
Oh, and that will be another device that shows up in your list in Google Play that you can't delete. You'll remove it from the menu, but it'll be sitting there, taunting you.
Oh, and maybe you open an ebook on the defective that's limited to 3 devices, and then you can't open the book on your new one. And maybe the "remove from device" option isn't there, so you have to go through Google to get things fixed. But hey, relax, right?
If you're happy to sit on a defective device for months with the hope that it'll be better fixed later, knock yourself out. For some of us, the Nexus 7 is a special device, being the only Nexus tablet, and we just want one without defects. This whole preachy routine really does get a bit old.
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Guess how many devices I have linked to my account? lol
Seven GNex phones and two N7s. I've returned 4 N7s but one of them had a broken touch screen so I couldn't actually set it up and on the other the screen lift was so bad that I didn't bother powering it up. Crazy stuff. I honestly don't know why I keep coming back to the Nexus brand after my recent experiences.

Here's an actual rational though.
Only a fool would fail to read and call someone out for something opposite of what they said.
CHILL OUT, COUNT TO 10 before you make yourself look like an idiot again. He never suggested you accept a flaw, he said that repeatedly doing the same thing and expecting a different result is not the best idea. Obviously you want the device, but instead of complaining about it here, which will do absolutely freaking nothing, why not take a breath and waiting a week? Rapid fire returns sure haven't worked for you yet.

Yawn....
Every device has growing pains the the N7 is no different... Google botched the pre-orders and they have a manufacturing issue to correct...
I will TRY and make this simple...
Let say Google had 10 million produced before they correct the manufacturing process / defect.. Now lets say they sold 5 million... That leaves 5 million defective units still on shelves / in stock...
You can continue to exchange it until the cows come home and guess what? Your replacement is going to come from the defective (read: in stock) pile until the defect is corrected and the originally shipped (read: defective) units have been depleted...
Save yourself the headache, stress, tantrums and wait a few months for the issue to be resolved and the fixed units to become the in stock norm...
If the unit has an issue that prevents it from functioning then that's another matter... Slight screen raise is not one of those... Keep on replacing it and keep getting the same (read: originally manufactured defect) unit in the mail... It's your headache not mine and I'm not the one throwing a tantrum in an online forum..
I will wait a few months and exchange mine once Google has resolved the issue and the in stock tablets are that of the fixed variety...
My .02

Solange82200 said:
Same here, my second replacement is good, glad i did it instead of putting up with a creaky raised screen
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Same for me. I contemplated not returning it to Office Depot but I ran by there at lunch and swapped for this one which appears good so far.
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raqball said:
Learn to read....
I said nothing about a defect being acceptable..
You may now remove foot from mouth...
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You said you are fine with screen lift. Screen lift is a defect.

Replacement nexus 4 lost or stolen......or so I thought.

So my replacement nexus 4 was suppose to be delivered on Monday. Around noon monday, I check the tracking which said it had been delivered...except I was home all morning and no package was delivered. I waited a few hours, figuring it was some kind of mistake with the tracking.
Then, I called UPS and they confirmed that it had been delivered at the stated time. I immediately called google and explained the situation. They were very understanding and started the process of disabling the lost device and issuing me a new one.
However, later that evening, my neighbour rang the bell and had the package in his hand....he had just come back from work and found it sitting at his front door (arghhh UPS ). At this point I hadn't yet received the e-mail from google with the link to order another replacement, so I figured I would call them to let them know that I had found the device. The rep told me that she would send the request to the department that handles lost/stolen device, but it was most likely already too late. She said she would keep me posted on the situation by e-mail.
Today, I still haven't received the e-mail with the link to order the new replacement, and the device is working fine (I assume if they disable it, it would lock me out or something). So I e-mailed the aforementioned rep and explained this to her. She e-mailed back saying that they had already disabled the device and given me a full refund, and that I would have to reorder the device...wtf On top of that she made no mention of returning this device (But I did go ahead and mail back the original phone today).
The phone is still working fine and my credit card doesn't show any refund (though this may be due to the fact that they haven't yet processed the refund....just my guess). Oh and still no e-mail to order the replacement, but I'm assuming since they are apparently issuing a refund, they expect me to place a whole new order?
What do you guys think? Is this just a big miscommunication between the various departments at google? Did they indeed stop the disabling of the device (which would explain why the device is still working)? But then why would the rep tell me I need to reorder the device. Man, this is just a big mess......and the funny part is, this device has the same earpiece buzzing problem for which I did the RMA lol.
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All the nexuses have buzzing earpieces. Its a feature
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jaju123 said:
All the nexuses have buzzing earpieces. Its a feature
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Only the first ones, all the new batches are fine...

