So I'm debating RMA's the N7 I have with Google Play. I have a slight screen raise (this doesn't bother me too much) as well as screen flicker that I notice in low lighting situations (mostly in chrome and maps).
Does anyone NOT have screen flicker? Or is this a software issue?
Does anyone NOT have the slight screen raise?
Foxman2k said:
So I'm debating RMA's the N7 I have with Google Play. I have a slight screen raise (this doesn't bother me too much) as well as screen flicker that I notice in low lighting situations (mostly in chrome and maps).
Does anyone NOT have screen flicker? Or is this a software issue?
Does anyone NOT have the slight screen raise?
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Hey, I believe the screen flicker is due to the auto brightness function of the device.
I personally don't like auto brightness at all, try turning it off in the brightness menu and see if you still get that.
I see the flicker quite often with devices having that function turned on.
andyxover said:
Hey, I believe the screen flicker is due to the auto brightness function of the device.
I personally don't like auto brightness at all, try turning it off in the brightness menu and see if you still get that.
I see the flicker quite often with devices having that function turned on.
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Hmmmm well I guess the only thing I have to compare it to is my iPhone 4 which doesn't do this.
My eyes are usually sensitive enough to be annoyed by screen flicker in any respect. Certainly with overhead CFL lighting.
My 16GB Nexus 7 (2 days in my posession now) doe snot exhibit any sort of screen flicker whatsoever. This is in comparison side by side with my HTC Desire HD which also does not flicker.
The display actually has a very high quality feeling which I like.
EvilDeadFan said:
My eyes are usually sensitive enough to be annoyed by screen flicker in any respect. Certainly with overhead CFL lighting.
My 16GB Nexus 7 (2 days in my posession now) doe snot exhibit any sort of screen flicker whatsoever. This is in comparison side by side with my HTC Desire HD which also does not flicker.
The display actually has a very high quality feeling which I like.
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Thanks for the feedback. So even in low lighting conditions, with auto brightness set to on, and scrolling around in chrome / maps, you screen never flickers or sort of rapidly dims?
I've noticed it. Only on white web pages or books. Very slight. I had two HTC One Xs that both had it. Its a Tegra issue and doubt we will see a fix. Gutted.
Its not the whole screen. Noticeable around text especially. Some weird refresh prob. Left side of my screen is also slightly raised. Not happy.
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Arthur Hucksake said:
I've noticed it. Only on white web pages or books. Very slight. I had two HTC One Xs that both had it. Its a Tegra issue and doubt we will see a fix. Gutted.
Its not the whole screen. Noticeable around text especially. Some weird refresh prob. Left side of my screen is also slightly raised. Not happy.
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I definitely get it on the whole screen, maybe for a second or 2. Might do it 2-3 times per day at most.
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Happened to me, I just turned the auto brightness off and t was fine. Try it, it works.
I keep auto brightness disabled and I haven't noticed the flicker that I can remember but tonight I'll try to reproduce and check it both ways.
I disable auto brightness and use this app which is actually a widget. It allows you to UAW any edge on the screen as an invisible or barely visible slider for brightness. It allows for incremental 1% changes on a slider instead of the typical button/toggle widget and its always enabled if you set it that way which allows on the go ease of use no matter what app or screen is open.
Its helped me attain amazing battery life and always have quick access for setting it just right.
Play store - Display Brightness by RubberBigPepper
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.DisplayBrightness
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Neither issue here.
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No flicker......no raised screen.
No flicker here. Although I agree with disabling auto brightness, not a fan of the effect that can sometime have.
just recieved 2 nexus 7's today, so far my one (16gb) is PERFTCY *touches wood* this thing is so awsome!! not a thing wrong with it and was shipped from USA to south africa... My dads one on (8gb) the other hand had a raised screen on the left which he has absolutely no worries with its not that bad, but so far we loving this devices ))
Why a separate thread? There's already a long one on it that'll answer most of your questions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29329145
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Why a separate thread? There's already a long one on it that'll answer most of your questions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29329145
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I understand that - I'm trying to gauge whether or not it affects ALL N7's, or is a defect.
Google Play is shipping me a replacement N7 to address the screen raise on my current one, and I want to make sure the replacement is 100% A-OK.
Foxman2k said:
I understand that - I'm trying to gauge whether or not it affects ALL N7's, or is a defect.
