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Seriously can't work this one out, do I get my screen changed or not?
Should I wait to see if ICS makes it any better?
This phone is perfect for me except this issue with the blacks / greys. Even when i zoom in on dark parts of pictures taken with the phones camera it turns into a pixelated mess, so this is defiantly not a low quality source issue, its hardware or software related, but which?
Advice please guys. Many thanks!
I know! Right?
The screen Is freaking awesome, simply the best on any smartphone, but why those blacks haven't been fixed yet???
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I really am at a loss to what you guys are complaining about. I'm either not that fussy, or deluded to the fact that what I think I am seeing as 'bad' I pass off as something else.
From what I've read around the forums, what should be a shaded series of greys/blacks in an area are appearing as blocks of black/darkgrey instead of a gradual change.
I've always thought this was down to how videos/images where compressed or decompressed and displayed - which would almost certainly be software and not hardware?
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I really am at a loss to what you guys are complaining about. I'm either not that fussy, or deluded to the fact that what I think I am seeing as 'bad' I pass off as something else.
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Same here. My blacks look fine most of the time. When I do get grey blockiness I'm pretty sure it's due to poor compression in the video file, because other videos, large black areas look fine.
Can anyone give a link to a video available online in which this problem occurs (and the point in the video we should be looking at).
Maybe then we can get some objective testing with everyone using the same source file.
Maybe even have people doing screenshots to compare screens.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366014&page=4
I'm rarely using my phone in dark enough conditions to notice.
ICS should improve gradients, but won't fix the black crush if it is indeed a problem with the screen hardware.
I am probably going to regret this, as my Note was perfect except for this black crush issue, but I sent mine back to be replaced. And the issue was not just on videos for me so poor quality encodes are not the problem, I was getting it even with pictures taken with the phones camera. Said pictures taken with the Note displayed fine on my pc and my wifes Galaxy s 2, so it is deffo a problem with the device.
Please lets not turn this into another "who cares" or "its not that noticeable" debate like the other threads, all I am aiming at with this thread from now is to find out if there are any Notes in existence that do not have this issue!
Thanks.
I refuse to look for a problem that is not there.....
There is no phone or portable device in existence that is color accurate, either tonally or temperature or gamma correct out of the box, and to expect such is to be, well, expecting quite a bit too much.
Why do i make that statement?.. Well, given that a monitor or TV at ANY price are not accurately calibrated.
To get an accurately calibrated monitor requires a display worth using, then a color tone/temperature/gamma calibration system (which is ~$200 & up) and software that can use the resulting calibration profiles...
The SGN is a phone... tbh there is no "fault" or "problem" here, other than unrealistic customer expectations...
Would a settings app that could set globally set color temp & gamma be helpful? sure.. there is enough color temp variation in the spread of production tolerances in phone to make this useful... stop a ll the pink white /blue white issues
But will it make the SGN a color accurate display?.. no.
So... lets wave a magic wand and make it so... whats the point? the camera does not justify it, the movies you watch are overly compressed and not color accurate (never mind compression artifacts of banding, blocking and shading), youtube videos have no quality controls.. online TV, website videos and stills have major color saturation issues.. so what content will you access that is going to be useable on a color accurate display?..
well, 4 beers down and 2c more spent..
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I refuse to look for a problem that is not there.....
There is no phone or portable device in existence that is color accurate, either tonally or temperature or gamma correct out of the box, and to expect such is to be, well, expecting quite a bit too much.
Why do i make that statement?.. Well, given that a monitor or TV at ANY price are not accurately calibrated.
To get an accurately calibrated monitor requires a display worth using, then a color tone/temperature/gamma calibration system (which is ~$200 & up) and software that can use the resulting calibration profiles...
The SGN is a phone... tbh there is no "fault" or "problem" here, other than unrealistic customer expectations...
Would a settings app that could set globally set color temp & gamma be helpful? sure.. there is enough color temp variation in the spread of production tolerances in phone to make this useful... stop a ll the pink white /blue white issues
But will it make the SGN a color accurate display?.. no.