CrazyPeter said:
Only the first ones, all the new batches are fine...
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New batches = ordered on or after 27th?

now what does that mean disabling a device.... it aint usable... ?

CrazyPeter said:
Only the first ones, all the new batches are fine...
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Are you saying newer ones don't give that hissing sound when idling (not in call)?
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Only the first ones, all the new batches are fine...
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Mine is from the Nov 13th batch of orders no buzzing in my ear piece. My neighbor ordered on the 7th and received it on Monday and it has a buzzing earpiece so I don't think that it has anything to do with what batch it came from.
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now what does that mean disabling a device.... it aint usable... ?
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They said once they remote disable the device it will basically become a paperweight. I have no idea of exactly what they do. Can anyone shed some light on this? BTW phone still works.

Why would anyone hold up their phones to their ears when it is not on or even on a phone call??!
is this like the "if I shake my phone real hard, I can hear something rattling inside" complaint?

I can't believe you mailed the phone back before even receiving the e-mail with the link to get the next RMA unit. If I were you I would have kept the phone until it either stopped working or you placed the next RMA order and had the next replacement in hand.
Now who knows when you will get your hands on another N4. Looks like you are in a whole new limbo period.

zealtor said:
They said once they remote disable the device it will basically become a paperweight. I have no idea of exactly what they do. Can anyone shed some light on this? BTW phone still works.
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I think what they do is void the ESN on the device rendering it unusable as a carrier cannot activate a bad ESN.

facetubespam said:
Why would anyone hold up their phones to their ears when it is not on or even on a phone call??!
is this like the "if I shake my phone real hard, I can hear something rattling inside" complaint?
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I can clearly hear the buzzing while on a call on both the original and the replacement phone, and it's really annoying. Obviously if I could not hear it in a call, it would be a non-issue.
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I can't believe you mailed the phone back before even receiving the e-mail with the link to get the next RMA unit. If I were you I would have kept the phone until it either stopped working or you placed the next RMA order and had the next replacement in hand.
Now who knows when you will get your hands on another N4. Looks like you are in a whole new limbo period.
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I mailed back the original phone that I ordered on Nov 13, not the replacement. The rep said that I had to mail back the original right away to avoid being charged for it. Like I said, the replacement phone is working fine (except for the buzz lol) and so far as I can tell, they have not "disabled" the device in any way yet. Even if they do, I have a perfectly fine HTC one S sitting here that I have no problem using.

Sucks man, sorry. I would've tried to keep that thing as long as I could. As far as the buzzing, seems like all these devices have a shielding or grounding issue which is causing the noise in the ear piece. My first phone which I got from TMobile (I love 30 day return policy ) had a pretty bad electrical/modem sound that was actually very distracting while in a call. The new device which I just received yesterday from El Goog doesn't have this defect, but does have the sound of an active earpiece at all times. Hardly an issue. The previous device sounded really bad over VOIP and calls never sounded as good as with the new one. Best to be patient and satisfied rather than hasty and regretful
Good luck man!!
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So I just got an e-mail from another rep saying that they were able to stop the deactivation of the device. lol. No wonder why the phone has been working all along. I think I'm just going to sell the phone since I don't want to go through this whole RMA process again, and it does seem like this buzzing happens on all nexus 4s. I'll probably order one again once these issues have been worked out. In the mean time, I think I can get by just fine with the HTC one s that I picked up brand new for $100 last week

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So I just got an e-mail from another rep saying that they were able to stop the deactivation of the device. lol. No wonder why the phone has been working all along. I think I'm just going to sell the phone since I don't want to go through this whole RMA process again, and it does seem like this buzzing happens on all nexus 4s. I'll probably order one again once these issues have been worked out. In the mean time, I think I can get by just fine with the HTC one s that I picked up brand new for $100 last week
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from themobileshop? lol

No earpiece buzzing on my N4

zealtor said:
So I just got an e-mail from another rep saying that they were able to stop the deactivation of the device. lol. No wonder why the phone has been working all along. I think I'm just going to sell the phone since I don't want to go through this whole RMA process again, and it does seem like this buzzing happens on all nexus 4s. I'll probably order one again once these issues have been worked out. In the mean time, I think I can get by just fine with the HTC one s that I picked up brand new for $100 last week
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Brand new One S for $100? Off-contract?
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jacklebott said:
No earpiece buzzing on my N4
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Same here so its not on all N4's
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supersain08 said:
from themobileshop? lol
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haha yeah, I was able to find two of them, one for me and one for my brother, just before the whole GTA pretty much went out of stock lol.
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Brand new One S for $100? Off-contract?
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yes, it was a canadian deal. see here

Just FYI also, I have had no buzzing whatsoever. So it seems new batches may not suffer from this?

