I start this thread because i am a bit frustrated about the low official support of lg to our optimus black and all the lg devices, so want to discuss with you about something.
I mean, if neither the cyanogenmod team is not yet able to give us a stable cm7 (i know there is a stable version, but we all know that there are still few bugs, i.e video recording), who is to blame? The LG company or maybe the Texas Instrument that doesn't release a proper full code (i.e the multimedia drivers for ics)? how is it possibile that the cyano team can't make the video recording work in a widespread platform like omap3 !?
What i'am trying to say is maybe not all the fault is ascribable to LGE, but maybe the all enviroment around the lg devices development.
What do you think?
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I start this thread because i am a bit frustrated about the low official support of lg to our optimus black and all the lg devices, so want to discuss with you about something.
I mean, if neither the cyanogenmod team is not yet able to give us a stable cm7 (i know there is a stable version, but we all know that there are still few bugs, i.e video recording), who is to blame? The LG company or maybe the Texas Instrument that doesn't release a proper full code (i.e the multimedia drivers for ics)? how is it possibile that the cyano team can't make the video recording work in a widespread platform like omap3 !?
What i'am trying to say is maybe not all the fault is ascribable to LGE, but maybe the all enviroment around the lg devices development.
What do you think?
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No. It is due to LG's relatively small workforce. Look at Samsung's HQ And LG's HQ. Its like world's apart. And, the way LGE builds their products. Lastly, we have a relatively small CM group. So, compared to major companies, EG. HTC & Samsung, we are small.... so, you can expect updates every month or two. As we have low manpower.
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For GB, it was LG's fault.
For ICS, we don't know about what LG has made for now, but TI doesn't help as they haven't finished OMAP3 3.0 Kernel.
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No. It is due to LG's relatively small workforce. Look at Samsung's HQ And LG's HQ. Its like world's apart. And, the way LGE builds their products. Lastly, we have a relatively small CM group. So, compared to major companies, EG. HTC & Samsung, we are small.... so, you can expect updates every month or two. As we have low manpower.
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Cm 10 p970 ?
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Cm 10 p970 ?
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Stop asking that man. TD.
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Hey guy! look this https://twitter.com/LG_Mobile_ (Use Google traductor) they are always talking about ICS for our 2011 devices
They say many things about Optimus 3D and Optimus 2X and only a few things about our Optimus Black :/ hope the better.
They also tell something like the upgrade will be very soon and they tell us when.
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According to the danish lg site, under FAQ of the LG Optimus 2x, they say that it'll be out in june/july 2011. So that seems to be as official they have stated a release date yet
If that's real, than it's a real shame. 6 months to get GB working on their flagship device seems really lame and only shows LG inability to give the updates in a timely manner. In June Android 2.4 will be already launched.
Yeah this sucks ballzzzz
Yeah it seems to be true, but have only been posted (as far as I have checked) on the Scandinavian sites for Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
I also made this post about it (maybe in the wrong section) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034970
EDIT: With a picture btw.
This means Cyanogenmod is again overtaking the manufacturer
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If that's real, than it's a real shame. 6 months to get GB working on their flagship device seems really lame and only shows LG inability to give the updates in a timely manner. In June Android 2.4 will be already launched.
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this is in line with LG italy "our scope is to provide the update in the first half of this year"
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i've just finished a livechat with italian LG support.
they have no info on gingerbread update.
Im glad there are alot of custom roms. LG fails again. superhardware lack of support
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oh my goodness when is the cyanogen gingerbread update .........
hehe who cares? I only care about CM7
The problem is there are a lot of fixes needed even within the LG Android 2.2.2, it's not all about providing GB. The stock LG software is subpar in my oppinion and the problems signaled here and on other forums needs to be addressed by LG hopefully before June.
[email protected], CM7 would be nice but for O2X is in a far from usable state.
If LG launch the 2.3 with the know how demonstrated on 2.2... I don't see how this is a good news...
CM7 is all that mater
maybe LG is waiting for cm7, and get the idea from it
I absolutely agree with the statement "Who cares, I just want CM7".
Then again, LG having the low-level dev access that they have (drivers and whatnot), isn't much easier for them to dev the update than for us to dev CM7? Moreover, wouldn't it be much easier to port CM7 if we had an LG 2.3 ROM?
Cheers.
Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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I kind of like LG for the speed, is much faster than the Galaxy S no matter what kernel you had on it, but O2X has other problems like the poor audio quality in calls and still the software doesn't feel like it's the final version, more like a test one. I agree we should expect more because the super fast hardware is there. It's a reality manufacturers don't care about that, they act like sell only the hardware and after that, they wash their hands. At least Samsung continue to support the Galaxy S which will have GB within weeks and in the meantime we have to wait until summer to get our port on O2X. I would never buy Apple, they sell just boring super expensive and locked products, that are still owned by them even after they sell them to you. If you want Android without headaches, the best bet is on the Nexus Phones. But, in the end, you can't have everything I guess...
Wow, that was long... what are we talking about here?
Sounds like the email I recived from LG Sweden this monday which said their devs had started to work on 2.3...... but what...started? Hasn't 2.3 been out for a while??
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Never buy LG 2X, if it´s not CM supported
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Never buy LG 2X, if it´s not CM supported
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it will be supported and if not I still have my Nexus S hehe
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it will be supported ...
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yes...I would bet it will ..only thing that counts for me
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Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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Try the Nexus S, being just a single core hummingbird processor, the thing flies
LG Optimus 2x have the potential to be faster then the Nexus S, all you need is just to wait until more developers use the phone
In Brazil we have a public petition asking to LG agility on this. Ice Cream Sandwich will be released next month and we can't get gingerbread yet:
The original link (in portuguese/br) is:
http://www.peticaopublica.com.br/PeticaoVer.aspx?pi=LGO2X
Citizens undersigned, here by request comes, a position on the software update from mobile phone model LG P990 OPTIMUS 2X, since the LG device sells in Brazil as the "largest processing power in the world", and in fact, it's extremely outdated, does not match the expectations of buyers.
Around the world LG is delaying all the deadlines for update our phones, disregarding the consumers.
It's unacceptable that our smartphones dont run the system 2.3, since this same hardware is already running newer S.O on T-Mobile U.S. version - LG G2X since july/2011.
We would, at least have a real date, since we are customers of the brand, and we was buying the phone, the update was a decisive factor. We trust on the responsibility of the LGE in Brazil, to provide some kind of information to its Brazilian customers.
If you want to help too, sign the petition and join us (translated to english):
http://translate.google.com.br/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peticaopublica.com.br%2FPeticaoVer.aspx%3Fpi%3DLGO2X&sl=pt&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8
We already have some signs from all the world, you can follow by here:
http://www.peticaopublica.com.br/PeticaoListaSignatarios.aspx?pi=LGO2X
Yes, we can!
Maybe i'll just wait for ICS.. In year 2345.. :-? Hahaha..
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also sign this one ,
it is a dutch /english petition
http://www.petities24.com/lgo2xtogb
if u plan a Class Action u can use this one it has already more than 1500 sings
http://www.petitiononline.com/LGO2XPrb/petition.html
if not this petitions are usless
Can totally agree about how the LG O2x has hardware that deserves the latest build but do think we expect too much from LG since carrier related too.. many years ago there would be hardly any updates on WM yet the community pushed with leaked builds and the users got to get fresh builds with most bugs solved by chefs etc... my point being take a look @ class action taken over the 3D drivers issues with Kaiser it really gets no where I'm sure LG will come up with the goods its just a waiting game in the meantime flash user created builds and set your phone up too rock!
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i hope its work bro...
I dont really care. We have topogigi 1.7, GR3 and CM7. Surely these are better than what LG will bring to us.
I don´t want any official gingerbread anymore. Now I want ICS!
If LG is going to update to ICS I dont know, but I will jump to CM8, even without a2dp and fm radio.
hope so too.
Signed all The problem is that i want FM radio, A2DP, HDMI, and i also want USB host, because tegra 2 supports it. Only LG can give us theese features fully working.
P.s. Sorry for my very bad English.
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Why not ditch GB and go directly to ICS?
like this.. i hope LG give us GB on first week in October..
eL.Ji said:
like this.. i hope LG give us GB on first week in October..
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they say to me on twitter ,that the update is again 3-4 weeks delayed
Weeks? Yeah right!!!
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they provide us only promises, maybe they actually didn't know what gingerbread are...
