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[Q] Is there a gNote WITHOUT black clipping/crush/color rendering, etc.??

The question is simple: is there a Note with a good screen? Simple test: is there a note that shows 11 as a first noticable number on this picture? (If you can barely discern below 11, that's fine)
http://www.dodaj.rs/?w/zW/2uzMNrCj/untitled.jpg
You have to be in a dark room to test this. I tried 7 different Notes and they all show from 4 and one from 1.
(tried this on an S III and it shows from 11)

yes it shows

a person with a Note (or S3) without the black clipping issue would be very lucky. it's hard to find a stock that has a perfect screen. it is after all the sickness of SAMOLED screens.

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cptnappy said:
a person with a Note (or S3) without the black clipping issue would be very lucky. it's hard to find a stock that has a perfect screen. it is after all the sickness of SAMOLED screens.
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Yes, I know, but there are many people claiming to have no issue at all. Here is one YT video that shows 90% reduced black clipping
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl9ZmsIji7U
So, there is hope..

I've read somehere in our Note's forum that just by changing kernels on your phone would change the MDNIe on your Note, thereby decreasing the black clippings on your phone.

lol pixelation in dark areas is that black crush, or not being able to read a specific number because screen brightness/contrast/gamma is low?
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Mine looks fine but how does this prove that my screen is fine? Gonna watch a 'dark' video and see if I do get the black crush, I don't remember if I do or not.
Edit: Mine is all good!
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sujal said:
Mine looks fine but how does this prove that my screen is fine? Gonna watch a 'dark' video and see if I do get the black crush, I don't remember if I do or not.
Edit: Mine is all good!
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Post a picture or it did not happen. Test in a dark room. Proofs needed:
1. picture with the numbers showing on the screen
2. Take a picture of the calculator running
Don't use screenshot, you have to take a picture with a camera

shatroghistro said:
Yes, I know, but there are many people claiming to have no issue at all. Here is one YT video that shows 90% reduced black clipping
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl9ZmsIji7U
So, there is hope..
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That's my video. Although its still there it is nowhere near as bad as my previous notes.
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baz77 said:
lol pixelation in dark areas is that black crush, or not being able to read a specific number because screen brightness/contrast/gamma is low?
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It is crush or clipping. The settings of the screen are set by Sammy to pull all values to zero after a certain threshold like 4 in that pic. They do this because they think it improves contrast. It is stupid, and even more stupid on an OLED screen that has good black levels anyway. It is not the "screen" as in hardware, it is the way the low level drivers are set.
The right way to do it is to ramp down smoothly to zero with zero the only level that shows nothing at all (pure black).

[Q] Does my Note have a black clipping / black crush screen bug?

Here's the picture with the test image.
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6136/20121220181102.jpg

Looks like it. Don't worry about it though, you probably won't notice it in normal use.

mine is so noticeable when I play darker movies like Dark Knight. All the black clips It's so sad. I haven't read enough to find a work around, and I don't think there is one.

Do new Notes 1 (the N7000), ones produced recently (eg. 3/6 months ago) still have this bug? If yes, is the display better than displays of 1,5 year old Notes?

I have the initial release of note and thank God never experienced any such thing.
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Dont use powersave and keep auto screen adjustment off. Also keep brigtness up,all help
from the man hiding in your attic....

Videos very dim!

The screen brightness of the One is absolutely nice, and even with power saver settings on it is bright enough for me when playing games, looking at pictures and browsing the web.
But when watching videos on it, which I expected to be awesome due to the great dispay, I was very disappointed. The brightness of the movie itself is very low. I often have to crank up brightness to the max with MxPlayer to enjoy watching it. With the stock player it's the same problem.
Does anybody else have this issue or know what to do about it? It was also mentioned in some german review, I don't really know which one anymore. I'd really like to have this fixed.

Does your brightness change all the time as well? Like I've watching something and the brightness seems to change all the time, it's very subtle but really annoying.