So... lets wave a magic wand and make it so... whats the point? the camera does not justify it, the movies you watch are overly compressed and not color accurate (never mind compression artifacts of banding, blocking and shading), youtube videos have no quality controls.. online TV, website videos and stills have major color saturation issues.. so what content will you access that is going to be useable on a color accurate display?..
well, 4 beers down and 2c more spent..
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Dude, my pc plays / displays these movies and images fine with no artifacts, as does my tv, as does my partners Galaxy s 2, as does my Nexus s, so how can you say that there is no problem?
Anyway, I just had a look at my cousins Galaxy Note and that one is playing these movies fine, and is displaying the pictures taken with my Note without the chess board effect, so if you are happy to pay over £400 for a defective device thats up to you, but many of us expect to get what we paid for.
I just found this on you tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8aIGeLERg many people find this a problem.
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I just found this on you tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8aIGeLERg many people find this a problem.
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I agree with you it is a problem and even supercurio has been on it and he is a developer so someting isnt right so lets hope it gets fixed cause many people suffer with it
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I just found this on you tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8aIGeLERg many people find this a problem.
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The problem is clear enough to see there, but it's not one I've ever noticed on my Note. I just tried playing this YouTube clip on my Note....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syxd2n8S4AE
and could see nothing wrong with the video performance in a darkened (curtains drawn during daytime) room. I wonder how well this clip plays for other people on the Note.
I made a video of the Note playing this clip and I'm uploading it at the moment. It will take a while (81 minutes remaining at the moment) as I shot in 1080p. I'll post a link when it's ready.
FWIW I'm on the latest official ROM and my phone was sourced from Germany in early November. From my perspective there is no problem, which might make it quite hard for Samsung to fix.
My Note is running on ICS (CM9) and the color rendering is substantially improved over stock GB. Gradients are smoother and blacks are rendered cleaner.
My video is up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl0SKxnqa2I
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My video is up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl0SKxnqa2I
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I've played the same clip on my Note and it looks exactly like yours, no banding/crushing/clipping whatsoever.
I've tried a lot of Youtube clips and movie trailers but in only one of them I could see obvious artefacts during a fade out. I played the same clip on my pc and saw the same thing happen there so that's probably just lousy encoding.
Thanks for putting that video up, I hope my replacement looks like yours, its due tomorrow.
I got me new note, this one is set to uk language instead of german like the one I returned. It has the exact same issue, drops from 4 grey to 3 complete black and i am still getting the clipping, bloody Samsung, this was meant to be an upgrade from my nexus s, but most stuff looks better on that! Not gonna excahnge again, I will wait for ICS and see if Samsung actually acknowledge the issue.
@Mystic38. Whilst I agree with you that most consumer devices don't come calibrated to industry standards and that most consumer devices lack the essential settings found on the most basic of professional displays, I fail to see how any colour, contrast, hue, gamma or brightness calibration would affect the overall appearance, unless of course you are cranking the settings beyond anything useful and crushing the dynamics intentionally.
It's difficult to introduce visual banding or blocking in high BIT rate video or lightly compressed images by tweaking settings and calibration by a couple of percent alone, as there are near on 17 million colours. This leaves thousands of grey levels to play with and the human eye shouldn't notice banding or blocking with that many greys.
This presumably points to an issue with the way that video is presented to the screen driver or how the screen driver drives the screen. There's probably an issue with crushing where the hardware converts the digital signal to electronic levels of each AMOLED element. I have seen this problem on other devices, not just phones and most of the time it was rectified after a software upgrade.
Another thing to remember is that companies like Samsung are fully aware and accommodating of the fact that a lot of people now use these types of phones as monitors for photography and video production as I do. I use DSLR Controller and have no problem with crushing. Using the phone as a monitor has been extremely helpful and negated the expense of something which would have cost over 10 times the price.
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I just got round to trying the ,png gamma test file on my Note. It fails the test. Everything below 4 is black and as you go through the numbers from 4 and above there are bands grouping four levels into one tone. Worse still, the tones alternate from greenish to purple instead of being shades of grey. Interestingly if I perform a screen capture the capture is a true reflection of what I see, which implies to me that the Note is actually sending bad values to the screen rather than a hardware problem, because surely the screen capture only cares about the data, not the physical appearance produced.