LG just officially announced version 3.0 of its custom interface, which it is now calling 'Optimus UI'. The updated skin aims to be "unobtrusive and simple" according the LG, as well as bring a handful of new features to LG's handsets:
The ability to unlock the phone by dragging anywhere on the screen
A new Pattern Lock that allows users to preset the most frequently used function, such as the camera, which automatically opens once the phone is unlocked
A simpler version of Optimus UI 3.0 for new smartphone users which organizes the main applications so that they are the easiest to access
A new Voice Shutter that allows users to capture photos using only voice commands
A special camera feature that enables users to pick up the best shot among multiple images including the moment just before the shutter button is depressed
An Icon Customizer that provides an additional level of personalization by allowing users to set their own photos as icons and shortcut images
The addition of a Download category to the menu for easier organization
According to LG Mobile CEO Jong-seok Park, the updated UI is a push to set LG apart from other manufacturers, as "both carriers and customers tell [us] that they want LG phones to look and feel unique and the UI plays a big part in that" (even though it still look remarkably like Samsung's TouchWiz UI).
The first smartphones to see this updated version of Optimus UI are the Optimus LTE II, which comes out this week in Korea, followed but the Optimus 4X HD, which should be available in June.
can you post the link to the source?
LG Officially Announces Optimus UI 3.0, Claims It's 'Unobtrusive And Simple'
I hope that LG devs have time now to work on ICS for Optimus 2x.
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I hope that LG devs have time now to work on ICS for Optimus 2x.
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you mean "LG dev" ? As in I suspect there's only one idiot working at their dev section, seeing how slow and messed up work LG is providing.
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you mean "LG dev" ? As in I suspect there's only one idiot working at their dev section, seeing how slow and messed up work LG is providing.
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Nah, I'm guessing there's three of them.
Three of them handling all 42 LG Android phones to date. lol.
I wonder if this Ui can be ported to our o2x.
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I wonder if this Ui can be ported to our o2x.
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it will be for all devices with Ice Cream
Here you can se a video review betwen the Galaxy Nexus IceCream UI and Optimus 3.0 UI
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I wonder if this Ui can be ported to our o2x.
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it will be for all devices with Ice Cream
Here you can se a video review betwen the Galaxy Nexus IceCream UI and Optimus 3.0 UI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q26w1dPQgL0
Phone makers spend way too much time making silly UIs. They should spend their time making great looking phones (hire a decent designer) with great hardware. Have their devs make a simple and functional version of the stock android, and then let independant devs do the rest. Most people don't buy the phone because of the UI overlay, and they are all fairly similar anyway.
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I wonder if this Ui can be ported to our o2x.
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hei1125 has ported it in his Nova HD rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508492
here is a screen of it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26705843&postcount=3092
It's so nice to feel the LG cares about software too Even though I agree with what has been said above, that the indie devs do a great job and manufacturers could just choose to let the software up to the indies, as a buyer I must say it does bring me some joy the thought of oficial goodies coming my way.
Even though I might not use it... but at least it will be something that the indies might re(use) in their fantastic works.
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I hope that LG devs have time now to work on ICS for Optimus 2x.
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As far as I know, no Tegra 2 phone has an official ICS ROM, even an early leaked build. So I think nvidia has as much to blame as the manufacturers.
Yet I have an incredibly fast version on ics on my tegra2 tablet. That alone tells me its not the hardware issues that manufacturers are touting as the reason ics is questionable on the Tegra systems. I think once an Indie dev shows its possible your just making yourself look foolish, or simply incapable, by standing your ground.
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LG, please, stop making interfaces and release tegra's drivers for ICS!!
I agree with you, but know I like this interface.
ICS rolling to Optimus LTE in Korea
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I can see now why ricardo said to stop asking nvidia for the hal drivers because half of you twats don't even know what it is we need....
lg UI 3.0
i have tasted this UI in 02x via NOVA HD rebuild 1.0.1 ...thanks to Hei for porting it asap......its really coolll...and simple.........looked gorgeous with cm9 build.......hope camecorder fix wil hit nova roms...soon..............hard work never fails....
bbs(plz delete it).k-touch.c(plz delete it)n/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19601&extra=page%3D1
I had heard this news from the official forum of a chinese smartphone company which is Not a well-known brand named K-touch. The smartphone they produced has a accurate same Tegra2 chip with P990 (Tegra2 AP20H, actually same with P990). And their devlopers had given a good news to the MODERATOR of their official forum, and the moderator is the poster of the link above. The news said that they had begun coding with NVIDIA, and a beta ICS rom for their smartphone would be released at about 3 weeks later.
