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I just got got a Nexus S (upgrade from Nexus One w00t! ) and I'm really interested in getting a skin for it. I'm looking specifically at buying a Wrapsol one since I've read that it doesn't have the orange peel effect. I'm just confused over the "ultra protective film" (UPF) and the "original scratch protection" (OSP) that they're selling. I know that the UPF is a dry application and is $30 while the OSP is $25. I've put on many screen protectors in my life before but this is gonna be my first entry into the world of skins. What's the main difference between a dry and wet application protector? What is the better choice? Thanks for your help!
The only difference between wet and dry applicator is pretty much just the method of putting it on. Some people are not comfortable with spraying liquid on their phone so dry applications may appeal to them. The problem I see with this is that unless you are super pro like the guy in the video, you're going to have a frustrating time applying a dry protection on a curvy device like the nexus s. You pretty much have one shot at aligning everything. With a wet application, you can moisten the adhesive and actually slide the film around to align the curves perfectly and slowly work your way through.
I'm not sure about the difference in texture. I've seen some degree of orange peel in all wet applications with zagg being the worst. I'm not sure if wrapsol is orange peel free either due to the nature of the scratch resistant material used to make these film. I believe they use polyurethane.
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I purchased a wrapsol protector for my s and honestly I regretted it the second I put it on. They said it stretches to fit the entire screen but it didn't and it doesn't have a hole for the front facing camera so images are blurry. I'm glad they have a 30 day money back return period cause this is going back as soon as my sgp protector comes.
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The only difference between wet and dry applicator is pretty much just the method of putting it on. Some people are not comfortable with spraying liquid on their phone so dry applications may appeal to them. The problem I see with this is that unless you are super pro like the guy in the video, you're going to have a frustrating time applying a dry protection on a curvy device like the nexus s. You pretty much have one shot at aligning everything. With a wet application, you can moisten the adhesive and actually slide the film around to align the curves perfectly and slowly work your way through.
I'm not sure about the difference in texture. I've seen some degree of orange peel in all wet applications with zagg being the worst. I'm not sure if wrapsol is orange peel free either due to the nature of the scratch resistant material used to make these film. I believe they use polyurethane.
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Thanks for the insightful response! One of the things that has scared me away from things like Zagg and other wet application skins is the fact that after a couple of days, weeks, or months, the skin starts to peel off off the corners. Is that still a problem with skins today? (I saw the peeling off the corners a couple of years ago from my friends' blackberries.) Or is that more of the user's fault? I heard that you should ceram-wrap the devise completely also while it's drying so that everything sticks. Is that true? Is there an effective way of applying the skin so that they don't peel off by themselves off corners over time?
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I purchased a wrapsol protector for my s and honestly I regretted it the second I put it on. They said it stretches to fit the entire screen but it didn't and it doesn't have a hole for the front facing camera so images are blurry. I'm glad they have a 30 day money back return period cause this is going back as soon as my sgp protector comes.
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Thanks for letting me know about the screen protector! I'm already planning on using a Clarivue screen protector. I'm more curious about the back and side protection itself. How were they? Did they have the orange peel effect? How did they feel like? Did you use the wet or dry one? How easy was it to apply? Lastly, did the skin ever start peeling off by itself?
Again, thanks for all of y'all's responses!
I personally use ghost armor and haven't experienced any peeling over a month now. The installation is crucial and patience is key. I wouldn't go so far as to ceram wrap the device. Just make sure you press on all edges and curves for 15 seconds or so once it begins to adhere to make sure it sticks permanently. Another tip is to lightly heat those areas with a hair dryer. It is very important that you keep your hands free, work in a lint free area, and let it dry for 24 hours. Don't put in your pocket for a day or two. The reason is because if dust accumulates on any part of the edge, it will lose adhesive there and make it prone to lifting or peeling. If you can get past the drying stage, then you shouldn't experience any peeling unless forced.
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peeturr said:
I personally use ghost armor and haven't experienced any peeling over a month now. The installation is crucial and patience is key. I wouldn't go so far as to ceram wrap the device. Just make sure you press on all edges and curves for 15 seconds or so once it begins to adhere to make sure it sticks permanently. Another tip is to lightly heat those areas with a hair dryer. It is very important that you keep your hands free, work in a lint free area, and let it dry for 24 hours. Don't put in your pocket for a day or two. The reason is because if dust accumulates on any part of the edge, it will lose adhesive there and make it prone to lifting or peeling. If you can get past the drying stage, then you shouldn't experience any peeling unless forced.
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Thanks! I'll definitely do what you suggested!
Well, I ended up ordering the Wrapsol wet application one. I'm just going to be using the back and side protection. I hope this goes well....
I've done both on 2 nexus S I own, I bought wrapsol because I could apply it dry.
However, after my experience with the 1st "dry" application I applied the second on "wet" why? because the end result is much smoother and less detectable.
btw if you are wondering why I need 2 Nexus S'es, one for me and one for the wife.
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I've done both on 2 nexus S I own, I bought wrapsol because I could apply it dry.
However, after my experience with the 1st "dry" application I applied the second on "wet" why? because the end result is much smoother and less detectable.
btw if you are wondering why I need 2 Nexus S'es, one for me and one for the wife.
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Cool, thanks for letting me know! I heard that the wet one is a matte finish. Is that true? Also, what did you think of the screen protector portion of the wet skin?
I actually wet the ultra protective film version, its glossy not matte. Its very thick compared to the Zagg Ive used in the past, someone said it was made of polyurethane.
so far so good I like the way it looks on the screen portion with a lot less orange peel than the Zagg.