Looking at the same file on my laptop everything is presented correctly, so obviously the file is not the problem.
Yet despite failing this test I have never noticed a problem with the Note to cause me concern in normal every day use.
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I just got round to trying the ,png gamma test file on my Note. It fails the test. Everything below 4 is black and as you go through the numbers from 4 and above there are bands grouping four levels into one tone. Worse still, the tones alternate from greenish to purple instead of being shades of grey. Interestingly if I perform a screen capture the capture is a true reflection of what I see, which implies to me that the Note is actually sending bad values to the screen rather than a hardware problem, because surely the screen capture only cares about the data, not the physical appearance produced.
Looking at the same file on my laptop everything is presented correctly, so obviously the file is not the problem.
Yet despite failing this test I have never noticed a problem with the Note to cause me concern in normal every day use.
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Have you viewed it in the gallery or in a browser? With my Note everything below 4 is crushed in the stock ICS browser but I can see everything in the gallery.
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Have you viewed it in the gallery or in a browser? With my Note everything below 4 is crushed in the stock ICS browser but I can see everything in the gallery.
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I think the gallery uses a different color gradient and temperature than the stock ICS browser, much as if you view a rich encoded black contrast video on the stock video player and on a custom app video player like MX player... you get varying results...
I think this issue is a mix of both a hardware and software one, and though the Official ICS upgrade "might" alleviate this problem, I surely believe also that since this is a combination of a hardware problem, the clippings are still there but perhaps not quite noticeable anymore....
After watching a YouTube video from the app and I go back to the home screen everything is over exposed. the only fix I found was to lock and unlock the screen again. Anyone else having this problem?
I had noticed this once before when using Google Now but I wasn't aware what had caused it. At first I thought it was just the screen but now that I tested it with a youtube video you're right. When it screws up the colors it is really bad looking in Google Now because GNow relies on such a subtle distinction of colors, like the grey on grey. When the screen is working normally is looks fine but after a youtube video it looks really bad, the two greys meshing together. I'm really glad it's just some software issue. I remember looking at the screen once and thinking man those are some bad colors but the screen is really pretty nice when it's working properly.
Yes i do notice the same thing hoping Google comes with an update fast glad to know is not just me
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fingers crossed it's a software problem only...
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ya, I can confirm this happening with mine too. Didn't know that a lock/unlock fixed it (until a software fix at least). thanks
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manually adjusting your brightness seems to help
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Most videos does this to my Nexus 7.
Probably Nvidia PRISM power saving failing to shut off. Annoying. Software update should fix it.
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I don't see this issue on stock. Return to stock and see if it goes away.
mi7chy said:
I don't see this issue on stock. Return to stock and see if it goes away.
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I'm on stock, not rooted, 4.1.1, and getting this issue usually after watching YouTube or other videos
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I'm curious, I'm not seeing any of this and am wondering if you guys are running your screens at full brightness or something.
I have my N7 set to auto most of the time and am not seeing these types of contrast issues.
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My Nexus is stock (but unlocked and rooted). I run my Nexus 7 almost all the time at 40% brightness.
I get this over exposed looked after playing most videos. Happens with YouTube, Play Movies, Gallery, pretty much any videos from any source. Turning the screen off and on works. Or I could just wait an minute and watch the screen gradually fade back to normal-ish.
This isn't my only issue though. My screen also seems to be poorly calibrated. Even without the video playback issue, some of my colors are faded, and whites are over saturated all the time.
Don't know if the two issues are related, but I'm going to try exchanging it because some people say theirs doesn't have these issues.
PS. I don't use auto brightness, that makes my screen way too dark (seems my auto brightness setting keeps my Nexus 7 at minimum brightness most of the time).
I have this issue (as well as minor screen separation), but can't replicate it consistently.
I just assumed it was the screen just 'waking up' from full screen mode, it usually goes to normal after about a minute.