Google Play is shipping me a replacement N7 to address the screen raise on my current one, and I want to make sure the replacement is 100% A-OK.
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Make a poll if you're trying to do that.... But yes, I see flicker too, but only at very low backlight levels and seems to be when wifi is active. I haven't tested to see if it's just wifi, or wifi causing other things (disk activity, etc), but this is the general consensus so far in the other thread.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ay-ghosting-just-take-a-look-at-these-photos/
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Damn, doesnt sound good
Still, google did say that the tablets are still 'under testing' and should be getting a few more updates before released to us. Hopefully one of those will fix it
I'd be interested to know if any of the members here have encountered this issue?
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I'd like some corroboration if anyone has it.
Edit: Corroboration and comments. Are any of you seeing it in daily use? Etc.
Probably just from the bad batch
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Ha. This figures. I have a Prime and have had numerous display problem, along with many other Prime owners. Take a look in the Prime forums if you're interested. Asus uses crappy displays.
I'm sure if this was a big problem there would have been a lot more complaints by now.
Mine doesn't seem to have this issue, it does have a slight flicker though, but I'm hoping that will get sorted out with a newer build.
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Mine doesn't seem to have this issue, it does have a slight flicker though, but I'm hoping that will get sorted out with a newer build.
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Did you test that image?
Well, I have to say I have never taken my prime, set the screen to max bright, left and image static on it for "several minutes" and then checked.
Seems like an odd thing to do in day to day use.
my prime display operates & looks fine. way too early to associate this with prime issues. I hope this nexus forum doesn't get influenced by negative assumption driven mentality and the consumer version of Nexus 7 isn't even released yet.
way to soon to jump the gun on a reported issue. I see I may need to create Positive Nexus 7 thread also...lmfao
lets not become divided in this forum like prime one. it was the ones whose primes worked fine vs. those with issues. SMH. it got ugly in there, especially in the beginning. I thought I would be escaping the madness by this being a Nexus driven forum/device.
This is NOT a problem, ghosting is a common occurrence for all IPS displays. Just a quirk they have, don't leave the display on full brightness on a static image for 5min and you will be fine.
Hi,
my Nexus 7 has this problem.
I don't think it's a common "ghost IPS problem", because I get it also if I leave the tablet for 5 minuts in stand by (so screen off). When I power it on the screen is white and it takes about 1 minute to get normal.
The Ars Technica review suggests that the ghosting issue gets better over time. Fingers crossed.
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My G2x has an IPS display and doesn't ghost. This does however remind me of people going Max brightness in a dark room to test for "screen leak" and complaining when they find it under such drastic conditions. Yes, the article above does say even under automatic brightness but the fact that they tested with Max brightness made me chuckle.
I don't know... just not really worried about it. If it seriously ghosts really bad I'll return it, and if it doesn't I'll keep it.
Definitely jumping the gun on this one. No one has even seen a production model afaik, so just chill until you actually get yours.
Thanks OP for bringing the issue to our attention though.
Brac20 said:
The Ars Technica review suggests that the ghosting issue gets better over time. Fingers crossed.
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I really hope. My Nexus 7 has been opened for the first time couple hours ago, but for now the problem is really annoying.
Hmmmm interesting thread. Guess we will know within the weeks to come!!
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My G2x has an IPS display and doesn't ghost. This does however remind me of people going Max brightness in a dark room to test for "screen leak" and complaining when they find it under such drastic conditions. Yes, the article above does say even under automatic brightness but the fact that they tested with Max brightness made me chuckle.
I don't know... just not really worried about it. If it seriously ghosts really bad I'll return it, and if it doesn't I'll keep it.
Definitely jumping the gun on this one. No one has even seen a production model afaik, so just chill until you actually get yours.
Thanks OP for bringing the issue to our attention though.
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My Prime had serious screen bleeding in a dark room, no wonder what the brightness was, so dont write off all the people who experienced screen bleed..That being said, and like others have mentioned, it is way too early to lump the nexus7 in with the TFP...although I did have my reservations about the nexus7 because of Asus's track record with tablets
cisoprogressivo said:
Hi,
my Nexus 7 has this problem.
I don't think it's a common "ghost IPS problem", because I get it also if I leave the tablet for 5 minuts in stand by (so screen off). When I power it on the screen is white and it takes about 1 minute to get normal.