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I purchased the Panzer Glass for LG G2, so I am going to give a quick review of it. Please hit the thanks button if this helped you out.
Panzer Glass can be purchased in Denmark in various stores and online at smartfast.dk. You will be able to find Panzer Glass on eBay and I've also seen some German sites selling it. I don't know if you can purchase this and have it shipped internationally,
although I am willing to e-mail them in order to ask. I am not a reseller nor a worker, and I do not benefit from doing this review.
EDIT: Panzer glass can now be bought from Smartfast.dk internationally for a flat shipping fee of 4.95 EUR. Please check the end of this page for details on how to purchase.
The glass is 0.4 mm thick and has a really nice feeling. It's oleophobic coating prevents almost all fingerprints (although you will occasionally find the need to wipe your screen) and it feels like real glass. It is labelled as shock resistant and anti-scratch (9H hardness). The display is not distorted at all, in fact it is crystal clear and renders every detail perfectly. The glass is case friendly, although I find it TOO case friendly; the width of the glass is the exact same width as the lit pixels (basically screen without bezel), and if you don't align the screen protector properly it will be a bit annoying to look at. I recommend using the hinge method for installing it, but more on that later.
As previously mentioned, the screen protector feels really good. The sensitivity of the screen does not suffer at all from the screen protector.
I haven't done any drop tests, scratch tests or anything like that, but it seems to hold up really well. This is truly a premium quality screen protector. You can see videos on youtube how the glass holds up to scratches, hammer tests and drop tests. I've yet to seen it crack or shatter.
Tips for installing the screen protector.
Don't put your nail under it if you want to realign it, as it damages the sticky side of the glass. Also, DO NOT BEND.
Use the "hinge-method".
Without taking the plastic off the screen protector, put the screen protector on the G2 when it's still turned on. Align the screen protector with the screen. Grab some tape and tape it from one side only, thus making hinges so the screen protector can flip on and off the screen like a flipcover. Turn the G2 off.
Now carefully clean the screen from dust using the alcohol swab that is included in the package and dry the screen with the included microfiber cloth. Remove the plastic from the back of the screen protector and flip it over, allowing it to adhere to the screen. It should now adhere all by itself. Use the microfiber cloth to push out any bubbles.
If everything is OK, remove the tape and the plastic covering the face of the screen protector. That's it.
This screen protector is expensive compared to other screen protectors on the market, but I consider it a one-time investment. If it can prevent my screen from shattering and save my digitizer in case of a drop, I think it's well worth it.
PROS AND CONS
Pros:
Crystal clear screen
Olephobic coating that works as intended
Touch response is great
Easy to install
9H hardness
Supposedly shock resistant
Cons:
It only protects the lit part of the screen, but goes well with a case. It could probably be 1.5-2 mm wider and longer. EDIT: Just realised this is not possible since the glass curves. The lenght fits perfectly when the glass is properly aligned.
Feel a bit thick (but very sturdy)
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
P.S. Pictures coming soon, I just need to find a way to take them!
Pictures?
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I couldn't get my hands on a good camera so I just used my tablet's 5mpx shooter. Oh and it's a Chinese tablet by the way. The quality resembles a VGA camera from pre 00s.
I couldn't take pictures from different angle simply because it shows all black.
I've had the panzer glass on for a few days now. I have absolutely no issues with it, and it's really wonderful. It does sometimes pick up some fingerprints, depending on how "dirty" your fingers are, but wipe it off and you're good to go!
I haven't been as satisfied with any screen protector as I am with this.
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Thank you for your review ! I answer to your question in the other thread in this thread.
I live in the EU but I travel for work in Germany (Munich) and in Denmark ( Copenaghen) so the only way to have this Panzer Glass is buy it online or tell a friend if I can use use his adress for my order
However I didn't find it on Ebay. If you have the time to find a link on Ebay or somewhere else I thank you
jose_k said:
Thank you for your review ! I answer to your question in the other thread in this thread.
I live in the EU but I travel for work in Germany (Munich) and in Denmark ( Copenaghen) so the only way to have this Panzer Glass is buy it online or tell a friend if I can use use his adress for my order
However I didn't find it on Ebay. If you have the time to find a link on Ebay or somewhere else I thank you
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Here, mate. It's a german link though, but I suppose you have no problems with that since you work in Germany.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Pan...y_PDA_Displayschutzfolien&hash=item19e6fa0447
No, you are right I'm have no problem to read in German.
Thank you very much for the link
ONE week with the Panzer Glass
It's still as good as when I applied it. Some of the micro bubbles it had when I applied seems to have disappeared, more or less. The screen protector is not chipping nor peeling off, and I only feel the need to wipe it once every about 2 days.
Panzer glass can now be purchased internationally from smartfast.dk for a flat shipping fee of EUR4.95!
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EDIT: Just press the Stars and Stripes (The US flag in the top right corner, just below the Smartfast.dk banner) and you will have the page in English.
How to purchase Panzer Glass:
Go to Smartfast.dk
Press on Panzer Glass under the (VARESORTIMENT) tab.
Scroll down to the LG G2 and press on Køb denne vare.
Press Next
Fill out the blank - I have listed the obligatory fields there:
Fornavn is your First Name
Efternavn is your Surname
Address 1 is the one you should fill out
Postnr. is your ZIP code
Bynavn is the name of your city/town
Land is your country
Telefon is your phone number
E-mail is self-explanatory
Then you proceed to payment, where you have several payment options.
Hope this helps!