Hmm, not really. With mxplayer the brightness stays pretty much on one low level. Even at 15, which should mean full brightness, and would be very bright on other apps.
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Dr. lele said:
The screen brightness of the One is absolutely nice, and even with power saver settings on it is bright enough for me when playing games, looking at pictures and browsing the web.
But when watching videos on it, which I expected to be awesome due to the great dispay, I was very disappointed. The brightness of the movie itself is very low. I often have to crank up brightness to the max with MxPlayer to enjoy watching it. With the stock player it's the same problem.
Does anybody else have this issue or know what to do about it? It was also mentioned in some german review, I don't really know which one anymore. I'd really like to have this fixed.
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It's like I've said before, the htc one is over saturated and while that may look nice at ui level, it throws up issues elsewhere, especially video playback and gaming graphics. There's a reason why Samsung keeps toning down the colour levels with each new model and why Sony stepped away from over saturation completely. The troubles it creates when watching videos and playing games isn't worth the colorful ui you get in return
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zodiac100 said:
It's like I've said before, the htc one is over saturated and while that may look nice at ui level, it throws up issues elsewhere, especially video playback and gaming graphics. There's a reason why Samsung keeps toning down the colour levels with each new model and why Sony stepped away from over saturation completely. The troubles it creates when watching videos and playing games isn't worth the colorful ui you get in return
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How is it over saturated? Amoled displays are much more saturated, and this display has much better colours than my washed out Nexus 4.

zodiac100 said:
It's like I've said before, the htc one is over saturated and while that may look nice at ui level, it throws up issues elsewhere, especially video playback and gaming graphics. There's a reason why Samsung keeps toning down the colour levels with each new model and why Sony stepped away from over saturation completely. The troubles it creates when watching videos and playing games isn't worth the colorful ui you get in return
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This would be true if the brightness of games and videos where the same level. They aren't. In games everything is visible and clear but in videos (on the same brightness level) I can't see much.

Black crush....again?!?

After struggling with my S9+ and it's black crush problem (I returned it for this reason) I did really hoped N9 doesn't have such a problem.
Well, yesterday I tried my brand new N9 with Netflix (Luke Cage S2) and there's definitely a black crush issue!!!! Anyone else noticed?

Aratheba said:
After struggling with my S9+ and it's black crush problem (I returned it for this reason) I did really hoped N9 doesn't have such a problem.
Well, yesterday I tried my brand new N9 with Netflix (Luke Cage S2) and there's definitely a black crush issue!!!! Anyone else noticed?
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is it anything like orange crush?
jokes aside, what is a black crush again?

He is in love with Luke Cage. I kind of have a crush on Rosario Dawson. ???

What is black crush?!?!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/colour-blending-blacks-problem-t3765385
...or....just use google!
https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-screen-problem-black-crush-854724/
https://www.sammobile.com/news/some-galaxy-s9-displays-suffer-black-crush-color-banding-issues
Last night I tried some more test together with my OP6 and sadly I can confirm it! You can see in the attached files, the upper phone is the Note 9 while the lower one is the OP6. Both phone are on 50% screen brightness. The Note 9 has even the Video Enhancement enabled and I tried all the screen settings (adaptive, cinema amoled, pitcure amoled and basic) without any positive result. I took these pictures with my iPhone X and I can tell you for sure that the problem is even more evident in person!

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Yes, unfortunately, I am experiencing the black crush problem on my Verizon variant. I also experienced this problem with my previous T-Mobile Note 9. The screen calibration app from the Play Store does help, but for a phone this pricey, this software quality control problem is unacceptable.

bensonnicol said:
Yes, unfortunately, I am experiencing the black crush problem on my Verizon variant. I also experienced this problem with my previous T-Mobile Note 9. The screen calibration app from the Play Store does help, but for a phone this pricey, this software quality control problem is unacceptable.
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YES. That’s why I returned it. It’s incredible even considering that S9 had exactly the same problem when it was released. I really did think this time samsung could take care of it....but I was wrong.
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Mine's going back today. And, unfortunately, I'm giving up on Samsung with these phones. It's too bad, beacuse everything else has been stellar, but my typical use case makes for this problem to be too significant and too frequent to overlook ?.