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got my 16G Nexus 7 last night and experienced the exact same problem as yours, the washout took more than 5 mins to disappear
Ghosting, washout, flicker
I got my 16GB yesterday and have all three problems. After I close Chrome, for example, I can still see (faintly, but legibly) my tabs, the URL bar, the URL even, etc.
I have a slight flickering problem.
I definitely have a washout problem - and it changes, too. Sometimes it's severe, sometimes not so bad.
I'm going to give it another day or two and if it hasn't resolved itself I will probably return it for another one.
I've received much from xda-developers forum, so I wanted to give a little back.
My Nexus 7 8GB had the flicker issue and some screen separation on the left hand side, I contacted Google and did the RMA process, yesterday I received the new one, and the change in hardware has eliminated the flicker issue. I know many people are waiting, hoping it's a software fix (and there may be one), but there is definitely some hardware change that fixed the flickering.
The panel in the new Nexus 7 seems different, as the color temperature is significantly cooler than on my original Nexus 7.
I recorded a quick video, which shows them side by side, it's hard to tell unless you're running full screen and HD, but the flickering is visible. Hopefully this helps those waiting for a software fix not get stuck with a bad screen...
Other than the flickering problem, this tablet rocks!
Could you post your serial# and CSSN off the box?
Doesn't have to be your exact serial#...just a rough one. E.g., mine is 338Kish and it still has the flicker issue...
What makes you so sure there's been a hardware revision?
I have one of the first N7's shipped from Google, and it's flicker free.
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just lou said:
What makes you so sure there's been a hardware revision?
I have one of the first N7's shipped from Google, and it's flicker free.
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Do you have the 8 or 16 gig version?
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What makes you so sure there's been a hardware revision?
I have one of the first N7's shipped from Google, and it's flicker free.
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I'm not sure there's been a hardware revision at all... It could just be two batches of the panels, one faulty? Or something else. All I know is that one panel is distinctively warm in color (the original) and has the flicker issue, and the other panel is cool and with no flicker. Maybe just a bad batch of panels? Or some of the other accompanying driver hardware? Assembly?
I'm just saying that a hardware change made a major and distinct difference for me.
When I get a chance I'll post the CSSN/SN.
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8GB
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I'm not sure there's been a hardware revision at all... It could just be two batches of the panels, one faulty? Or something else. All I know is that one panel is distinctively warm in color (the original) and has the flicker issue, and the other panel is cool and with no flicker. Maybe just a bad batch of panels? Or some of the other accompanying driver hardware? Assembly?
I'm just saying that a hardware change made a major and distinct difference for me.
When I get a chance I'll post the CSSN/SN.
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My dads Nexus 7 16gb has quite a yellow tint to the screen and the left side of the screen is sticking up - although I don't think it flickers.. He's getting a replacement tomorrow although it won't be directly from Google. (Tesco's)
I'll post up whether the screen is any different.
This is good info. Once we get more confirmation that perhaps a RMA will solve the issue, then we'll see how good Google is at doing exchanges from the Play store. This entire issue has been so hard to pin down.
It would be nice if Google was more proactive about it and just offered a solution, but that is wishful thinking, I know.
Thanks!
PS my SN on a 16GB model that demonstrates the flicker is:
SSN: C60KBC226---
I just got off the phone. Was on hold for all of 2 minutes. The whole phone call was 8 minutes and 18 seconds. Hopefully it all works out.
heh I did the map test too and saw flicker and planning my return, but I saw some other users were saying tegra devices had this problem. so I turned OFF the wifi, and there was still flickering!
so.. before anyone jumps to conclusions maybe try the map scroll with wifi off
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heh I did the map test too and saw flicker and planning my return, but I saw some other users were saying tegra devices had this problem. so I turned OFF the wifi, and there was still flickering!
so.. before anyone jumps to conclusions maybe try the map scroll with wifi off
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I had wifi on for both of them in the video, brightness set to the lowest setting, and the auto brightness checkbox off. It was happening to me in all applications, the map just seemed the easiest to reproduce in, so it may actually be related to the wifi receiving/sending data.
The new one does not have the issue at all.
can you try them both with wifi off?