One month after-update:
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Screen protector Condition is the very same as the moment I applied it. It has no scratches yet, despite the fact that I've not been very careful with my placement of the phone and I often put it on the table face down. I have no major issues with dust accumulating around the corners of the screen, but I do occasionally wipe the phone. The oleophobic coating does its job quite well but it doesn't mean you get rid of fingerprints completely. If you have very greasy fingers, it will not work as good.
I have only tried a few screen protectors but all I can say is that this one is most definitely the best I've tried. And it hasn't peeled off at the corners
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Do you think you can take a picture of it with the screen on? I want to see how much past the actual lit screen it covers.
Ryoma1337 said:
Do you think you can take a picture of it with the screen on? I want to see how much past the actual lit screen it covers.
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I really don't have access to any another camera other than the one I have on my G2 :/
However, I can tell that It doesn't cover much past the actual lit screen, probably 1 mm more.
Thanks for this, just need to see what price I can get it for! Do you mind stating how much you paid? Thanks also for the "hinge method" such a simple idea, why didn't I think of that!
mynameisthehulk said:
Thanks for this, just need to see what price I can get it for! Do you mind stating how much you paid? Thanks also for the "hinge method" such a simple idea, why didn't I think of that!
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I got it for what translates to 37 dollars which is a pretty high price, but it's also a premium quality that comes with the price! And in the end, if it really turns out to save the screen from cracks, It could save you the price of a new digitizer.
P.S. Hitting the thanks button is appreciated
vPro97 said:
I got it for what translates to 37 dollars which is a pretty high price, but it's also a premium quality that comes with the price! And in the end, if it really turns out to save the screen from cracks, It could save you the price of a new digitizer.
P.S. Hitting the thanks button is appreciated
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No worries, I just paid £23 (GBP) for one, so that seems to be pretty much the standard price. There was only one left on stock and I was pretty keen to get it ordered so I just went for it as I could not find any other UK stock.
Cheers
mynameisthehulk said:
No worries, I just paid £23 (GBP) for one, so that seems to be pretty much the standard price. There was only one left on stock and I was pretty keen to get it ordered so I just went for it as I could not find any other UK stock.
Cheers
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That is about the same as I paid. I'm sure you will enjoy it, but be very careful when putting it on, bro. It's best if you can find a place free of dust and lint and try to fit it perfectly the first time so you don't have to realign it, because putting your nail under it in order to realign it may damage the sticky side so much that it won't adhere where you nail has been. I've tried it.
Make sure you have plenty of time
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That is about the same as I paid. I'm sure you will enjoy it, but be very careful when putting it on, bro. It's best if you can find a place free of dust and lint and try to fit it perfectly the first time so you don't have to realign it, because putting your nail under it in order to realign it may damage the sticky side so much that it won't adhere where you nail has been. I've tried it.
Make sure you have plenty of time
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I have got the Spigen Glas.t on my HTC One and I managed to apply it without bubbles and dust using a kind of "drop it on and pray" method and that worked out ok. With the hinge method now being revealed I should be fine. I'll just have to make sure I don't put it on with a hangover!
Lol drop it on and pray I like that method ... I have iloomie and I guess I didn't pray hard enough had 1 spec of dust in the middle of the screen lol ?
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Just turn on the shower to hot and wait a few minutes for it to steam up. Then do it in the bathroom with the door closed.
I just wanted to share my thoughts and experience with the Whitestone Dome Glass for the Note 8. I have installed a few of these things on Note 8's for my friends and I. With the exception of the tray lifting up in the middle where it comes together and the glass slipping between on my first install I can say the product installs very smoothly. Two of my installs have resulted with issues with the glue on the edges collecting dust/dirt and when you try to get it off the edge (since it isn't rounded) looks like utter crap. I am talking TWO absolutely perfect installations. One of which developed a lifting edge on the lower right side which has tiny bubbles. Keep in mind one of these installations is with a case that allows more than enough room (tech21 evo tactical) and the other with no case. I have contacted Whitestone via their email, via PM here on XDA and the on site contact form via their website. I have gotten ZERO reply. I want this product to be work. I really do but I think some issues need to be addressed such as rounding the edges and maybe the glue or the light not curing the glue enough. After my experience, I have to question the customer service of this company. I am about to contact the place I purchased them from to see if they can do anything. I have attached the same pictures I sent to whitestone for everyone to see. The whole edge around the whole glass looks that way now. Maybe whitestone will see this and actually do something.
Update: On one of the installs it started bubbling on one edge and looked horrible. I was able to remove the glass with little or no effort. All in one piece took less than 30 seconds. There is definitely an issue with either the uv glue, the uv light, or both. I also notice rough edges on the glass itself. This in itself promotes the crappy look on the edge when the dirt mixes with the glue. Step up Whitestone.
This why I waited on these, will see how they handle this.
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Hello iowamoe300!
This is Whitestone. Thanks for contacting us.
I am so sorry that I have reached you late. We are currently working on ways for faster response on the online community but as of right now, contacting the place where you bought the product is the best way to reach us.
Now that I have heard you, we would like to help you. I will respond your PM immediately.
I am so sorry about not being able to hear you, and thanks for not giving up on contacting us!
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Hello iowamoe300!
This is Whitestone. Thanks for contacting us.
I am so sorry that I have reached you late. We are currently working on ways for faster response on the online community but as of right now, contacting the place where you bought the product is the best way to reach us.
Now that I have heard you, we would like to help you. I will respond your PM immediately.
I am so sorry about not being able to hear you, and thanks for not giving up on contacting us!
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Thank you for the reply finally. I did pm you back waiting for a response. Also waiting for a response from mobilefun.com where I purchased them from.
Update: Whitestone has contacted me and is addressing the issue at hand. I will let people know how this goes and update accordingly.
iowamoe300 said:
Thank you for the reply finally. I did pm you back waiting for a response. Also waiting for a response from mobilefun.com where I purchased them from.