Rarely i see a minor screen flicker/ or tearing (sortof like oldschool CRT television flicker on a few scan lines) during this 'recovery'
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I'm on stock, not rooted, 4.1.1, and getting this issue usually after watching YouTube or other videos
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Interesting now that we're on level playing field. Do you have auto-brightness or hard set?
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Interesting now that we're on level playing field. Do you have auto-brightness or hard set?
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nope. brightness set to around 25%. like others, I can't always replicate but it usually happens after watching videos. locking and unlocking the device immediately restores normal contrast. This is the only semi issue i have on my n7. it doesn't even bother me that much, knowing it's a simple recovery
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I don't see this issue on stock. Return to stock and see if it goes away.
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the problem lies within the software. perhaps you're a lucky one who is somehow avoiding this problem or you don't notice the problem yet.
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I have the same issue with my N7. Android 4.1.1 completely stock, out of the box. It seems to be a problem with the hardware decoder as using software in MX player does not seem to trigger it, but the gallery player does. I see this not just after video playback, but around 5 seconds after starting playback when I begin to notice I'm losing so many details in highlights. A white contrast test on www.lagom.nl clearly shows the horrible detail level. I hope they fix it soon.
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the problem lies within the software. perhaps you're a lucky one who is somehow avoiding this problem or you don't notice the problem yet.
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I have the same problem but how are you so sure that it is software problem. If it is a software problem then why do you get a screen shot showing no problem when in reality you can see it on your screen that you are indeed having problem on your screen at this very moment.
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Another thing is that it only happens if you watch video in full screen. If you watch YouTube video not in full screen i.e. in portrait then there is no problem of over exposed colors.
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Another thing is that it only happens if you watch video in full screen. If you watch YouTube video not in full screen i.e. in portrait then there is no problem of over exposed colors.
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Does it occur if you watch the free Transformer movie? Just curious since it doesn't for me.
check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGQ49MOIlcA
another here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ncrd6DOIA
Nothing special, to be honest. As mentioned in one of the comments under the video, he should have had the camera straight over the phones at the 90 degrees angle and set brightness equally. To me it doesn't seem as if the brightness was set equally... But maybe that's only me.
Aside from that, the screen was displaying everything totally properly I would say. I was a bit worried though about some greenish colour when the Nexus was in the Chrome browser. But that can also be only me.
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Nothing special, to be honest. As mentioned in one of the comments under the video, he should have had the camera straight over the phones at the 90 degrees angle and set brightness equally. To me it doesn't seem as if the brightness was set equally... But maybe that's only me.
Aside from that, the screen was displaying everything totally properly I would say. I was a bit worried though about some greenish colour when the Nexus was in the Chrome browser. But that can also be only me.
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i agree with this.
the second video is better,90 degrees angle for both.
I hope kernel devs will modify display gamma for a bit more saturated colors,as the one X and iphone 5 :good:
And in the second video the GS3 screen was way too vivid, my eyes hurt But I guess it's just a thing you can get accustomed to, AMOLED screen that is.
Overall, Nexus seems pretty color - accurate to me. As soon as I get mine, I'll definitely post some RAW photos from my DSLR so you guys will be able to truly compare them to others. I think it would be a good idea though to post some decent RAW photos and let the community judge. Simple but effective.
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check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGQ49MOIlcA
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Very nice but I sure wish I knew what the hell he was saying.
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another here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ncrd6DOIA
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Not sure if it is just me but this video quality was horrendous. Both displays looked awful. I am not sure what he was using for a video camera but for a display comparison I think he needs something better.
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They all look good to me, you cannot go wrong with any screen. People can keep comparing under a camera lens and through the bias of their own monitor, however if you had any of these phones without all the others to compare then you'd be happy.
Personally I prefer OLED because of the black levels but tbh I don't care all that much.
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Both displays looked great but you could tell that the Nexus had better colour reproduction and the whites were a lot better as well. S3 definitely seems to have some sort of a hue when it comes to producing whites. In the video he played the black levels looked pretty close.