Nexus 4 RMA screw up

I ordered 2x16GB Nexus 4s on the 27th. I received them on the 7th, but both have overheating issues (overheats and turns off with about 30 minutes of Temple Run gaming).
I placed RMA requests for both Nexus 4s, yet to receive them though.
Now I seem to have lost/misplaced both the Nexus 4s.
What will happen next? I understand that I will get charged for the replacement phones, but won't be refunded since I cannot mail back my current defective devices. But my question is, will the defective devices still be remotely disabled, or if I do find them at some point, can I still use them?

You called to return 2 phones because they shutdown from playing Templerun? Then you lost both phones before returning?
My guess is they will just keep the repay hold on the RMA if you don't return the phones. They charged you? Right?
I guess they will disable them if you report them stolen or lost..
Dude, no offense but returning a phone because it has issues with one game seems extreme.. Also.. How could you misplace 2 brand new phones? I do not understand at all..
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you cant possibly 'misplace' 2 brand new phones...
trying to rip off google?

Richieboy67 said:
You called to return 2 phones because they shutdown from playing Templerun? Then you lost both phones before returning?
My guess is they will just keep the repay hold on the RMA if you don't return the phones. They charged you? Right?
I guess they will disable them if you report them stolen or lost..
Dude, no offense but returning a phone because it has issues with one game seems extreme.. Also.. How could you misplace 2 brand new phones? I do not understand at all..
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Yes, that is correct. They get pretty hot, much hotter than my GS2, but that would be fine as long as it doesn't shut down and stuff. Maybe I just got a bad batch. Screen gets yellowish after a while too.
I haven't been charged yet. Maybe they'll charge me when they ship out the replacement devices?
Might sound totally silly but I put them back in their boxes after requesting them to be RMA'd. I can't find the boxes now. Must be in my house somewhere, but I've looked every place possible but I can't find them..

I'm with these guys. My N4 was barely out of my hand for the first week after I got it, how could you lose 2?!!!
Also, did the overheating problem present itself when playing other games or doing anything demanding? It sounds like the game might have just needed an update or reinstall. I don't think Google will do anything remotely to those devices unless you actually ask them to.
I'd start turning the house upside down to find them phones though, RMA requests don't last long.

AndroidFanboy7 said:
Might sound totally silly but I put them back in their boxes after requesting them to be RMA'd. I can't find the boxes now. Must be in my house somewhere, but I've looked every place possible but I can't find them..
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Help me, I don't remember in which one of my 48 bedrooms I left my Nexus 4s in!

AndroidFanboy7 said:
Might sound totally silly but I put them back in their boxes after requesting them to be RMA'd. I can't find the boxes now. Must be in my house somewhere, but I've looked every place possible but I can't find them..
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Doesn't sound silly so much as it sounds like you were trying to get more phones without having to wait for a normal purchase. My only real question is whether you still have them or if you sold them?

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Handtec Returns? - magnetic charging "module" pulled out of phone

Hi all,
I imported a Z3 Compact from Handtec and received around 10/3 or so - so about 3 weeks ago. I noticed over the weekend that the magnetic charger wasn't charging my phone, and then after looking at it and playing with it a little bit, the magnetic charger was lifting a the charging section "module" out of the phone... and then it came out entirely. Looks like it's just glued in. I looked around and it looks like this is a semi-rare issue (as I had to look on z2 forums etc) and so probably a manufacturing thing. I contacted Handtec and they accepted a return, but with return type "repair". At this point I'd rather get a refund and order from Sony USA if I still intend to keep this phone. I saw the one page on returns on their website and it's pretty vague and mentions 14 days, but then after some googling I came across their terms and conditions that state that i have 30 days to return for a refund - can anyone with experience here confirm what's real here? I want to push the issue if I'm within my rights.
Thanks.
edit: i think i'm wrong - it looks like it's just 14 days. i guess i'll post a response if anything else changes here.