Update: Whitestone has contacted me and is addressing the issue at hand. I will let people know how this goes and update accordingly.
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Thanks for sharing. I ordered from Amazon, but haven't installed it yet. I'm thinking of returning it....
Following this as I purchased the Whitestone Dome for my Note 8 also, It looks like it installed fine without any bubbles, but we will see.
I love how some companies don't respond unless you call them out publicly.
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I love how some companies don't respond unless you call them out publicly.
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Agreed. I would recommend sticking with Amazon on this one as you are always covered with them. I am going to re-install a dome glass again on the Note 8 and document on this thread the phases as it gets what is almost like a "halo" from the dirt on the edge. Some may not have a problem with the look. I however think it looks horrible.
I had no issues at all with being a first time user of the product. Other than the price, seems to be the best thing out there for our screens. I guess you pay for what you get. I did have some glue residue in the top right hand corner, but the alcohol pad took care of that with not problems. I did happen to get one bubble in the bottom left corner, but imma try not to get all bent over it...as OCD as I am, just shows it's not too bad of a bubble. Just hoping I never have to see if its durable enough for a drop.
It seems that all screen protectors for these types of screens are iffy if you dont put them on PERFECT. It bums me out because I spent $20 on my first screen protector (not this one) and it slid right off... The middle of the screen protector was all dried up and had no glue on it. I probably can blame myself for a bad install, but Ive seen many people complaining about this type of issue.. I'm probably gonna try this one out here soon and see if it works well. What cases are compatible with this protector? I have a spigen tough armor atm and it seemed to try and peel the corners off a tad on my last protector...
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It seems that all screen protectors for these types of screens are iffy if you dont put them on PERFECT. It bums me out because I spent $20 on my first screen protector (not this one) and it slid right off... The middle of the screen protector was all dried up and had no glue on it. I probably can blame myself for a bad install, but Ive seen many people complaining about this type of issue.. I'm probably gonna try this one out here soon and see if it works well. What cases are compatible with this protector? I have a spigen tough armor atm and it seemed to try and peel the corners off a tad on my last protector...
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I am successfully using the Samsung OEM clear back cover. Does not interfere with the Whitestone, which is work well without any bubbles after 2 days.
I too am a bit dissatisfied with the white stone protector as it went on absolutely perfect until I stuck it in my pocket and pulled out a protector full of fuzz stuck around the edges. After trying to clean it up the edges look rough and it created a halo effect from tiny bits of glue rubbing oiut from the very edge. I also agree the edges need to be rounded and polished. If the glue wasn't rubbery and was more of a solid it would eliminate the dirt and lint issue
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It seems that all screen protectors for these types of screens are iffy if you dont put them on PERFECT. It bums me out because I spent $20 on my first screen protector (not this one) and it slid right off... The middle of the screen protector was all dried up and had no glue on it. I probably can blame myself for a bad install, but Ive seen many people complaining about this type of issue.. I'm probably gonna try this one out here soon and see if it works well. What cases are compatible with this protector? I have a spigen tough armor atm and it seemed to try and peel the corners off a tad on my last protector...
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Since every case is different and every screen protector is different it is a lottery. Unless you go with the Whitestone Dome Glass there is a list of compatible cases just watch the vids on this youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCewzyJMZtNFqESxXZZgv__g
From my experience here are the ones I have tried so far and they fit fine: tech21 evo check and evo tactical. Any of the caseology cases. I have a UAG Monarch on order and that is supposed to fit as per the video Gravx made but it is very close. I have a perfect install on my dome glass so it should.
Here are a few pictures of an absolutely perfect install. No bubbles, perfect placement, etc. Pay attention to the edges in particular. Especially at the bottom and left hand side. That is where the glue under the screen edge is now gone from cleaning it up. You can see little balls of glue all over in different spots. Cleaning those up will result in the same halo look everywhere. This is after just a few days.
Whitestone has been at least acknowledging me since I went public. They are willing to address the issue have been helpful now. The original place I purchased from has terrible communication. What I really want is a way to get the edge clean after installing so this halo doesn't happen. It may be that we just have to leave it alone and have a crummy looking edge. Or just let it "wear" off? I think that is what I will try next.
@Whitestone Dome Glass also doesn't wanna reply to my email
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@Whitestone Dome Glass also doesn't wanna reply to my email
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Hello there!
I am so sorry about that. We will reply ASAP.
It has been a long Korean holiday and we have not been able to help much.
We will get back to you very soon.
The Whitestone Dome works perfectly if you can follow directions. I have done 3 of these now (S7 edge, S8 plus, and Note8) and they all came out perfect! If someone is on the fence do to the negative reviews, just go ahead and get it. Apparently, many people try to blame their own mistakes on the company. You just have to take your time and read the instructions. I just hope that Whitestone continues to make these as it is the only protector that fits on curved displays (all companies seem to be going to the curved edges it seems).
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Hello there!
I am so sorry about that. We will reply ASAP.
It has been a long Korean holiday and we have not been able to help much.
We will get back to you very soon.
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I also contacted you through private message and also through Facebook Messenger with no response..
I actually messed up my first install and had to clean all the glue off my phone and the screen protector before trying again (it didn't drop properly onto the face of the phone during installation), but the second time was perfect. This is by far the best screen protector I've ever used - the s-pen glides so smoothly across it.