Aratheba said:
What is black crush?!?!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/colour-blending-blacks-problem-t3765385
...or....just use google!
https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-screen-problem-black-crush-854724/
https://www.sammobile.com/news/some-galaxy-s9-displays-suffer-black-crush-color-banding-issues
Last night I tried some more test together with my OP6 and sadly I can confirm it! You can see in the attached files, the upper phone is the Note 9 while the lower one is the OP6. Both phone are on 50% screen brightness. The Note 9 has even the Video Enhancement enabled and I tried all the screen settings (adaptive, cinema amoled, pitcure amoled and basic) without any positive result. I took these pictures with my iPhone X and I can tell you for sure that the problem is even more evident in person!
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Can you share the episode number so i can compare my display with the pics you took. I think mines is dark but don't know if its that dark

mickeyleah said:
Can you share the episode number so i can compare my display with the pics you took. I think mines is dark but don't know if its that dark
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I don’t remember the episode number. It should be one at the end of the season. Anyway, you can see it by yourself that is dark. With such a problem when you look in a dark part of a scene (for instance someone's hair) you just see a black mess with no details in it. [emoji20]
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cant you guys just slide the brightness slider a tad to the right?
or just remove auto brightness?

I don't think that having screen to 100% is the solution...
bober10113 said:
cant you guys just slide the brightness slider a tad to the right?
or just remove auto brightness?
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Aratheba said:
I don't think that having screen to 100% is the solution...
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not exactly what i said either.
does removing auto brightness and adjusting it a bit more help?
because it just seems that's the issue.
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i did tests with the note 9, note 8, and note 3
while there are slight differences between each device nothing like the pictures you posted.
all screens had auto brightness at off and brightness at 50 percent which was more than enough.
lets not forget 50% on a samsung and 50% in another brand might not have the same intensity/range.
and something obvious but i feel i must add in this case is that samsung phones when video is paused will auto dimm the screen a couple seconds after playback is halted.
in order to do your tests i figure you also paused playback. i just hope you didn't take pictures of when it was dimmed... because lol well that would be dimwitted.
when i compare one phone dimmed and one not dimmed i get the exact same results as your pictures. a brief touch of the screen restores normal brightness.

I have a little black crush on mine. But some people forget we are watching stuff on a mobile device that is packaged for small screens. The video is compressed and sometimes even the data.
I made sure to watch some high quality content, not just 1080p or 4k. Dim and well lit content. Also, a wide variety of YouTube videos. I experienced some black crush and many times brightening the luxury of the screen helped. To conserve battery some content I don't need to see all the details. Other times I knew it was compression compressing all the colors and shades out it.
The best way to test for black crush are contrasty pictures. I see many of the complaints about videos but sometimes it can't be helped as I'll watch the same content (same exact file for scientific reasons) on my JS9500 which is semi calibrated and Bam! there it is still. I've tested some with the camera and sometimes I will have slight black crush in darker pictures but it would be a challenging picture anyways. Sometimes black crush is non contrasty dark content and/or compression and codecs.

Aratheba said:
I don’t remember the episode number. It should be one at the end of the season. Anyway, you can see it by yourself that is dark. With such a problem when you look in a dark part of a scene (for instance someone's hair) you just see a black mess with no details in it. [emoji20]
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Now that i looked through a few episodes and even looking at the defenders since it had some pretty dark scenes i dont think i have black crush. I compared it to my iphone and the picture (black wise) is much better on the note.