Must be my display then.. the first video looked great but the second one was no good. I could not get a real great view. I will watch again later using my next 7.
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Must be my display then.. the first video looked great but the second one was no good. I could not get a real great view. I will watch again later using my next 7.
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I think you just didn't watch the video long enough. It starts off horrible and I was about to stop the video. But it becomes really clear around the time he starts comparing the snake heads.
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I think you just didn't watch the video long enough. It starts off horrible and I was about to stop the video. But it becomes really clear around the time he starts comparing the snake heads.
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Thanks, I will try again. I watched about half and gave up.
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I was shocked at how washed out the Nexus 4 display looked to me when I first got it.
I don't notice it at all now - the display is beautiful. The iPhone 5 display appears to be of better overall quality, but I'll take the N4s screen size any day.
From the website:
"SVP allows you to watch any video on your PC file with frame interpolation (like you can watch it on high-end TVs and projectors). It increases frame rate by generating intermediate animation frames between existing ones to produce very smooth, fluid and clear motion. The technology is well-known for a while ("TrimensionDNM", "Motion Plus", "Motionflow" and others), but now it's available for free to PC users with simple GUI and just a couple of mouse clicks.
SVP provides GPU acceleration and it's possible to watch FullHD 1080p-video recalculated to 60Hz in real-time with mid-range CPU and almost any GPU hardware.
SVP actually is not a video player itself, but it enables almost any player to play smooth video."
I've been using this for a few days now and have been blown away by it. The initial kneejerk reaction when using it for the first time is that it's a little odd. We're so used to seeing video played back at the same low frame rates that we've had for decades that it takes a little time for the brain to adapt. For the first couple of hours of using it myself i had no intention of keeping it installed. After the second day of using it you couldn't pay me to go back to watching low frame rate video again! It's a night and day difference.
I could go on being effusive but you really need to try it yourselves to make your own minds up. All i would say is use it for a couple of days. You'll be impressed. The SVP package includes, and is preconfigured for MPC-HC. It does work with other players too though. I would recommend installing the full package using the default settings, ensuring that you've removed any other instances of MPC, Codecs and Filters first. And you do need reasonably decent hardware to run it well too.
Playing back a 1080 video uses 40% on all cores with my 3770K and 25% on my GTX570. I for one am actually glad to have something to run on a daily basis that justifies having spent money on good hardware though. Today i've watched a selection of HD movies and sport and each time it's taken my breath away how life-like everything appears. The clarity and immersion is incredible.
Here are some more links about SVP and HFR video:
Guru3D
Short Wikipedia entry
Interactive Demo
Demo Videos
Here are two short clips from Sons Of Anarchy. The first is normal framerate and the second at 60fps:
Original
HFR
The difference should be immediately obvious watching those two clips. If it's your first time watching HFR playback you might have experienced what people call the 'soap opera effect'. I know i did. That's what takes getting used to, but you soon do. It's LFR video that looks wrong to me now!
The flip side to using Frame Interpolation is artifacting. I found it intolerable with the default SVP settings, but setting 'Artifacts Masking' to 'Strongest' in each Profile has almost completely eliminated it for me. I might notice it once or twice during an entire movie only using that setting. Beside that, you might want to select the option for running SVP at Windows Startup and disabling the SVP On Screen Display too.
It's a profound change. James Cameron and Peter Jackson say it's the future of film. I would agree. Give it a go and see for yourselves.
Sounds pretty awesome. I'll give it a try and see if I like it.
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Sounds pretty awesome. I'll give it a try and see if I like it.
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It's not an audio clip that it sounds good it looks good
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Is it free?
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It's not an audio clip that it sounds good it looks good
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I know what it is.
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I know what it is.
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Lets be straight you were wrong firstly stop promoting amazon on aliens private chat forum
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Is there a tl;dr version?
jaszek said:
Is there a tl;dr version?
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No its a super boost mod for space ship DX-164B
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Is it free?
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I know its tl; dr but at least read the first paragraph.
I'm watching live sport at normal framerate right now and it looks like a stuttering, jittery mess. Once you go HFR, you can't go back.