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I just wanted to share my thoughts and experience with the Whitestone Dome Glass for the Note 8. I have installed a few of these things on Note 8's for my friends and I. With the exception of the tray lifting up in the middle where it comes together and the glass slipping between on my first install I can say the product installs very smoothly. Two of my installs have resulted with issues with the glue on the edges collecting dust/dirt and when you try to get it off the edge (since it isn't rounded) looks like utter crap. I am talking TWO absolutely perfect installations. One of which developed a lifting edge on the lower right side which has tiny bubbles. Keep in mind one of these installations is with a case that allows more than enough room (tech21 evo tactical) and the other with no case. I have contacted Whitestone via their email, via PM here on XDA and the on site contact form via their website. I have gotten ZERO reply. I want this product to be work. I really do but I think some issues need to be addressed such as rounding the edges and maybe the glue or the light not curing the glue enough. After my experience, I have to question the customer service of this company. I am about to contact the place I purchased them from to see if they can do anything. I have attached the same pictures I sent to whitestone for everyone to see. The whole edge around the whole glass looks that way now. Maybe whitestone will see this and actually do something.
Update: On one of the installs it started bubbling on one edge and looked horrible. I was able to remove the glass with little or no effort. All in one piece took less than 30 seconds. There is definitely an issue with either the uv glue, the uv light, or both. I also notice rough edges on the glass itself. This in itself promotes the crappy look on the edge when the dirt mixes with the glue. Step up Whitestone.
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I would have to agree as well....I had to order 2 separate orders, because the first one came damaged. Then on the second attempt, my screen bubbled like crazy. I wrote CS. And they wanted pictures....well I of course did what I could to clean up the phone immediately. And didn't think I would need pictures. They sort of gave me, "ohh well". You would think for 50 bucks they would at least provide 2 glasses.
So got my shiny new Note 8 week ago. Also with that got the Whitestone Dome screen protector and alcantara case.
Tried to install screen protector:
1st. attempt: The screen lined up incorrectly from the bottom, tried to "lift it up to the position" just created more airbubles and the glue poured out from the sides.
After cleaning my Note 8 with the alcohol swipes, (It was a mess to try to clean the phone AND the glass screen protector)
2. attempt with the second bottle of glue..... There was a dust particle on the glue itself. Great.
Wait for a week to mobilefun to ship me another one. (while doing so i was "dry- practicing" to get it 100% correct this time)
3. attempt was a charm.... until.... when the glue spread there was 2 small air bubbles... Take the second bottle and "tap" the small air bubbles away. (while doing so being extremely nervous about that the screen protector might move or great new bubbles). Managed to get the bigger one out but there was the small one... Didn't get that out.
Light up the UV light and call it a day. Only problem is now there is small air bubble that is pretttty distracting to say the least.
So, now i am with 50€ in my account from the order. (Because i demanded that they refund me this horrible product). I am left to choose new screen protector.
My options that i have read:
- Rearth invisible defender - The problem with this is that there is "snowfall" effect and the screen is too damn sticky (according to reviews)
- IQ Shield - The problem with this is that the S-pen (according to reviews) leaves trails to the TPU protector. Because it's so soft and it will not cure overtime.
-Zagg invisible shield - Unresponsivnes and the fact that it has "raimbow" -effect on the screen.
New one that i just founded out about:
-Powerpeak Base- According to this guy (Install Jimmy is Promo's "Base Screen protector for Samsung GALAXY S8 & Note 8 here) Its pretty good. Might be ad though... Does any of you have experience on this?
The whitstone does have pretty good responsiveness and all that good stuff. But the problem is the installation and even when i tried to be 100% accurate with the installation, it still greated air bubbles. And the fact that there is a HUGE risk that the glue when cured can cause damage to the screen.... More specifically if you manage to cure the glue when the glue is over the earpiece... you are ****ed with your 1000€ phone.
I am doing the poor mans whitestone. LOCA glue and cheap amazon tempered glass. Took me two tries to get it right. So with two screens and glue, out $20. I did buy a UV lamp for dual use. My phone and girlfriends nails. I had the ZAGG on my S8+, didn't like it at all, unresponsive. But i bet if you glued it on with LOCA it would be good.
Bullitt3309 said:
I am doing the poor mans whitestone. LOCA glue and cheap amazon tempered glass. Took me two tries to get it right. So with two screens and glue, out $20. I did buy a UV lamp for dual use. My phone and girlfriends nails. I had the ZAGG on my S8+, didn't like it at all, unresponsive. But i bet if you glued it on with LOCA it would be good.
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I am sort of guy, who can easily mess things like that up... So not going to risk it.
Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector [2-Pack][Not Glass], Yootech [Case Friendly] Galaxy Note 8 Wet Applied Screen Protector BUBBLE-FREE for Samsung Galaxy https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0756DBXWP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_xFOJgXZGMrAdo
This one seems a little less rubbery imho.
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DAvid_B said:
Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector [2-Pack][Not Glass], Yootech [Case Friendly] Galaxy Note 8 Wet Applied Screen Protector BUBBLE-FREE for Samsung Galaxy https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0756DBXWP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_xFOJgXZGMrAdo
This one seems a little less rubbery imho.
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I did check that thanks! Only problem is that i live in EU (Finland) And Amazon will not ship that item to me.... Looked up in Ebay and they will add 20€+ to the original price...
Bummer tho,.
Hello, this is Whitestone.
I am so sorry that you had a terrible experience with our product. Air bubbles can be very frustrating on a new screen protector. We are constantly trying to solve the problem of air bubbles, and the seesaw type has drastically reduced it but not fully eliminated it.
I am very thankful for your patience to give our product three tries before you made your decision and also for a detailed feedback on what became wrong.
Since you have given a lot of effort on our product, we will try and help you out if you are willing to give our product another chance.