I just got around to trying to find this issue on my Nexus 7, and I do see that the Maps app has some "flicker" (i.e., color or brightness changes). If this is what everyone is talking about (sorry, haven't kept up with this particular issue), then let me say that the EXACT same thing happened on my Transformer Prime.
I remain pretty sure that this whole issue is related to the PRISM power-saving tech that's a part of the Tegra 3 platform. I've seen too many wonky issues like this on too many Tegra 3 tablet to think it's not related (that includes the Prime, the Toshiba Excite 10, and the Toshiba Excite 7.7, the latter of which is even an AMOLED screen and so not subject to LCD-type issues).
So I tried to reproduce the flicker on my N7 and was only able to reproduce flicker upon panning in google maps. When I drag the map around and the street names are loading I can sometimes see a minimal flicker (generally when I a lot of loading is occurring). Its pretty subtle and only visible when brightness levels are low.
Don't see any flickering at any brightness level besides that.
To OP, can you see any flickering at all upon panning in your new device? my N7 doesn't flicker like the old one you have, I could probably bare with it.
In a dark room with a Strong wifi full bars and barely and WiFi signal had the same Flickering issue with google maps. It is something else.
So for me it doesn't appear WiFi signal effects it.
Going to be calling Google tomorrow.
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The panel in the new Nexus 7 seems different, as the color temperature is significantly cooler than on my original Nexus 7.
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The change in colour temp is probably just normal variation. No mobile devices are calibrated (including the iPad3) and they all show a fairly wide variety in their white balance. It is possible, though, that the flicker has some sort of causal relationship with the screen lift.
My search led me here after noticing the flicker issue while browsing the web on my n7 at night.
I just did the map test and it flickers every 5 secs with the WiFi ON. With WiFi OFF there is no flicker. Same with all the apps that use WiFi.
So is a this a HW or SW issue?
There's already a large thread on screen flicker. Not sure why we needed another. Maybe a mod can merge them.
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Thanks for the post. I received mine on Tuesday and noticed the screen flicker with the auto brightness. Called last night and they're sending me another. If the RMA flickers, I'll wait until Google's new Motorola division begins creating actual PURE Google products.
Here's my Nexus serial: xx0KBC019770
My first device had the screen separation issue. I have since had this replaced and the new one has the screen flicker.
It is most noticable when the brightness is at its lowest, above 20% it _almost_ disappears. turning wifi off seems to stop the flicker.
In the video did you have the brightness the same on both?
Hey guys,
I started noticing bit of red tint on lower half of the screen.
I am aware viewing angle make difference, but no matter which orientation/angle I look from it is still there.
Anyone else having similar issue?
Also, if this is a defect, is this the kind that retailer usually replace for consumer?
It is giving me headache looking at the screen for a prolonged period even though the tint is not severe.
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Its very, very slight on mine. Nothing that would make me consider returning it though.
Also, screen tint shift based on angle is a lot more frequent than my s3 (i9300). I tilt note4 by even 5deg and I see colour shift already, but nothing like that on s3.
Can someone confirm this please.
Thank you.
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mkim055 said:
Also, screen tint shift based on angle is a lot more frequent than my s3 (i9300). I tilt note4 by even 5deg and I see colour shift already, but nothing like that on s3.
Can someone confirm this please.
Thank you.
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Yes, my phone does this. However I've checked a lot of shop display units and have noticed many are better and some are worse than mine. The sad fact is that there seems to be a bit of a screen lottery going on and it's luck whether you get a good screen or a bad one.
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Yes, my phone does this. However I've checked a lot of shop display units and have noticed many are better and some are worse than mine. The sad fact is that there seems to be a bit of a screen lottery going on and it's luck whether you get a good screen or a bad one.
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So you reckon retail wouldnt replace it.
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You can try it. If they have a display unit that is obviously better than your current one and they can see that. Problem is you might end up with a replacement that is just as bad or worse!
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You can try it. If they have a display unit that is obviously better than your current one and they can see that. Problem is you might end up with a replacement that is just as bad or worse!
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That is not right.... =(
People spend $1000 just to go into lottery of getting 'normal' one....
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mkim055 said:
That is not right.... =(
People spend $1000 just to go into lottery of getting 'normal' one....
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Thats been the case since the Galaxy Note 2, even my note 3 has a slight reddish tint on the top part of the screen.. most if not all the units ive seen either has a red tint or a more warmer color tone at a certain part of the screen. People have accepted this as a norm.