mohlsen8 said:
Hi all,
I imported a Z3 Compact from Handtec and received around 10/3 or so - so about 3 weeks ago. I noticed over the weekend that the magnetic charger wasn't charging my phone, and then after looking at it and playing with it a little bit, the magnetic charger was lifting a the charging section "module" out of the phone... and then it came out entirely. Looks like it's just glued in. I looked around and it looks like this is a semi-rare issue (as I had to look on z2 forums etc) and so probably a manufacturing thing. I contacted Handtec and they accepted a return, but with return type "repair". At this point I'd rather get a refund and order from Sony USA if I still intend to keep this phone. I saw the one page on returns on their website and it's pretty vague and mentions 14 days, but then after some googling I came across their terms and conditions that state that i have 30 days to return for a refund - can anyone with experience here confirm what's real here? I want to push the issue if I"m within my rights.
Thanks.
edit: i think i'm wrong - it looks like it's just 14 days. i guess i'll post a response if anything else changes here.
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Sucks and is weird. Keep us posted. Contact Sony U.S. too and see if they will help....
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phositadc said:
Sucks and is weird. Keep us posted. Contact Sony U.S. too and see if they will help....
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I'm glad you mentioned trying Sony USA. Based on what I read, I thought they were just telling people who imported to go take a hike, so I wasn't even going to go there, but I just got off the phone with them and they gave me no issue whatsoever giving me an RMA. 14 business day turnaround time.. average time.. but whatever. It's better all around than dealing with shipping back to Handtec and having them ship to Sony.

mohlsen8 said:
I'm glad you mentioned trying Sony USA. Based on what I read, I thought they were just telling people who imported to go take a hike, so I wasn't even going to go there, but I just got off the phone with them and they gave me no issue whatsoever giving me an RMA. 14 business day turnaround time.. average time.. but whatever. It's better all around than dealing with shipping back to Handtec and having them ship to Sony.
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Awesome good to know. I've seen 3 reports (including you) if people trying to get support from Sony U.S.A., and now 2 were successful.
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phositadc said:
Awesome good to know. I've seen 3 reports (including you) if people trying to get support from Sony U.S.A., and now 2 were successful.
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I never received my RMA info from Sony so I had to go into another chat with a rep. This one was a little more interested in location information. Sounds like everything is ok still but he added the below. Got the RMA email while on the phone with him.
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Me: Ok. Then everything is set and I just follow those instructions? I think I just received the email
Agent: Yes, that is correct sir, don't you worry, but I need to clarify that since your phone is from UK, the service center does not have a time frame to return it back from repair becuase they could be requesting parts to the original market that the phone was made for
Me: Ok. Would it be much longer than a usual time frame?
Agent: Yes, that is correct, the regular time frame would be 14 business days but in this case it will be longer than that, we cannot specify how long
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in case anyone cares, sony received phone on 10/30, logged it 10/31 (this is their "received" date), and shipped it back out to me on 11/04. looks pretty good now, so we'll see. there was zero communication throughout this. it would've been nice to know they received the phone, and also that they shipped it back - it sat with UPS for 2 extra days because they couldn't deliver and i didn't see the door tag. so i'd recommend anyone in my situation to follow-up with them frequently.

mohlsen8 said:
in case anyone cares, sony received phone on 10/30, logged it 10/31 (this is their "received" date), and shipped it back out to me on 11/04. looks pretty good now, so we'll see. there was zero communication throughout this. it would've been nice to know they received the phone, and also that they shipped it back - it sat with UPS for 2 extra days because they couldn't deliver and i didn't see the door tag. so i'd recommend anyone in my situation to follow-up with them frequently.
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And the waiting continues. I sent it in with a SIM tray, and it was returned without one, making it unusable as a phone. Had to contact them, setup another RMA, was given another 14 business day turnaround time, all for them to send me the little black piece of plastic they removed when I sent my phone to them. This is all unbelievable. I've owned the phone for all of 4-5 weeks.