Feel free to contact us through here, or our homepage, or any social media.
Again I am terribly sorry.
Base TGSP is a piece of shot
That Jimmy guy sounds like an infomercial
Only use skinomi wet i stall protectors.
Use it before on my note edge 4. The spen did leave marks.
But with the note 8. I dont see any marks. So either the protector is better or the tips are softer
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Only use skinomi wet i stall protectors.
Use it before on my note edge 4. The spen did leave marks.
But with the note 8. I dont see any marks. So either the protector is better or the tips are softer
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do you forsee it lifting up on the edges? did you get the techskin one that comes in a twopack?
I'm currently going through a batch of clear protection film HD skins on my Note 8. Generally are average, but some dont cover the edges that well or some have too much orange peel, or some are not cut correctly. Typical chinese "dog" turd.
So far. Spigen, coverage is excellent, but suffer from a lot of orange peel. Illumi Shield , coverage is rubbish, one side ( left side ) is cut shorter than the other. But less orange peel.
Amovo front and back clear film, the worst ever. The pikeys didnt even inc a lubrication spray with their aggrssive adhesive film. Secondly the film that you remove to apply was stuck like gorilla glue to the actual film. You know, the tab that say "peel here first" and " peel here last".
I dont care less for the glass crap for curved screens, but in search of a half decent clear film currently. The search continues...
Limeybastard said:
I'm currently going through a batch of clear protection film HD skins on my Note 8. Generally are average, but some dont cover the edges that well or some have too much orange peel, or some are not cut correctly. Typical chinese "dog" turd.
So far. Spigen, coverage is excellent, but suffer from a lot of orange peel. Illumi Shield , coverage is rubbish, one side ( left side ) is cut shorter than the other. But less orange peel.
Amovo front and back clear film, the worst ever. The pikeys didnt even inc a lubrication spray with their aggrssive adhesive film. Secondly the film that you remove to apply was stuck like gorilla glue to the actual film. You know, the tab that say "peel here first" and " peel here last".
I dont care less for the glass crap for curved screens, but in search of a half decent clear film currently. The search continues...
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I'm looking at IQShield and Skinomi right now but don't have enough info to decide on one or the other. Would love to hear about your experiences with other non-TGSPs and if you ever come across one you would recommend.
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I'm looking at IQShield and Skinomi right now but don't have enough info to decide on one or the other. Would love to hear about your experiences with other non-TGSPs and if you ever come across one you would recommend.
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Im primarily using and trying non glass type films, similar to the stuff used to protect car paint protection. My background includes being able to apply paint protection film on cars so these are all from the same mold that I have been trying. BTW, heat of a hairdryer will aid in adhering the curved edges once applied- slight tip.
I have not tried IQShield yet, sorry. So far the Spigen one fitted well coverage wise,but their film is very aggressive in the orange peel front,
I might try Skinomi next, but I have heard they cut their films short to save a few bucks.
Lets liase and share our experiences with these type of films, cheers.
Thanks for all of you for the help and responses.
Yes the IQshield and Skinomi are on the top of my list... They are around 20€ including shipping to Finland from Ebay. A bit expensive but lets see....
Im currently using IQshield version 2 (case friendly) for about a week now.
I've done a lot of wet install before so i know what to expect using this type of screen protector. Its been a week now and so far no lifting on the curve part of the screen. it is smooth to touch, sensitivity is normal and very good. Im using a VRSdesign slim case and it works well, all corners fitted very well.
I also used skinomi before and if i remember it right IQshield is more smoother than skinomi in-terms of orange peel feeling. The only problem that is s-pen will leave marks when used with this kind of screen protector. (i tried it at the very bottom and its still have mark after a week)
I can give this IQshield a 7.5/10 score. LOL
YesThisIs said:
The whitstone does have pretty good responsiveness and all that good stuff. But the problem is the installation and even when i tried to be 100% accurate with the installation, it still greated air bubbles. And the fact that there is a HUGE risk that the glue when cured can cause damage to the screen.... More specifically if you manage to cure the glue when the glue is over the earpiece... you are ****ed with your 1000€ phone.
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I used the tip of placing painter's tape over the speaker. I covered the speaker enough to not interfere with the glass. It worked great! I do have three small bubbles after two tries but can't see them unless I try. My wife's has one bubble in about the same spot as mine. The lower left corner about 1/3 up the screen where the curve starts. There a number of ways to avoid the creation of bubbles. I couldn't say them all because I'm not an expert in LOCA glue and it's properties. Experimentation is the only way to find out.
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Hello, this is Whitestone.
I am so sorry that you had a terrible experience with our product. Air bubbles can be very frustrating on a new screen protector. We are constantly trying to solve the problem of air bubbles, and the seesaw type has drastically reduced it but not fully eliminated it.
I am very thankful for your patience to give our product three tries before you made your decision and also for a detailed feedback on what became wrong.
Since you have given a lot of effort on our product, we will try and help you out if you are willing to give our product another chance.
Feel free to contact us through here, or our homepage, or any social media.
Again I am terribly sorry.
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I am glad that you have started beeing more on forums and social media. I want to thank you for sending me a new one. Now i am waiting for it. Hope this time works.
To be honest, it will be difficult to actually get most tempered glass protectors to stay on this curved glass.. Its a pain and it sucks because I would actually like to get one. I just ordered the whitestore myself..., but they wont be in stock again until the 30th...
I got the PowerPeak Base and it is utter garbage. I lost atleast 30% touch sensitivity and then it just eventually slid off of my phone from me trying to swipe so hard. The middle actually dried up and there was nothing holding the middle to the phone.