bober10113 said:
not exactly what i said either.
does removing auto brightness and adjusting it a bit more help?
because it just seems that's the issue.
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i did tests with the note 9, note 8, and note 3
while there are slight differences between each device nothing like the pictures you posted.
all screens had auto brightness at off and brightness at 50 percent which was more than enough.
lets not forget 50% on a samsung and 50% in another brand might not have the same intensity/range.
and something obvious but i feel i must add in this case is that samsung phones when video is paused will auto dimm the screen a couple seconds after playback is halted.
in order to do your tests i figure you also paused playback. i just hope you didn't take pictures of when it was dimmed... because lol well that would be dimwitted.
when i compare one phone dimmed and one not dimmed i get the exact same results as your pictures. a brief touch of the screen restores normal brightness.
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You can see what you want to see. I don't care.
If you want to believe that I took pictures of two phones letting one dim itself just to waste my time here writing this post...well do it.
I owned all Samsung phones since the first galaxy...let alone the many other phones I owned...S9 plus and Note 9 have such an issue. I read that S9 was updated back in may to solve it (although some say it's not solved at all). I don't feel like waiting 3 months to see maybe this problem solved. I paid a lot of money for note 9 and as I did for S9+ I decided to return it for this reason. Nor I feel like crancking all the way up brightness just to be able to see some details in dark areas nor even up to 60 nor 70% (thus you feel better?!?) when my other phones don't have such an issue (nor even my s8+ and note8).
Maybe for someone else this is not a problem, especially if they don't use the phone to watch movies or series on Netflix or other streaming services. I do. And I don't waste a thousand euros for something that won't let me see a decent image quality.
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Aratheba said:
You can see what you want to see. I don't care.
If you want to believe that I took pictures of two phones letting one dim itself just to waste my time here writing this post...well do it.
I owned all Samsung phones since the first galaxy...let alone the many other phones I owned...S9 plus and Note 9 have such an issue. I read that S9 was updated back in may to solve it (although some say it's not solved at all). I don't feel like waiting 3 months to see maybe this problem solved. I paid a lot of money for note 9 and as I did for S9+ I decided to return it for this reason. Nor I feel like crancking all the way up brightness just to be able to see some details in dark areas nor even up to 60 nor 70% (thus you feel better?!?) when my other phones don't have such an issue (nor even my s8+ and note8).
Maybe for someone else this is not a problem, especially if they don't use the phone to watch movies or series on Netflix or other streaming services. I do. And I don't waste a thousand euros for something that won't let me see a decent image quality.
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All I heard was Charlie Brown's mom whining. Lol @ expecting cream of the crop display abilities on a monitor that fits in your pocket. Enjoy your first world problems.

@rbiter said:
I have a little black crush on mine. But some people forget we are watching stuff on a mobile device that is packaged for small screens. The video is compressed and sometimes even the data.
I made sure to watch some high quality content, not just 1080p or 4k. Dim and well lit content. Also, a wide variety of YouTube videos. I experienced some black crush and many times brightening the luxury of the screen helped. To conserve battery some content I don't need to see all the details. Other times I knew it was compression compressing all the colors and shades out it.
The best way to test for black crush are contrasty pictures. I see many of the complaints about videos but sometimes it can't be helped as I'll watch the same content (same exact file for scientific reasons) on my JS9500 which is semi calibrated and Bam! there it is still. I've tested some with the camera and sometimes I will have slight black crush in darker pictures but it would be a challenging picture anyways. Sometimes black crush is non contrasty dark content and/or compression and codecs.
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Oh well....my others mobile devices packed for small screen don't have such an issue. And I can watch whatever I want...but one has it and the other one doesn't.
There cannot be compression when we are talking about the same video on two different phones one showing the issue while the other one don't. I mean I even posted pictures showing the issue. And believe me when I tell you that they don't make justice to the real difference between the two devices....it was really worst in person. I don't need to be convinced of the contrary thanks.
Maybe the most clever way to answer could be "sorry pal, you got a lemon". I cannot exclude it (although after owning S9+ with the same issue I'm a bit suspicious about it). But no settings nor codec nor compression.
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@rbiter said:
All I heard was Charlie Brown's mom whining. Lol @ expecting cream of the crop display abilities on a monitor that fits in your pocket. Enjoy your first world problems.
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Grow up boy.
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Lol. Drinking orange crush and Bombay Sapphire.

that brightness slider must be really heavy. wonder which is more difficult:
- moan about it and return the device
or
- move it 1/4 of an inch to the right. (that's 6.4 millimeters to you)
so can you take a picture of the same scenario as before but with a bit more brightness? its for science
now take an other picture of both phones maxed out. its for the win

hdr video in youtube flickering

I have been watching hdr video in YouTube and my note 9 has been flickering between normal brightness and the the boosted brightness that usually occurs when you watch hdr video. My note 9 is the Verizon model on the most recent firmware as of 8/27/18. Does anyone else have this problem?

Seems to be an issue with Auto brightness.
Manually set max brightness and disable auto and the flickering stopped for me.
Looks like a minor bug in either the youtube app or the internal HDR handling.
Doesnt always do it to me though, i've switched to Youtube Vanced as my main youtube and i havent seen it do it.

dee32181 said:
I have been watching hdr video in YouTube and my note 9 has been flickering between normal brightness and the the boosted brightness that usually occurs when you watch hdr video. My note 9 is the Verizon model on the most recent firmware as of 8/27/18. Does anyone else have this problem?
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Same here. I was watching that Peru video in 60fps on YouTube in a low lit room and the brightness would go up and down, made me sick. I turned off auto brightness and it helped a little . Also if I put my phone down flat it stops flickering.
https://youtu.be/1La4QzGeaaQ
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Like this
https://youtu.be/JuzEdR3A78w

corallus said:
Like this
https://youtu.be/JuzEdR3A78w
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Yes Sir, just like that.
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Phew, just tried it on my T-Mobile variant. Nary a flicker on 4k HDR 60 FPS video.