I think P990 could get the drivers after their beta rom released and the Hardware Acceleration of ICS for P990 could be solved. If so, LG provide ICS upgrade or not is not important.
Forgive me for my poor English. And I hope you guys could understand it.
It would really great if this is true But I couldn't find anything related to P990 on the link you given
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bbs(plz delete it).k-touch.c(plz delete it)n/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19601&extra=page%3D1
I had heard this news from the official forum of a chinese smartphone company which is Not a well-known brand named K-touch. The smartphone they produced has a accurate same Tegra2 chip with P990. And their devlopers had given a good news to the MODERATOR of their official forum, and the moderator is the poster of the link above. The news said that they had begun coding with NVIDIA, and a beta ICS rom for their smartphone would be released at about 3 weeks later.
I think P990 could get the drivers after their beta rom released and the Hardware Acceleration of ICS for P990 could be solved. If so, LG provide ICS upgrade or not is not important.
Forgive me for my poor English. And I hope you guys could understand it.
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Link this in official ics source code in sticky thread so some people their can analyze this and give us a proper explanation and if this will help to our phone, but im afraid that this is the same as other device with tegra 2 that this will not help o2x in any way
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dasklney said:
It would really great if this is true But I couldn't find anything related to P990 on the link you given
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The moderator announced that their smartphone K-touch W806 will get ics upgrade, and it has a same Tegra2 chip with P990. That's the only thing it related to P990. I post the link just want people know that the news is dependable.
So when we'll get that phones update binaries....
Good god! the k-touch w700 its really equal to the p990 :laugh::laugh::laugh:
now i got new hopes =D
it will probably have the same problem for porting as all other ics tegra2 phones: it doesn't include lg's modifications.
havent checked yet but ireally doubt it, unless its a completely same system as our phones, which is most unlikely
Great new!!!
It would be good to have a something like confirmation from a ours dev's eye
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http://gadgetian.com/11269/k-touch-w700-specs-price/
The link above shows the phone specs, as you can see, we have different camera still image resolution vide record is not 1080p, some differences in 3g. But you can see too that this is the phone that easily come closer to the optimus 2x (512mb ram , no fisical button, same screen resolution, etc...) and probably uses the same ap20h chipset cuz, it launched long time ago like to o2x
:good:
Ventana board..?
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And since JB still uses kernel 3.0.xx (which has already been ported to our LG O2X), we will also see JB on our phone ...right?
Don't get any high hopes, it is very difficult that the SoC is exactly the same. The Lg 2x is more than a year and a half old, this phone you guys are talking about is recent just like the ZTE Mimosa is, those tegra2 chip have different coding inside.
Even though i have my fingers crossed (just for good luck).
As it was mentioned before, this thread should be on the "ICS updates out" thread........so we can keep on track of the news.
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And since JB still uses kernel 3.0.xx (which has already been ported to our LG O2X), we will also see JB on our phone ...right?
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kernel has nothing to do with JB. Kernel versions have no influence on Android versions. Look at ICS, there are phones with it and they are running with 2.6 kernel. So don't worry about kernels on Jelly Bean.
I wouldn't get my hopes up. Unless it is exactly the same configuration i.e. star board, which is seriously doubt, it is of no use just like ZTE Mimosa / Grand.
the k-touch w700 is as old as o2x!! Great chances to be vantana board
I can't think of a nice way to say this, but WAKE UP, dun act like you guys are on LSD
LG O2x chip needs drivers of its own!!
We wield the first batch of nVidia dual-core processors and they were probably in beta when nVidia manufactured it!!
We have impaired chips and we need custom drivers for them!!
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I can't think of a nice way to say this, but WAKE UP, dun act like you guys are on LSD
LG O2x chip needs drivers of its own!!
We wield the first batch of nVidia dual-core processors and they were probably in beta when nVidia manufactured it!!
We have impaired chips and we need custom drivers for them!!
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Nice sig still forgot to thank you for this post though sorry.
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Nice sig still forgot to thank you for this post though sorry.
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this- lol.
you know that the thanks button doesnt disappear anywhere
hi, is it the same board?! same in all integrity?!