I despise the wet installs. They are too soft and will leave indents as you said.. So really its either try tempered glass protectors until you find the one you want, go with indents and wet installs, or just go no screen protector like me!
I have the wet install spigen ones but I tbh would rather go with no protector than use them.
I ordered and installed this on my Note 8 : https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B074G1W2RC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Along with a Spigen Tough Armor case. It seems to work well and no real screen sensitivity issues either.
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do you forsee it lifting up on the edges? did you get the techskin one that comes in a twopack?
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I get the case friendly 2pack. And havent had problems with lifting.
Had my note 8 since sept 8 and been caseless and no lifting.
Anyone planning on using a cheap protector with LOCA glue needs to check the strength of the LOCA. Some have reported they were not able to remove the protector after using some LOCA glue.
I had 3 attempts at the Dome Glass myself. The first one I got had a broken bridge. I could not get the glue in the right spot. Whitestone refunded me. I bought the next set from Amazon. Everything was perfect until I peeled the plastic off the back of the protector. There must have been a fleck of dirt near the side. I did not see it as I did not have enough light.
I sent the second one back to Amazon and just had to pay return shipping. With the third one I took a different approach. I used a totally level counter top in the bathroom. I ran the shower with hot water for about 10 minutes so the whole bathroom was steamed up. This kept the dust down. I cleaned the phone screen and when I removed the plastic from the protector, it somehow grabbed another piece of dirt. Due to the extreme lighting, I saw it and removed it before installing. It installed perfectly with no dust/dirt or air bubbles. I did the first cure with the UV light then took it out of the jig and wiped the sides, top and bottom with an alcohol pad. I then did the final cure. Not one ounce of glue seeped out. I did not protect the speaker or anything else. If this is done perfectly, this is the absolute best protector available IMHO. The problem is anything short of a perfect install will drive many of us with OCD crazy.
On Monday we traded in my Mothers iPhone and she went with a Note 8. The Dome Glass arrived today. This time, perfect install the first time. I wish Whitestone would include 2 pieces of glass per package since this is the most expensive Note 8 protector. Their CS is a bit slow but they did take care of me in the end. It's a bit of a ripoff to sell the kit for 49 but then only sell the glass and one tube of glue for 39. The refill pack should be 15-20 at the highest.
After a week, none of my edges are lifting at all. Some may be using cases that are not compatible. My protector does not touch my case at anyplace. I think cases that touch the protector have a good chance of raising the edges. Even if the case looks fine after install, if grabbing it makes the case touch the glass, it will eventually lift and get bubbles.
Someone finally did it, a Tempered glass inexpensive full back adhesive for the Note 8, not just the edges. I have to say first that I was VERY Skeptical of this tempered glasses claim to have full adhesive and stick to the phone properly. I am one of those people who has literally tried an insane amount of tempered glasses I think Amazon had to offer, finally settling on the Dome Glass but if /when it breaks you are shelling out another 45 bucks plus the install procedure can be a bit much for some.
But anyway this tempered glass went on so easy with the provided guard rail I truly couldn’t believe it. It laid down and adhered to the phone with a little help from the provided squeegee then I just pressed the edges down and voila!! The ENTIRE glass protector lays down edges and everything no bubbles. Went on just as easy as a tempered glass for a flat screen. This tempered glass is just what I have been looking for since I got my Note 8. Well done… SingularityProducts
Pros:
1. Very easy install with tools provided
2. True tempered glass
3. Fingerprints and smudges are minimal and wipe off easily
4. No dot matrix
5. Touch screen sensitivity stayed not hampered
6. Was $13.89 when I bought mine, but now I see it is $18.89 still better than $45, $34, etc the others with this claim cost
Cons:
1. I truly could not think of one con, very happy with this product I am buying another right now in case this one breaks
2. Price increase from $13.89 to $18.89
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077GSJ55T/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Pics or I don't believe it
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I think I got something similar to this. Php 1,300 so around $25.
It isnt full coverage (It cuts the screen and leaves the curve where it drops off exposed) and this first one I got had a flaw in the adhesive and has 3 permanent bubbles on the adhesive itself.
I had this replaced then on the second one was perfect. No bubbles. Although one speck of dust made it through. It isn't easy to install and requires a lot of patience and slow application to get the bubbles out.
Technique for the is to let it adhere on the top then slowly work it to the bottom. Starting with the center then working to the edges also works but takes more time. It may have also caused the permanent bubbles to the adhesive as the seller who sold me this forced to press the bubbles out instead of working it out to the edges.
Pictures of the box, kit, and on the Note 8 to follow in a bit.
With the effort for this and the non full coverage I might consider the Whitestone Dome because I am tired trying out different protectors.
I have tried TPU (issue is the s-pen leaves marks on the protector), various edge adhesive protectors (some fit well some don't but all have the dot matrix and eventually dust gets in and in my use case of using the phone while walking in the rain water gets in), and finally this full adhesive but NOT FULL COVERAGE ONE). So far this is the best I have tried BUT lint still gathers on the edges and is driving me bonkers with the cleaning it out...
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I think I got something similar to this. Php 1,300 so around $25.
It isnt full coverage (It cuts the screen and leaves the curve where it drops off exposed) and this first one I got had a flaw in the adhesive and has 3 permanent bubbles on the adhesive itself.
I had this replaced then on the second one was perfect. No bubbles. Although one speck of dust made it through. It isn't easy to install and requires a lot of patience and slow application to get the bubbles out.
Technique for the is to let it adhere on the top then slowly work it to the bottom. Starting with the center then working to the edges also works but takes more time. It may have also caused the permanent bubbles to the adhesive as the seller who sold me this forced to press the bubbles out instead of working it out to the edges.