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Thats been the case since the Galaxy Note 2, even my note 3 has a slight reddish tint on the top part of the screen.. most if not all the units ive seen either has a red tint or a more warmer color tone at a certain part of the screen. People have accepted this as a norm.
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Yeah funny it is a norm for Note series when it is not for S series when both using same display technology
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Agree. My old s5 was much better with colour shift and tinting. As are the new tab s tablets. I'm disappointed with the note 4 screen.
Have you tried setting the display to photo mode?
I am still wondering if we talk about the same phone, my Note 4 has no red tint and no color shift at all, no matter how much I turn the phone.
Also looking at a totally white/red/yellow picture, I can't find any part of the screen that is warmer. Some people also reported that greys look terrible, I can't comfirm that for my display.
Coming from the Nexus 5, this display looks so much better in all aspects, I am still stunned after using the phone for 3 days now.
There seems to be quite a disparity between phones. Some are good, some are bad. That tends to be why people are having different experiences.
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Yeah funny it is a norm for Note series when it is not for S series when both using same display technology
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It was the norm for the S series up until the S4 came out. The S4 was the first Samsung screen since the Note 2 that had a very nice and even screen.
S1, S2, S3, Note 1, Note 3 all suffer from poor screen uniformity. Guess you can add the Note 4 to that too.
This worries me as I'm planning on skipping the Note 4 for the Nexus 6. Samsung will already be giving Motorola last years Amoled tech, and stretched across the bigger screen the unevenness will be even more obvious.
Especially now that Android Lollipop will be mostly light grey everywhere! Amoled's worst nightmare.
red tint?
What red tint, is this when the screen is on? off? I haven't noticed any red tint but now I'm worried...
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What red tint, is this when the screen is on? off? I haven't noticed any red tint but now I'm worried...
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Wow, if you do not notice it - do not find a reason to notice it. Be happy with your device.
My display is a very slightly more blueish/pinkish towards the top half, specifically the top right. It's only noticeable on white content. It's subtle enough that I won't go through the hassle of getting a replacement especially since the replacement could be even worse... At least my display has been brightness and no banding or anything. Overall though, this display is simply phenomenal. Hopefully these slight display issues will improve as time goes on, although the screen on my S4 was very uniform, doesn't even come close to the performance of the Note 4 screen though.
Seems like the problems are much less pronounced that the typical uneven backlight of LCD?
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Wow, if you do not notice it - do not find a reason to notice it. Be happy with your device.
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Then I shall not look for it! Hope those who do have it find a solution!
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Have you tried setting the display to photo mode?
I am still wondering if we talk about the same phone, my Note 4 has no red tint and no color shift at all, no matter how much I turn the phone.
Also looking at a totally white/red/yellow picture, I can't find any part of the screen that is warmer. Some people also reported that greys look terrible, I can't comfirm that for my display.
Coming from the Nexus 5, this display looks so much better in all aspects, I am still stunned after using the phone for 3 days now.
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Love to see some youtube videos from people who have issues, mine looks fine to me.
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Then I shall not look for it! Hope those who do have it find a solution!
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Yeah trust me, you will end up paranoid and find a reason to dislike your phone (even if you never noticed the problem in the first place). Like they say, ignorance is bliss! Enjoy the phone.
Ive seen no threads on this issue so I decided to make one! But I wanted to know if anyone had any! Personally I had one stuck pixel on my tab s. Yet it was really hard to see I later got it fixed by doing a stuck pixel remover video for about a couple of hours and later installed discreet blue theme. Now its not there! I own the tab s 10.5 Wifi.
So... Has anyone else got a stuck pixel or an image burnt into their screen? Let me know below! Could be useful for others buying this tablet!
I've had the Tab S 10.5 LTE since release, use at least 8 hours daily for work and haven't got any issues in terms of the screen degrading like burn in or stuck pixels, have thoroughly checked to be sure, might have just been a one time thing, generally take years for a burn in on Amoled but even then I have had other AMOLED screen devices for years without a problem
No burn ins on my unit as well , im using the 8.4 as my primary phone and gps. Im always at 1/16th brightness. I also have a 4 yr old 7.7 slate, no burn ins as well. Seems like newer amoleds are not that prone to burn ins. Just to add, im using an all black theme.