Semantics said:
Phew, just tried it on my T-Mobile variant. Nary a flicker on 4k HDR 60 FPS video.
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I don't get any flickering either unless using auto brightness in a dark room.
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Limeybastard said:
I don't get any flickering either unless using auto brightness in a dark room.
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Ah okay. I don't use auto brightness. When the HDR video starts, my screen brightness jumps up because I keep it at 50% but the video plays without flicker in both dark and light areas.

Semantics said:
Ah okay. I don't use auto brightness. When the HDR video starts, my screen brightness jumps up because I keep it at 50% but the video plays without flicker in both dark and light areas.
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Exactly, well said. It's the nature of beast. I normally don't watch videos so when I did last night in a dim lit room I was like a little shocked , but came to learn it's normal.
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I have AT&T and get random flickering when I am on YouTube.

I get this too!!! Was panicking when it happened as I've had a nightmare with my last 2 notes now, including the note 7 and i just couldn't believe my luck!! I was thinking it was faulty hardware and I'd have to exchange it which i really don't want to do as I've just got the thing after such a long and convoluted story with my phone's over the last 1 2 years...
Is this problem resolve then guys or what!?!? The last reply guy in this thread is talking absolute bollocks..... This is NOT normal or "the nature of the ****ing beast" is completely wrong and ****ed up..... Needs fixing!!! (By the way, don't take it personally last guy comment, just frustrated and talking about hardware on a phone, nothing personal)

Same here, the screen is flickering when watching HDR videos in the dark. Auto brightness on/off doesn't change anything, still flickers. In daylight no problem.

yeap, noticed it too watching a video in a very dark room when I got my Note 9 on the 6th of September. i sent them feedback via the Samsung members app but they just sent some generic response back. Seems to go away when the light sensor is covered with a finger.

Yes, here too, but only in a dark room.

fletchy88 said:
I get this too!!! Was panicking when it happened as I've had a nightmare with my last 2 notes now, including the note 7 and i just couldn't believe my luck!! I was thinking it was faulty hardware and I'd have to exchange it which i really don't want to do as I've just got the thing after such a long and convoluted story with my phone's over the last 1 2 years...
Is this problem resolve then guys or what!?!? The last reply guy in this thread is talking absolute bollocks..... This is NOT normal or "the nature of the ****ing beast" is completely wrong and ****ed up..... Needs fixing!!! (By the way, don't take it personally last guy comment, just frustrated and talking about hardware on a phone, nothing personal)
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Alright,ok... SMH.
Download the video in question and play it with the Samsung video app or MX player and see if it flickers or not.
Also there are many posts about about this not unique to just Samsung or the note 9, Google " hdr video flickering" , good luck .
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Limeybastard said:
Alright,ok... SMH.
Download the video in question and play it with the Samsung video app or MX player and see if it flickers or not.
Also there are many posts about about this not unique to just Samsung or the note 9, Google " hdr video flickering" , good luck .
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So... As always online, you never get the answer you're looking for...
You don't actually say what you mean... So, are you saying the problem is a YouTube app problem/bug? Or what...... What is it

Are you guys using a screen protector as some seem to interfere with the auto brightness I had the same problem on my so plus and on the xperia xz premium I took the screen protectors off and it seemed to stop

It has to be the YouTube app as I've been watching 4k HDR 60fps using chrome desktop mode and no signs of flickering

No Issues on My AT&T Note9 at all just tried 6 different HDR and works perfectly!
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No Issues on My AT&T Note9 at all just tried 6 different HDR and works perfectly!
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I Am using YouTube Vanced thought https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-youtube-vanced-edition-t3758757

Venom0642 said:
No Issues on My AT&T Note9 at all just tried 6 different HDR and works perfectly!
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I Am using YouTube Vanced thought https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-youtube-vanced-edition-t3758757
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Same hear also using vanced all working great