Either use Twitter or carpet bomb them via email
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mohlsen8 said:
And the waiting continues. I sent it in with a SIM tray, and it was returned without one, making it unusable as a phone. Had to contact them, setup another RMA, was given another 14 business day turnaround time, all for them to send me the little black piece of plastic they removed when I sent my phone to them. This is all unbelievable. I've owned the phone for all of 4-5 weeks.
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still ongoing. they stopped responding to my emails for the last 3 or 4 days. finally i got into a chat with them and really gave them an earful about how this should've been a simple, quick thing. the guy followed up with me after the chat and let me know that he received a tracking number that shows it was delivered already the night before. again, no communication there.
then i get the package, open it up and it's a Micro SIM tray.... not Nano SIM. you think they would know this. now I'm back to waiting for them to respond to me. this is a f*cking sh*tshow at this point.

mohlsen8 said:
still ongoing. they stopped responding to my emails for the last 3 or 4 days. finally i got into a chat with them and really gave them an earful about how this should've been a simple, quick thing. the guy followed up with me after the chat and let me know that he received a tracking number that shows it was delivered already the night before. again, no communication there.
then i get the package, open it up and it's a Micro SIM tray.... not Nano SIM. you think they would know this. now I'm back to waiting for them to respond to me. this is a f*cking sh*tshow at this point.
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Oh my god, are you ****ing kidding?
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tudork said:
Oh my god, are you ****ing kidding?
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Nope. Figured I'd check in and update this again. It's been 43 days since I sent my phone in. About 30-35 days of looking at it as a paperweight on my desk. I spent a few weeks emailing and calling a few times a day. I was promised that a manager would call me back multiple times, but no one ever did. One day in the last week of November, I called at 9am, was promised a manager would call me back. No one did. Called at 2pm, the person on the phone set up a time for a manger to call me back - at 3. No one called. Called back at 4pm, and had someone say they were personally taking ownership of my case and convince me that they were going to do everything they could to help me, even gave me their name. Not like it helped when I emailed or called after that. I've been tweeting to Sony Support and Sony Xperia and they took my info but that was it really. Late last week a guy named Josh from Consumer Relations called me and said he was following up on a phone survey I took after one of my calls.. basically where I trashed Sony and their customer service and begged someone to call me. He told me he was having a SIM Tray overnighted to me. And he did... and actually, there were two UPS packages sent again (first time there were two of the same sent as well for some weird reason). Awesome... until I opened the packages and found Micro SIM Trays again. Even explaining this to him and how I needed Nano didn't get me anywhere. I don't have a direct number to this guy, the only number connects to a voicemail system where you leave a message, but anyway I called from the UPS parking lot and left a message and haven't heard from him yet. That was yesterday morning. I've received 4 Micro SIM Trays and have been blown off and ignored for going on 2 months soon. Now I guess I'm doing what I should've done a month ago - buy from China on Ebay.
F*ck you Sony. You f*cking suck, hard. And lost a customer. I hope my post helps someone else not deal with this complete bullsh*t. It gets tossed around a lot, but seriously, this is by far the worst customer service I've ever experienced. By far.

mohlsen8 said:
F*ck you Sony. You f*cking suck, hard. And lost a customer. I hope my post helps someone else not deal with this complete bullsh*t. It gets tossed around a lot, but seriously, this is by far the worst customer service I've ever experienced. By far.
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You should post your experience with Sony to their facebook pages.

Peeveli said:
You should post your experience with Sony to their facebook pages.
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Maybe, as yet another last ditch effort. They don't allow wall posts to be public, so who knows if they read them at all.
Edit: Yes, they are public. Nice. G+ is a nice public place too.

does anyone know of any sony email addresses i could use? i looked around, but they do as good a job hiding that stuff as they have for customer service for me. i sent a detailed account of my experience to [email protected] as well as posting on Sony Xperia's facebook page. i wish i had more email addresses to bombard.

Just keep it up, you will soon be able to open up a store selling micro sim trays. This is freaking unbelievable.
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Wow, I am actually having the EXACT same problem.
Also preordered from Handtec, and was using a Magector adaptor from Amazon, and noticed that it stopped working some nights and that it was coming out.
I am so happy that Sony USA helped you, I was worried I was out of luck unless I was willing to send it back to the UK.
Gonna call them today and see if I can get mine fixed too!
Do you know if they sent you a different phone back or the same one?
Edit: Didn't see all the problems you were having with the sim car tray though.
Going to keep it when I send it back...