Somehow (turning brightness all the way up all the time) my friend burned in a new note 2 in about 3 months. He used his phone a LOT as well.
My Tab S (about a month old now, auto brightness below 10-20% using Velis Auto Brightness, not much used) is perfect for now. However I saw the two 10.5" samples heavily burned at the local mobile shop. Also saw two months old Note 4 heavily burned at the same mobile shop. So it seems burn-in problem with this latest amoled screens still remains.
Thank you guys for your response! Yeah turning the brightness up to 75‰ is how I got mine. That was when I first got my tablet and had it on 75% for the whole month. I want to walamrt the other day to see the samples. The screen seem imrpoved from when I got mine. I will try to use a autobrightness app
Thread should now be a discussion thread about the burned in pixels. Guess I made it look like a question. Thanks forum mods for telling me about this problem and moving the thread back!
I assume this thread is for burned-in and stuck pixel questions/discussion?
If so: I just went to a couple of local stores to test out the Tab S, with an intention to bring one home. I didn't so far -- all devices (4 in 2 different shops) had pretty severe burn-in from the demo programs that Samsung installs and runs on the devices in the store. A couple of them so much that it was actually disturbing for things like browsing plain web pages (white background); you could read the "inverted" text that had burned in.
One store anticipated the device had been on for 10 hours a day since somewhere August last year, which would make it around 10*6*40 or about 2.400 hours of use -- presumably close to max output on the display in "demo mode".
This caused me to hesitate... is this a common problem with the devices, particular to early models, or just something that happens if you run it for too high output -- or will it happen eventually to all devices? A life-time of less than 2.000 hours seems quite low to me in any case.
Also, when/if it happens, are there any ways to "reset" the screen again, or is the damage permanent?
I have a ~2 yr old S4 that does NOT have any burn-in, but I also use that much less, not at 100% brightness and usually with varying content on the screen. I guess the display technology is similar even if the Tab S is a much newer device.
I never had burn in problems in any Samsung amoled devices (since S1).
Just made sure box was sealed and auto brightness was always on.
Actually, I personally have a worst experience with LCD with light bleed and other issues.
Yeah, No problems with my 10.5" Wifi , I watch a lot of Animi and always run it fullscreen, so no black bars, also i set brightness to auto -5 when i am using it indoors.
No stuck or dead pixels, fingers crossed.
John.
@pacc @tinderbox(UK): That sounds re-assuring. Sounds like it's still safe to go ahead and acquire the device (in my case probably the 32GB WiFi 10.5" edition). Hopefully this is the general experience by most people then.
On the LCD bleeding, then yes, that can be quite annoying too!
Just be glad you did not buy the 8.4" version as that is having some problems with the display that might affect some people.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/tab-s-8-4-screen-homogeneity-issues-t2826661
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I have 8.4 version and the screen is in perfect condition.
You need to use one of the screen test app to check for any problems with the screen before you buy, or the time runs out for you to return the tablet for a refund.
Some people are not bothered, good for them.
John.
I'll test it out thoroughly while it can still be returned. Thanks for the heads-up on that issue as well
If you really want to find every possible quality problem with the display, view a light gray screen in the dark, using a screen test app , set the brightness to low, look for circles and clouding, as well as dead or hot pixels.
John.
pnomandk said:
I'll test it out thoroughly while it can still be returned. Thanks for the heads-up on that issue as well
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I have an S4 I bought used and have used for about a year. It is getting heavily burned in. I am questioning how long this display will last. Hopefully by the time I need to replace it the screens will be cheap
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What was burned-in on your S4 , notification bar?, home screen icons? , were you using an navigator app? , how high did you have you brightness set?
Using an low brightness setting can reduce the change of screen burn-in, but if you live in an sunny country you most likely have the brightness set virtually to max to allow you to see the screen outside.
Thanks
John.
zombolt said:
I have an S4 I bought used and have used for about a year. It is getting heavily burned in. I am questioning how long this display will last. Hopefully by the time I need to replace it the screens will be cheap
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I decided to check for stuck pixels on my Tab S again. Turns out, I have 3 stuck ones now! They are really really tiny that I can even notice them. Took me a minute or so to search for them. In order to see them, you have to use a holo background and not full black ones. You would have to find an dark gray image or something like an inverted app but isn't full black which is a good thing for me I guess. The good thing is that they don't appear on bright colors (red,blue,white,etc) which I personally couldn't see it. A holo background or gray image is when I can see it the most. When I put a black image, its fully black with no stuck pixels in sight. So that could mean they still work and turn on and off fine. So I'm thinking it's just stuck when displaying colors other than black.