Ok I read it now. Soap Opera for me, and trust me, I wont get used to it. I like watching my video at 24 - 30fps, the natural frame rate of the human eye.
Will give this a try, i am used to that effect on the TV already, it wont matter.
Aaand welcome back Dirk! Again!
Quoting wiki here "Thomas Edison said that 46 frames per second was the minimum: 'anything less will strain the eye.'"
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Ok I read it now. Soap Opera for me, and trust me, I wont get used to it. I like watching my video at 24 - 30fps, the natural frame rate of the human eye.
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Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.
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Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.
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My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.
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Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.
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I think I read somewhere, that when compared to video, we see at 30fps. Not saying that we DO see at 30fps, but that's what the video equivalent would be. That's why watching 29.95fps (most) movies they have a natural feel to them, and with something like The Hobbit with 50fps, most critics hated it, and said the 25fps version was much more pleasant to watch.
Yup Hobbit was 48fps..they are critics after all. I thought higher fps in 3D=less strain.
Anyway, I tried reading about this whole frame rate and eye thing yesterday night and gave up. Glad i didn't take up medicine in college...
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I think I read somewhere, that when compared to video, we see at 30fps. Not saying that we DO see at 30fps, but that's what the video equivalent would be. That's why watching 29.95fps (most) movies they have a natural feel to them, and with something like The Hobbit with 50fps, most critics hated it, and said the 25fps version was much more pleasant to watch.
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The human eye doesn't see in still frames, The reason why shooting at 24fps became standard was because first, it was just high enough to give a sequence of images a continuous look, while second being not so high that it became too expensive in celluloid costs.
As for The Hobbit. Remember the kneejerk reaction i mentioned? After a century of film being played back at 24fps we have become used to that. Of course it looks a little strange at first when seeing HFR for the first time. For most people, watching The Hobbit was the very first time they had been exposed to it. A lot of people conceded that by the end of the film they had not only grown accustomed to it, but also didn't notice it any more. It took all of a couple of hours for the soap opera effect to disappear for me too, as it does for everyone. As i said in the OP, you have to use it for a day.
Have a look at the Poll results on CNET. Most people liked the HFR version of The Hobbit btw:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57559560-221/poll-did-you-like-the-smoother-hfr-hobbit/
As i said before, i've used SVP all weekend on a variety of media and it is amazing. Once i had to watch something at normal speed after being adapted to HFR it really exposed the difference. LFR is a stuttering, blurry mess in comparison.
HFR is the future. James Cameron has already committed to it for his future projects. Most good quality HDTVs are released now with different implementations of Interpolation that people are getting used to using. SVP just brings that ability to the PC/HTPC. The same software also makes it possible to re-encode any movie you have made to 60fps ready for uploading or sharing, but improving the quality of them. Great for fast moving gameplay videos. The package also includes SVPTube, a nifty little app that lets you play back YouTube videos in real time with HFR applied to it. Pretty cool!
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My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.
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Ah that's the second naruto refrence I had to read today. Well I'll give it a try.
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Ichigo said:
My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.
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I used to be so into anime that i got it
This program is free though right?
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Alrite guys, I've planned to get the Z1 by this week and reading every thread here I only got one problem that is the Display, so I want to know how does the display looks like (only for owners of Z1) I want a straight and easy review (don't give any other information on viewing angles other than I asked) how is the display of Z1 head to head and also while watching videos and while playing some motion games does the screen fades out? like in games as real racing 3 we have to tilt display left/right only a bit to turn does the display gets bad or faded? ( I guess no it's a small tilt not some weird angles of using it) and specially is the display head to head great and better than the gs4 or htc one? (head to head only) don't need comment on viewing angles that they fade on huge tilt coz I am not an idiot to use it that way, watsoeva.