Alex2x3 said:
Wow, I am actually having the EXACT same problem.
Also preordered from Handtec, and was using a Magector adaptor from Amazon, and noticed that it stopped working some nights and that it was coming out.
I am so happy that Sony USA helped you, I was worried I was out of luck unless I was willing to send it back to the UK.
Gonna call them today and see if I can get mine fixed too!
Do you know if they sent you a different phone back or the same one?
Edit: Didn't see all the problems you were having with the sim car tray though.
Going to keep it when I send it back...
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Yeah I had the same problem - the magnector adapter on amazon pulled the charging port out of my phone after 3 weeks of use. Definitely keep your SIM Tray!
My issue is actually resolved now as of today, 45 days into this mess. The Consumer Relations guy Josh eventually called me back around 3:30pm yesterday and said he was out of the office until then, and that he was going to call the service center because it seemed like they had a part number wrong - he was looking it up while on the phone with me and they had the part listed for all of the z models. Who knows if that's real because when he called back with the tracking number for a new overnight delivery, I could see the info had been sent to Fedex at 11:49am. So who knows. Especially because yesterday morning I typed up a huge detailed account of every interaction I've had with Sony since October and posted it on Facebook, G+, their consumer relations site, and the one email I found.
Anyway, I got the correct SIM tray this morning, so I'm just glad this is finally resolved. If it weren't for the SIM tray sh*tshow, I would've said this was great customer service. Phone was back in my hands in like a week and a half. And even after that, they sent me that first Micro SIM tray in like 4 or 5 days. But after that they were completely incompetent. F*ck you Sony.
To answer your questions, yes I got the same phone back. I had a tempered glass screen protector on it and it came back with it... but looks like it got some pretty hard pressure on the one corner because it's noticeably... different. Hard to describe. Like oily, if you press down hard on it you can see the impression.. it has a permanent impression across the triangular corner. Also I took a picture of the About Phone screen/IMEI before sending in to confirm.
In case you or someone else who is reading this could use it, here's all the other means of contacts I found:
[email protected]
-It doesn't look like they respond (or even check? I don't know). A lot of others saying the same thing, even though they're directed to email them at the forum site below.
http://community.sony.com/t5/Customer-Relations/bd-p/customer-relations
-This looks kind of helpful.. they at least have mods who seem to be responding and putting people in touch with people who can help them. Also great for a fun read on just how god awful their customer service really is.
Sony Xperia Customer Relations (866) 737-3366
-This dumps you into a generic voicemail. My guy's name was Josh, so I'd just say this message is for him, etc. This was how I was finally able to get this resolved.

mohlsen8 said:
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Anyway, I got the correct SIM tray this morning, so I'm just glad this is finally resolved. If it weren't for the SIM tray sh*tshow, I would've said this was great customer service. Phone was back in my hands in like a week and a half. And even after that, they sent me that first Micro SIM tray in like 4 or 5 days. But after that they were completely incompetent. F*ck you Sony.
To answer your questions, yes I got the same phone back. I had a tempered glass screen protector on it and it came back with it... but looks like it got some pretty hard pressure on the one corner because it's noticeably... different. Hard to describe. Like oily, if you press down hard on it you can see the impression.. it has a permanent impression across the triangular corner. Also I took a picture of the About Phone screen/IMEI before sending in to confirm.
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God damn, really seems like their customer service is ****ed.
Kinda scaring me from even dealing with them...
Do you think our magnetic ports were defective, as in are you going to keep using the magnetic charger?
I love the feature but don't want to **** up my port every month...
Did you call that number and leave a voice mail from the start, or should I start with their customer service number first?

Alex2x3 said:
God damn, really seems like their customer service is ****ed.
Kinda scaring me from even dealing with them...
Do you think our magnetic ports were defective, as in are you going to keep using the magnetic charger?
I love the feature but don't want to **** up my port every month...
Did you call that number and leave a voice mail from the start, or should I start with their customer service number first?
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i'd probably go through official channels first. they seemed helpful enough when the problem was easy for them to tackle. not sure the people at the number would appreciate a cold call right away either. but hey, F 'em after my experience. that's why i posted it. most everyone I talked to at normal customer service was always nice. they just either lie, have too much on their plate, or both. josh at that number was nice and seemed to be pretty genuine and interested in getting my issue resolved.
i'm going to keep using the magnetic charger. i dunno, this is part of the reason i got the phone. i would've preferred qi, but this is a runner-up for me. no way am i taking off the port covers every day, they'll never last doing that. at least i don't think, never had a phone like this before.
but something to probably keep in mind is that the phone wasn't designed to be use with these third party chargers (so leave that out if sony asks, hah). the only magnetic charging things sony makes are the docks, i believe. there's no pulling and twisting with the magnets that i know i was doing before this happened. heck, i was using my phone here and there while it was charging.. moving it around like that had to put some pressure on it. i just never thought the thing would pop out like it did. i'm going to at least be more careful to not bother it while it's attached now.
good luck & god speed.

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