Pictures of the box, kit, and on the Note 8 to follow in a bit.
With the effort for this and the non full coverage I might consider the Whitestone Dome because I am tired trying out different protectors.
I have tried TPU (issue is the s-pen leaves marks on the protector), various edge adhesive protectors (some fit well some don't but all have the dot matrix and eventually dust gets in and in my use case of using the phone while walking in the rain water gets in), and finally this full adhesive but NOT FULL COVERAGE ONE). So far this is the best I have tried BUT lint still gathers on the edges and is driving me bonkers with the cleaning it out...
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Lint gathers on the side but at least the touch sensitivity is not affected. Also part of the screen is cut off and the edges are actually exposed.
Also it is weird that the manufacturer kept the black border even if this is full adhesive and again NOT FULL COVERAGE.
I think these are the same full adhesive protectors offered at AliExpress. Ordered one 3 weeks ago. Crap. Bubbles, cuts parts of display left, right, top, bottom. Inacceptable, full adhesive or not. Got it refunded and would not order it again.
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raphael.atienza said:
Lint gathers on the side but at least the touch sensitivity is not affected. Also part of the screen is cut off and the edges are actually exposed.
Also it is weird that the manufacturer kept the black border even if this is full adhesive and again NOT FULL COVERAGE.
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If it doesn't cover the edges then that wouldn't work for me. I'm glad you like it, but for me, it's worthless if it doesn't cover the whole screen.
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ayinde6 said:
Someone finally did it, a Tempered glass inexpensive full back adhesive for the Note 8, not just the edges. <SNIP>
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077GSJ55T/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Please post pictures as proof.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
If it doesn't cover the edges then that wouldn't work for me. I'm glad you like it, but for me, it's worthless if it doesn't cover the whole screen.
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Uh I don't like it but it is good enough until I get a Whitestone Dome or other alternatives. I do not want to leave it bare and naked.
raphael.atienza said:
Uh I don't like it but it is good enough until I get a Whitestone Dome or other alternatives. I do not want to leave it bare and naked.
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Gotcha. I'm using a wet apply screen protector for now. I like it other than the S-Pen leaves marks in it.
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Gotcha. I'm using a wet apply screen protector for now. I like it other than the S-Pen leaves marks in it.
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Is it TPU? Is the Spigen one good? or maybe the wraparound Ringke?
Also which S-Pen Tip are you using the grey or the black one?
raphael.atienza said:
Is it TPU? Is the Spigen one good? or maybe the wraparound Ringke?
Also which S-Pen Tip are you using the grey or the black one?
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Iit's the Armor suit Wet apply one it's not TPU, but is a soft screen protector.
I'm using the black tip. the white one was too hard and really dug into the screen protector.
Photos pf singularity tempered glass
Disclaimer I am not a photographer so sorry if the pictures aren't great I had to use an iPad to take them...as you can see Mine is not catching any lint, like the dome glass, wet install ones, and TPU. Also, as you can see in the pictures my box is different than the one posted in the above post. Not sure which brand theirs is.
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Disclaimer I am not a photographer so sorry if the pictures aren't great I had to use an iPad to take them...as you can see Mine is not catching any lint, like the dome glass, wet install ones, and TPU. Also, as you can see in the pictures my box is different than the one posted in the above post. Not sure which brand theirs is.
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It's that full adhesive?
borijess said:
It's that full adhesive?
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The first post explains it.
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Disclaimer I am not a photographer so sorry if the pictures aren't great I had to use an iPad to take them...as you can see Mine is not catching any lint, like the dome glass, wet install ones, and TPU. Also, as you can see in the pictures my box is different than the one posted in the above post. Not sure which brand theirs is.
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That looks great! Looks like I'll be ordering one soon.
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Disclaimer I am not a photographer so sorry if the pictures aren't great I had to use an iPad to take them...as you can see Mine is not catching any lint, like the dome glass, wet install ones, and TPU. Also, as you can see in the pictures my box is different than the one posted in the above post. Not sure which brand theirs is.
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Ooooh. Looks nice! Might order this...
raphael.atienza said:
Lint gathers on the side but at least the touch sensitivity is not affected. Also part of the screen is cut off and the edges are actually exposed.
Also it is weird that the manufacturer kept the black border even if this is full adhesive and again NOT FULL COVERAGE.
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The one that I bought myself the box is different from yours and mine covers the screen fully, well more than this one.
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Yes adhesive on the entire back of the screen
Tip, if you start screen protector from the top and work down using the squeegee provided then you can work out remaining bubbles with your fingers as long as you don't trap any dust under the screen should be bubble free
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Tip, if you start screen protector from the top and work down using the squeegee provided then you can work out remaining bubbles with your fingers as long as you don't trap any dust under the screen should be bubble free
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Did you use the plastic jig that came with it? Some of the TGSPs i've bought in the past for my S8+ came with a jig like that, but they always set the TGSP about a millimeter too low so it wound up cutting off part of the status bar. NEVER enough to matter, but was still annoying. How's the alignment with this one?
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Did you use the plastic jig that came with it? Some of the TGSPs i've bought in the past for my S8+ came with a jig like that, but they always set the TGSP about a millimeter too low so it wound up cutting off part of the status bar. NEVER enough to matter, but was still annoying. How's the alignment with this one?
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Yes I used to jig that came with it and IMO it is perfect it sits "right" below the selfie cam yeah I think I am set for screen protection for now may be I will re-review in a couple of weeks, see how it holds up.
Here are some more pics to show screen coverage. Again I am not a photographer lol I use the edge screen Sidebar a lot with no issues.