AndroidNoob22 said:
Alrite guys, I've planned to get the Z1 by this week and reading every thread here I only got one problem that is the Display, so I want to know how does the display looks like (only for owners of Z1) I want a straight and easy review (don't give any other information on viewing angles other than I asked) how is the display of Z1 head to head and also while watching videos and while playing some motion games does the screen fades out? like in games as real racing 3 we have to tilt display left/right only a bit to turn does the display gets bad or faded? ( I guess no it's a small tilt not some weird angles of using it) and specially is the display head to head great and better than the gs4 or htc one? (head to head only) don't need comment on viewing angles that they fade on huge tilt coz I am not an idiot to use it that way, watsoeva.
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I personally like SUPER AMOLED (read samsung devices' display) better, dipper and richer colors (black especially), I hope there will be a gamma adjustment tool for Z1 available soon.
AndroidNoob22 said:
Alrite guys, I've planned to get the Z1 by this week and reading every thread here I only got one problem that is the Display, so I want to know how does the display looks like (only for owners of Z1) I want a straight and easy review (don't give any other information on viewing angles other than I asked) how is the display of Z1 head to head and also while watching videos and while playing some motion games does the screen fades out? like in games as real racing 3 we have to tilt display left/right only a bit to turn does the display gets bad or faded? ( I guess no it's a small tilt not some weird angles of using it) and specially is the display head to head great and better than the gs4 or htc one? (head to head only) don't need comment on viewing angles that they fade on huge tilt coz I am not an idiot to use it that way, watsoeva.
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Good
Head on you will get
- Great colors, saturation
- Great at watching movies
- Great reading legibility at direct sunlight
- Great brightness
- Good contrast
Bad
- viewing angles. but you have to tilt more than 45 degrees to really notice the difference. playing real racing 3 is ok, does not distort the display.
- some units get yellow hue. but this is just a software bug, can be fixed by simply downloading an app in google play and adding a little more blue. or wait for a firmware update.
Vs S4 and Vs HTC One
- Z1 has better color, saturation. best at watching movies.
- S4 has better blacks and contrast and viewing angles. but bad brightness, literally can't use under the sunlight. also remember that Amoled deteriorate very fast (1 year, almost 10% loss)
- HTC one has better brightness, better contrast than Z1, best viewing angles.
Morlock O said:
Good
Head on you will get
- Great colors, saturation
- Great at watching movies
- Great reading legibility at direct sunlight
- Great brightness
- Good contrast
Bad
- viewing angles. but you have to tilt more than 45 degrees to really notice the difference. playing real racing 3 is ok, does not distort the display.
- some units get yellow hue. but this is just a software bug, can be fixed by simply downloading an app in google play and adding a little more blue. or wait for a firmware update.
Vs S4 and Vs HTC One
- Z1 has better color, saturation. best at watching movies.
- S4 has better blacks and contrast and viewing angles. but bad brightness, literally can't use under the sunlight. also remember that Amoled deteriorate very fast (1 year, almost 10% loss)
- HTC one has better brightness, better contrast than Z1, best viewing angles.
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This was a perfect answer, thanks man! I am not going to use my phone flat in my hand as only stupid people will do that, I just was intended to know if the display is good head-head and while on some games where motion is used (I was pretty sure it will be perfect) thanks again! :good: :good:
Morlock O said:
Good
Head on you will get
- Great colors, saturation
- Great at watching movies
- Great reading legibility at direct sunlight
- Great brightness
- Good contrast
Bad
- viewing angles. but you have to tilt more than 45 degrees to really notice the difference. playing real racing 3 is ok, does not distort the display.
- some units get yellow hue. but this is just a software bug, can be fixed by simply downloading an app in google play and adding a little more blue. or wait for a firmware update.
Vs S4 and Vs HTC One
- Z1 has better color, saturation. best at watching movies.
- S4 has better blacks and contrast and viewing angles. but bad brightness, literally can't use under the sunlight. also remember that Amoled deteriorate very fast (1 year, almost 10% loss)
- HTC one has better brightness, better contrast than Z1, best viewing angles.
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Everything you said it's true, but I myself saw a htc one with z1, I guess z1's screen was better with a great contrast and brightness and htc one's viewing angles, no one can win it, though it's just what my eyes saw that z1 had a better screen than any phone atm the moment in market has (head-head or even while gaming/watching vids) cant really say if others see the same