I've kept my brightness 1/4 bright all the time, only used it for watching videos and browsing the web mostly. It's been one year since I bought this and I personally don't mind it. This is what I've seen so far
Edit: using a screen filter app to darken the screen on an holo image made it show the most so I can see. This lowest stock brightness doesn't seem to show a lot unless you get close to the screen.
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A couple of weeks ago a guy bought an demo 10.5" and it had an perfect Samsung logo and stripe burned almost across the entire center of the display, the worst i have ever see.
He was asking would burning in the inverted image reduce the burn-in, I found the exact Samsung wallpaper responsible and inverted it for him, but i never heard anymore, it really needed an new screen.
John.
Please help. I am planning to buy nexus 6. I have read a lot about nexus 6 display issues like burn in issues , uneven color, grey lines and lower half of screen freezing. Some say these are present in all devices to variable extent and in most exist in mild form.
Should i get nexus 6 ? does these screen issues still exist?
Else i will buy Galaxy s6
drnishant123 said:
Please help. I am planning to buy nexus 6. I have read a lot about nexus 6 display issues like burn in issues , uneven color, grey lines and lower half of screen freezing. Some say these are present in all devices to variable extent and in most exist in mild form.
Should i get nexus 6 ? does these screen issues still exist?
Else i will buy Galaxy s6
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I've had mine since November 2014 and I have none of those issues.
Smooth sailing here
I keep it adaptive 66% brightness and its all good no burn-in that I can see I have noticed some specific apps like chrome cause a weird freeze on the right screen half happens maybe once a month with no pattern (a quick screen off/on fixes it could possibly be a custom kernel thing). Only other thing I'd say is the screen has a very warm color palette by default, I use code blue with kcal 237, 235, 255 to make a cooler feel, there's a thread about it somewhere. I've had mine since February.
drnishant123 said:
Please help. I am planning to buy nexus 6. I have read a lot about nexus 6 display issues like burn in issues , uneven color, grey lines and lower half of screen freezing. Some say these are present in all devices to variable extent and in most exist in mild form.
Should i get nexus 6 ? does these screen issues still exist?
Else i will buy Galaxy s6
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The Galaxy S6 has lots more software issues then the N6 atm and besides that i have never personaly had this screen issue. The N6 is a great phone especialy now it is beeing discounted here and there (US and UK).
Been rocking N6 for last 1 month and i am loving it. No issues at all. Like u i was also very concerned to put into huge sum of money into N6 purchase after reading soooooo many discouraging videos and reviews and comments.
But i am using it as my daily driver for like 1 month now and i haven't seen any issue related to screen, battery, or even software. 5.1.1 is very stable.
I keep the adaptive brightness on and brightness level at 50% and i get 4 - 4.5 hours SOT with everything on...including google now, location history, location reporting high accuracy.
No screen burn, no battery swelling, no battery life issues, no screen freezes, bt yes i'll admit the screen colour is more on a warmer side.
I got a Nexus 6 from Google Play and a friend got one from Motorola in June 2015. Both have screen issues, one have vertical banding noticeable on gray or dark backgrounds, the other has a yellow tint and very uneven backlighting. I'm not sure if most have these issues and simply aren't bothered or what. Not sure what to do at this point.
Flawless here
No issues with mine ....
mine works fine never had any of the issues above
No issues for me.
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There's no backlighting.
What I meant to say is that strips of the screen are brighter or darker than the rest of the screen and it looks blotchy. If I hadn't viewed a solid gray screen, I might not have noticed but this doesn't make me happy, especially knowing that Android M has a dark theme with lots of grays.