Hello dears,
I write here for the first time in LG 4X forum and I don't want people those who already bought this device to misunderstand me please
the device is really equipped with the latest and fastest hardware at factories,
But..
LG as company is not new, it was (Gold Star) company and replaced the complete ID of the cheap company with Gold Star with LG as new brand.
and the new department decides to get the latest in the market and hit it with the newest electronic weapons as your 4X
I got a past trying with LG devices, with P990 and P999 (G2X) it was really perfect as hardware but as software, it is still with GB v2.3.5 as the final stock ROM from LG, start from v2.2
I don't why LG can't support her devices to the latest software at google android !!!
So the point that I want to reach here is:
Don't expect LG to support your device to the latest ROMs of android, it will stop at 4.1.1 or 4.2 and stop there then you will see the support from MIUI or CM team, but not LG and will face ton's of change log's and (what working) (what is not)
LG is good for short month's of usage but not for long time.
Hope LG support department read this thread and try to support the software teams in the future.
hope you got what I means
Regards
downloadzy said:
Hello dears,
I write here for the first time in LG 4X forum and I don't want people those who already bought this device to misunderstand me please
the device is really equipped with the latest and fastest hardware at factories,
But..
LG as company is not new, it was (Gold Star) company and replaced the complete ID of the cheap company with Gold Star with LG as new brand.
and the new department decides to get the latest in the market and hit it with the newest electronic weapons as your 4X
I got a past trying with LG devices, with P990 and P999 (G2X) it was really perfect as hardware but as software, it is still with GB v2.3.5 as the final stock ROM from LG, start from v2.2
I don't why LG can't support her devices to the latest software at google android !!!
So the point that I want to reach here is:
Don't expect LG to support your device to the latest ROMs of android, it will stop at 4.1.1 or 4.2 and stop there then you will see the support from MIUI or CM team, but not LG and will face ton's of change log's and (what working) (what is not)
LG is good for short month's of usage but not for long time.
Hope LG support department read this thread and try to support the software teams in the future.
hope you got what I means
Regards
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thank you capt. obvious
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thank you capt. obvious
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lol, well said!
You are very optimistic thinking that reached 4.1 1
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I disagree. It looks to me that LG won't even update our 4x to jelly bean.
Lg are bunch of noobs.
To lg - if you are planning to fight with the likes of Samsung/HTC - offer same type of service. Like Unlock tool for the bootloader. Or unlocked boot loader from factory. At least that way we can make our own way into future updates...
I hate myself for buying a lg! Wasn't even aware of locked boot loader. Next time I will sniff around1000 times before deciding to buy a lg.
How many updates to the firmware has there been since the phone was released? And where are the fix lists?
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How many updates to the firmware has there been since the phone was released? And where are the fix lists?
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there are 10a to 10f firmware and i think the update only to solve the problem and i think there will be no update because they think they do a good job...... if they reliaze it!!
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Fixes are fine by my book, ICS is already a very good platform to use. Sure, JB brings more improvements but it is game changing compared to GB to ICS.
Can you show me the fix list? I've searched a lot on google but no one seems to have it..
Perhaps we can hope that lg will upgrade the 4x hd directly to Key Lime, if the rumors about a sonn-to-come Optimus Nexus are true...
Belteral said:
Perhaps we can hope that lg will upgrade the 4x hd directly to Key Lime, if the rumors about a sonn-to-come Optimus Nexus are true...
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1. LG Optimus Nexus is not a rumor, but true
2. Yeah, maybe they're working about something (i'm f*ckin optimistic)
Although, LG's software support is crap, i'd still choose their Hardware over HTC's. And, just being chose by Google as the manufacturer for their new flagship device...LG will hopefully get more love by devs. The Optimus 4x HD is a true beast, it's a shame that LG won't unleash its true capabilities. I've been contemplating in whether to get an O4x HD (price is soooo cheap) or just wait for the LG Nexus G (which is most likely what im guna do). Either way, my next phone will be an LG. For some reason, i've becomed very bored with Samsungs, especially with my S3.
LG is going to make a conference on 24-25 oct, hope we'll get some infos about updates
http://lgepr.lge.com/CommonEmailPopup.laf?pageFlag=Notice&sendId=2698*
LG need to much time, they will update.