I've had my white 64gb from Motorola since March. Had it replaced once already for the screen tearing issue when running a custom dpi. The replacement I got a month ago does the same. Will be calling again soon
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I got a nexus 6 at ATT through the next program a couple months ago. It had banding on the right side of the screen right out of the box. It was pretty discouraging. I took it back and got it swapped for another unit and honestly couldn't be happier. The n6 is an amazing phone.
crzycrkr said:
I've had my white 64gb from Motorola since March. Had it replaced once already for the screen tearing issue when running a custom dpi. The replacement I got a month ago does the same. Will be calling again soon
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Screen tearing or half black?
Issues relating to custom DPI happen on them all.
I received mine on 6/18, no issues other than a pink hue at low brightness (with adaptive brightness turned on) which seems to be software based.
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Screen tearing or half black?
Issues relating to custom DPI happen on them all.
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Half black, and half freeze, which I've seen be referred to as screen tearing in just about all the posts I could find on it. Funny thing is on every kernel or ROM thread ice asked about it I've been told it does not happen on all of them. Seems many have had their phones replaced and had no issues in the replacement and that has led to people believing it's a hardware issue. Only other explanation I had seen was something about Franco saying it's a possible display driver issue. Sucks that I can't use Franco kernel at AOL because it becomes horrible
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Half black, and half freeze, which I've seen be referred to as screen tearing in just about all the posts I could find on it. Funny thing is on every kernel or ROM thread ice asked about it I've been told it does not happen on all of them. Seems many have had their phones replaced and had no issues in the replacement and that has led to people believing it's a hardware issue. Only other explanation I had seen was something about Franco saying it's a possible display driver issue. Sucks that I can't use Franco kernel at AOL because it becomes horrible
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The tearing, which by that I mean freezing definitely seems to be a graphics card issue. The half-black if you change the DPI and rotate clockwise so buttons are on the bottom, afaik happens to them all. I think this is related to the GPU to, though I don';t think that is hardware issue. The tearing issue seems to manifest more when the device is warm/hot
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The tearing, which by that I mean freezing definitely seems to be a graphics card issue. The half-black if you change the DPI and rotate clockwise so buttons are on the bottom, afaik happens to them all. I think this is related to the GPU to, though I don';t think that is hardware issue. The tearing issue seems to manifest more when the device is warm/hot
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The tearing is a graphics card software or hardware issue? I love this phone, but it's getting very frustrating. Especially since my RMA prices with Motorola turned out to be a series of clusterf*cks.
I'm running Chroma right now and with the included Franco it's unusable in both my phones at a lower dpi. Half screen freezes left and right within seconds of starting up. The reasons I initially believed it was software was that it only seems to happen in certain apps. Specifically ones that required a lot of scrolling, like XDA, Facebook, and chrome. But no one else in the thread seems to have the issue
The half black screen I figured had to be software because the soft buttons are still on the screen.
I just wish there was a solid answer so I could stop guessing
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crzycrkr said:
The tearing is a graphics card software or hardware issue? I love this phone, but it's getting very frustrating. Especially since my RMA prices with Motorola turned out to be a series of clusterf*cks.
I'm running Chroma right now and with the included Franco it's unusable in both my phones at a lower dpi. Half screen freezes left and right within seconds of starting up. The reasons I initially believed it was software was that it only seems to happen in certain apps. Specifically ones that required a lot of scrolling, like XDA, Facebook, and chrome. But no one else in the thread seems to have the issue
The half black screen I figured had to be software because the soft buttons are still on the screen.
I just wish there was a solid answer so I could stop guessing
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I've never had the tearing issue and not everyone has that one. The guys who have had an RMA have generally said that it had stopped the issue happening. Im not sure that has any link to DPI either. My suspician based on not really any evidence at all is that it is hardware related, since some have it and some do not.
The half black is definitely linked to DPI and there is no fix to that that I am aware. I just turn that rotation mode off so I can only go anti-clockwise.
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I've never had the tearing issue and not everyone has that one. The guys who have had an RMA have generally said that it had stopped the issue happening. Im not sure that has any link to DPI either. My suspician based on not really any evidence at all is that it is hardware related, since some have it and some do not.
The half black is definitely linked to DPI and there is no fix to that that I am aware. I just turn that rotation mode off so I can only go anti-clockwise.
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The weird thing with me with the tearing is it only happens in certain situations and has been consistent across both devices I had. Certain kernels I get it, other ones I do not. Franco has been unusable for me on both. It has only happened at lower dpi. Never on stock. Send to be less frequent with interactive governors than ondemand or conservative
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